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< 1664043665 717096 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :> 2000/80 + 15
< 1664043667 530597 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : 40.0
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< 1664043794 826827 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(shapez.io computation: in order to solve a level in 40 seconds with 4 full-speed MAMs at 10x speedup, the maximum latency for switching over to the next piece is 15 seconds... I don't think I can manage that... I'm quite close, but not there.)
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< 1664044022 675238 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :around 17s or 18s is where I am.
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< 1664045110 418813 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :> 2000/120 + 20 -- maybe I should build 6 MAMs
< 1664045112 213021 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : 36.66666666666667
< 1664045200 729444 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I /think/ I can manage that and keep the tick below 16ms; it's under 10 right now)
< 1664045208 481988 :Joao003!~Joao003@187.85.87.1 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Joao003
< 1664045231 434596 :Joao003!~Joao003@187.85.87.1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi
< 1664045293 536281 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(the latency would increase a bit because of the larger distances, and probably a tiny bit of extra routing around the hub)
< 1664045453 745386 :Joao003!~Joao003@187.85.87.1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm from South America, that's why
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< 1664046015 704201 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`relcome Joao003
< 1664046020 658287 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :04Joao003: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.)
< 1664046054 586024 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Joao003: Hi, but I was just completing a thought of my own... you can check the logs (see topic) if you care about context.
< 1664046167 399774 :Joao003!~Joao003@187.85.87.1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why is the text so rainbow
< 1664046543 93115 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`rainwords Hello, cruel world!
< 1664046544 527653 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :08Hello, 09cruel 02world!
< 1664046624 726551 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's a feature :P There's variations of the `welcome command. `relcome has rainbow colors.
< 1664046634 729094 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`elcome fungot
< 1664046635 553779 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: fnord fizzie my keyboard kept generating utf-8 characters and the display is rather limited. but it would be to kill the script after 1/ 10 to work...
< 1664046637 166534 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ungot: elcome o he nternational ub or soteric rogramming anguage esign nd eployment! or ore nformation, heck ut ur iki: . (or he ther ind f soterica, ry #soteric n Fnet r ALnet.)
< 1664046975 887524 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-116.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I think only one or two players managed to build MAMs that level in 40 seconds. it's hard.
< 1664047030 415774 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-116.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :mine takes 120 seconds, and that's to a large amount because it lags the game so much it runs at very low speed
< 1664047950 806350 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: just the prospect of connecting all those outside belts... https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/file/tip/bin/rainwords ...never mind the hub area
< 1664048330 273163 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-116.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: is that what you wanted to link to?
< 1664048378 473436 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-116.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't see the relevance to shapez.io. that looks like some randomized computation or something.
< 1664048425 798929 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-116.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait, why do you use open("/dev/stdin") instead of open(0) (or ideally open(0,closefd=0)) ?
< 1664048475 290358 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-116.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or just sys.stdin, after adding sys to the list of imports like import sys,random;
< 1664048501 850118 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-116.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :heck, even open("/dev/fd/0") is shorter than open("/dev/fd/0")
< 1664048626 932511 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: no, I meant to link to https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/shapez-v5x6-mockup.png
< 1664048634 591363 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and got betrayed by my browser. again.
< 1664048646 320627 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-116.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, that looks much more relevant to shapez
< 1664048668 47724 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-116.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :is this zoomed out so much that some belts are invisible?
< 1664048703 294929 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-116.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it doesn't look like anything is connected to the hub
< 1664048981 360657 :Joao003!~Joao003@187.85.87.1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`relcome lol
< 1664048983 955020 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :07lol: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09EFnet 02or 06DALnet.)
< 1664048989 671449 :Joao003!~Joao003@187.85.87.1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lolololol
< 1664049000 860840 :Joao003!~Joao003@187.85.87.1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just testing
< 1664049018 825317 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: no, all belts are visible... but it's incomplete
< 1664049055 116169 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I've just placed 6 factories to see how that would look.
< 1664049100 875917 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no outside connections, no hub stuff (I preserved some from a 4 factory build but it's not really working as is either)
< 1664049157 214415 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: But the zoom level is chosen carefully so that every tile is exactly 3x3 pixels
< 1664049252 436109 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: if you're wondering about the circles inside the factories... I use those as alignment markers.
< 1664049266 145925 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"circle"... small squares really
< 1664049524 895405 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :re-upload with slightly more compact placement, and without all the old stuff (except for a saved circuit to the right, invisible)
< 1664049734 656704 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Designing for 10x speedup, I can go for a 12 belt delivery and have a simpler hub.
< 1664050360 101637 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And maybe don't worry about bypasses either... https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/shapez-v5x6-minimal-hub.png
< 1664050634 348829 :Joao003!~Joao003@187.85.87.1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`r lol
< 1664050635 494283 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :r? No such file or directory
< 1664050642 669488 :Joao003!~Joao003@187.85.87.1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol just testing
< 1664051423 200252 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I've updated https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/shapez-v5x6-mockup.png once more, but I'll leave it at that for now. There's a lot of work left to do... but I do think it has a good chance of solving levels in 40 1/15 seconds.
< 1664051473 35767 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(but at least the hub area is now actually connected to the factories)
< 1664052096 727093 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess alternatively I could try to design for a 12x speedup and stick to 4 factories. But getting that high in a real game seems rather tedious.
< 1664052231 6436 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And unfortunately I don't think I'll gain enough from anything between 10x and 11.9x. Though I guess that's worth investigating too.
< 1664052474 76496 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Then again 10x speedup is such a nice reference point to use...
< 1664052511 383944 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-116.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: all betlts are visible but they're not there. ok.
< 1664052556 82945 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :gotta start somewhere
< 1664052566 374351 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-116.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure
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< 1664052698 416197 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: the zoom level is the same as this one, btw, https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/shapez-v4-footprint.png (if you look closely you'll see that the v5 factories are a tiny bit more compact. in numbers, the v4 factory had slices makers of width 24, while v5 has width 22)
< 1664052800 562713 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(the factories have full logic and are tested too)
< 1664052921 636364 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Well, unless I messed them up while moving stuff around. That's possible.)
< 1664055845 114236 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a467-ccd6-1-a897-33e1-81f5-b8de.fixed6.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :so this is how it all ends
< 1664057009 898569 :Joao003!~Joao003@187.85.87.1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: what are you playing?
< 1664057136 507186 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shapez.io
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< 1664063345 744229 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-4-116.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sprout: not necessarily. mine ended up much more like a jumbled mess and less efficient and much more laggy than int-e's super-optimized and crazy factories