< 1663718562 884128 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1663718591 36992 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-50.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: how about hovering (Star Wars or Dune style)? < 1663718665 479414 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know what is the Star Wars or Dune style. < 1663718805 500430 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :There is contragravity, though. Contragravity Lifter provides ten times Earth's gravity of contragravity lift for 5% of total mass, while Skystone Armor provides Earth's gravity of contragravity lift for 15% of total mass (in addition to providing protection from being damaged). < 1663718877 308778 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :You can also have wings, rockets, warp drive, etc. < 1663718921 929394 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Although warp drive only works if you are at least 75 AU away from a star) < 1663719068 955701 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-50.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, the Star Wars hovering ships have anti-gravity magic that's lifting their whole weight usually. I'm not certain about dune, it's been a long time since I read those books and don't intend to revisit them. < 1663719088 497283 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-50.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(or read the books that I haven't read; it's a series endlessly milked with more and more books) < 1663719190 61537 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1663720424 291844 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It does lift the entire vehicle; this is the percentage of the mass which must be dedicated to contragravity systems. However, contragravity does not allow the vehicle to fly but only counteracts part or all of the planet's gravity. < 1663727950 319635 :FreeFull!~freefull@user-5-173-174-48.play-internet.pl QUIT : > 1663730491 684818 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Kew 5* 10New user account > 1663730603 492528 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 031 5* 10New user account < 1663735034 1454 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Something unrelated is: In a computer program, an object's class cannot change, so the old object must be destroyed and a new one created of a different class. I will need a field in the object to reference the new object from the old one (which has not yet been freed), and perhaps an alternate name; one of the names is null if it hasn't been changed in this way. My question is, what should this name(s) be? < 1663735076 98664 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(This is similar than, but not quite like, how in Magic: the Gathering, an object that moves from one zone to another becomes a new object, but you can still find the new one and the old one based on some criteria.) < 1663735367 205397 :Church!~aleph@72.80.0.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1663737652 918073 :Church!~aleph@pool-141-149-62-108.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN #esolangs Church :Ishmael < 1663739493 789194 :curious-antelope!curious-an@2600:3c01::f03c:93ff:fe0c:9b23 JOIN #esolangs * :curious-antelope < 1663739494 689801 :curious-antelope!curious-an@2600:3c01::f03c:93ff:fe0c:9b23 PART :#esolangs < 1663740605 558182 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: a resettable period 601 interval timer: https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/shapez-p601.png (period 601 because it turns out that the typical accounting interval is 601 ticks) < 1663740632 678674 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I love the CRT < 1663740762 217014 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"typical"... but it's sometimes slower if the game is off screen so rendering is disabled? So odd. < 1663740902 186592 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: ah and I tested your idea of using the other output of the storage for detecting reloads. it works. < 1663741012 245732 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1663741430 44129 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.7.5+deb4 - https://znc.in < 1663741469 95499 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org JOIN #esolangs hooloovoo :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1663741760 527335 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1663742087 826294 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-50.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I see < 1663742858 328936 :smudge-the-cat!smudge-the@2600:3c01::f03c:93ff:fe0c:9b23 JOIN #esolangs * :smudge-the-cat < 1663742859 246894 :smudge-the-cat!smudge-the@2600:3c01::f03c:93ff:fe0c:9b23 PART :#esolangs < 1663743079 989912 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1663743081 759633 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-50.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1663745367 355528 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz… < 1663748198 986876 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1663748639 55900 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org JOIN #esolangs hooloovoo :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1663749812 695304 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1663751266 324793 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1663751826 142208 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1663752481 487913 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1663752509 332996 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: so what are you using this save-load lag detector mechanism for (shapez.io)? < 1663753058 415793 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1663753736 704532 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1663754394 291479 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1663758374 95984 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: the plan is to synchronize with the accounting interval so only 2000 shapes need to be delivered to complete a level < 1663758428 387061 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know whether it'll work. But I want to try. < 1663758474 995671 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: And as mentioned previously, reloading restarts the accounting interval so it's helpful to detect that for this synchronization. < 1663758568 121393 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm building this very slowly though. < 1663758675 446582 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: The best part for the p601 thing is that I got the math correct on the first try, including the extra delay as the reset signal travels around (which takes 4 ticks, so I had to compute 597 modulo 8, 7, 5, and 3.) < 1663758727 406405 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I already had a larger reference clock based on a binary counter) < 1663758813 946641 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(how much larger? about 3.5-4x the area, while having about the same width) < 1663760564 693572 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 JOIN #esolangs tech_exorcist :he/him - IT, EN < 1663760711 933667 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :reloading restarts the interval for the speed check? wow, I didn't know that! < 1663760796 230272 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"including the extra delay as the reset signal travels around" => hehe. I have precise signal control for a Factorio nuclear plant where I account for the signal delay, but it barely matters and there's no way to really fully test if that delay is correct or late a tick < 1663760901 271616 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: the speed check uses the same accounting as the delivery/produced graphs, and those are reset when reloading < 1663762317 949108 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1663762670 963714 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1663764164 483473 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 QUIT :Quit: See you later < 1663764931 953165 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz… < 1663782999 996027 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :With the new Magic: the Gathering stuff in Unfinity (some of which I think is a design mistake, and some other people agree with me), it leads to a question: What is the primary key, by now? < 1663783552 857310 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-116.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: primary key for what? < 1663783681 636083 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :For the Oracle card database < 1663784157 249969 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1663784361 537291 :FreeFull!~freefull@user-5-173-174-48.play-internet.pl JOIN #esolangs FreeFull :FreeFull < 1663785283 952019 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-116.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: how is Unfinity relevant to that? I think the primary key is the numeric Scryfall ID by the way < 1663786249 504794 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1663786334 63431 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1663786413 366777 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1663786763 79812 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CalScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=103414&oldid=43010 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+170) 10Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the CalScript programming language on GitHub. > 1663786804 616625 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CalScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=103415&oldid=103414 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+116) 10Added categories to the page. > 1663787093 781402 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CalScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=103416&oldid=103415 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+14168) 10Added an examples section with a Hello, world! and a one-time cat program as its initial members. < 1663789093 510272 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Scryfall IDs are not official. Normally the name would be used, although I think there are some Attractions that are eternal but may have a different effect even though they have the same name. I suppose it is currently unclear until actual rules are revealed, but I think that it should not be done badly. < 1663789153 204116 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I think also "read ahead", when I saw it announced, I thought that this would require a change to the rules so it is a bit messy, even though the idea otherwise makes sense and seems reasonable. The way that they actually implemented it seems a bit wrong to me, like it could have been designed a bit better than that.) < 1663789176 295940 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Of course "read ahead" isn't Unfinity, but with Unfinity it seems even more messy than that) < 1663790307 252671 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :And, do you know the answer of my question about the computer program that the object's class cannot be changed? > 1663792300 24280 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Briefscript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=103417&oldid=61558 5* 03TJC games 5* (+1) 10ios hehe > 1663796264 784426 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Enterprise14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=103418&oldid=96935 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-61) 10Convert to redirect < 1663797475 97897 :Cale!~cale@cpef48e38ee8583-cm30b7d4b3fc20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1663799071 258594 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1663800101 614318 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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