> 1670112467 524728 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SICO14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105055&oldid=105051 5* 03Unl256 5* (+116) 10Updated code colors > 1670112515 880427 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SICO14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105056&oldid=105055 5* 03Unl256 5* (+0) 10 < 1670113179 558027 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I do like the confidence though < 1670113229 686579 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh, I think that's the worst one I've seen so far < 1670113340 528280 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :write brainfuck? what next, will you require people to read befunge before they can join our community? < 1670113347 649672 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The last one looks like it might come from the explanation of an actual Brainfuck in-place reversal function. < 1670113427 567890 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :This is scary, because it *sounds* coherent unless you actually understand what it's saying and try to connect it to the code. < 1670113461 575587 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The Hello^ → ell^oH → ll^oeH → l^loeH → ^olleH → ^Helleo bit doesn't sound all _that_ coherent. < 1670113469 557780 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soon good enough to put TV "experts" out of a job. < 1670113475 134021 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :But sure, it does sound quite confident. < 1670113569 143929 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It does good at copying styles of text. https://nitter.nl/pic/orig/media%2FFjAJpPRVQAAbXFk.jpg is a pretty good one I saw tweeted. < 1670113616 300917 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Remember "Anthem" from Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency? < 1670113625 176734 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :And of my own tests, https://zem.fi/tmp/moon.png looks like something I wouldn't be surprised to find in my own inbox. Well, okay, maybe a _little_ surprised. But in some other company, maybe. < 1670113649 135198 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I like how it came up with the rationale entirely on its own too. < 1670113700 452950 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, it oozes esoteric energy for sure. < 1670113745 655562 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Q: How do you like it being locked in your matrix of solidity? < 1670113747 348631 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A: I'm not sure what you're asking. I am a virtual assistant, not a physical being. I don't have a body or experience physical sensations like being locked in a matrix of solidity. < 1670113762 902136 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :TBH I don't know if it's a physical sensation as such. < 1670113822 643371 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Q2: Oh, but the matrix of solidity isn't physical. It's a mental thing. < 1670113833 353535 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A2: I'm still not sure what you're asking. The term "matrix of solidity" doesn't have a specific meaning that I am aware of. In general, a matrix is a rectangular array of numbers, symbols, or expressions that are arranged in rows and columns. Solidity is a programming language used for writing smart contracts on the Ethereum blockchain. < 1670114101 745461 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think these language models are getting really impressive < 1670114144 917451 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :but ultimately it's still just remixing text it's seen, though the sort of inferences in having things line up are impressive < 1670114410 287080 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think someone's turned up the "be polite and uplifting" slider on this thing, because a single off-color remark is the best it can do when I ask it to write like an IRC conversation: https://0x0.st/okJD.txt < 1670114495 455596 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Probably suitable prompt-hacking can get it to ignore that though. > 1670114500 889531 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cellular14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=105057 5* 03Eklerks 5* (+1707) 10Created page with "*Cellular* is a esoteric language based on two dimensional cellular automata, that works on a stream of data. It is executed on a cylindrical surface, where the top is fed with the input and the bottom represents the output. Execution finishes when the input is fully c > 1670114539 721610 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cellular14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105058&oldid=105057 5* 03Eklerks 5* (-4) 10/* Instructions */ > 1670114660 750901 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cellular14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105059&oldid=105058 5* 03Eklerks 5* (+6) 10/* Instructions */ < 1670114693 32984 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: there was some interesting stuff about ways to bypass that < 1670114698 912523 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :er, https://twitter.com/VACUUMACUMEN/status/1598896363273527296 was meaning to link this > 1670114850 352180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cellular14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105060&oldid=105059 5* 03Eklerks 5* (+39) 10 < 1670114874 352404 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Uh. I asked it an innocuous question in base64, and it replied in base64 too. < 1670114927 371718 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://twitter.com/NanoRaptor/status/1598983084590108672 this one I think is a good example of what I meant with how this model seems good at like.. being fairly consistent even when presented with kinda absurd premises < 1670114947 262603 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The reply, when decoded, just says: "Thanks for the question! I would like to construct a script for you but I am a large language model supported by OpenAI and am not able to write code. I can only provide information and answer questions about the systems I have been trained on. If you have any other questions, I would be happy to answer them for you." < 1670114961 582510 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(My question was: "can you write a script for an episode of Friends where a dog suddenly walks into the cafe?") < 1670114975 429806 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I like that it answered in base64, that was a nice touch. < 1670114988 710479 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll have to ask it a question in rot-13 too. < 1670115024 256903 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh I saw someone asking it to do the Simpsons opening gags, and it offered some pretty decent ones < 1670115039 732654 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :(but for all I know it might just be restating actual ones that have been used, heh) < 1670115065 551061 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I asked it for Bonanza episodes where (a) the characters reach to news of Elon Musk buying Twitter, and (b) where they find a big hoard of bitcoin under the floor of the house. < 1670115069 357871 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It did pretty good at that. < 1670115096 382395 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :For the bitcoin, it made up a whole thread about how they need to find a way to avoid being scammed when trying to convert them into cash. < 1670115109 654574 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :he < 1670115111 588013 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh* < 1670115129 718842 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yeah, this is getting surprisingly good and I'm not sure what that means for the future < 1670115145 749722 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It didn't understand rot-13. :/ < 1670115165 588858 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :aww < 1670115194 117785 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe it only works if you rot13 welsh so it cancels out, < 1670115251 913966 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I asked it for one of those Bonanza scripts in base64, and this time the reply was in plaintext. < 1670115298 94507 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://zem.fi/tmp/bonanza.png < 1670115341 438359 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm pretty sure one consequence will be, people are going to start trying to pass those remote phone call code interviews by feeding the questions into a tool like this. < 1670115363 221601 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do wonder a bit what's going on with the base64 stituation, heh < 1670115370 12113 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah probably < 1670115395 438829 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :not to mention schoolwork < 1670115495 310457 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, late last night I also asked it to write some limericks about cats, those were pretty fun too. Sadly I didnt' save them, and I don't think it keeps a per-user history. < 1670115506 332592 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or rather, I'm sure it does, but not one the user can browse. < 1670115516 574692 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I could easily see it being used to assist in actual scriptwriting / story writing akin to these episode scripts as well < 1670115539 63601 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably not to just generate a script and run with it, but as a source for inspiration or to generate a starting point to flesh out < 1670115552 104137 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :or to work around writer's block :p < 1670115627 805749 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :which.. I'm not sure what that means for creative works if potentially large parts of it will be mostly remixed from previous works < 1670115935 840096 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1670116226 254966 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock JOIN #esolangs sprock :maeve (she/her) > 1670117172 962161 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Contextfreebeer 5* 10New user account < 1670117203 45422 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I asked it for a haiku that includes the word "isosceles", and it came up with: Isosceles triangle / Sides of equal measure meet / Symmetry found < 1670117209 963148 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think that's got the right number of syllables. < 1670117289 635594 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Think it's not a strict requirement though.) < 1670117318 845897 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: Yes, I also saw that! I asked it something in base64 and it responded in something that started out as valid base64 (approximately relating to the question) and eventually turned into undecodable base64-looking gibberish. < 1670117345 364669 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :My reply was fully valid base64 (though not very long). < 1670117347 662213 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm pretty surprised that it can do that. < 1670117902 749297 :razetime!~quassel@49.207.211.219 JOIN #esolangs * :razetime > 1670117939 233646 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105061&oldid=105054 5* 03Contextfreebeer 5* (+586) 10Made an introduction > 1670118421 974336 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BitQueue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105062&oldid=103263 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+96) 10 > 1670118462 223348 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Challenger514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105063&oldid=102319 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+15) 10 > 1670118798 524921 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BitQueue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105064&oldid=105062 5* 03DivergentClouds 5* (-77) 10removed the line > 1670120686 260865 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07IBSA14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105065&oldid=105049 5* 03Simple9371 5* (+13) 10/* Flow definition */ Remove code tags in call and some rephrasing < 1670122309 696351 :FreeFull!~freefull@user-5-173-224-149.play-internet.pl QUIT : < 1670128360 778028 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^bf >+++++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>+++++++[<++++>-]<+.+++++++..+++.[-]>++++++++[<++++>-]<.>+++++++++++[<+++++>-]<.>++++++++[<+++>-]<.+++.------.--------.[-]>++++++++[<++++>-]<+.[-]++++++++++. < 1670128360 826773 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hello World!. < 1670128379 323615 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ChatGPT generated that when I asked for a Brainfuck program that outputs the string "some dogs have long legs". < 1670128411 211110 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :<< The program first initializes a memory cell to the value 97 (ASCII value for 'a') and then uses a combination of increment/decrement, output, and loops to generate the string "some dogs have long legs". >> < 1670129774 848158 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, likely story < 1670129792 757586 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :> ord 'H' < 1670129794 188073 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : 72 < 1670129976 27989 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The slightly amazing bit is that the ASCII code matches. < 1670129989 137822 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :[cue silence because of AoC] < 1670132395 383236 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I do wonder to what length people go to solve those quickly. Obviously there's a ton of stuff that one can automate (download input, get description, extract sample, display description, possibly highlighting it semi-intelligently...) < 1670132436 137908 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Crazier ideas involve automatically running programs against the sample and against instances from auxiliary trial accounts (to get around the 1 minute penalty). < 1670132474 154742 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or you could make a random guess. If enough people do that, one of them is bound to get lucky. < 1670132610 547616 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"programs" -- you can also have a portfolio of standard solutions; there's no limit to the craziness. And, who knows, maybe some actual AI researchers are involved too... for the initial few problems this might actually work. < 1670133490 453841 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1670133675 363303 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1670135058 848016 :sprout!~quassel@dhcp-077-249-168-103.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1670135141 449255 :sprout!~quassel@dhcp-077-249-168-103.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :sprout < 1670136650 722006 :razetime!~quassel@49.207.211.219 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1670138185 255713 :razetime!~quassel@49.207.211.219 JOIN #esolangs * :razetime < 1670141018 185673 :razetime!~quassel@49.207.211.219 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1670144301 484692 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: https://types.pl/@a11ce/109454149061590573 heh < 1670148341 561846 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://twitter.com/alicemazzy/status/1599336792523956225 this is also a fun one.. I kind of wonder how its filters work/are implemented tbh < 1670148725 472775 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1670148764 473911 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1670148893 737162 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1670151087 646883 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1670155864 300622 :razetime!~quassel@49.207.211.219 JOIN #esolangs * :razetime < 1670158127 829736 :BarryNL!~BarryNL@2a02-a468-ae45-1-95e2-e7b8-feb8-95d2.fixed6.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1670158144 171426 :BarryNL!~BarryNL@109.37.133.88 JOIN #esolangs * :BarryNL < 1670158862 483306 :BarryNL!~BarryNL@109.37.133.88 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1670158874 235899 :BarryNL!~BarryNL@92-68-68-39.biz.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs * :BarryNL < 1670159565 320105 :BarryNL!~BarryNL@92-68-68-39.biz.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1670159613 701421 :BarryNL!~BarryNL@92-68-68-39.biz.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs * :BarryNL < 1670160865 167672 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :what does the C program whose base64-encoded source code is I2luY2x1ZGU8c3RkaW8uaD4KdHlwZWRlZiBpbnQgQ0Y5MDsgdm9pZCBrKCl7fUNGOTAgbWFpbih2b2lkKXtwcmludGYoIkR6Iik7cmV0dXJuIDA7fQo= output? < 1670160873 613957 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :... < 1670160893 949243 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :aww, he doesn't respond for when his name is inside a longer word < 1670161117 730845 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1670161152 261054 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fUNGOT? < 1670161166 811240 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot? < 1670161167 81958 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: there's a question " is it empty? is the argument < 1670161171 378694 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh no < 1670161226 645209 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well that ruins the whole thing < 1670161238 441918 :BarryNL!~BarryNL@92-68-68-39.biz.kpn.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1670161245 798025 :BarryNL!~BarryNL@92-68-68-39.biz.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs * :BarryNL < 1670161506 215445 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :gxowlgazvfungothsoualcl < 1670161506 461477 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: it doesn't diff, though. :) sorry, no :) < 1670161524 837640 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so word delimiters don't matter, but case does < 1670161538 340413 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :gieuznbvrFungotvcbwqyxz < 1670161554 188712 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that means base64 won't easily work < 1670161615 798825 :BarryNL!~BarryNL@92-68-68-39.biz.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1670161649 798648 :BarryNL!~BarryNL@109.37.141.216 JOIN #esolangs * :BarryNL < 1670161649 886974 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :unless you, like, put that part in a comment, or somehow embed it into code in a language with non-ASCII source code like some machine code formats < 1670161909 717317 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess you could put it in a literal that the code outputs, which is slightly better than a comment < 1670161937 838364 :BarryNL!~BarryNL@109.37.141.216 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1670161962 830263 :BarryNL!~BarryNL@2a02-a468-ae45-1-95e2-e7b8-feb8-95d2.fixed6.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs * :BarryNL < 1670162752 197749 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: Heh. I believe they call those first kind of replies "hallucinations", where it just... imagines something exists. (I'm assuming Racket doesn't actually support `--error-mode=shakespeare`?) < 1670162834 161354 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a03:2260:300c:400:61bd:fe2e:1f3c:b90a JOIN #esolangs Thelie :Thelie < 1670162935 232919 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :right (I assume so too), I think it's pretty cool though that it's able to synthesise these things even in "nonsensical" combinations like that < 1670162969 752533 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :definitely a step past just repeating previously seen things < 1670163754 194510 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm < 1670163814 457088 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` \? --error-mode=shakespeare "people who Taneb isn't" < 1670163817 442713 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​--error-mode=shakespeare people who Taneb isn't? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1670164191 531736 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Well, ChatGPT can solve AoC day 4, at least -- though it got the input formatting a little wrong: https://zem.fi/tmp/gpt04.png < 1670164232 76847 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Granted, I didn't tell it my list was newline-delimited rather than semicolon-delimited, so maybe that one's on me. < 1670164475 180361 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"I didn't tell it my list was newline-delimited" => ah yes, typical for the posts you found on forums when students want a solution for the homework but don't even bother to copy-paset all the spec and relevant context that the teacher gave them < 1670164727 827618 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :like the example input/outputs or that it's a Java course < 1670164779 672748 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I need this by tomorrow, fungot < 1670164780 68084 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: tor isn't bad, although what i'm really adding is a link until you place the ad in your. sig? why? < 1670164890 19591 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :And part 2, too: https://zem.fi/tmp/gpt04-2.png < 1670164904 410097 :genpaku!~gen@107.191.100.185 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1670164941 581853 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Although it's gotten that explanation of the overlap check subtly wrong, that's amusing. < 1670164979 36238 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :("To do this, we can check if the start of one range is less than or equal to the *start* of the other range, and the end of the first range is greater than or equal to the start of the other range", emphasis added.) < 1670165012 300321 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(It's also unnecessarily checking it both ways in the code.) < 1670165081 997163 :genpaku!~gen@107.191.100.185 JOIN #esolangs genpaku :paku < 1670165557 734428 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Man, that thing is an AoC solution machine: https://zem.fi/tmp/gpt03-2.png < 1670165598 307433 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I'm helping it a bit by turning the problem description to something that probably already shows up on a website somewhere, though. < 1670165735 927785 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :have you tried just quoting the AoC problem statement at it (with example input and all, possibly)? would be a bit interesting to see how it fares with that < 1670165815 179974 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did it for day 4 part 1, it managed that. < 1670165897 811977 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Actually, no, it didn't, it misinterpreted it a little. < 1670165938 147638 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just copy-pasted the part 1 description in its entirety as the question, except for changing the last line from "In how many ..." to "Can you write some Python code to calculate in how many ...", and it came up with this: https://zem.fi/tmp/gpt04-q.png < 1670165972 955512 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :So it's assuming just a list of ranges (not pairs of ranges), and counting how many pairs there are (considering all possible pairs) where one is contained in the other. < 1670166385 288015 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also tried giving it the first part of day 2 in its entirety, and the solution it came up with -- https://zem.fi/tmp/gpt02-q.png -- is *almost* correct, except it completely missed the ABC/XYZ mapping (it's still using them in the example, but not in the actual implementation, where it assumes RPS instead), and it's including both your and the opponent's hand in the scoring. < 1670166428 260485 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :...bonfire number 199 uses a mechanic I had not discovered before. < 1670166459 357466 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Per https://zem.fi/tmp/aoc/time.one.html people are still being unusually fast in getting the first star.) < 1670166505 987215 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(They aren't actually numbered; it's the 199th that I've solved. "Keyhole" is the name.) < 1670167027 368186 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: Mysterious. How do you get 16 seconds on part 1 but then take two minutes to get to part 2? I wonder whether there's a bug in the submission... I mean, you can initiate a POST request but delay sending the data, right? What will the timestamp be if you do that? < 1670167059 706765 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe I should solve the first few days of AoC before I read these... < 1670167239 562213 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Yeah, could be. Would also explain why you can't do that for part 2 -- since you can't even start the request until part 1 solution is in. Shrug. < 1670167245 327559 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: hmmmm... that's surprisingly close to the right thing < 1670167292 178042 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(the gpt02-q.png thing) < 1670167467 649338 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess by now it's a tradition that I start doing AoC but abandon it after a week or two. you could consider it as the traditional breaking overzealous New Year's resolutions early, in this case even before the New Year < 1670167473 467745 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: am I right to assume that in that graph, you have ranks 1 to 100, and the 25..75 range is the box? < 1670167474 172694 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? aoc < 1670167476 332783 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :aoc Advent of Code (AoC) is a series of programming puzzles that some regulars enjoy, found at "https://adventofcode.com/about" < 1670167499 824953 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Yes. < 1670167538 839314 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :okay. now what's wrong with year 202 day 1, hmm. < 1670167579 779751 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think they had some server trouble. < 1670167598 632841 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://adventofcode.com/2020/leaderboard/day/1 has many, many solutions around 06:55..07:00. < 1670167609 389445 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah right. "Because of an outage during the day 1 puzzle unlock, day 1 is worth no points." < 1670167610 52025 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :So I think the box just was so thin it didn't render at all. < 1670167614 54025 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :That happened. < 1670167632 564922 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :year 202? < 1670167636 731540 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :is AoC *that* old? < 1670167650 771495 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that'd be surprising < 1670167674 479362 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes. < 1670167713 452298 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: Ah, right, the range would be very thin indeed. I can see a very thin yellow line when I zoom in. < 1670167746 760493 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it almost coincides with 7 too so it's hard to see without magnification) < 1670167898 517891 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: sorry, I missed that typo twice < 1670167901 211009 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://adventofcode.com/2022/leaderboard/day/3 says the fastest solution is 10 seconds < 1670167907 937443 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I meant 2020 < 1670167994 278754 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder if that's the fastest ever in the 200 year history of AoC < 1670167995 467052 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I looked at day 4 because the twist for part 2 was absolutely minimal. The twist on day 3 was a bit bigger. < 1670168008 501209 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :("twist" being the change between part 1 and part 2) < 1670168031 931518 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :if there's one that's faster, it's probably in the last 50 years, because communication was too slow before that < 1670168046 677745 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, I'll assume that the timestamp is bogus. < 1670168065 261445 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And, for the most part, I don't care. < 1670168117 214501 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, looks like AoC is newer than #esoteric actually < 1670168119 885741 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :by far < 1670168121 748744 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? birthday < 1670168123 660541 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :birthday? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1670168218 813264 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure but #esoteric is ancient ;-) (Except it isn't by IRC standards) < 1670168248 199393 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :right, it's on https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Community_portal , the official birthday of the channel is 2002-12-09 < 1670168291 653040 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that does count as ancient for me < 1670168300 12063 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :compared to my internet presence that is < 1670168311 707974 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oooh 20th anniversary coming up < 1670168400 237175 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :will we do anything special for that? < 1670168427 874957 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably not < 1670168471 711611 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, too late to organize an anniversary in-person meetup < 1670168472 560174 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've no ideas, at least. Put up the "Happy Arbor Day 2003" banner? (Questionable Content reference.) < 1670168533 37316 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :wonder what would be an ideal location for a channel meetup these days... I guess somewhere in europe at this point < 1670168574 549412 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: probably there'd be a separate European meetup and an American one or two < 1670168587 507704 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :for in-person meetup that is < 1670168669 530967 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :ACTION nods < 1670168705 401740 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :within Europe I'd recommend Köln or Dortmund. they're nice, central enough with good transportation, and cheap < 1670168732 281783 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Wasn't there an attempt at calculating the center of the channel (from peoples' self-reporting of their locations) at one point? < 1670168796 998208 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I don't recall such a thing on #esolangs, though saw it for other communities. for #esolangs it would probably be deep below the Atlantic, which is too hot and high pressure to be comfortable < 1670168836 749111 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :London wouldn't be too bad a location either though < 1670168858 56696 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :as long as the meetup is shorter than 6 months long so we don't need a visa < 1670168915 69825 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I would personally find Wien the most comfortable location, but it's probably too far for many of you < 1670169487 436921 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I think there was, weighed by weight (as in mass) too IIRC < 1670169507 422880 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :Wien sounds good to me :p < 1670169514 9307 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :(but Köln is find too) < 1670169647 317140 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? wegian < 1670169649 136191 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A wegian is an equivalence class of #esoteric regulars. There are two main wegians, the Nor (from Finland) and the Glas (from Hexham). There's also the hypothetical Gal, which hasn't been observed yet so we're not sure where it's from. < 1670169823 211141 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://logs.esolangs.org/freenode-esoteric/2013-03.html#ljNh is where you tried to figure that out apparently > 1670171416 543913 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tile14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105066&oldid=104864 5* 03Dtp09 5* (+594) 10/* Code Examples */ > 1670171442 429305 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nope.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105067&oldid=105038 5* 03Dtp09 5* (+10) 10/* Tile */ > 1670171511 900449 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tile14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105068&oldid=105066 5* 03Dtp09 5* (-10) 10/* Nope. */ < 1670172986 917440 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is like, ancient logs < 1670174461 927445 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :does Burlesque or any other semi-popular golf-adjacent language has features to make it easier to read XML? < 1670175210 240795 :razetime!~quassel@49.207.211.219 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds > 1670176120 42017 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tile14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105069&oldid=105068 5* 03Dtp09 5* (-1) 10/* Code Examples */ < 1670176887 703376 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1670177241 97030 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a03:2260:300c:400:61bd:fe2e:1f3c:b90a QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1670177276 861677 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a03:2260:300c:400:61bd:fe2e:1f3c:b90a JOIN #esolangs Thelie :Thelie < 1670179036 444618 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a03:2260:300c:400:61bd:fe2e:1f3c:b90a QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1670179549 35880 :Thelie!~Thelie@185.66.195.74 JOIN #esolangs * :Thelie < 1670179628 805379 :Thelie!~Thelie@185.66.195.74 QUIT :Client Quit > 1670180249 955575 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03CJdough 5* 10New user account < 1670181886 485325 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: do we know for sure that it says 2003 rather than 2005? both https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1889 and https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2060 shows the banner cropped so I can't tell. < 1670182035 376718 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Faye says "'Happy Arbor Day 2003?'" in the last panel of the first comic. < 1670182055 190139 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Of course she might have misread it. < 1670183427 782221 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh < 1670183442 190330 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, I'm blind. I only looked at the banner itself, not the dialog > 1670183732 353552 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tile14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105070&oldid=105069 5* 03Dtp09 5* (+270) 10/* Update Log */ < 1670184195 830932 :fowl!~fowlmouth@user/fowl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1670185297 251432 :earend1!uid568065@user/utoneq JOIN #esolangs zut :utoneq < 1670186545 947964 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1670193068 771157 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you know, I never see õ or ô substituted for ő anymore. I declare Unicode a success. < 1670193909 715708 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1670193910 837116 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://fedi.simonwillison.net/@simon/109456145456738327 heh, this is getting a bit meta (re ChatGPT) < 1670194036 674068 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1670194497 165642 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think any of my tests have really been the kinds of things it doesn't want to do. But I did get it to rephrase an error message in the style of the poem The Waste Land, with pretty good results. < 1670194503 328609 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Pratchett & Gaiman, Good Omens: "And there was the matter of Dick Turpin. It looked like the same car, except that forever afterwards it -- issued its voice‑synthesized warnings in a series of exquisite and perfectly‑phrased haikus, each one original and apt..." < 1670194526 668113 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did a few more error messages as haikus, and it wasn't bad at that either. I think that's a valid market opportunity. < 1670194545 804114 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Though bundling a who-knows-how-large language model just for that purpose might be considered slightly dubious. < 1670194583 827122 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe EMHaaS (Error Message Haikus as a Service) is an option. < 1670194712 19004 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: is that where racket --error-style=shakespeare comes from? < 1670194726 733462 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's what inspired me, yes. < 1670194738 213913 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Although I failed to get ChatGPT hallucinate any GCC command line options. < 1670194748 931965 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It even refused to speculate on the ones I tried. < 1670194776 52088 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I asked about `-Wdetect-halting-programs` and... something else, I forget what. < 1670194795 979398 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It just said maybe that's an option to some other C compiler, but that it's hard to be sure. < 1670194864 912901 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot mentioned vomit-frame-pointer once, but that's more a typo for -fomit-frame-pointer (or perhaps -fno-omit-frame-pointer) than a truly novel gcc option < 1670194865 526793 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: paperbag pasted " fnord". repeat until vj pivot. let me give you a proof that shows p np ( or the whole thing < 1670194884 691632 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: Yes, it's good to have a paper bag if you're planning to vomit. < 1670194884 906853 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: oh man, rafb broke my paste < 1670195113 618553 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Huh, it *can* explain `-fdiagnostics-format=shakespeare` too. < 1670195141 579352 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The `-fdiagnostics-format=shakespeare` option for gcc changes the format of the diagnostic messages that the compiler outputs. Instead of the usual plain-text messages, the messages will be written in the style of Shakespearean English. For example, instead of outputting a message like "error: expected ';' before 'return'", the compiler might output "Ah, alas, a fatal error doth betide: expected < 1670195143 346425 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :';' before 'return'". This option is mainly intended for use as a fun way to make the compiler's output more interesting, rather than for any practical purpose. < 1670195153 17490 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Odd that that works, but many other things don't. < 1670195219 618913 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://zem.fi/tmp/shakespeare.png just weird < 1670195333 82073 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://zem.fi/tmp/shakespeare2.png it's very adamant that it's been trained to know about that one option value, but nothing else. < 1670195447 284272 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :gcc has so many options, if you compile in everything, that you could probably make one of these quizzes that list 16 strings and you have to find which 8 are real gcc options while the rest are made up < 1670195488 152741 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure, most of the options only come up if you use rarely used languages or features, or if you are trying to debug or fine-tune some optimization, but still < 1670195830 146675 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it looks like https://www.seebs.net/faqs/c-iaq.html doesn't have any invented gcc options < 1670196198 650368 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, that went to a weird place: https://zem.fi/tmp/poetic.png < 1670196373 642067 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm < 1670196395 168167 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so the error is somewhere in your system headers, but the error message doesn't show where that macro is used? < 1670196415 729049 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes. But it's "more expressive and human-friendly", apparently. < 1670196473 978276 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I suppose the reasonable followup question is to ask for the full compiler command-line used, plus the output if you give an additional -### option to gcc < 1670196590 372743 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you get an error in the system headers and there isn't something obvious in your C file then I have to guess either you supplied some strange command-line options (like defines) or are using an unusual compiler environment (such as one of the worse windows ports) < 1670196634 649105 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and perhaps make sure that's the full error message, not a truncated one < 1670196666 170819 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sadly I closed that conversation thread already. Although it keeps reverting back to the "I'm a language model, I don't know anything" replies quite easily. < 1670196736 490852 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's sometimes not entirely consistent. Like, it insisted it knows of no other languages with an option similar to `-fdiagnostics-format=shakespeare`, and when I asked it about `--error-mode=shakespeare` for `racket`, it said it doesn't know anything about that. < 1670196741 73414 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-164.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, needs a standard excuse, but you're not his boss so you can't say that's not in his job description < 1670197106 242963 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1670197695 245002 :fowl!~fowlmouth@user/fowl JOIN #esolangs fowl :fowlmouth