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00:11:53 <b_jonas> 88 on today's redactle. but I went for speed this time, spamming words.
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19:10:21 <fizzie> Is there a conventional word for a graph that's somewhere between a DAG and a directed tree? A graph with the property that there's N roots (vertices with indegree 0), and for each root the induced subgraph of reachable vertices is a tree? 
19:11:27 <fizzie> Oh, further searching with better keywords suggests it's perhaps called a multitree.
19:15:33 <zzo38> OK, good, now I (and anyone else on here) also know. I did not know, but now I know too.
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19:20:32 <river> ok
19:20:39 <river> I wanted to discuss godels theorem
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19:20:50 <river> http://www.ams.org/notices/201011/rtx101101454p.pdf
19:21:37 <river> let K(x) be the kolmogorov complexity of x. then there exists some L such that "K(x) > L" can neve be proven
19:22:55 <river> this means there is a fundamental complexity barrier for which nothing can be shown to be more complex than
19:24:15 <river> why is this true?
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19:29:45 <int-e> "The proof given by Chaitin is as follows. [...]"
19:30:55 <b_jonas> fizzie: I think that's a directed forest. I don't think I've heard "multitree", though I think there may have been some other fancy word.
19:31:10 <fizzie> No, a forest is a disjoint union of trees.
19:31:19 <b_jonas> oh
19:31:24 <b_jonas> so you want something different from that?
19:31:28 <int-e> this is a forest with sharing
19:31:33 <fizzie> Yeah, that.
19:31:43 <fizzie> Well, that's a very pragmatic way of putting it, I guess.
19:31:47 <b_jonas> hmm
19:31:56 <b_jonas> isn't that just any DAG?
19:32:05 <b_jonas> hmm no
19:32:06 <b_jonas> it's not
19:32:08 <fizzie> No, because a general DAG can have the diamond.
19:32:09 <b_jonas> I don't know then
19:32:11 <int-e> oh
19:32:22 <int-e> yeah "forest with sharing" goes too far... that's indeed a dag.
19:32:38 <int-e> (modulo, maybe, ordering the successors of a node)
19:33:00 <fizzie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multitree is where I got the multitree from, and it sounds a bit subject-matter-specific.
19:33:15 <esolangs> [[@everyone]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=97712&oldid=95116 * Gapples2 * (+757) computational class update
19:33:46 <fizzie> For context, the graph that prompted this was https://zem.fi/tmp/types.png -- a Graphviz rendering of the type relationships of C11 chapter 6.2.5.
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19:34:14 <river> it looks stratified
19:34:44 <river> maybe its a partial order?
19:35:00 <fizzie> The better description (maybe) is the first one on the Wikipedia page, a DAG where there's at most one directed path between any pair of vertices.
19:35:04 <int-e> fizzie: hmm, kind of surprising that that has no diamonds
19:35:27 <fizzie> It's just an artifact of which relationships they explicitly call out.
19:35:32 <fizzie> I think.
19:36:09 <int-e> why is there no arrow from integer types to extended integer types... I guess I don't know what the latter are
19:36:26 <fizzie> That's what I meant by "relationships they explicitly call out".
19:36:44 <fizzie> There would be an arrow if the arrow meant "is a subset of".
19:37:03 <fizzie> But the standard defines "integer types" as "char, signed integer types, and unsigned integer types".
19:37:15 <int-e> yeah, all I'm saying is that this seems to be an accident rather than by design
19:37:16 <fizzie> It could equally well have defined them as "char, standard integer types, and extended integer types".
19:38:55 <fizzie> Well, I think it could be by design. It's like, you start with one strict tree (integer types -> signed | unsigned integer types -> ...), and then you layer in some extra categories "in parallel" (like the standard vs. extended difference), I think a multitree (to call it that) is what you end up with.
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19:39:31 <fizzie> There's a lot more arrows you _could_ draw if you wanted to include all the correct relationships.
19:39:50 <fizzie> There's no path from "object types" to "basic types", for example, even though all basic types are definitely object types.
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21:41:41 <zzo38> I would want some comments about my VM3 specification (so far, it is the draft and some things may be changed; it is not implemented yet). Hopefully, see what other instructions needed added/changed, markup commands, extensions, etc. I like the bitwise operations of MMIX better than those of RISC-V, so I put the ones from MMIX instead (and a few others, including MORTON, SELECT, UNSELECT, SMUX, etc)
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22:43:05 <esolangs> [[BunnyBell Documentation]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=97713&oldid=97711 * PixelatedStarfish * (-172) /* List */
22:48:03 <esolangs> [[BunnyBell Documentation]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=97714&oldid=97713 * PixelatedStarfish * (+862) /* Proof of Turing Completeness */
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23:17:35 <esolangs> [[BunnyBell Documentation]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=97715&oldid=97714 * PixelatedStarfish * (+35) /* Updates */
23:31:50 <zzo38> Is C-INTERCAL capable of using the PEXT instruction of x86?
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