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01:55:31 <b_jonas> zzo38: I don't know if it has a system locale
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02:09:40 <b_jonas> hey look, python 3.11 is now released. as of a few days ago.
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04:55:17 <b_jonas> ok so why is the cpython embed interface and the libcurl interface built around vararg functions? printf and scanf are very old, so using varargs for those is kind of forgivable, but why would someone do that for the central functions of a new C interface?
04:57:32 <b_jonas> by the way when was O_CREAT invented? I know it wasn't in the first unices, which is why there's still a creat syscall in the abi, but I wonder if vararg was reasonable then.
04:59:00 <b_jonas> ioctl and fcntl are also clearly very old, based on their syscall number
05:00:48 <b_jonas> whereas newer system interfaces like getsockopt get a more reasonable non-vararg interface (at least in the libc; the underlying syscall has variable number of arguments, but it's not like it's a C vararg, it has a different ABI)
05:01:45 <b_jonas> (ah no, even that one has a fixed number and type of arguments)
05:02:22 <b_jonas> (also even that's only on x86-32 apparently)
05:03:40 <b_jonas> but really, what possesses someone to invent entirely new C-vararg functions, as opposed to just variants of established ones (printf, scanf, strftime)?
05:04:23 <b_jonas> (outside of an esoprogramming context obviously)
05:05:10 <b_jonas> (if you manage to put varargs in a winning IOCCC entry then I'd congratulate you)
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