> 1668215403 277973 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ternary14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=104672&oldid=50898 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+63) 10/* External resources */ Categories < 1668216247 204785 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bonfire Peaks has a free demo on steam... been playing it. As far as I can make out, it has 28 levels, one of which is impossible ;-) (well, I haven't solved it yet) < 1668216582 972253 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, I haven't played it since I got back home, but I think I had 28 solved levels. < 1668216622 416394 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I didn't really get stuck, though, I don't think I even looked at all the reachable levels. < 1668216636 560162 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Which one is impossible? < 1668216643 629573 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I'd just gotten to the water area. < 1668216752 458553 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Crate Expectations, https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/ce.jpg ...I suppose I'll figure it out eventually. < 1668216867 237356 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :does the full game do anything interesting with the decorations, like the car fairly early on? < 1668217846 642061 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure, I don't think I've done much more than you! < 1668217947 508340 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the water < 1668217959 300022 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oops. the demo ends at a bridge near a waterfall < 1668218013 789462 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and probably misses some harder to reach areas before that. (I've identified one overworld puzzle but it just leads to some suspiciously empty blocks) < 1668218113 540749 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :empty blocks... and area, cf. https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/space.jpg < 1668219536 392253 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, I figured it out... easy in retrospect. < 1668221792 446774 :razetime!~quassel@117.193.2.37 JOIN #esolangs * :razetime < 1668223632 785484 :joast!~rick@cpe-98-146-180-36.natnow.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1668224219 442184 :razetime!~quassel@117.193.2.37 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1668225671 947238 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Why was my computer making noise? It seems to be something in the back of the computer. It was making a lot of noise so I cleaned it, and then it was making less noise for a few minutes except some clicking, and now it is making more noise again. The temperature is less than it was before I cleaned it, though. < 1668225713 736847 :razetime!~quassel@117.193.2.37 JOIN #esolangs * :razetime < 1668230893 821983 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1668230939 477687 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1668230969 437919 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1668232763 616299 :Church!~aleph@151.204.145.85 JOIN #esolangs Church :Ishmael < 1668233027 189014 :imode!sid553797@user/imode NICK :decay < 1668234096 259392 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :*.net *.split < 1668234112 670845 :Franciman!~Franciman@mx1.fracta.dev JOIN #esolangs Franciman :Franciman < 1668234119 238577 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6081-6401-1a01-0000-0000-0000-0d8f.res6.spectrum.com JOIN #esolangs * :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1668234119 991092 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6081-6401-1a01-0000-0000-0000-0d8f.res6.spectrum.com CHGHOST ~perlbot :perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot < 1668234121 626538 :^[!~user@user//x-8473491 JOIN #esolangs ^[ :user < 1668239660 716448 :razetime!~quassel@117.193.2.37 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1668240431 697657 :Franciman!~Franciman@mx1.fracta.dev PART #esolangs :WeeChat 3.0 < 1668240767 68633 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1668241510 733868 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1668241569 64985 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1668241590 225239 :razetime!~quassel@117.193.2.37 JOIN #esolangs * :razetime < 1668245671 496021 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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There is no compiler for the language and it has no real purpose. PLE < 1668270219 599270 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1668270758 953349 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1668271172 247843 :sprout!~quassel@dhcp-077-249-168-103.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs sprout :sprout < 1668272287 698435 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1668273274 585473 :joast!~rick@cpe-98-146-180-36.natnow.res.rr.com JOIN #esolangs joast :purple < 1668273746 36690 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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No such file or directory < 1668285908 893989 :sprout!~quassel@dhcp-077-249-168-103.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1668285925 823067 :sprout!~quassel@dhcp-077-249-168-103.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :sprout < 1668287328 98154 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1668291279 839093 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1668291688 900108 :FreeFull!~freefull@user-94-254-171-192.play-internet.pl QUIT : < 1668292463 823058 :earend1!uid568065@user/utoneq JOIN #esolangs zut :utoneq < 1668293736 204767 :tech_exorcist!13203@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 QUIT :Quit: Disconnecting < 1668294996 309860 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1668295762 989827 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Huh, wait a minute. You can do n+p linear codes where n+p is bigger than the number of points in your field? < 1668295937 845585 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :BCH codes over GF(2^m) are linear codes over GF(2) < 1668295985 24027 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or is that wrong? < 1668295996 743747 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nah, that's right < 1668296014 795767 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, so there's certainly an upper bound to the number of parity shards you can generate, right? < 1668296031 335105 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you have a systematic code and your shards are one bit each, then you can only generate one parity shard. < 1668296042 213836 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, replication is a linear code < 1668296084 608089 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's true. I guess I mean if you have more than one data shard. < 1668296101 972243 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's no n+2 code (linear or otherwise) where your shards are single bits. < 1668296166 335615 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :heck, padding with 0s is a linear code. < 1668296177 14006 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it won't do you any good for error detection or correction < 1668296201 775837 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, I mean an erasure code where any subset of n shards will let you recover the data. < 1668296303 226752 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I'm still confused. < 1668296327 490072 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe because I was thinking in terms of fitting a polynomial? < 1668296352 414312 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So, we're talking about nk + 2k, k being the shard size? And we're asking how big k has to be? < 1668296358 946575 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have a linear 3+3 erasure code over GF(4), i.e. a 6x3 matrix where every subset of 3 rows is invertible. < 1668296407 483231 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :For a BCH code you clearly need 2^k >= n+2 here. < 1668296410 265362 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :(And where the first 3 rows are the identity matrix, i.e. it's systematic.) < 1668296473 914895 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, never mind the identity matrix for now. < 1668296484 287200 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Right, that bit isn't critical. < 1668296507 949944 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :The point is that any choice of 3 rows is linearly independent. < 1668296870 526247 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So divorcing this from the field... we can replace the field elements by kxk matrices? So encoding becomes multiplication by a matrix with nx(n+2) block of size kxk? < 1668296957 754606 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not sure whether that view is any help at all. < 1668297241 159757 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, however... the existence of an 1+2 code (trivial as that may be) shows that BCH codes do not tell the full story. < 1668297354 979824 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Do BCH codes give you an n+1 code for any n? < 1668297393 625533 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :They don't do that either. < 1668297433 896527 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Right. < 1668297540 322483 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess "nk + 2k" is bad notation for denoting sharding... maybe a better notation would be (n + 2)k. The point is... we're picking subsets from whole shards. < 1668297547 784210 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/from/of/