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< 1657247471 353148 :^[!~user@user//x-8473491 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: On Linux, tc lets you add latency, packet loss, etc to a network interface: https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/tc-netem.8.html
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< 1657255699 794577 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: is 12345 still the best password?
< 1657255700 76199 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: not so. i assumed he meant in oisc :)
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< 1657256501 274573 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, RIP Georgia Guidestones
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< 1657268085 591137 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-94.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^[: ok, but I'm not sure I can set the settings to what's realistic for a bad transatlantic connection 
< 1657268166 177964 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-94.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :still, good to know
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< 1657279984 113621 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi channel, can I use you as rubber duck? I have two things that I want to rant about
< 1657280017 14652 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: do you quack when squeezed?
< 1657280017 243342 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: i am superfly johnson. or at least worth looking at
< 1657280036 221062 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: Any relation to Boris Johnson? 
< 1657280036 438120 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: and that too. :) :( i can't help...
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> 1657282502 887375 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cogc14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=99900 5* 03Altermo 5* (+2402) 10Created page with "Cogc (close/open/gotvat/comvar) is a asembeld langege where you need to open every stack and goto every var.  Evrything which suronded by <code>:</code> are eval as python cod..."
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< 1657283614 460692 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was just thinking of some tourist traps that I met when traveling abroad, ones where something is designed to get tourists make mistakes if they miss the local knowledge,
< 1657283629 120491 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and then that reminded me of the beautiful tourist traps that transport right here in Budapest has
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< 1657283763 53178 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the M3 bus going northwest from Kőbánya-Kipest has two adjacent stopsnamed "Népliget M" right now. both the displays on the bus and the sound announcement calls them both "Népliget M". it's a trap trying to make you get off at the first once, since you know you have to get off at Népliget and the bus is at that stop. you have to get off at the
< 1657283763 556406 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :second one. they should just rename the first one to "Planetárium", but no, it's been like this for over a year.
< 1657283900 997472 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the people who designed this clearly know of the problem, because for a few months the speakers even had an announcement at the first station, saying something like "for distance coaches, get off at the next station". and not only is that announcement easy to miss because you hear it kind of late, it's also another level of confusing, because it
< 1657283901 495587 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :made it sound like you want the second stop for the bus station but the first stop to switch to tram 1, which is what the other half of the people get off for at that stop. nope. you actually want the second station in both cases.
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< 1657283952 15994 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :bus 200E has basically the exact same problem at Kőbánya-Kispest: two stops with identical names, you always want the second one, a voice announcement telling you to take the second one in some overly specific case.
< 1657283982 410822 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and then there's the beautiful naming of streets and places, reusing names frequently in ways that confuse you.
< 1657284089 346609 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the south half of the inner city has a Rákóczi tér and a Rákóczi út, both major places located non-incident in a way ideal to get you confused; has a Baross utca and a Baross tér, both major places located non-incident in a way ideal to get you confused;
< 1657284122 936639 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's a Ferenc körút, a Ferenciek Tere, and a Deák Ferenc tér, pairwise non-incident but all on the M3 metro lineé
< 1657284319 550150 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :what's this talk about metro incidents
< 1657284336 10995 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and my favourite is "Corvin", because there's a new mall called "Corvin plaza" next to the Corvin cinema at the crossing of Üllői út with Ferenc körút and József körút, the place that's now called "Corvin negyed", but to us old ones "Corvin" isn't that, it's the small mall building on the south side of Blaha Lujza tér, which no longer uses
< 1657284336 506360 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that name and now has a supermarket in it, resulting in two malls called Corvin on tram line 6.
< 1657284438 625106 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :this resulted in my mother once having given the statement "let's meet at the tram station at Corvin, on the side going towards the Danube", which is doubly ambiguous because not only could it mean either Corvin, tram 6 goes in a C-shaped route intersecting the Danube at both north and south and these being around the middle. I might be slightly
< 1657284439 123292 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :embellishing this story.
< 1657284488 104512 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is typical of my mother by the way. she always gives completely useless navigation instructions, even when she knows the place that she wants to direct to and would found her way there
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< 1657285681 483226 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :then there's Váci út. there's only one in Budapest (don't confuse it with Váci utca though), but it's long and its house numbering is restarted at the boundary of district 13 and district 4, so if you try to go to a street address at Váci utca, you may end up at the entirely wrong place far from your intended destination
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< 1657285792 815828 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there was a business whose homepage gave three different postal addresses for a single location on Váci út, at different pages of the homepage, it wasn't obvious which one was correct, and a post office worker tried to tell me that the one that was in fact correct is an invalid address. and the same business also gave an address in Váci utca for
< 1657285793 314650 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :something else irrelevant, just to confuse you further.
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< 1657287354 591926 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Here's a minor transit annoyance: the 430 bus lists "South Kensington" as its destination on the front, so everyone gets off at South Kensington *station*, even though the bus actually has one more stop later on, closer to the museums.
< 1657287390 867010 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :We've twice been told by disembarking other passengers that "you need to get off, this is the last stop". The first time we even believed that, since it was the first time we were taking that bus there. And the second time, they were very pushy too.
< 1657287407 146690 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :You'd think they'd leave that to the bus driver.
< 1657287412 146787 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh
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< 1657291277 162420 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ok, so I have written a custom csv reader and writer module, and I'm using it at work a lot. Half of the time I'm using it to interact with this commercial program that can export some data as a csv and import it in the same format.
< 1657291328 814489 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Now right now, I access the fields of a row by indexing it with integers, like say r is a row that I read from the csv, and column 5 gives the color of that entry, so I write color = r[5] to get the color, or r[5] = newcolor to change the color before writing a new csv.
< 1657291384 507730 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But the problem is that the column indexes are getting hard to maintain. Some of these tables have over fifty columns (though to be fair the most important ones are near the beginning), and worse still, sometimes the list of columns can change.
< 1657291460 770478 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm careful in my code and verify that the columns are right, I even have a fancy function for this to verify that the columns headers match what I expect. But even so, sometimes I'm working with different versions of a table with the columns slightly differing, so occasionally I have indirect column indexes like r[col1 + 4] where there's some
< 1657291461 227811 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :extra columns between column 10 and 20 that I don't care about and col1 is 21 or 22 depending on how many extra columns there are.
< 1657291484 478683 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So this is getting kind of unmaintainable, and I'm considering to add a better API to my csv module.
< 1657291608 263066 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :There are at least three reasons why the list of columns can change. (1) we sometimes upgrade the commercial program to later versions, I've been using at least four versions by now, and the upgrade can add columns. usually the new columns are at the end, where they don't bother me, but sometimes they're not. (2) some tables have a configurable
< 1657291608 769118 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :number of columns, and the conf'ation differs between different tables that I'm working with. (3) some tables have text columns repeated in each language that the project data is localized to, and for the very first time we're actually making a two-language translated project.
< 1657291681 317738 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, I want to change the API of my module so that the rows aren't represented by pain lists, but by lists blessed to a custom class, and I want to allow my code to give names to columns, and retrieve the field from the row by the symbolic column name. symbolic column names would make my code more readable and less error-prone.
< 1657291752 750589 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :one important question is what the API to get a field by name (that I assigned) should be. one possibility is to have a custom class with fields added, so my code creates a new class per table and adds field descriptors in that. at first this sounds too magical because it creates custom classes at runtime.
< 1657291793 207998 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so this would mean I now access the color like color = r.color to get it, or r.color = newcolor to set it, where earlier in the code I have a statement that names this column "color".
< 1657291870 70031 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the second possibility is to overload bracket indexing, so that r["color"] would access the color. this doesn't require dynamically creating classes, but it's possibly too magical in a different way, because now the bracket can do one of three different things depending on the type of the subscript, because r[5] is plain array indexing, r["color"]
< 1657291870 564742 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :looks up the column name, and r[5:10] is range indexing
< 1657291937 819513 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the third possibility is to avoid magic as much as possible, and add a new method to index the row by name, like r.aget_by_name("color") to get and r.aset_by_name("color", newcolor) to set. but this might become too verbose because there are a lot of column accesses in the code.
< 1657291995 941632 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so O wise rubber duck, what do you suppose I should do?
< 1657292323 643304 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also I have to be careful not to add a thousand extra methods to the API just in case for future situations that I'll probably never encounter
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< 1657292353 602507 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :finding out that the current API is not enough means that I'm heavily tempted with second system effect\
< 1657292361 744943 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm bad at all kinds of temptations
< 1657292362 132348 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: where's the tl;dr of the novel above?
< 1657292362 939919 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: do the characters try to prevent dr. t the women is the worst trilogy ever explain what he meant by man juice i and lauri went to an entropy party and he fnord believed it. (
< 1657292403 360324 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :good response, included both "dr" and something that could be a novel.
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< 1657292689 104622 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: I don't want to hear you talking about "man juice", you're not old enough for that sort of content.
< 1657292689 693233 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: gambit4 had a fnord harness for the two keyboards), and then use set! in my string-processing functions.
< 1657292702 297675 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also orthogonal to those decisions, I have to decide whether my custom row class is implemented as subclassing list, or just having a list field and delegating to it.
< 1657292842 757143 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll have the week-end to ponder this, and develop it on Monday
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> 1657323418 802608 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07AntiLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=99944&oldid=99943 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+19) 10/* Print two strings, with a line break inbetween */ Total