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04:30:52 <fowl> Hello friends
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04:57:51 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck 4 Humans]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=92680 * David44 * (+3111) Created page with "'''brainfuck 4 humans''' (shorthand '''bf4h''') is a [[brainfuck]] derivative by [[User:David44]] designed in late of January 2022 to make coding in brainfuck "humanly easy."..."
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05:02:57 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck 4 Humans]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92682&oldid=92681 * David44 * (+210) Add categories
05:08:28 <esolangs> [[Trivial brainfuck substitution]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92683&oldid=89454 * David44 * (+157) Added Brainfuck 4 Humans
05:10:22 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck 4 Humans]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92684&oldid=92682 * David44 * (+60) Add cat example
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06:23:08 <int-e> fungot: do you like augmenting paths?
06:23:08 <fungot> int-e: i see. you know, i really care... a time portal? what in the...! ozzie's stumped! this must be the invention. hope it still leaves you hungry! here you are the only one thing we need to defeat you, lavos.
06:23:29 <int-e> ^style
06:23:29 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube
06:23:36 <int-e> ^style ct
06:23:36 <fungot> Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script)
06:23:42 <int-e> ^style irc
06:23:42 <fungot> Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams)
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14:26:46 <esolangs> [[Cpy]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92689&oldid=92688 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+156) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the cpy programming language on GitHub and changed the category tag Unimplemented to Implemented.
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16:03:10 <b_jonas> so SMBC has a whole series on "I would climb the highest mountain to be with you": https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2011-09-23 https://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2635 https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2014-03-28
16:03:56 <b_jonas> fungot, is there a woman for whom you would climb the highest mountain to be with them?
16:03:57 <fungot> b_jonas: unfortunately, having someone learn it and create a new variable unless there is some thread stuff
16:04:29 <esolangs> [[List of ideas]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92690&oldid=92615 * Laclale * (+96) /* Game */
16:13:54 <esolangs> [[Language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92691&oldid=92678 * Laclale * (+14) /* P */
16:14:46 <b_jonas> fungot, do you do symbolic integration? 
16:14:46 <fungot> b_jonas: i am not.)
16:19:16 <esolangs> [[Plurple]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=92692 * Laclale * (+256) Created page with "{{Stub}} Plurple is an esoteric programming language by [[User:Laclale]]. ==Why Plurple?== "'''Programming Language Using Role-Playing''' Syntax", with "le". ===Spaceless Synt..."
16:22:09 <fizzie> Someone asked #elsewhere what's the expected value for a dice roll 'with advantage' (roll twice, keep the better one), got inspired to work through the sums: https://zem.fi/tmp/roll.html
16:22:50 <riv> that is a lovely page
16:23:33 <riv> interesting that the result is a simple polynomial
16:30:57 <b_jonas> fizzie: the numeric answer 13.825 is correct, yes
16:31:20 <int-e> > sum [i*(2*i-1)/36 | i <- [1..6]]
16:31:21 <lambdabot>  4.472222222222222
16:31:34 <b_jonas> int-e: both dice are d20
16:31:39 <int-e> ah
16:31:44 <b_jonas> answer should be 13.825
16:31:45 <int-e> > sum [i*(2*i-1)/400 | i <- [1..20]]
16:31:46 <lambdabot>  13.825
16:32:31 <b_jonas> [ (+/%#),>."0/~1+i.20
16:32:31 <j-bot> b_jonas: 13.825
16:33:21 <b_jonas> fizzie: this product function in octave is not familiar to me, but then I stopped using octave for a while. 
16:34:16 <int-e> > sum (max <$> [1..20] <*> [1..20]) / 400
16:34:18 <lambdabot>  13.825
16:34:36 <int-e> that's basically the octave code
16:34:39 <fizzie> `blsq 20roJcp)>]++400.0./
16:34:40 <HackEso> 13.825
16:34:57 <b_jonas> I don't really like the hard-coded 400
16:35:21 <esolangs> [[Plurple]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92693&oldid=92692 * Laclale * (+33) /* Spaceless Syntax */
16:35:23 <int-e> > sum (maximum <$> replicateM 3 [1..20]) / 20^3
16:35:25 <lambdabot>  15.4875
16:35:25 <fizzie> The Octave code is really the empirical approach, with randi(20, 2, 1000000) generating a million pairs of d20 rolls.
16:35:41 <esolangs> [[Plurple]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92694&oldid=92693 * Laclale * (+0) /* Syntax= */
16:36:56 <b_jonas> [ (+/%#)>./?2 1e6$20 NB. we can do that too. 1e6 dice rolls.
16:36:57 <j-bot> b_jonas: |out of memory
16:36:57 <j-bot> b_jonas: |   (+/%#)>./    ?2 1000000$20
16:37:09 <b_jonas> [ (+/%#)>./?2 1e5$20 NB. 1e5 dice rolls
16:37:09 <j-bot> b_jonas: 12.8028
16:37:15 <b_jonas> wait, I have to add 1
16:37:21 <b_jonas> [ (+/%#)>./1+?2 1e5$20 NB. 1e5 dice rolls
16:37:21 <j-bot> b_jonas: 13.821
16:37:36 <fizzie> `blsq 20roJcp)>]av   "oh, d'oh"vv
16:37:37 <HackEso> 13.825
16:38:10 <b_jonas> [ (+/%#)3 :'(+/%#)>./1+?2 1e4$20'"0 i.1e2 NB. 1e6 dice rolls
16:38:10 <j-bot> b_jonas: 13.8228
16:47:14 <int-e> > let d1 = M.fromList [(i,1) | i <- [1..20]]; d ? d' = M.fromListWith (+) $ do { (v,c) <- M.assocs d; (v', c') <- M.assocs d'; return (max v v', c*c') }; d n | n == 0 = M.singleton 0 1 | odd n = d1 ? d (n-1) | even n = let d' = d (n `div` 2) in d' ? d'; v d = fromIntegral (sum [i*v | (i, v) <- M.assocs d]) / fromIntegral (sum [v | (_, v) <- M.assocs d]) in map (v . d) [1,2,3,5,10,20,50,100]
16:47:15 <lambdabot>  [10.5,13.825,15.4875,17.14584375,18.640276203041992,19.465454237971002,19.91...
16:47:28 <int-e> oh, duh.
16:47:41 <int-e> > let d1 = M.fromList [(i,1) | i <- [1..20]]; d ? d' = M.fromListWith (+) $ do { (v,c) <- M.assocs d; (v', c') <- M.assocs d'; return (max v v', c*c') }; d n | n == 0 = M.singleton 0 1 | odd n = d1 ? d (n-1) | even n = let d' = d (n `div` 2) in d' ? d'; v d = fromIntegral (sum [i*v | (i, v) <- M.assocs d]) / fromIntegral (sum [v | (_, v) <- M.assocs d]) in map (v . d) [50,100]
16:47:42 <lambdabot>  [19.917590627618583,19.99405282170002]
16:49:08 <int-e> (that's for keeping the maximum value out of 50 and 100 dice)
16:51:30 <int-e> (slightly overengineered, I was hoping to get to 1000, but the result is NaN ;-)
16:52:48 <int-e> And if I had done it properly (go through Data.Ratio.Rational Integer), it would've been 20.0
16:55:03 <b_jonas> "the result is NaN" hehe, that sounds like there's something wrong and maybe you shouldn't trust the result for 50 or 100 either
16:56:14 <b_jonas> [ (+/%#)3 :'(+/%#)>./1+?50 1e4$20'"0 i.1e2 NB. average from 1e6 tries of (maximum of 50 d20)
16:56:16 <j-bot> b_jonas: 19.9179
16:56:29 <int-e> > fromIntegral (20^1000) :: Double
16:56:30 <lambdabot>  Infinity
16:56:34 <b_jonas> [ (+/%#)3 :'(+/%#)>./1+?100 1e4$20'"0 i.1e2 NB. maximum of 100
16:56:37 <j-bot> b_jonas: 19.994
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16:56:58 <b_jonas> int-e: oh, is that because you compute the exact value rather than randomness 
16:56:58 <int-e> > realToFrac (19^1000 % 20^1000) :: Double
16:56:59 <b_jonas> makes sense
16:57:00 <lambdabot>  5.2918227477450474e-23
17:02:25 <int-e> > let d1 = M.fromList [(i,1) | i <- [0..19]]; d ? d' = M.fromListWith (+) $ do { (v,c) <- M.assocs d; (v', c') <- M.assocs d'; return (min v v', c*c') }; d n | n == 0 = M.singleton 42 1 | odd n = d1 ? d (n-1) | even n = let d' = d (n `div` 2) in d' ? d'; v d = realToFrac (sum [i*v | (i, v) <- M.assocs d] % sum [v | (_, v) <- M.assocs d]) in map (v . d) [1000,10000]
17:02:27 <lambdabot>  [5.2918227477450474e-23,1.722078277288862e-223]
17:03:10 <int-e> (that's the distance to 20 instead)
17:03:55 <int-e> formally, mapping value n to value 20-n, and correspondingly, taking the minimum instead of the maximum.
17:22:46 <esolangs> [[Byte-based Instruction Jumping]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92695&oldid=92121 * Peter * (+25) 
17:22:51 <esolangs> [[Byte-based Instruction Jumping]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92696&oldid=92695 * Peter * (-25) 
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17:56:10 <kspalaiologos> i think the matrix end is still broken
17:56:14 <kspalaiologos> i can receive messages but not send them
18:00:54 <b_jonas> kspalaiologos: if it's broken on the IRC side, not the matrix side, then talk to #libera, they can help
18:01:10 <kspalaiologos> i have no idea on which side it's broken to be fair.
18:01:18 <kspalaiologos> but the messages from here get slooowly bridged to matrix.
18:06:21 <fizzie> AIUI they've got a specific support channel for the Matrix bridge as well.
18:06:33 <fizzie> https://libera.chat/guides/faq#can-i-connect-with-matrix "If you still have questions about using the Libera.Chat bridge, visit #libera-matrix from IRC or #libera-matrix:libera.chat from Matrix."
18:41:07 <b_jonas> oh! I didn't know that
18:41:20 <b_jonas> read that page then
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19:30:12 <Palaiologos[m]> matrix test
19:30:16 <Palaiologos[m]> still broken...
19:32:17 <sknebel> that was visible in IRC 
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19:48:55 <Palaiologos[m]> matrix test 2
19:48:57 <Palaiologos[m]> the messages don't seem to show  up in the transcript
19:50:53 <Palaiologos[m]> bridge test
19:50:56 <Palaiologos[m]> the bridge's been weird lately but now it works i think?
19:51:00 <Palaiologos[m]> maybe now?
19:51:04 <Palaiologos[m]> matrix test
19:51:34 <Palaiologos[m]> figured, but the delays seem to be quite serious.
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20:19:16 <Bertrahm> Eyyy
20:19:19 <riv> eyyy
20:19:24 * riv dabs
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20:38:59 <esolangs> [[Apers Assembly]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=92699 * Bertrahm * (+3213) Created page with "'''Apers Assembly''' is a Assembly-like Esolang, where all instructions are anagrams of the word ''apers''. It was created by [[user:Bertrahm]]. An aper, according to merriam-..."
20:39:50 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92700&oldid=92698 * Bertrahm * (+21) /* A */
20:42:24 <esolangs> [[User:Bertrahm]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92701&oldid=92674 * Bertrahm * (+79) /* My Projects */
20:50:25 <esolangs> [[Apers Assembly]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92702&oldid=92699 * Bertrahm * (+630) Added Labels & Documentation on Address/Pointers/Values
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22:59:49 <quadruplet> G'day
23:00:32 <quadruplet> It's been a while since I've logged in, but I'm back to ask some questions (again, lol)
23:00:40 <quadruplet> Does anyone have tips for programming in Brainfuck?
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23:15:17 <esolangs> [[Plurple]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92703&oldid=92694 * Laclale * (+106) 
23:17:22 <esolangs> [[Plurple]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92704&oldid=92703 * Laclale * (+48) /* Syntax */
23:18:48 <fizzie> We have a page on https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_algorithms which is a nifty reference for common operations.
23:18:55 <quadruplet> Thanks, Fizzie!