> 1646353135 745135 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07=,-&~14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93526&oldid=85405 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+1559) 10Extended the documentation based upon the command table and the truth-machine example. > 1646353236 831834 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07=,-&~14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93527&oldid=93526 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+578) 10Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the =,-&~ programming language on GitHub and changed the category tag Unimplemented to Implemented. > 1646353483 160985 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07=,-&~14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93528&oldid=93527 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+506) 10Added two further examples: an infinitely repeating cat program and a Fibonacci sequence printer. < 1646353490 265841 :immibis!~hexchat@2a02:3032:3:a84:62b2:c42d:455d:d277 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1646353502 144196 :immibis!~hexchat@2a02:3032:3:a84:62b2:c42d:455d:d277 JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1646353705 914715 :Guest2189!~Guest21@104-180-254-177.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Guest21 < 1646353738 938223 :Guest2189!~Guest21@104-180-254-177.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello < 1646353743 359350 :Guest2189!~Guest21@104-180-254-177.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :what is this < 1646353750 629950 :Guest2189!~Guest21@104-180-254-177.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :what is esolang????????????? < 1646353762 293456 :Guest2189!~Guest21@104-180-254-177.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?????????????? < 1646353785 30523 :Guest2189!~Guest21@104-180-254-177.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow dead chat < 1646353789 620174 :Guest2189!~Guest21@104-180-254-177.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1646353804 956665 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did in fact type a `welcome, but then thought better of it. < 1646355006 738305 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: ARE YOU DEAD TOO? < 1646355007 259404 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: was going to be homeless soon, no one's ported it to scheme48, operates cleanly with the mechanism he's using call/ cc < 1646355049 818704 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: what is esolang? < 1646355050 283215 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Corbin: each element of its second argument. ( with-... here ( output))) without letting me see the result :) < 1646355072 840487 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh no, fungot's going to be homeless? < 1646355073 246200 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: it's dash peculiar?' have you ever tried hacking the stalin source? > 1646356503 744862 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071 Line Challenge14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93529 5* 03Childishbeat 5* (+2502) 10Created. > 1646357922 403971 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071 Line Challenge14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93530&oldid=93529 5* 03Childishbeat 5* (+0) 10Down to up was the wrong way round. < 1646358549 492202 :immibis_!~hexchat@62.156.144.218 JOIN #esolangs immibis :realname > 1646358711 921410 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93531&oldid=93525 5* 03Totobird Creations 5* (+215) 10/* Introductions */ < 1646358717 53966 :immibis!~hexchat@2a02:3032:3:a84:62b2:c42d:455d:d277 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1646360136 501429 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm. Email with the subject line "Join the Illuminati". You'd think they'd be a little more careful about recruiting. < 1646360214 641623 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not really. We'll take anybody. < 1646360222 641594 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Who? < 1646360222 790809 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Note: Some email providers incorrectly place official Illuminati messages in their spam / junk folder or promotion folder." Ooh, how dare they. < 1646360250 155146 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :That seems wrong... < 1646360267 210757 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :...the spam folder is where you *deliberately* put secret messages because most people don't look there. < 1646360382 650387 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The message goes into some detail on the benefits of joining (fame, riches, powers and so on) but is curiously quiet on the accompanying responsibilities, other than to advise that disloyalty is highly not tolerated. < 1646360447 384162 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :how odd < 1646360459 115050 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :peculiar even < 1646360573 909213 :eli_oat!~eli_oat@185.202.220.95 JOIN #esolangs eli_oat :eli_oat < 1646360594 655027 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Fame, riches, powers? This sounds like an MLM. A true Discordian only craves hot dogs, and only occasionally. < 1646360628 760411 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: If every pork chop were perfect, we wouldn't have hot dogs. < 1646360628 949922 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Corbin: neither in caps nor in lowercase < 1646360730 297545 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: Ooh, is it in the highly secret third case then? < 1646360730 695994 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: bfvga does line-buffered input.)? < 1646360834 660879 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I heard from a video once that the UK information classification level that's now called "Top Secret" used to be called "Most Secret" instead, but got Americanized at some point. < 1646361754 61405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN #esolangs oerjan :Ørjan Johansen < 1646363054 221410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs : I did in fact type a `welcome, but then thought better of it. <-- naturally. `relcome is where it's at. < 1646363216 883428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :spam is of course bottom secret, that's why everyone gets it. < 1646364337 849301 :eli_oat!~eli_oat@185.202.220.95 QUIT :Quit: eli_oat > 1646364593 844816 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93532&oldid=93486 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+23) 10add /* Non-alphabetic */ < 1646365073 18982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm that breaks my intended sorting rule of not ignoring spaces - but that corner case hasn't been tested before. > 1646365477 705102 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93533&oldid=93532 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+137) 10/* Non-alphabetic */ orst, and state how this section is different < 1646372578 315102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok my prediction failed. maybe next comic. < 1646372584 995201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it's nice when you're prediction is sure to happen eventually) < 1646372595 241090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :*your < 1646372601 114786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :>_< < 1646372748 375214 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hm. Flame? Lanterns have flames. < 1646372757 19209 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: Frozen flame? < 1646372757 700597 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Corbin: egobot is lying around in the first case is impossible, it's easier to reason about a multi-phase macro expansion, i already though a bit of a pain < 1646375920 927369 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1646376334 811753 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1646376352 7296 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1646376535 70226 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1646377806 64615 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1646378171 693584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1646381576 399974 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( 586081^2 is not prohibitively large if you handle each pair in 10 cycles. feels wrong though :P ) < 1646381818 903112 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Unfortunately, there were no fireworks either. Just exposition. < 1646383575 434922 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1646385843 746383 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1646389700 825783 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1646389758 35129 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: The frozen flame is actually a piece of Lavos, you know. < 1646389758 435185 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: fnord it's usually pronounced ( and thus didn't see/ hear anything)? i don't know < 1646390639 639688 :immibis!~hexchat@2a02:3032:a:5f88:44a5:c3af:6367:30ff JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1646390737 551802 :immibis_!~hexchat@62.156.144.218 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1646398798 726166 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: fnordgot < 1646398799 15184 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :river: i couldn't evaluate your expression in the given time. ( in haskell mode) < 1646398807 310813 :river!~My_user_n@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: flip concat map < 1646398807 561578 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :river: optimize ( let-values ( ( ( < 1646399066 918941 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@cst2-26-227.cust.vodafone.cz JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1646399117 642727 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@cst2-26-227.cust.vodafone.cz PRIVMSG #esolangs :" Oh no, fungot's going to be homeless?" => he's hosted in Finland and is worried about Putin < 1646399117 916988 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: i just heard today that nobody likes anything about me. :x < 1646399170 233285 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: Oh, that's not true! Everyone loves you! You're the best bot. < 1646399170 527792 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: ( isdn hasn't thrown more errors yet), but < 1646399192 322067 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(We don't want it to start sulking.) < 1646399216 388492 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@cst2-26-227.cust.vodafone.cz PRIVMSG #esolangs :“Hmm. Email with the subject line "Join the Illuminati".” => I just got one with "Extend your research in Mathematics". an e-penis extension method. < 1646402318 94045 :eli_oat!~eli_oat@185.229.59.52 JOIN #esolangs eli_oat :eli_oat < 1646405516 706253 :abraham2!~abraham@143.244.185.86 JOIN #esolangs abraham :abraham < 1646405579 161165 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1646405608 99673 :slavfox_!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1646405669 923547 :Hoolootwo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org JOIN #esolangs * :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1646405992 298253 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1646405992 420068 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1646405992 485810 :abraham!~abraham@143.244.185.86 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1646405992 527093 :Cale!~cale@cpef48e38ee8583-cm30b7d4b3fc20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1646405992 591655 :zegalch!~zegalch@178.128.75.133 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1646405992 907952 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1646405993 694694 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1646405997 296139 :slavfox_!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 NICK :slavfox < 1646405997 347785 :abraham2!~abraham@143.244.185.86 NICK :abraham < 1646406023 199443 :zegalch!~zegalch@178.128.75.133 JOIN #esolangs zegalch :The Lounge User < 1646406451 801913 :Cale!~cale@cpef48e38ee8583-cm30b7d4b3fc20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN #esolangs Cale :realname > 1646407116 445463 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Limes 5* 10New user account < 1646407282 529681 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1646409853 293761 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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Pic. - my name since YOLD 3149 < 1646410657 359052 :immibis!~hexchat@2a02:3032:a:5f88:44a5:c3af:6367:30ff QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1646410665 281463 :immibis!~hexchat@2a02:3032:a:5f88:44a5:c3af:6367:30ff JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1646410849 169534 :immibis!~hexchat@2a02:3032:a:5f88:44a5:c3af:6367:30ff QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1646410857 258335 :immibis!~hexchat@2a02:3032:a:5f88:44a5:c3af:6367:30ff JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1646411242 728880 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@cst2-26-227.cust.vodafone.cz QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1646411650 15319 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1646411786 296402 :immibis!~hexchat@2a02:3032:a:5f88:44a5:c3af:6367:30ff QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1646411819 289222 :immibis!~hexchat@2a02:3032:a:5f88:44a5:c3af:6367:30ff JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1646414085 535896 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1646414368 876206 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1646414907 47472 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1646415545 113770 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1646416221 888195 :slavfox_!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1646416266 382521 :slavfox_!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 NICK :slavfox < 1646416884 849797 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1646416953 539878 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1646417913 696347 :eli_oat!~eli_oat@185.229.59.52 QUIT :Quit: eli_oat < 1646420481 769822 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1646420887 884861 :eli_oat!~eli_oat@185.202.220.98 JOIN #esolangs eli_oat :eli_oat < 1646420968 734076 :eli_oat!~eli_oat@185.202.220.98 QUIT :Client Quit < 1646421346 915184 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@2a02:c38:d77d:380a:c95a:f833:9e7d:ed80 JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1646421378 226995 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@2a02:c38:d77d:380a:c95a:f833:9e7d:ed80 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot, how would you rank impedance among your favorite styles of dance? < 1646421378 726403 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: ( i just realised i'm in the minority... i never saved it so i can still work on some designs for them :o < 1646421399 641036 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@2a02:c38:d77d:380a:c95a:f833:9e7d:ed80 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: you can still work on them after you save < 1646421399 889733 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: but not any more than you < 1646421456 617606 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@2a02:c38:d77d:380a:c95a:f833:9e7d:ed80 PRIVMSG #esolangs :don't compare yourself to the best you can find on the internet, that can only lead to disappointment. < 1646421907 621610 :eli_oat!~eli_oat@185.229.59.143 JOIN #esolangs eli_oat :eli_oat < 1646421909 518575 :eli_oat!~eli_oat@185.229.59.143 QUIT :Client Quit < 1646422336 786618 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1646423015 625911 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1646423358 598992 :immibis_!~hexchat@62.156.144.218 JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1646423396 3944 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1646423469 6013 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1646423511 232625 :immibis!~hexchat@2a02:3032:a:5f88:44a5:c3af:6367:30ff QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1646423572 727950 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1646423621 891590 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1646423654 882117 :eli_oat!~eli_oat@185.202.220.139 JOIN #esolangs eli_oat :eli_oat < 1646423738 183499 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1646423940 331970 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: can you do better than brute force on this month's Ponder This!? < 1646423940 643277 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: ( f x)) ( register-proc! " /bar" bar)) < 1646424065 671785 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: I'll take that as a no. Please balance your parentheses... < 1646424066 123979 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: it's kind of axiomatic systems, not yours.) http://befunge.org/fis/ fnord ( see fnord) and fnord to reconstruct the source code > 1646424296 503760 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07AMiaBF!?14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93534&oldid=85519 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+448) 10Extended the documentation based upon the command table and the extant examples. < 1646424337 323016 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(none of my ideas so far have gone beyond the back-of-an-envelope computation of feasibility; it's nice to reduce the number of inner loop iterations by a factor of 5 but not when you replace a 9 cycle inner loop by something more complicated that has to traverse auxiliary data structures) > 1646424370 480168 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07AMiaBF!?14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93535&oldid=93534 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+605) 10Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the AMiaBF!? programming language on GitHub and changed the category tag Unimplemented to Implemented. > 1646424463 57613 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07AMiaBF!?14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93536&oldid=93535 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+152) 10Addded an example involving the arithmetic derivative. < 1646424489 501265 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1646425235 58209 :eli_oat!~eli_oat@185.202.220.139 QUIT :Quit: eli_oat < 1646425446 237682 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1646425603 420274 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The Perl prototype had an enforced punctuation balancer (with a stack, just ignoring mismatched close tokens and adding all the missing close tokens at the end of the sentence), but I never got around to porting that over to the Befunge version. < 1646426420 75721 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@2a02:c38:d77d:380a:c95a:f833:9e7d:ed80 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot, is "semi-irregular" a word < 1646426420 345577 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: well i'm thinking just evaluate all ( expr) all the time < 1646427317 257335 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@2a02:c38:d77d:380a:c95a:f833:9e7d:ed80 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1646428366 945194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN #esolangs oerjan :Ørjan Johansen < 1646428776 502337 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1646429628 124443 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1646429773 892842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( occasionally, about half of the time ) < 1646429883 94217 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait, does this mean that I can predict coin flips with perfect semi-accuracy? < 1646429904 856947 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yay, Bytemark replied that it was just their bug re the discount vs. price increase, and said they'll continue to provide the thing at no cost. < 1646429906 895453 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :HackEso: In other words, you'll continue to be supplied with delicious alternating current, no need to worry. < 1646429957 50606 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: nice! < 1646430005 415628 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I imagine one tiny VPS is a roundoff error at any "serious" provider's scale, but it's still appreciated. < 1646430222 950880 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: "rounding error"... just think of the value of that dedicated IPv4 address ;) < 1646430264 711840 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess there's that. Those are going at, what, $50/address now? < 1646430380 83227 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( $200B market cap ) < 1646430404 556996 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://ipv4marketgroup.com/ipv4-pricing/ has graphs ending around $30 < 1646430405 296177 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e000:80af:b2a5:21e5:1467 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1646430418 685164 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1646430441 975566 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was going by an article at https://blog.apnic.net/2021/12/16/opinion-ipv4-address-markets/ < 1646430478 375217 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A previous consumer ISP gave me a /29 of IPv4 addresses at home, I guess that'd be kind of unlikely these days. < 1646430589 254995 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The current one instead charges £5/month for a single one, which I'm paying for no really defensible reason. And have been paying for long enough for them to have recouped their losses, even if they had to pay current prices for it. < 1646430682 910436 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e000:80af:b2a5:21e5:1467 QUIT :Client Quit < 1646430705 167615 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e000:80af:b2a5:21e5:1467 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1646430709 894694 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh is this a paid "fixed IP, definitely no NAT" service? < 1646430748 750330 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The whole IPv6 story is sad. < 1646430750 875141 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah. Although I don't think they do CGNAT even for non-payers. Maybe. I guess I don't know. < 1646430790 303864 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ACTION is on a cheap mobile connection < 1646430802 758959 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The same £5/month does also mean the /56 that they give to me over DHCPv6 is fixed. < 1646430810 810919 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :inet 10.93.160.254 netmask 255.255.255.255 destination 10.0.0.1 < 1646430859 365201 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well that's something. < 1646430909 430667 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :When it works. ;) It's already twice done that thing where IPv6 just stops working. < 1646430929 244622 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But the reason you pay for this is simple... it's a feature that most users won't miss *at all*. So you can sell it as an add-on to those who want it. < 1646430954 62785 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And you should be happy that you don't have to upgrade to a (5 times more expensive) business account for this :-P < 1646430954 104233 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e000:80af:b2a5:21e5:1467 QUIT :Client Quit < 1646430976 169449 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e000:80af:b2a5:21e5:1467 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1646431002 586413 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(CGNAT... yeah maybe that's something people would notice now-adays. There's quite a few games that do peer to peer communication.) < 1646431066 549125 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And I suspect that's typically UDP, so hard for connection tracking. < 1646431126 708405 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Unless I misunderstand what CGNAT actually doe... I'm assuming it maps several consumer side IPs to one ISP-owned IP. I should check.) < 1646431150 717476 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :*does < 1646431218 407153 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, there's that. One of those "we build our own fibre" ISPs (CommunityFibre) sent me (well, "The Occupier" at this address, they don't know my name) a letter the other day that they're going to be expanding around here. They sell a 3 Gbps consumer service (which is pretty odd), but only do static IPs for "business customers". < 1646431365 525208 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1646431513 793784 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :i,i {-# LANGUAGE CGNATs #-} < 1646431545 837688 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :A few years ago the ISP that I have had enabled NAT by default, but the modem has an option to disable NAT, which I had used, since I have my own router. The IP address is dynamic but it does not change often. < 1646431640 220464 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(It seems that my vague assumptions about CGNAT were correct.) < 1646431762 760649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: how well do gnats program C, anyway? < 1646431763 45220 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan: i have on my desktop < 1646431772 669837 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Of course rather than switching off IPv4 we invent new ways to cope... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Control_Protocol < 1646431780 506723 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(had not seen that one before) < 1646432140 160778 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I knew of UPnP-IGD, and I think I had heard of NAT-PMP, but maybe not PCP. < 1646432175 33531 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it solves the port correspondence problem < 1646433567 606821 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1646434282 826344 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e000:80af:b2a5:21e5:1467 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1646434305 233026 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e000:80af:b2a5:21e5:1467 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1646434472 501905 :eli_oat!~eli_oat@185.202.220.96 JOIN #esolangs eli_oat :eli_oat < 1646434554 105310 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e000:80af:b2a5:21e5:1467 QUIT :Client Quit < 1646434576 170223 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e000:80af:b2a5:21e5:1467 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1646434882 827084 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e000:80af:b2a5:21e5:1467 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1646434902 164637 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e000:80af:b2a5:21e5:1467 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1646434951 52078 :eli_oat!~eli_oat@185.202.220.96 QUIT :Quit: eli_oat < 1646435004 655281 :eli_oat!~eli_oat@185.202.220.96 JOIN #esolangs eli_oat :eli_oat < 1646435030 81041 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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