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17:13:34 <esolangs> [[Bbe doc downloadable]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=98094 * PixelatedStarfish * (+35540) Created page with " ''Note that updates and revisions are in progress.'' BunnyBell (also spelled Bunnybell or Bunny Bell) is designed to be the "World's Most Practical Esolang". It was created..."
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18:07:12 <esolangs> [[Toki pi ilo nanpa]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=98096&oldid=98085 * Olus2000 * (+53) Added canonical implementation
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18:54:55 <olus2000> Could someone tell me what are the rules of creating categories on the wiki?
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19:07:00 <int-e> https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Help#Categorization ...I guess there aren't any real guidelines. Personally I think categories should be serious, i.e., don't make joke categories or categories that only apply to a single wiki page (though we do have a few of those... some are recent and just haven't been deleted yet)...
19:07:13 <esolangs> [[BF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=98104&oldid=98097 * Masalt * (+373)
19:07:44 <int-e> The existing categories on https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Categorization are a sort of guideline, maybe.
19:08:15 <esolangs> [[User talk:PythonshellDebugwindow]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=98105&oldid=97971 * Olus2000 * (+498) /* On nonexistent categories */ new section
19:11:11 <olus2000> My problem is that there's no category for the concatenative paradigm. But seeing that it's not well known and my language would probably be the only one in it I probably shouldn't add it?
19:13:52 <esolangs> [[Ooh]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=98106&oldid=97077 * Int-e * (-19) remove non-category
19:15:06 <esolangs> [[Tautologylang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=98107&oldid=95031 * Int-e * (-164) categories (+2022, -non-existing ones)
19:15:25 <olus2000> Ok, I see I triggered something :D
19:16:37 <int-e> yeah, I had a look at the category page looking for ones with only a single entry
19:17:02 <int-e> I'm staying away from "shameful" though... there's been edit warring over that one, including a wiki admin
19:17:39 <int-e> (I'm not a wiki admin) Anyway, concatenative... personally I think that's a valid one
19:17:56 <int-e> It has been suggested before and I don't really know why it didn't happen.
19:18:09 <int-e> (Here on the channel... not on the wiki, it seems)
19:18:53 <int-e> err, no, there is a bit of discussion under "abstract algebraic languages" on the talk page.
19:19:06 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck Assembly Language]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=98108&oldid=83410 * Olus2000 * (+0) /* Ternary variation */
19:20:15 <int-e> Corbin: this (concatenative languages) is your area of interest, maybe you have something to add?
19:22:21 <esolangs> [[Zetta]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=98109&oldid=98004 * Int-e * (-17) remove non-category (maybe use Shameful instead?)
19:22:45 <olus2000> Maybe I'll just invent another concatenative language and there will be more than one candidate? xp
19:23:06 <esolangs> [[BF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=98110&oldid=98104 * Masalt * (+130)
19:24:03 <int-e> Meh. "Parody"... https://esolangs.org/wiki/Entropy_complete
19:26:26 <esolangs> [[Entropy complete]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=98111&oldid=92915 * Int-e * (-19) remove non-category (please discuss new categories on [[Esolang talk:Categorization]])
19:27:49 <olus2000> The talk under "abstract algebraic languages" only barely mentions concatenative languages as having some interesting properties that are the main topic there.
19:28:17 <int-e> Huh, why does special:categories still list ` even though it has no entires nor an associated page? (It was deleted... smells like a Wikimedia infelicity)
19:28:42 <olus2000> I'm surprised though there's no category for tacit programming. That's a way more known concept and I would guess people would make languages with taci programming as one of the main goals.
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19:29:10 <Corbin> olus2000: The main problem is that folks disagree on what counts as tacit.
19:30:16 <Corbin> I still think that it's worthwhile to say that "concatenative" means that there's a homomorphism from syntax to semantics (ala Joy) and that "tacit" is a more restrictive requirement.
19:31:48 <olus2000> Yes, "concatenative" definitely doesn't require the language to be tacit, it just comes naturally for most of them.
19:34:14 <olus2000> Although to say that "tacit" is more restrictive... There can definitely be non-concatenative tacit languages (vide APL), so I don't think it's so obvious.
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19:35:48 <olus2000> I guess it depends on whether by "tacit" you mean "allowing only for point free programming" or just "allowing for point free programming", because the latter can be achieved even in Python.
19:55:51 <Corbin> I'm thinking the former. Also, I think of APLs as concatenative; I think Jelly is concatenative, at least.
20:09:05 <esolangs> [[User:Masalt]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=98112&oldid=98001 * Masalt * (+12) /* Languages */
20:09:20 <esolangs> [[User:Masalt]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=98113&oldid=98112 * Masalt * (-2) /* bad */
20:09:54 <esolangs> [[User:Masalt/soon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=98114&oldid=97954 * Masalt * (-72) /* BF */
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20:11:14 <esolangs> [[BF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=98116&oldid=98110 * Masalt * (-10)
20:11:26 <esolangs> [[BF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=98117&oldid=98116 * Masalt * (+2)
20:14:45 <esolangs> [[Infinite Loop]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=98118 * Masalt * (+27) redirect
20:14:59 <__monty__> Wouldn't that be the difference between a tacit program and a tacit programming language?
20:15:03 <esolangs> [[Infinite Loop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=98119&oldid=98118 * Masalt * (+0) Changed redirect target from [[Infinite Loop]] to [[Infinite loop]]
20:20:40 <b_jonas> __monty__: well you can have languages like Unlambda or Underload or Amicus that only allow pointfree programming style, and mixed ones like haskell where you can write in either pointfree style or named local variables style
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20:21:35 <__monty__> Hence the difference between a program written in a tacit style and a programming language that only allows you to write tacit programs.
20:22:41 <b_jonas> I particularly like GML, which replicates the thing that pure lambda calculus does in a stack-based language: it allows named local variables, and encourages them because the standard library has no primitives at all that help pointfree programming, but of course in either of them you could write your own stack manipulation or higher-order combinator functions and write pointfree programs with variable
20:22:47 <b_jonas> names appearing only in those primitives that you write
20:24:22 <b_jonas> you could define S and K in lambda calculus, and then write a big lambda term that is only compositions of S and K (which are variables bound at the top of the term), and then you get a pointfree program. you could do the analogous thing in GML with, I dunno, Underload primitives or something like that.
20:31:25 <b_jonas> many high-level real world programming languages are like this too. in perl or python or scheme or standard ml, you might find a few helper functions in the standard library, but not nearly enough to start writing pointfree programs. however, they do have a full untyped lambda calculus in them, and if you do define your primitives, after that you can write pointfree programs using them.
20:34:22 <b_jonas> I don't really know what concatenative should cover. is brainfuck concatenative? underload?
20:36:23 <zzo38> I do not know how they should be classified, either.
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