> 1671840481 606734 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ACCUMULATOR14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105661&oldid=105653 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+131) 10Categories
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< 1671845611 740704 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Heh, I got a day 21 part 2 Burlesque answer that takes two minutes to evaluate the number. :)
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< 1671856812 21697 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmmm interpretation overhead, list-based lookups, repeated evaluation of subtrees... I guess there's ways to make it this slow ;)
< 1671856922 712238 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :How hard is it to prove that day 23 part 2 always terminates, I wonder.
< 1671857263 392107 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(well, assuming it does... which seems more likely than the alternative, but without proof, who knows :) )
< 1671857899 784943 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Uh oh, some of these N-Step Steve levels are pretty tricky.
< 1671860404 142662 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the original?
< 1671861243 381654 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: is it V or v?
< 1671861243 712254 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: or is it, a bit easier to read
< 1671861268 152051 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION struggled for probably 10 minutes to figure that out. Sigh.

< 1671861294 572571 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :OTOH I got away with a wrong solution for part 2.
< 1671861547 269070 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean part 2.
< 1671861663 972638 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The first n-step Steve wasn't exactly easy either, so that's not a surprise.
< 1671861734 823220 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Right.
< 1671861754 491767 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh wait, no, my part 2 solution was actually correct, I just didn't understand why :-P
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< 1671862074 772957 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Let's see if I can get that thing to work.
< 1671862152 862700 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :("it runs in the browser" - but not in my default profile even with a JS exception)
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< 1671862467 973069 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the wormholes are a cute QoL improvement
< 1671862555 532731 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Definitely.
< 1671862568 198932 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Though I'm not sure there'd be a downside of just letting you teleport to any of them directly?
< 1671862597 135942 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm pretty early, though, only 4 kittens and 1 star.
< 1671862689 216315 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh man, it wasn't until you said that that I realized the mysterious spirals turn into wormholes. That's what they're for.
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< 1671870486 123001 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"collect 22 more stars"
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> 1671873360 408477 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fash14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105662&oldid=105620 5* 03TJC games 5* (+0) 10spelling mistake
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< 1671877563 631492 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-148.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`f2c 30
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< 1671877750 344377 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-148.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: it's usually not worth to keyword an ability unless it's one you can have on several cards, either several in one set/block, or several spread throughout blocks by making it evergreen like protection or menace, and that one sounds a niche ability that you won't use on many cards, if at all
< 1671878051 830780 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-148.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :unless you want to refer to it from another ability, such as on another card
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< 1671884000 782255 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: Well, I've rescued enough crew to launch the ship. Stars though... 5 so far. Time for a break.
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< 1671886350 873806 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Yeah, I keep the tree nodes in a list, so every step involves an O(n) scan to find an element in it. And nothing is memoized, so the "find the human" code (which does a full traversal of the current subtree) keeps getting repeated.
< 1671886358 327289 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :So it's at least an O(n^2) operation for each level as it descends towards the human. Although I guess since the size halves each time, that's... still just O(n^2)? Given that n^2 + (n/2)^2 + (n/4)^2 + ... = n^2 * (1 + 1/4 + 1/16 + ...) <= n^2 * 2.
< 1671887294 703057 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I imagine the lookup time doesn't go down. But that doesn't change the result.
< 1671887641 70375 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Right, I guess that just changes the constant from 4/3 to 2.
< 1671887768 366880 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :For part 1 I prepend "." and then `pe` (parse+eval) to do the math, because conveniently Burlesque builtins for + - * / are .+ .- .* ./ respectively.
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< 1671907650 349843 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: You might want to refer to other abilities on other cards, but even without that, if you have many copy effects and text changing effects (especially on the card that has this keyword ability, if something copies it or it copies something else, but also even if not), that is another thing, if making ones that use it
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> 1671913164 531406 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BitQueue14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105663&oldid=105592 5* 03DivergentClouds 5* (+28) 10added turing tarpits category
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< 1671923959 514129 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-148.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? swift
< 1671923962 468627 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :swift? ¯\(°​_o)/¯