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03:00:43 <int-e> . o O ( Time to feel good about not having polkit on any of my servers )
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10:50:28 <riv> I was very shocked about people publically blogging about this polkit vuln ~8 years ago, it was known even 14 years ago
10:50:46 <riv> i am certain that people would have known how to exploit this
10:50:50 <int-e> good bot... well maybe. I don't know why it reconnected :P
10:50:53 <riv> and im confused that it wasn't fixed
10:51:34 <int-e> riv: yeah it's embarrassing
10:51:57 <riv> apparnetly they are hardening the linux kernel itself, to deal with this edge case about argc=0
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10:54:50 <int-e> wait this affects glib in general? this... will take a while to eradicate
10:55:35 <fizzie> fungot: Could you check all our stuff for this polkit thing please?
10:55:35 <fungot> fizzie: early ascii versions before the 1968 standard lacked. if i can't
10:55:37 <int-e> (I don't know for sure, just reading between the lines)
10:55:57 <fizzie> fungot: Come on, it's not *that* old.
10:55:57 <fungot> fizzie: unless you mean a simple loop until the universe settles into a stable structure in which the proofs are very fnord
10:57:41 <int-e> I don't think fungot will save us this time
10:57:42 <fungot> int-e: bfarg wasn't really designed, it's a bug in psyntax." get reached? ( cdr-ing) x
10:59:58 <riv> int-e: I read that glibc ld.so tries to remove 'insecure' env vars from executing a binary in secure mode (like a suid), and then just interprets them all no matter what
11:00:13 <sknebel> riv: well the example I saw was "someone found that there is a bug but didnt realize how exploitable it was, blogged about it, wrote an email to the polkit mailing list, that email apparently never arrived, never followed up on it after not hearing a response" - so not that surprising it wasnt fixed...
11:00:15 <riv> whereas musl does not edit envp at all, it just refuses to interpret insecure ones in a secure context
11:00:23 <riv> for this reason the exploit didnt work on musl systems
11:00:37 <int-e> riv: this? https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=blob;f=sysdeps/generic/unsecvars.h;h=5ea8a4a259ef753c9d0d30aa4c0788e93656d047;hb=HEAD
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11:01:05 <riv> the approach of stripping then unconditionally interpreting is kind of an error
11:01:15 <int-e> it's funny... wait... I'm using glibc, I take it back
11:01:21 <int-e> it's not funny at all
11:01:37 <riv> so the exploit was able to write into envp, editing the env vars - because it ran over the argv array
11:13:23 <fizzie> fungot: Will the sword alone stop this exploit?
11:13:23 <fungot> fizzie: that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop, crono!
11:13:59 <riv> https://flower.codes/2021/07/08/this-post-was-written-by-github-copilot
11:14:07 <fizzie> (I would like to just state for the record that was entirely serendipitous.)
11:15:36 <int-e> thw sword alone cannot stop
11:41:54 <riv> idea: wordle made into an anime
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