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< 1649548847 812329 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok done
< 1649548882 468150 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :we really should have IOCCC and Sigbovik categories on the wiki
< 1649548900 768856 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I don't dare to create them after what you said to me when I created the ICFP one
< 1649548908 856434 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I leave this to the wiki admins
< 1649548920 180262 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :SIGBOVIK really, it's all uppercase
< 1649549593 479277 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Btw if anyone wants to try for a smaller bitgrid GoL unit cell, one obvious (but messy) idea is to route the result *through* the circuit that computes it rather than around id.
< 1649549639 633299 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(since the circuit propagates stuff from left to right, one can propagate something else from right to left at the same time)
< 1649549762 829265 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Notation is still a big issue :)
< 1649549812 306208 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, sorry, making smaller game of life circuits in bitgrid is not among my life goals, not even after I wrote game of life implementations in perl and J and C
< 1649549843 38029 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the perl one is actually an interesting one
< 1649549871 30528 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Just putting it out there because I'm not going to do it either ;)
< 1649549902 418880 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(the J one is somewhat golfy but doesn't really have anything special in it; the C one was like twentysomething years ago and wasn't trying to be optimized or anything)
< 1649550184 141566 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm happy with the sorting network based evaluation function anyway... it's really about routing the signal... but that's more tedious than interesting.
< 1649550187 400605 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there a specification for fragment identifiers in a URL for referencing specific tables and specific rows of tables in a SQLite database?
< 1649550438 329972 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: "choose to attack with normal mode or disabling mode" => why do you need that? you can just say "may choose a creature an opponent controls" or whatever, and then refer to "if you did", like in the template of Gaze of Pain.
< 1649550476 734412 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that template is not very common, because most of the time the ability just automatically does nothing when it can't find the creature you chose, but still
< 1649550520 419657 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? pdf
< 1649550522 89288 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :PDF stands for Pretty Depressing Format.
< 1649550529 195356 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder if I should put the page number thing there
< 1649550564 948915 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :That could work, although still it will need to remember and that others can refer to it too, and I am unsure if the creature that you choose should now be considered to be engaged in combat. Either way, it affects other rules having to do with combat, too.
< 1649550593 455574 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(such as which declarations of blockers are legal, and what happens during the combat damage step)
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< 1649550812 694674 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: for Gaze of Pain, it's still in combat. I don't know of a card with an "attack mode" that then removes it from combat, normally you'd just use a tap ability instead.
< 1649550871 387764 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you could have an attack mode or an optional attack cost that removes the attacker from combat, but that would be a bit unexpected, and I'm not sure why you'd want to use that instead of a tap ability
< 1649550897 955649 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean maybe you really want the ability to be unusable if the creature can't attack
< 1649550942 886536 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It isn't the attacking creature I mean, but the opposing creature that you are trying to affect with your attack (which might not necessarily be a creature by the time it is affected, but usually it is).
< 1649550956 663720 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I guess you can have a variant where you can bounce the creature as a cost for your effect after it attacks
< 1649550991 374672 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: wait, how would that work exactly then? what would be the full text?
< 1649551052 666465 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I assume you don't just want a Trap Runner
< 1649551088 225334 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or a Curtain of Light
< 1649551094 732371 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It would have to be added to the rules; it is not a activated or triggered ability.
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< 1649551159 487808 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, but what specifically?
< 1649551170 619355 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I assume it's also not an (additional) attack cost
< 1649551280 580745 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean an attack cost like Brainwash ... by the way it's weird that that ability doesn't also exist in blue
< 1649551438 18204 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :blue can add an upkeep cost, or keep the creature from untapping (and possibly also tap it), and variations on that
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< 1649551526 733460 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, I wonder if Thirst could be printed for 1U these days, or for U if it doesn't tap the creature
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< 1649551631 926429 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Take into Custody is a recent card that gives an idea of how you could price this these days
< 1649551664 679404 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :You would choose what creature (maybe it should be considered to be attacking that creature in disabling mode, instead of attacking a player). That creature cannot block unless something else blocks the attacking creature. During the combat damage step, if it is still in combat in this way, and the attack is not blocked, when it would assign the damage, instead stuns the target; power is ignored.
< 1649551717 49699 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :If an object stuns a permanent, then that permanent is tapped, and until its controllers cleanup step, cannot be untapped during the untap step, nor attack or block or use any activated abilities. A permanent with protection from the object stunning it is not affected.
< 1649551752 80591 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :If it is blocked, then damage should be assigned normally but also stuns each creature it assigns damage to; or, maybe the effect should be different in this case.
< 1649551769 557978 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :either it's too late or you're phrasing that weird
< 1649551778 341433 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or I'm missing some context
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< 1649551850 964802 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, maybe. Or maybe I am unclear.
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< 1649552439 19629 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so this is an evasoin ability on your attacking creature, and it would place a weird blocking restriction that has to look at the whole blocking assignment, sort of like the "this creature can't block alone" or "this creature can't be blocked by more than one creature" or menace?
< 1649552496 776294 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and then after that evasion ability, if the creature remains unblocked, it does something with the same creature of the opponent that you chose earlier for the evasion?
< 1649552528 366687 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the evasion is not stopped by protection but you want the stun to stop it? 
< 1649552534 94911 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :this sounds way too complicated for its own good
< 1649552576 31124 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, I admit it's not as crazy as banding
< 1649552798 341621 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, we need a parody 5-cycle of legendary lands from Legends with “Blue legends lose banding and all ‘bands with other’ abilities.”
< 1649552908 770306 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean that the creature being disabled cannot block anything unless the attacking creature that is trying to disable it is blocked by a different creature.
< 1649552936 95436 :razetime!~quassel@117.254.35.102 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime
< 1649552963 482504 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :And the creature using disabling attack mode will not deal any damage, since it does something else during the combat damage step instead (twice if it has double strike, although this is redundant unless it is blocked).
< 1649553130 424579 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: yes, that first part sounds like a complex restriction on the blocking assignment. it can't just be a trigger, because it's too late after the blocking assignments (unless you want something like banding that changes the blocking assignment after the fact) and too early before that. 
< 1649553144 232746 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I still think all this together is too complicated, but you may save parts of it
< 1649553184 94413 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :just the blocking restriction could work, but you're trying to add too many things after that
< 1649553283 551504 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or if you want to add more, then use something simpler than that blocking restriction, like you choose a blocker after the assignment and remove it from combat and detain it or something
< 1649553343 67343 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and don't try to add a clause where protection stops half of your ability but not the whole thing, either make it targeting so protection blocks it (and other abiligies that affect targeting find it too) or just don't have protection care about it
< 1649553391 101839 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like I said, it is meant to be a extra rule which is in effect if the creature has the static ability "disable"; it is not a triggered or activated ability. But, yes, it could be changed to work differently, anyways.
< 1649553421 599171 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or if you want protection to specifically affect something that isn't a target, you can make it a damage with a weird effect like wither/infect, or a damage trigger, or a replacement ability on damage
< 1649553520 864073 :Soni!~quassel@autistic.space NICK :QueerDOVengeance
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< 1649553641 429794 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had thought of that too, but there are some reasons why it will not work, such as if the power is zero, or if you are trying to stun a permanent that is not a creature or planeswalker, etc. It is not working like damage, I think. (I had also made up a "harmless" keyword ability which does affect damage, but it is used on different cards and has a different effect; but, that one is like wither, etc.)
< 1649553643 118545 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :like “If ~ would deal combat damage to a player, you may prevent that damage and <do something else>.”
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< 1649553785 363665 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like I said, I didn't really like that and instead tried to make it a part of the rules (which would allow the card to have more abilities too; otherwise they won't fit).
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< 1649554019 952971 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: you can trigger on "Whenever ~ attacks and isn't blocked", that template exists in several cards, if you're sure you want it to work even if the power is zero. It's not common, because making it deliberately not work when no damage is dealt is usually a better choice for card design. 
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< 1649554059 399060 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Zealot il-Vec is probably a good example
< 1649554095 447957 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Also, I don't hate banding, either.)
< 1649554108 745076 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, although I was not asking about templating, anyways.
< 1649554119 268014 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey, I don't hate banding, I like banding, I'm just saying it's complicated
< 1649554192 502104 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have used banding because there wasn't a simlar but simpler ability printed later that could replace it when I built the deck
< 1649554254 354704 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's nice to be able to have a cheap creature that I can sacrifice (in the non-comprules sense) to save its comrade by taking combat damage from it, and have this on a simple 1/1 for W creature
< 1649554277 706274 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :banding comes with additional rules bagage cover that, but I don't have a 1/1 for W creature that does just that
< 1649554353 901793 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure, if that rules baggage is there then I will use it to my advantage, like I'll use it as a steed bird to carry a soldier to block a flying creature or whatever
< 1649554385 385560 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it was still a mistake to have these in such a complex ability
< 1649554406 64381 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :print steed birds, or creatures that can redirect damage to itself when it would be dealt to their comrades, etc
< 1649554476 426522 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I disagree. I like the banding how it is, except to change the "bands with other" rule slightly, so that a creature with "bands with other [quality]" does not need to itself be [quality] for the ability to work.
< 1649554492 643960 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :they did change the "bands with other" in a comp rules patch
< 1649554496 163877 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think exactly that way
< 1649554502 83742 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah no
< 1649554508 570752 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry, I misunderstood you
< 1649554535 159880 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :they changed it so that "bands with other cats" now doesn't require that the other cat also has "bands with other cat" to be able to band with it 
< 1649554566 135187 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :this effectively made the "bands with other" abilities stronger, but nobody cares because the cards that refer to "bands with other" are so weak and new ones won't be printed
< 1649554597 131610 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"bands with other" probably just shouldn't have existed in first place, but it's too late, and admittedly that was in the early days of magic
< 1649554613 474609 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, that is how they changed it. My own change is a more minor change.
< 1649554640 899400 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the sixth edition rules overhaul had a chance to replace how banding works with something saner, but that chance was missed, and it's too late to change it now
< 1649554684 491525 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :although how excatly it interacts with the damage assignment order could have been specified better when the damage assignment order was new
< 1649554735 842121 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :How I should think that disable should interact with banding is: Rule 702.22d applies; all creatures in the band must attack the same thing. (This mostly useful to absorb damage in case it is blocked, but might also be able to use multi attack modes in one band if opponent controls a permanent that is both a creature and a planeswalker.)
< 1649554800 595070 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I like banding the way it is because I am nobody, I suppose.
< 1649554888 752966 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :as for damage assignment order (unrelated to banding), I assume you heard that unofficial proposal to change the rules so that you are allowed to assign non-lethal damage to more than one creature, all that's required is that all creatures that you assign lethal damage to precede the ones that you assign non-lethal damage to in the damage assignment order. (this is well-formed in that there's always at 
< 1649554894 748215 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :least one valid damage assignment, namely assigning all damage from every combatant to the first creature in the damage assignment order for that creature.)
< 1649554944 239345 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :this also interacts nicely with deathtouch
< 1649555007 778707 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had not heard of that, although it will work. But, I think that it is OK the way that it is (and the way that my "harmless" ability works, I had assumed the existing rules; in this case it is possible to assign lethal damage to a creature without having any effect on that creature).
< 1649555092 675928 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The proposal is OK but I think that it is not worth changing it at this time; if they did that at first then it would be OK, though.
< 1649555109 523595 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(The other option would be to use a damage prevention step like the older rules do.)
< 1649555606 788828 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Although, a damage prevention step would be more complicated to implement with the modern kind of rules; it won't work very well.)
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< 1649569020 690630 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Would inventing a custom set of Magic: the Gathering cards with some ideas based on some of the unusual ideas of esoteric programming languages?
< 1649569344 704440 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The rules of Magic: the Gathering that I do not like are the ones that seem klugy and mismatching, such as double face permanents cannot be turned face down, creatures cannot be attached to anything, and the rule that the legendary supertype has a different meaning (that does not match) if it is a permanent or not. (The contrast is ongoing; there are some similar state-based actions, that would make sense to suppress in this way.)
< 1649569384 164143 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(In some cases they have improved them, such as removing the planeswalker redirection rule which is no good, so it is good that they had removed that rule.)
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< 1649597753 308786 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :tom7's full video for his SIGBOVIK 2022 project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcJSW7Rprio
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< 1649601936 445229 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hm. I hate to tell Andrew, but I think De Bruijn indices might have shown up before 2021.
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< 1649613143 951041 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :this veal dish was too spicy-hot for my taste
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< 1649621501 170457 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that MIME and UTI both have some problem for the identification of file types, which is why I wanted to make up my own one, attempting to fix it. (Although, maybe you also have some ideas for improvement, too.) There will just be the set of types which you can have more than one, and optional parameters (such as code page). For example, "zip:epub" and "text:json" are possible (but can be in any order; "json:text" is same as "tex
< 1649621586 293617 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(You can also more easily handle polyglot files in this way, and may sometimes be able to display unrecognized formats, etc.)
< 1649621773 507715 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Although, maybe you might want to be able to specify contained formats, e.g. "zip<html>:epub", or "ogg<vorbis;theora>", etc. Or maybe some other way; I don't know)
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< 1649630455 308670 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Why is the bell not as loud as it was before, even though the other things are still loud?
< 1649631325 763907 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe you're striking it more softly than usual
< 1649631434 246587 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :No, I mean the bell in the computer; it doesn't have the indication how hard it is struck
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