00:23:10 Even if it says "you lose the game" and also split second, still you can win, anyways. 00:30:48 zzo38: sure, the opponent could be stupid and react by damaging themselves with the mana ability of an Underground River 00:31:06 that will make them lose before your split second card can resolve 00:34:43 or they could lose from a trigger 00:36:12 -!- eli_oat has joined. 01:08:27 -!- eli_oat has quit (Quit: eli_oat). 01:10:24 ooh langton's ant in backflip 01:15:37 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:16:16 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 01:16:48 [[Talk:BackFlip]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92732&oldid=92723 * Oerjan * (+91) /* Similarity to ants/turmites */ Cool! 01:17:32 -!- HackEso has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 01:17:49 -!- Hooloovoo has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:18:39 -!- Hooloovoo has joined. 01:20:30 -!- HackEso has joined. 01:22:24 int-e: remember i claimed that a CL basis of regular combinators needs one with 3 variables? <-- are you about to retract that claim? :) 01:24:00 . o O ( you know you're doing real science when being wrong is as exciting as being right ) 01:24:34 or math. 01:24:55 *research 01:24:56 -!- ickk has joined. 01:25:10 -!- eli_oat has joined. 01:26:49 hm i wonder if anyone famous has said something similar 01:29:29 The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not “Eureka” but “That's funny...” —Isaac Asimov 01:29:32 close enough 01:29:39 no wait 01:29:44 just parallel 01:33:30 last the whiteboard seems a bit anticlimactic 02:12:38 -!- V has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:15:07 -!- eli_oat has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 02:29:29 -!- Sgeo__ has joined. 02:30:17 -!- Corbin has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:32:42 [[Plurple]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92733&oldid=92731 * Laclale * (+663) /* Commands */ 02:32:54 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 03:00:03 -!- V has joined. 03:13:15 -!- Corbin has joined. 03:32:11 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Oerjan * moved [[User:Inferno/foresolang]] to [[Foresolang]]: In the language list, no special reason otherwise, so it should be in the main namespace 03:38:48 User:Language obviously has a special reason and i don't know what to do about that Melab thing. 03:52:56 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Oerjan * moved [[Y (programming language)]] to [[Y (Conor O'Brien)]]: More useful disambiguation 03:52:56 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Oerjan * moved [[Talk:Y (programming language)]] to [[Talk:Y (Conor O'Brien)]]: More useful disambiguation 03:54:09 [[Y]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92740&oldid=60801 * Oerjan * (-7) Snap redirect 03:57:19 -!- sdw has joined. 03:58:36 [[Plurple]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92741&oldid=92733 * Laclale * (+188) /* Commands */ 04:02:29 [[Talk:Y (Conor O'Brien)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92742&oldid=92738 * Oerjan * (+378) Half done 04:08:18 [[Plurple]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92743&oldid=92741 * Laclale * (+37) /* Commands */ 04:11:00 -!- ickk has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 04:13:32 [[Plurple]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92744&oldid=92743 * Laclale * (+40) /* Commands */ 04:25:49 [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92745&oldid=92700 * Oerjan * (+67) Ginorst & some cleanup 04:40:25 -!- sdw has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 05:50:26 -!- ickk has joined. 08:11:48 -!- Sgeo__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:43:09 [[Plurple]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92746&oldid=92744 * Laclale * (+153) /* Commands */ 09:12:19 tromp: I do remember, same question as oerjan... 09:13:19 meh, I missed an announcement that there's no running water today. 09:16:05 though I did avoid worst case scenarios like... being in the showerwhile they switch the water off 09:16:39 ouch 09:17:36 heh 09:20:52 (And it'll be back mid afternoon. They did the same thing last Thursday, but that time I was prepared.) 09:25:22 "файл" always cracks me up when I see it. (duckduckgo seems to think I'm russian) 09:26:55 (it's a phonetic transliteration of "file") 09:53:36 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btv68SAk-oM <- I think the first half of this video was great 09:53:41 I closed it for the second half 10:10:37 -!- Argorok has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 10:10:55 -!- op_4 has joined. 10:11:37 -!- maximum_yellow has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 10:11:51 -!- Argorok has joined. 10:11:57 -!- ecs has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 10:12:10 -!- ecs has joined. 10:15:39 -!- oerjan has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 10:15:48 -!- oerjan has joined. 10:19:50 -!- __monty__ has joined. 10:45:46 -!- user3456_ has joined. 10:45:55 -!- j4cbo_ has joined. 10:46:01 -!- dnm_ has joined. 10:46:03 -!- j4cbo has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 10:46:03 -!- j4cbo_ has changed nick to j4cbo. 10:46:08 -!- shikhin_ has joined. 10:46:29 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 10:46:32 -!- user3456 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 10:46:54 -!- shikhin_ has changed nick to shikhin. 10:46:55 -!- dnm has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 10:46:55 -!- Riviera has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 10:46:55 -!- dnm_ has changed nick to dnm. 10:47:21 -!- Soni has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 10:47:28 -!- SoniEx2 has joined. 10:51:16 -!- user3456 has joined. 10:51:21 -!- user3456_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 10:51:21 -!- __monty__ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 10:51:34 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 10:52:37 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 10:52:49 -!- __monty__ has joined. 10:53:20 -!- Byzantine__ has joined. 10:53:40 -!- Byzantine__ has changed nick to Byzantine. 10:59:16 -!- Riviera has joined. 11:05:22 fungot: You CAPTCHALOGUE them in your SYLLADEX. You have no idea what that actually means though. 11:05:23 riv: why are there so few major lisps? ( networking and concurrency, despite my fnord it assumes absolute... if you wanted :) 11:15:17 > UTC is currently exactly 37 seconds behind TAI. The 37 seconds result from the initial difference of 10 seconds at the start of 1972, plus 27 leap seconds in UTC since 1972. 11:15:18 > It is also easy to convert GPS time to TAI, as TAI is always exactly 19 seconds ahead of GPS time 11:15:18 :1:99: error: parse error on input ‘of’ 11:15:20 :1:43: error: parse error on input ‘,’ 11:15:36 nmbers related to leap seconds: 37, 27, 10, 19 11:27:37 -!- Byzantine has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:29:30 fungot: should I fix these 38 warnings? :-/ 11:29:30 int-e: can't grep for the stuff it needs ( such as those depicted on that page 11:30:07 fungot: you dropped this: ) 11:30:08 riv: s/ hum/ fnord right now. need to not compile one or the other 11:31:45 (some of those are stupid. i8 = i8 + i8 causes C++ to implicitly convert to int, then complain about the narrowing back to i8. Uh, where i8 = int8_t = signed char.) 11:32:07 s/C++/g++/ 11:33:27 free overflow risk warning :D 11:33:36 -!- Palaiologos[m] has quit (Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM). 11:33:39 -!- msmith12[m] has quit (Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM). 11:34:07 apparently clang++ treats it as an error. 11:36:05 sknebel: fine, but then why doesn't it give int + int the same treeatment... 11:38:14 yeah, it should offer that too 11:41:06 -!- msmith12[m] has joined. 11:47:43 -!- msmith12[m] has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:00:00 -!- ickk has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 12:00:41 -!- msmith12[m] has joined. 12:02:43 -!- msmith12[m] has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:03:07 int-e: i made some conjectures that would imply that result, hoping to prove them. but i alrd found counterexamples to two different conjectures. i'll keep trying though, using every counterexampole to make a new conjecture.... 12:08:09 -!- msmith12[m] has joined. 12:16:25 ^style homestuck 12:16:25 Selected style: homestuck (Homestuck pages 1901-4673) 12:16:32 fungot: Say something thematically appropriate? 12:16:32 fizzie: not that it would actually bother pitying you. i'm giving aradia a present that will make a new suit is all business quite frankly his brother makes a man want 12:16:40 -!- Palaiologos[m] has joined. 12:16:46 Slightly disappointing. 12:30:47 [[List of ideas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92747&oldid=92690 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+162) /* Ideas for Names */ This is not a page request. 12:35:29 -!- msmith12[m] has quit (Quit: Client limit exceeded: 20000). 12:36:07 is this a bell curve? https://paste.debian.net/1229174/ 12:36:29 -!- msmith12[m] has joined. 12:37:00 :) 12:37:43 over the weekend I stumbled over https://esolangs.org/wiki/LogOS 12:38:07 would be fun to have something along those lines where the interpreter works by clicking/alt-tabbing around a windows98 VM or sth 12:38:33 (also, the proposed spec seems to lack branching?) 12:38:53 -!- Byzantine__ has joined. 12:42:00 -!- tech_exorcist has joined. 12:44:35 [[User:ProjectEuler/pagebar]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92748&oldid=91813 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+627) Attempt to fix a bug 12:55:25 fungot: by gum! 12:55:26 riv: is it fair to say this whole thing is ridiculous 12:57:26 [[Project Euler/3]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92749&oldid=91819 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+206) Fixed template bug 13:06:31 -!- Byzantine__ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:08:01 https://www.homestuck.com/story/115 13:12:53 -!- APic has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 13:17:31 fungot: pretty fair 13:17:31 oerjan: be in cahoots with! you guess none the wiser, you board the shuttle. next stop, it's unbecoming suspense. you sincerely pity anyone who might be forced to face. you are jacked open on my lap and primed for the digestive ruination that's about to take is the ultimate riddle. 13:17:48 -!- shikhin has changed hostmask to ~shikhin@offtopia/offtopian. 13:18:36 ^style 13:18:36 Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck* ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube 13:18:56 `? password 13:18:58 The password of the month is Caught-22 13:29:11 -!- immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 13:47:54 -!- eli_oat has joined. 14:03:22 -!- wib_jonas has joined. 14:05:52 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 14:06:43 -!- immibis has joined. 14:12:10 -!- tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: see you later). 14:17:54 -!- A_Dragon has changed nick to NotAFurry. 14:24:53 -!- NotAFurry has changed nick to A_Dragon. 14:32:42 -!- kit has joined. 14:34:34 hi, im making an esolang based on sound frequencies via FFT and i need some help on deciding how i should convert frequencies to commands and stuff 14:35:10 idk what commands should be what frequencies 14:35:14 like 14:35:34 yea 14:35:40 idk how to phrase it? 14:36:01 i already have the thing to parse the pitches from the audio file 14:36:13 and convert it into a format that can be easily interpreted 14:36:19 i just need to make the interpreter 14:37:18 perhaps i can make it stack based 14:37:31 stack based langs are fun 14:38:43 I guess the "lazy" way is mapping to symbols in some other esolang. i.e. see all the variants of brainfuck that are brainfuck with other symbols. but there could be fun things with multiple frequencies in parallel 14:39:05 yea i was thinking about asynchronous 14:39:23 e.g. conditional jumps could be a tone splitting into two, and following the higher/lower one as a "line" to the right command sequence? 14:39:28 but i also dont want it to be a bf derivative because those are done to fucking death 14:39:33 yeah :D 14:39:42 hmm 14:39:55 i was thinking id map commands to frequencies 14:40:13 and for asynchronousity you can have multiple commands run at the same time 14:40:28 say, 440hz would be print or smth 14:40:49 but then comes the question how would i deal with multiple things modifying the same thing at once 14:43:08 ooh what if i had octaves mapped to various stacks 14:44:42 huh, how come when i go to places to talk about a problem im having i always figure it out myselgf 14:45:30 i could have commands mapped to chords, octaves map to different stacks... 14:45:34 bee 14:47:30 octave stacks is a fun idea 14:47:43 so you have multiple threads 14:56:13 wait 14:56:26 how would i deal with non-linear time things 14:56:27 like 14:56:28 loops 14:56:31 and conditionals 14:56:52 atm its just a stream of frequencies present in the audio 14:57:20 i may need to divide the frequencies up during preprocessing 14:57:34 -!- APic has joined. 15:06:39 im beginning to realize that it was a really bad idea to do this in C++... 15:07:22 fuck it im rewriting it in python 15:11:39 nope 15:11:58 i do not like python 15:12:05 im rambling arent i 15:12:10 ill shut up now 15:13:05 -!- kit has quit (Quit: leaving). 15:24:52 -!- tech_exorcist has joined. 15:26:33 -!- wib_jonas has quit (Quit: Client closed). 15:33:45 -!- Sgeo has joined. 15:40:27 -!- vyv has joined. 15:45:57 -!- op_4 has changed nick to maximum_yellow. 16:04:14 inr-e: here's my current Combinatory Logic Basis conjecture. Let T be a term over a basis of regular 2-variable combinators 16:06:21 then 1) T contains no subterm with 3 free variables, and 2) T contains no subterm T' with 2 free variables which has a subsubterm T'' with 2 free variables that are bound in T' 16:08:14 it seems to me that 1) & 2) together are preserved under beta reduction 16:10:17 to clarify, the pattern that 2) avoids is T = ... \x ... \y. T_xy, and T_xy = ... \a ... \b. T_ab 16:10:38 with T_xy denoting a term contains variables x and y 16:11:35 (I should have added more ... after those T_) 16:13:51 and inr-e should be int-e :-) 16:17:59 > "the Indian numbering system groups the rightmost three digits together (until the hundreds place), and thereafter groups by sets of two digits." 16:18:00 "the Indian numbering system groups the rightmost three digits together (unt... 16:28:28 hmm, can gdb access varargs arguments in a convenient way? 16:33:40 -!- silkworks has joined. 16:41:16 I guess not, but `info frame` gives me stack pointers to look nearby. 16:51:40 -!- delta23 has joined. 17:02:51 i,i "The full documentation for the stack frame is maintained as a Texinfo manual." 17:04:42 is there something magical about va_start() that relies on information that only the compiler knows, not the debugger? 17:07:13 I would guess that on a platform like amd64 with a complicated calling convention, the presence of va_start in a function tells the compiler to save registers in case it needs them. 17:09:06 -!- Trieste has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 17:13:50 go crux 17:13:56 bla 17:14:35 tromp: I don't understand the clarification of 2). Shouldn't there be x and y under the \a \b? 17:15:16 no, that's not required 17:15:41 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 17:17:02 the thing is that a term as in 1) that fails 2) as stated can beta reduce in one step to a term that fails 1) 17:17:57 simplest example being \x\y.(\a\z.z a) (x y) 17:19:10 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 17:20:56 Ah. 17:21:37 Right, 1) means you can't have x or y free in T_ab because that would make 3 free variables. 17:21:51 the conjecture should exclude all patterns that through beta reduction can result in a regular 3-variable combinator 17:22:45 right 17:25:16 quiz time: what's the simplest complete basis including W = \x\y.x y y as the only duplicating combinator? 17:26:36 -!- eli_oat has quit (Quit: eli_oat). 18:14:33 [[Project Euler/3]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92750&oldid=92749 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-21) /* C */ remove unused #define 18:18:12 -!- eli_oat has joined. 19:27:34 -!- eli_oat has quit (Quit: eli_oat). 19:53:52 -!- eli_oat has joined. 20:20:09 -!- salpynx has joined. 20:20:59 -!- eli_oat has quit (Quit: eli_oat). 20:27:55 -!- Sgeo has joined. 20:30:08 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 20:32:36 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_formatting_and_storage_bugs#Year_2022 20:51:30 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:52:11 -!- vyv has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!). 21:09:15 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 21:09:56 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 21:29:17 -!- Sgeo has joined. 21:31:07 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 21:38:09 -!- tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: Disconnecting). 23:20:35 -!- __monty__ has quit (Quit: leaving). 23:23:01 -!- j-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 23:23:14 -!- j-bot has joined.