> 1645836113 361808 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:DigitalDetective4714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93404&oldid=92255 5* 03DigitalDetective47 5* (-1) 10/* Languages */ Change rating of Cratefuck from 5 to 4 < 1645836221 538551 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :About d10s starting 0 rather than 1, some games will use them as numbers 1-10, but I had designed one that uses three dice of ten sides each to make a number 0-27. I had, some time ago, used coins like 0 and 2^i, too, but had not called them "bitcoins". < 1645838048 825279 :Everything!~Everythin@37.115.210.35 JOIN #esolangs Everything :Everything < 1645841397 576520 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1645841410 211869 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN #esolangs Taneb :Nathan van Doorn < 1645844430 131024 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs SGautam :Siddharth Gautam < 1645845461 854672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1645852189 679933 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity > 1645854661 564859 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mountain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93405&oldid=93397 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+114) 10 > 1645854809 465669 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mountain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93406&oldid=93405 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (-4) 10 > 1645855775 833893 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kak+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93407&oldid=93377 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+28) 10 > 1645855851 718131 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kak+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93408&oldid=93407 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+1) 10 > 1645856203 530833 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kak+-14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93409 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+782) 10Created page with "'''Kak+-''' is another derivate of [[Kak]] made by its author! It is two-dimensional, like [[Kak+]] but with less commands ==Commands== {| class="wikitable" |- ! Command !! Me..." > 1645856242 964912 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kak+-14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93410&oldid=93409 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+0) 10 > 1645856468 548086 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kak+-14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93411&oldid=93410 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+0) 10 > 1645856496 111964 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kak+-14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93412&oldid=93411 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+4) 10 > 1645856541 366504 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kak+-14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93413&oldid=93412 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+0) 10 > 1645856970 500828 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ChuckEsoteric0814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93414&oldid=93287 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+60) 10 > 1645860949 289990 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ChuckEsoteric0814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93415&oldid=93414 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+150) 10 < 1645862064 230420 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh no < 1645862074 199352 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :adding 2 dice together will not create a uniform distribution < 1645862080 407632 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is an overlap region where things will be more likely < 1645862091 319262 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :except if you have 1 dice even numbers and the other 0,1 < 1645862111 288299 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it seeems like there will be very few ways to add 2 dice, and maybe no ways to add 3 dice to get a uniform distribution? < 1645862291 701159 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://fulmicoton.com/posts/dices/ found this < 1645862316 493055 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :> let dsum = sort . map sum . sequence in dsum [[0, 3, 12, 15, 24, 27],[0, 1, 2, 6, 7, 8]] < 1645862318 236492 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : [0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,2... < 1645862386 972083 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :seems that i was wrong somehow > 1645862493 765040 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Jimm 5* 10New user account < 1645862512 692717 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :[0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5] < 1645862514 999721 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :[0, 6, 12, 18, 24, 30] < 1645862517 803097 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is rather simple and understandable < 1645862526 907891 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is clear how this works < 1645862549 916233 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :one dice is [0..n], the other is k*[0..m] < 1645862559 608410 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :one dice is [0..n-1], the other is n*[0..m] < 1645862585 395833 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the other are not simple, < 1645862587 638168 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :why does this work? < 1645862589 990128 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :[0, 3, 6, 9, 12, 15] < 1645862591 990430 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :[0, 1, 2, 18, 19, 20] < 1645862676 345127 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh because we have an AP and then 2 short APs < 1645862700 673529 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :it seems that this is always the case < 1645862723 970030 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :both dice are APs of APs, basically < 1645862802 855247 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :so yes we may construct pairs, triples of dice that produce uniform distributions for composite numbers < 1645862812 341929 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :but can not produce prime numbers? < 1645862820 90227 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :really the goal was to get things 7 or 14 < 1645863709 192410 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes these observations are proved in e.g. Theorem 5 Gallian, J. A.; Rusin, D. J. (1979), "Cyclotomic polynomials and nonstandard dice < 1645863737 919073 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :well not exactly these but related things < 1645869684 13281 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1645871631 77592 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07%14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93416&oldid=85472 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+1885) 10Extended the documentation based upon the command table and the truth-machine example. > 1645871688 391034 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07%14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93417&oldid=93416 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+164) 10Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the % programming language on GitHub. < 1645874370 756294 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown > 1645876034 787256 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ChuckEsoteric0814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93418&oldid=93415 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+203) 10 < 1645878973 985029 :Everything!~Everythin@37.115.210.35 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1645879865 196102 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :well if you roll NdR in order, you can interpret it as a uniformly distributed N-digit base-R number < 1645879908 629602 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's not "adding" dice, but it is combining the results of them < 1645879935 673877 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh that's basically what you said? I guess < 1645879988 59264 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i don't want anything that involves rejection and re-reolling < 1645880180 344180 :definitelya!~hexagon@host-95-244-64-254.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN #esolangs * :WRATH < 1645884220 78277 :tech_exorcist!txrcst@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 JOIN #esolangs tech_exorcist :he/him - IT, EN < 1645885063 400955 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://math.stackexchange.com/a/1046958 proof by contradiction that you cant put 2 dice together to make an 11 sided result < 1645885068 897136 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats a shame < 1645885181 904802 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh sure, you can't really do arbitrary ranges without rejection sampling I think < 1645885203 86057 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :damn! < 1645885211 374067 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :at least I don't see how :p < 1645885270 415276 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :though, kinda related in a way, I learned recently about this new algorithm (from last year) for generating uniform numbers in [0..N]: https://github.com/apple/swift/pull/39143 < 1645886175 891120 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I knew about the Lemiere thing. < 1645886225 61487 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :From seeing it used by Go's math/rand, specifically. https://cs.opensource.google/go/go/+/master:src/math/rand/rand.go;l=140-162;drc=a294e4e798d75ee9cf167a75189b1b0dff3664f1 < 1645886262 443608 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/Lemiere/Lemire/ oops > 1645886354 624955 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Test.....10]]": redirect left behind after someone experimented with cross-namespace page moves > 1645886376 114288 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02UwUScript10]]": Author request: content before blanking was: "#REDIRECT [[UwU: A cute esolang]]" > 1645886406 412158 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Esolang:UwU10]]": invalid cross-namespace redirect to a userpage > 1645886526 666701 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PhoenixHO14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93419 5* 03Ais523 5* (+357) 10please don't rename pages repeatedly > 1645886821 3469 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lakshayati14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93420&oldid=93372 5* 03Ais523 5* (+87) 10a couple of extra categories, + intro formatting > 1645890810 742562 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Newton14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93421&oldid=82615 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-2) 10/* Cat program */ fix > 1645892484 913384 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PhoenixHO14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93422&oldid=93419 5* 03PhoenixHO 5* (+196) 10/* Page moves */ > 1645893956 205698 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:DigitalDetective4714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93423&oldid=93404 5* 03DigitalDetective47 5* (+91) 10Re-added WIP link < 1645894524 733810 :immibis!~hexchat@62.156.144.218 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1645895867 187109 :immibis!~hexchat@62.156.144.218 JOIN #esolangs * :realname > 1645897560 602875 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UwU: A cute esolang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93424&oldid=93399 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+30) 10Distinguish confusion > 1645897669 948577 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UwU14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93425&oldid=81281 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+68) 10Distinguish confusion < 1645898968 59894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN #esolangs oerjan :Ørjan Johansen > 1645899827 554256 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:DigitalDetective47/WIP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93426&oldid=92245 5* 03DigitalDetective47 5* (+865) 10 < 1645900658 915601 :mtve!~mtve@2a00:1370:817c:645f:652b:cf9b:b775:43be JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] mtve < 1645900792 543550 :mtve!~mtve@2a00:1370:817c:645f:652b:cf9b:b775:43be PART :#esolangs < 1645901047 58745 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1645904936 651594 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1645904940 757694 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1645905097 862421 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1645910887 791704 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Recently in a role playing game, we had a spell that had computed damage by rolling 1d6 and 1d20 and multiply them together, and then divide by 2. I had also read somewhere a way of approximating a Poisson distribution by the use of multiple 8-sided dice; if you roll the highest number then you must try again, but only the highest number counts if you do try again. < 1645911432 430277 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :If duration is based on several uniform dice added together, or some added and some subtracted, can you use cards to not know the duration until it expires? If the duration is only one dice, then this can be done easily, by mixing up six cards one of which is a joker, and draw them one at a time; when you find the joker, then you expire. < 1645911529 403374 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Or, if multiplied, etc) > 1645911876 514902 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:DigitalDetective47/WIP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93427&oldid=93426 5* 03DigitalDetective47 5* (-865) 10Undo revision 93426 by [[Special:Contributions/DigitalDetective47|DigitalDetective47]] ([[User talk:DigitalDetective47|talk]]) > 1645912078 127474 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:DigitalDetective4714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93428&oldid=93423 5* 03DigitalDetective47 5* (-91) 10Undo revision 93423 by [[Special:Contributions/DigitalDetective47|DigitalDetective47]] ([[User talk:DigitalDetective47|talk]]) < 1645913285 633778 :tech_exorcist!txrcst@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 QUIT :Quit: Disconnecting < 1645915893 373472 :definitelya!~hexagon@host-95-244-64-254.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Quit: h < 1645916927 919209 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@20014C4C1CB08400698BED21ECF32D3B.catv.pool.telekom.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1645916964 319939 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@20014C4C1CB08400698BED21ECF32D3B.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :re https://logs.esolangs.org/freenode-esoteric/2019-08-02.html#lY the old challenge about approximating a number with an integer with only small prime factors, https://twitter.com/gro_tsen/status/1494053932812967936 may be relevant < 1645916980 678912 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@20014C4C1CB08400698BED21ECF32D3B.catv.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's not the same task, but still < 1645917053 639255 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@20014C4C1CB08400698BED21ECF32D3B.catv.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Client Quit < 1645917184 490960 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :possibly, working in log space and with enough precision < 1645919173 708540 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1645919481 784502 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The /cattihood/ of a path P is the probability p(Cat | P) of encountering a cat during a walk of the given path. Practical optimization algorithms are often based on maximizing the log-cattihood. < 1645919484 377877 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I saw a cat while out for a walk today.)