< 1644624195 508207 :llk!~quassel@host.164-138-93-246.broadband.redcom.ru JOIN #esolangs * :llk < 1644624272 927671 :llk!~quassel@host.164-138-93-246.broadband.redcom.ru QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1644625537 485130 :transfusion!transfusio@thunix.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.4 < 1644625977 62375 :llk!~quassel@host.164-138-93-246.broadband.redcom.ru JOIN #esolangs * :llk < 1644626532 958305 :llk!~quassel@host.164-138-93-246.broadband.redcom.ru QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1644627257 621752 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1644627309 341546 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@178.214.250.172 QUIT :Quit: gone too far < 1644627591 99240 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1644628133 92926 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock JOIN #esolangs sprock :sprock < 1644629477 597162 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1644629491 85813 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1644630529 97202 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1644630922 606940 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1644631527 608876 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1644631545 93046 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in > 1644632942 353429 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93123&oldid=93077 5* 03Laclale 5* (+169) 10/* Game */ > 1644633051 204790 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93124&oldid=93123 5* 03Laclale 5* (-142) 10/* Game */ < 1644648089 74553 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1644652804 149106 :definitelya!~hexagon@host-82-55-87-93.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN #esolangs * :WRATH < 1644652889 880761 :definitelya!~hexagon@host-82-55-87-93.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :Heyyy! I am not a programmer, but I want to have a good workflow regardless. I'll be starting out the learning process using Befunge; I am ready, I think... < 1644652944 940455 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Cool. Befunge does not seem like the easiest first programming language, though. Good luck. < 1644652974 327276 :definitelya!~hexagon@host-82-55-87-93.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :mhm.. Thank you ^^ < 1644653007 604432 :definitelya!~hexagon@host-82-55-87-93.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :A good workflow is a 2D workflow! < 1644653287 128633 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You might find Orca interesting, too. It can make music < 1644653457 303284 :definitelya!~hexagon@host-82-55-87-93.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :True, I saw a video on it. It's neat and simple. < 1644653472 549949 :definitelya_!~hexagon@host-82-55-87-93.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN #esolangs * :WRATH < 1644653714 518280 :definitelya!~hexagon@host-82-55-87-93.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1644657040 721908 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN #esolangs * :WRATH < 1644657216 723440 :definitelya_!~hexagon@host-82-55-87-93.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1644657226 391047 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1644663763 113528 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1644663844 593959 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1644663853 79933 :Cale!~cale@cpef48e38ee8583-cm30b7d4b3fc20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1644664643 64786 :Cale!~cale@cpef48e38ee8583-cm30b7d4b3fc20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN #esolangs Cale :realname < 1644672452 79677 :tech_exorcist!txrcst@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 JOIN #esolangs tech_exorcist :he/him - IT, EN < 1644675384 646192 :tech_exorcist!txrcst@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1644675404 61355 :tech_exorcist!txrcst@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 JOIN #esolangs tech_exorcist :he/him - IT, EN < 1644676941 785025 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1644679121 750027 :razetime[m]!~razetimec@2001:470:69fc:105::1:9244 PRIVMSG #esolangs :befunge is fun.. do feel free to ask question < 1644682402 780678 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :razetime[m]: Thanks, I will probably consult the specification on github a lot. < 1644682462 345154 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am currently creating schematics with Minetest, a blocky game, but tomorrow I shall create something simple I guess. < 1644685233 120496 :dyeplexer!~dyeplexer@user/dyeplexer JOIN #esolangs dyeplexer :t b k ky jt h bc < 1644685351 949384 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock JOIN #esolangs sprock :sprock < 1644686043 779483 :oerjan!~oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN #esolangs oerjan :Ørjan Johansen < 1644687216 90491 :oerjan!~oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1644687891 862211 :sgji!~le@user/sgji PRIVMSG #esolangs :definitelya__, you can do whatever you want, but id advise against befunge as a first language, pretty much every other language would be better for a beginner to learn programming concepts < 1644687965 175151 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see, ok. It is complex. < 1644688009 169694 :sgji!~le@user/sgji PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was specifically designed to be complex, lol < 1644688115 948177 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :True < 1644689010 564915 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :We-ell... it was specifically designed to be hard to compile. I don't know if it's particularly complex as far as writing it goes. < 1644689064 910891 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll funge my way around it somehow. ;) < 1644689083 610515 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not saying I'd recommend it for learning how to program, the 2D syntax and lack of any "non-local" control flow (i.e., function calls) does make writing nontrivial programs somewhat tricky. But still. < 1644689100 714337 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: What do you think about learning to program using Befunge? < 1644689101 178582 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: maybe we could follow plan9 and have the right to be subversive? < 1644689112 212717 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(fungot itself is written in Befunge, so it should have a good idea about that.) < 1644689112 776846 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: do you want your language to do all the receives and values to make a cross-country flight to acapulco so i can make someone laugh < 1644689159 568171 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-103.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: Hofstadter says that that's not the right logic, because after all we're made of physics and biology but that doesn't make it easy for us to understand them < 1644689256 487933 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: Yes! I also saw a video on Befunge by Truttle1. < 1644689300 288186 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot seems vey functioning. < 1644689300 466984 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :definitelya__: it seems to < 1644689312 953267 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: Emphasis on the word "seems", eh? < 1644689313 303521 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: ( is it that intel cpus are terrible. it took me a long persistance display < 1644689319 271111 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :xD < 1644689330 427099 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :ohhh < 1644689335 80040 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :shots fired < 1644689355 523098 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: You're *running* on an Intel CPU right now. Is that why your responses are so terrible? < 1644689355 936608 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: i like scheme, modulo the definition of list-case in-line, and then < 1644689417 372410 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I guess that might have been an endorsement of Scheme as a first language?) < 1644689475 45290 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :mhm < 1644689487 762491 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll just have to trust the bot then :3 < 1644689569 438043 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :Too bad, no info yet on the wiki. < 1644689644 813857 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot, choose a programming language for me. < 1644689644 987577 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :definitelya__: that might be < 1644689668 81788 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot, choose an esolang for me. < 1644689668 641877 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :definitelya__: much more like to see these small korean girls in french fnord do have money over there, it's there for a while, < 1644690216 216531 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it meant https://esolangs.org/wiki/Enterprise%E2%84%A2 < 1644690453 524961 :dyeplexer!~dyeplexer@user/dyeplexer QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1644691085 877805 :sgji!~le@user/sgji PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie, i understand, i do think there is some coorelation between complexity to compile and to write, atleast in the case of befunge which i would consider to be complex to write, atleast for a first language < 1644692484 182958 :sgji!~le@user/sgji QUIT :Quit: Users computer has exploded < 1644692565 61088 :sgji_!~le@user/sgji JOIN #esolangs sgji :sgji < 1644692790 907429 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1644692826 876455 :sgji_!~le@user/sgji NICK :sgji < 1644692850 688080 :sgji!~le@user/sgji PRIVMSG #esolangs :sgeo, i like your name < 1644692875 586758 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi, ty < 1644692916 869843 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1644693331 3716 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1644693331 120701 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1644693489 225524 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1644693691 104292 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1644694597 576243 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock JOIN #esolangs sprock :sprock < 1644694902 531008 :pyautogui!~pyautogui@108-216-110-132.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://kiwiirc.com] pyautogui < 1644695008 337920 :pyautogui!~pyautogui@108-216-110-132.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Newbie question: I have occasionally been on esolangs.org for a couple of years now, and have noticed that the featured language has not changed from Thue. Why is that? It seems like there would be turnover. < 1644695041 531506 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1644695135 319853 :sgji!~le@user/sgji PRIVMSG #esolangs :bf was featured language for 8+ years, its just changed infrequently < 1644695144 965647 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's a very irregular process, and schedule: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Featured_languages < 1644695172 403048 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'd like to feature Befunge (already proposed as a candidate), but I just feel the article could do with some polishing first, and I never get around to it. < 1644695183 938006 :pyautogui!~pyautogui@108-216-110-132.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Got it. Thank you for the quick answer! < 1644695398 744183 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1644696089 127754 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :obpun: Shouldn't Turing tarpits rather be "unfeatured languages"? < 1644696127 132059 :riv!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :featherless < 1644696155 973270 :pyautogui!~pyautogui@108-216-110-132.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1644698606 783481 :oerjan!~oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN #esolangs oerjan :Ørjan Johansen < 1644700301 946216 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :riv: . o O ( BFS is so shallow ) < 1644705237 413975 :definitelya__!~hexagon@host-79-36-71-20.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1644705529 819915 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93125&oldid=88032 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (-136) 10/* Euler's number calculator */ shorter > 1644705934 624934 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93126&oldid=93125 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (-36) 10/* Three-param */ < 1644706424 3984 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-103.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: that < 1644706433 715640 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-103.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's why I suggest featuring Nopfunge instead < 1644707407 727887 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :why isn't the white border here symmetric? https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/playground.html (screenshot https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/playground.png ) < 1644707612 677956 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Inspecting the body element in Chrome says its computed height is 604. < 1644707680 386898 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It becomes symmetric for me if I add `display: block;` in the