> 1659226784 94141 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BunnyBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101463&oldid=101461 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+74) 10/* Proof of Turing Completeness */ > 1659227160 268230 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BunnyBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101464&oldid=101463 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+2336) 10/* Proof by Translation to bf */ > 1659227288 239372 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BunnyBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101465&oldid=101464 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (-2262) 10/* Proof of Turing Completeness */ < 1659236100 493494 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :They say that last strike (in Magic: the Gathering) is a "flavorful downside". However, there are actually many ways to use it to your advantage (even if first strike and last strike together do not make it strike twice; I do not like the way the existing rule works and I suppose neither does Gottlieb). It isn't purely a downside; it depends on the situation. Even first strike is a downside in some situations too. < 1659236782 411402 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1659236795 343267 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Client Quit < 1659246871 526823 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1659248315 22382 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1659248336 455005 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1659248532 722367 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1659248586 128331 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa QUIT :Client Quit < 1659248605 411038 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1659249099 360930 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1659250408 798727 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1659253948 77519 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1659260125 778997 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1659261473 472192 :Everything!~Everythin@37.115.210.35 JOIN #esolangs * :Everything < 1659262489 474134 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Well, this was a fun exercise: Start from a shape source like https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/shapez-monster-source.png (saturating 4 inputs), turn it into uniform shapes https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/shapez-monster-target.png (saturating 4 outputs if downstream allows) < 1659262588 974252 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ACTION wonders what people would call this (my tentative name is "harvester") < 1659263276 304285 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hah, copying that beast will cost me 12k glue. < 1659263314 867819 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1659263336 394422 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1659263478 360923 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 JOIN #esolangs tech_exorcist :he/him - IT, EN < 1659263523 363347 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1659263594 393628 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa QUIT :Client Quit < 1659263613 394971 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1659263707 326419 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1659264081 974209 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(What I have is actually fairly compact (I think)... but you need 8 four-way cutters and 96 stackers and they have to go somewhere :P https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/shapez-monster-footprint.png ) < 1659264182 613784 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean 16 cutters, woops. > 1659265611 408068 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07H - Q -14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101466&oldid=99077 5* 03Leomok2009 5* (+1) 10 < 1659266094 367271 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a467-ccd6-1-a5c7-3a78-b4f3-da11.fixed6.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1659266992 479097 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1659268373 454856 :sprout!~quassel@147-76-174-82.ftth.glasoperator.nl JOIN #esolangs * :sprout < 1659268692 784022 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1659268692 960226 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1659268712 476232 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1659268722 717190 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 JOIN #esolangs tech_exorcist :he/him - IT, EN < 1659272605 445751 :sprout!~quassel@147-76-174-82.ftth.glasoperator.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1659273515 460878 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 QUIT :Quit: Disconnecting < 1659273680 695688 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 JOIN #esolangs tech_exorcist :he/him - IT, EN < 1659273804 442692 :sprout!~quassel@147-76-174-82.ftth.glasoperator.nl JOIN #esolangs sprout :sprout < 1659275967 846873 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1659275999 724577 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 JOIN #esolangs tech_exorcist :he/him - IT, EN < 1659276377 299295 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1659276917 449101 :sprout!~quassel@147-76-174-82.ftth.glasoperator.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1659277018 471980 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1659278367 117889 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a467-ccd6-1-b02a-9ed4-1567-cdcd.fixed6.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs * :sprout < 1659279084 79678 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1659279096 463400 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1659280880 258690 :Everything!~Everythin@37.115.210.35 QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1659281459 910601 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Delambda14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101467&oldid=101430 5* 03Shadow Kestrel 5* (+2) 10 < 1659281599 630883 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1659281625 25535 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Eso2D14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101468&oldid=100963 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+1246) 10/* Example programs */ 99 bottles of beer > 1659281645 82938 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Eso2D14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101469&oldid=101468 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-478) 10. > 1659281659 259546 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Eso2D14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101470&oldid=101469 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+8) 10/* Resources */ External < 1659281686 771415 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1659281686 789012 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1659281704 455743 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in > 1659281821 975750 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07EsoBASIC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101471&oldid=101442 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+23) 10Category < 1659281832 155575 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1659282087 429556 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1659282328 899814 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1659283742 861523 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1659283858 305501 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1659283953 356884 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1659285322 678767 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Quit: Be well! > 1659286704 616001 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Denver-Augusta-Harrisburg14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=101472 5* 03Qpliu 5* (+12519) 10Created page with "Denver-Augusta-Harrisburg is a concurrent-message-passing programming language. Execution of a Denver-Augusta-Harrisburg program starts with the main thread and the system th..." > 1659286709 855791 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101473&oldid=101459 5* 03Qpliu 5* (+32) 10/* D */ < 1659286767 907673 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1659287350 19912 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1659287372 578557 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1659287392 130638 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1659287644 114805 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa QUIT :Client Quit < 1659287664 257968 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1659288995 492258 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1659290590 280732 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1659290601 918949 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1659290672 729980 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1659290675 769016 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1659290693 118776 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1659290944 64363 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa QUIT :Client Quit < 1659290964 132688 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1659292219 393623 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had started to write a change file for patching SQLite to not use Unicode, and to make some other changes which I think are important but that they will not make, but in some cases changes cannot be made in a way that has future compatibility (such as adding new fields into VFS and virtual table structures). < 1659292248 426167 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wrote a file with the first line and hashes of the blocks to be changed, and then a program can be written which will check that the hash matches; if they do not then it will be an error. < 1659292368 805977 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1659292373 42103 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :This is similar to the "not-forking" that LumoSQL is doing, but that one doesn't check for hashes of individual blocks of code before replacing them. < 1659292621 730126 :companion_cube!~simon@user/companion-cube PRIVMSG #esolangs :why is removing unicode from sqlite important? < 1659292711 122806 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Because I want to use non-Unicode text in SQLite. < 1659292719 472197 :FreeFull!~freefull@user-5-173-30-90.play-internet.pl JOIN #esolangs FreeFull :FreeFull < 1659292796 40110 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyways that is not the only thing to be changed; there are a few other things that I might be able to fix, without modifying the parser or any versioned structures. < 1659292864 485737 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Another thing that cannot be changed is any bit masks, since in future official versions they might add conflicting bit masks. < 1659293392 212063 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 JOIN #esolangs tech_exorcist :he/him - IT, EN < 1659293575 441035 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1659294252 663955 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Non-Unicode should also make it run faster, I should hope, too. However, that will require changing more things, to remove code that is no longer needed, unless the compiler will automatically optimize it but I do not know if it will. < 1659294492 369029 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :They want to use Unicode for everything, but Unicode is no good. < 1659294673 553603 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:8872:2698:a76a:fcfa QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1659295005 233843 :companion_cube!~simon@user/companion-cube PRIVMSG #esolangs :What kind of non Unicode text do you use? the mainframe thing? < 1659295094 724275 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1659295282 191330 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Do you mean EBCDIC? No, but I do want LENGTH, collations, etc to work properly with non-Unicode text, including PC, ISO-8859-1, EUC-JP, and whatever else it might be (including encodings not currently known). < 1659295387 502985 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1659295559 397231 :companion_cube!~simon@user/companion-cube PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's been a long time, is ISO-8859-1 latin-1 ? < 1659295615 387623 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes. < 1659295661 455153 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1659295676 456570 :user3456_!user3456@user/user3456 JOIN #esolangs user3456 :user3456 < 1659295724 110324 :companion_cube!~simon@user/companion-cube PRIVMSG #esolangs :No offense but I think that fight has been lost for 10 years < 1659295779 460275 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Additionally, I will try to make the exposure of use of SQLite record format including usable inside of other data < 1659295800 557893 :user3456_!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :user3456 < 1659295946 749472 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I will continue to use non-Unicode anyways. Unicode-only string types leads to bugs anyways for one thing, assuming something is Unicode text even though it is not necessarily text in any encoding, ignoring the locale and assuming that it is Unicode even though it isn't, displaying text that seems OK but it isn't, Han unification, ambiguous widths, assuming that a "character" is the same as a "code point", etc. < 1659296000 611239 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs SGautam :Siddharth Gautam < 1659296004 990966 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :My "Free Hero Mesh" game engine also exclusively uses non-Unicode. Currently only single-byte encodings are implemented but in future I will intend that multi-byte encodings may also be implemented (e.g. EUC-JP). < 1659296023 634159 :companion_cube!~simon@user/companion-cube PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, if you look at rust, str is always utf8, not just assumed to be < 1659296049 385473 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, and that is a problem, it leads to misuse of those data types. < 1659296055 387856 :companion_cube!~simon@user/companion-cube PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think the distinction between text and raw bytes is clear enough < 1659296062 558808 :companion_cube!~simon@user/companion-cube PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nah, it's only for text < 1659296066 316107 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :File names and environment variables are not necessarily UTF-8, although some programs assume that they are. < 1659296131 392667 :companion_cube!~simon@user/companion-cube PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure, programming languages should handle that better < 1659296138 149044 :companion_cube!~simon@user/companion-cube PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's on them, not on unicode < 1659296151 384367 :companion_cube!~simon@user/companion-cube PRIVMSG #esolangs :(eg OsStr in rust does that well) < 1659296211 68171 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, but some modern programming language fail to make considerations like that. This is also true of libraries, protocols (including D-bus), etc; not only the programming language itself. < 1659296288 156096 :companion_cube!~simon@user/companion-cube PRIVMSG #esolangs :Right < 1659296314 692154 :companion_cube!~simon@user/companion-cube PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think locales are worse though, you don't even have a unified string type beyond "byte array" < 1659296366 807026 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :And then, there is problem of string literals, too (in some programming languages; others are good, though). < 1659296405 856910 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not having a unified string type beyond "byte array" would be an advantage in my opinion, though. < 1659296578 288094 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe I will also need to invent International Components for Non-Unicode. It should include the capability to use many encodings which cannot be converted to/from Unicode too, including TRON encoding, and others. < 1659296613 882468 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Although, it is intention that it can deal with any encoding including Unicode, but does not use Unicode for anything other than dealing with directly Unicode text.) < 1659296633 363395 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(So, maybe the name is not quite accurate, but it is almost accurate) > 1659296677 99036 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BunnyBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101474&oldid=101465 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+36) 10/* Proof of Turing Completeness */ < 1659296685 936710 :companion_cube!~simon@user/companion-cube PRIVMSG #esolangs :How do you deal with text literals in a project where people have various locales? < 1659296873 849757 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It depends on the specific project. In some cases, putting non-ASCII text in separate files will be better, I think. < 1659297002 258088 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1659297334 389117 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BunnyBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101475&oldid=101474 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+76) 10/* Proof by Translation to bf */ > 1659297890 874215 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BunnyBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101476&oldid=101475 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+76) 10/* Proof by Translation to bf */ > 1659298083 729112 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BunnyBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101477&oldid=101476 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+59) 10/* General Palettes */ < 1659298498 731218 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1659298555 733508 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 JOIN #esolangs tech_exorcist :he/him - IT, EN < 1659299230 44449 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1659299503 551746 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Does any UNIX shell have a command to create a unnamed temporary file and then returns the file path in /proc to that file (which will then automatically be deleted once the process terminates or the file descriptor is closed, since there are no other references to it)? < 1659299938 716684 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a467-ccd6-1-b02a-9ed4-1567-cdcd.fixed6.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :isn't that what /tmp is for? < 1659300574 847623 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1659300580 978612 :Church!~aleph@72.80.0.136 JOIN #esolangs Church :Ishmael < 1659300584 376467 :companion_cube!~simon@user/companion-cube PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can you even have nameless files on Linux? < 1659300613 489819 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1659300711 450335 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1659300836 116904 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1659300909 903972 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1659301059 112943 :JAA!~JAA@user/jaa PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, open(2) with O_TMPFILE will create an unnamed inode. < 1659301145 977106 :JAA!~JAA@user/jaa PRIVMSG #esolangs :(But it has to be in a named directory.) < 1659301185 480339 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, but I think bash does not have that capability, as far as I know? < 1659301210 327948 :companion_cube!~simon@user/companion-cube PRIVMSG #esolangs :Fascinating JAA, til < 1659301224 461557 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1659301577 399164 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1659301590 470744 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1659301871 508417 :JAA!~JAA@user/jaa PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: Yeah, I'm not sure there's a reasonable real use case for something like that. If the shell process is the only one that has access to the file (via the open FD), it can't pass the file to any subprocess. The only thing it could do with it is read/write from it directly, including redirections to a subprocess's stdin and stuff like that. But there are other ways to do that, so I'd be surprised if any < 1659301877 517565 :JAA!~JAA@user/jaa PRIVMSG #esolangs :shell out there supported it. < 1659302458 72641 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It can pass the name of the file in /proc to another process though, I would expect. (Of course the other process must have permission to read that directory, though) > 1659303117 664950 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Delambda14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101478&oldid=101467 5* 03Shadow Kestrel 5* (+1612) 10file IO and part of basic canvas < 1659303301 193738 :JAA!~JAA@user/jaa PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, that's possible, but I don't see why any shell would implement it. < 1659303327 146269 :JAA!~JAA@user/jaa PRIVMSG #esolangs :You could surely write your own shell with a mktemp builtin that does that though. < 1659303758 700988 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1659303763 74974 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1659305498 388006 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 QUIT :Quit: Disconnecting < 1659305865 894385 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1659305936 463560 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1659307403 584824 :sebbu!~sebbu@user/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds > 1659308182 675705 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07G arD^EN CorUtY@rD14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=101479 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+6399) 10Created page with "{{wrongtitle|title=G_arD^EN CorUtY@rD}} G_arD^EN CorUtY@rD (from now on referred to as GC) is a 2-dimensional esolang by [[User:BoundedBeans]] that doesn't follow traditional..." > 1659308213 436827 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07G arD^EN CorUtY@rD14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101480&oldid=101479 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+4) 10 > 1659308235 560810 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07G arD^EN CorUtY@rD14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101481&oldid=101480 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+1) 10 > 1659308309 596756 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101482&oldid=101473 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+44) 10 > 1659308432 530903 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07G arD^EN CorUtY@rD14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101483&oldid=101481 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+144) 10 > 1659308507 829088 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:BoundedBeans14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101484&oldid=101225 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (-13) 10 > 1659310565 465337 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0799 bottles of pain14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=101485 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+9912) 10Created page with "99 bottles of pain is an esoteric programming language by [[User:BoundedBeans]] with the syntax based around the output of a common programming problem. To start, each verse..." > 1659310602 505270 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101486&oldid=101482 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+25) 10 > 1659310630 943539 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:BoundedBeans14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=101487&oldid=101484 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (-157) 10