< 1666916646 206224 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1666916833 261311 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1666921153 719886 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1666921250 397079 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1666921928 767512 :archenoth!~archenoth@2604:3d09:177d:d00:30d3:764f:4327:802a QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1666922131 356358 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-12-222.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I don't know if it has a system locale < 1666922916 50001 :archenoth!~archenoth@S01061c9d72c5220b.cg.shawcable.net JOIN #esolangs Archenoth :archenoth < 1666922980 807853 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-12-222.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey look, python 3.11 is now released. as of a few days ago. < 1666923102 700733 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb2+b1 - https://znc.in < 1666923102 890131 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb2+b1 - https://znc.in < 1666923294 759036 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1666923355 431277 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1666926830 54391 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb2+b1 - https://znc.in < 1666926830 54584 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb2+b1 - https://znc.in < 1666926941 193940 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1666927032 41244 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1666927810 585754 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3+b2 - https://znc.in < 1666927810 707138 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3+b2 - https://znc.in < 1666928984 529634 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1666929072 927629 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1666931803 618172 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1666931983 125175 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1666932045 90096 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1666932917 346403 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-12-222.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok so why is the cpython embed interface and the libcurl interface built around vararg functions? printf and scanf are very old, so using varargs for those is kind of forgivable, but why would someone do that for the central functions of a new C interface? < 1666933052 968237 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-12-222.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :by the way when was O_CREAT invented? 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