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04:20:35 <fizzie> Man, this day 15 part 2 quadtree thing must be the most commented and structured Burlesque program I've written: https://0x0.st/o5l_.txt
04:20:57 <fizzie> Also does part 2 for the actual puzzle input in 0.1s, which is refreshing for a Burlesque solution.
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07:49:34 <int-e> Oooh, readable string constants
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11:21:58 <esolangs> [[6chars]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=105682 * Username1234 * (+901) Created page with "== Introduction ==  '''6chars''' is an esolang with exactly 6 characters. (Count by yourself! '6', 'c', 'h', 'a', 'r', 's'.)  == Commands ==  6 Unicode characters (0x0000 ~ 0xFFFF) has 24 hexadecimal bits, which are 96 binary bits altogether.   This language is based
11:22:36 <esolangs> [[Language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105683&oldid=105654 * Username1234 * (+13) /* Non-alphabetic */
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11:51:29 <esolangs> [[Talk:Cvlemar]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105684&oldid=8199 * Rdococ * (+423) /* Circuit/dataflow paradigm? */ new section
11:52:38 <esolangs> [[Image]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105685&oldid=104006 * Rdococ * (+33) /* Computational Class */
11:54:02 <esolangs> [[Image]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105686&oldid=105685 * Rdococ * (+21) /* Overview */ correct timeline error
11:54:49 <esolangs> [[C()]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105687&oldid=98943 * Rdococ * (-62) 
12:02:22 <esolangs> [[Talk:Loose Circular Brainfuck (LCBF)]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=105688 * Rdococ * (+184) Created page with "== Not Turing-complete == There's a bounded memory size and no way to grow it, pretty sure it's not TC. ~~~~"
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13:33:34 <b_jonas> `ioccclist 2022-11-19, 2022-11-29, 2022-12-18, but no contest announced yet, just some infrastructure and social media nonsense
13:33:36 <HackEso> ioccclist 2022-11-19, 2022-11-29, 2022-12-18, but no contest announced yet, just some infrastructure and social media nonsense: b_jonas rain2 rain1 Taneb
14:32:28 <int-e> cute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2oKediz0lc
14:33:16 <int-e> Did anyone else notice youtube being more aggressive with autoplay or is that just me? (I used to have to disable that once per session, now it's every video)
14:41:09 <b_jonas> hmm, this is a video that says its creator is making an esoteric language called Gottlob https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmYO8oD9Hdw 
14:42:11 <b_jonas> int-e: I don't have to disable it again, but I think it has a bug where it sometimes autoplays one video after a playlist, conditions unclear
14:42:28 <b_jonas> but maybe I just don't pay attention and disable autoplay
14:42:47 <b_jonas> also I noticed that the button to subscribe channel has changed color from red background to black background
14:47:37 <b_jonas> apparently https://www.attoparsec.com/artifacts/gottlob/index.html has more info
14:54:06 <shachaf> int-e: I got back to the thing today.
14:54:20 <shachaf> I have 18 kittens, 3 stars, and 1 cryptid.
14:54:25 <shachaf> Time to find more stars, I guess.
14:54:45 <int-e> there are cryptids?
14:55:48 <shachaf> Apparently!
14:56:11 <int-e> 18+7+0 then
14:56:55 <int-e> Did part 1 have the viewfinder thingy too? I forgot.
14:57:04 <shachaf> I don't think so.
14:57:47 <shachaf> The only cryptid I found was onon sebz onon vf lbh. I don't know whether there are others.
14:58:16 <shachaf> Some of these stars seem clearly impossible.
14:58:26 <int-e> ah, the credits suggest that there are more
14:59:08 <shachaf> I gather there's some way you can open a wormhole that lets you get two cats.
14:59:24 <shachaf> Or maybe there's another way to get two cats, but when you manage to do it it opens the wormhole to save you time later.
14:59:51 <int-e> gurer'f n srngher jurer lbh pna jnyx vagb n jnyy be n qrnqyl fcnpr sebz n arvtuobevat ebbz, juvpu V guvax rkcynvaf n ybg bs gur fgnef
15:00:32 <shachaf> Ah, I noticed that.
15:01:26 <int-e> but anyway, it does look hard
15:01:57 <shachaf> I also found the nice try sign, maybe that's related to the thing you just said.
15:02:05 <shachaf> Because it seems tricky any other way.
15:03:20 <b_jonas> uh, I'm having trouble finding an esolang thing. what was that old programming language, probably not completely realized, where source code is written as a tree drawn in two-dimensions where some things are composed next to each other and some things under each other, and that is *not* by Ken Iverson?
15:03:23 <int-e> of the kittens, this part gave me the most trouble: gurer'f n srngher jurer lbh pna jnyx vagb n jnyy be n qrnqyl fcnpr sebz n arvtuobevat ebbz, juvpu V guvax rkcynvaf n ybg bs gur fgnef
15:03:27 <int-e> argh
15:03:32 <int-e> https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/steve.png
15:03:51 <int-e> (the bottom left part)
15:04:01 <b_jonas> Plankalkül apparently. why don't we have an article about that on the wiki?
15:05:56 <shachaf> Yes, I was stuck at that one for a while.
15:06:37 <shachaf> I kept thinking gur guvat unq gb tb yrsg.
15:09:19 <int-e> yeah, and it almost works too
15:09:58 <shachaf> Of course.
15:11:03 <esolangs> [[Gottlob]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=105689 * B jonas * (+779) Created page with "'''Gottlob''' is an imperative programming language with unusual syntax created by Matthew Dockrey in 2019.  It has unusual syntax, based on Gottlob Frege's logic notation from his 1879 book Begriffsschrift: A formula language, modeled on that of arithmetic, of pure thou
15:11:44 <FireFly> b_jonas: oh interesting, I thought Plankalkül was relatively straightforward but I guess not really
15:12:04 <esolangs> [[Language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105690&oldid=105683 * B jonas * (+14) Gottlob
15:14:18 <b_jonas> FireFly: I have no idea whether it's straightforward or not. the similarity with APL is striking: they're both originally intended as mathematical notation for easier formal writing, without having to run them on computers, and had planar source code syntax, but Plankalkül is *much* older
15:15:18 <b_jonas> APL lost its planar syntax when it got adapated to a programming language for computers, though it gained backspaced combined characters instead so that it can be input and output on a Selectric with custom type element 
15:16:43 <FireFly> overstriking is such an elegant thing that's just lost to time now, heh
15:19:44 <shachaf> int-e: I think the star in your screenshot is the one that leads to the cryptid I found.
15:19:50 <b_jonas> FireFly: I think it lost because it didn't work well with punch cards, Intercal notwithstanding. being able to edit your program as a stack of cards, as opposed to having to glue tape ticker tape together, is very useful
15:20:36 <b_jonas> but of course digraphs, as in sequences of two characters with a unique meaning, are alive and well in modern languages
15:21:04 <b_jonas> because you want more things in a language than keys on a keyboard or type elements in a printer
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15:21:39 <b_jonas> (well, two times type elements in a printer, since each one has a base character and a shifted character)
15:25:16 <FireFly> true, I guess boolean operators would be the prime example of digraphs surviving in modern programming languages
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15:25:50 <FireFly> and it kind of remains in general in text in the form of combining characters and such
15:30:15 <b_jonas> of course backspaced combinations are still more practical than the traditional form of mathematical manuscripts, where you type out the letters and digits and other symbols that you have on the typewriter, then use a pen to write the symbols that you don't have on the keyboard and underlines and double underlines to mark bold and italic letters
15:32:43 <b_jonas> wait.. the "Plan" in the name of Plankalkül isn't because the source code is planar?
15:32:46 <b_jonas> huh
15:32:58 <b_jonas> I guess that would have made no sense historically
15:34:27 <b_jonas> btw, the wiki main page says "complete list of languages". should we remove "complete" because it's a blatant lie and we shouldn't have such a lie on the main page?
15:34:37 <shachaf> Also, https://slbkbs.org/tmp/su/2022-12-26-173240_1316x1313.png seems so close, but I don't think I can get them both out from this setup?
15:40:15 <int-e> I don't think so either
15:41:24 <shachaf> Hmm, I guess it's impossible even if you had unlimited steps.
15:41:42 <shachaf> I was really hoping this was how you get two cats in the main area.
15:41:56 <shachaf> Maybe it's behind a star or something.
15:43:15 <int-e> I'm currently trying to collect a global map... a bit tedious
15:43:55 <int-e> well, not trying so much as actually doing it
15:44:18 <shachaf> Global map?
15:45:16 <b_jonas> the dictionary kind of map or the collect kind of map?
15:48:03 <int-e> https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/steve-map-small.png (spoiler? I don't know)
15:49:33 <int-e> I also think I'll slowly replace those by actual screenshots rather than the viewfinder ones
15:50:05 <shachaf> Oh, fancy.
15:50:43 <int-e> but it already looks helpful because one can see how the paths match up
15:51:09 <shachaf> It would be nice if there was a built-in map that did that.
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16:36:21 <int-e> shachaf: the game also looks much bigger this way :P
16:37:59 <shachaf> Have you figured out how to get two cats in the main area yet?
16:38:02 <shachaf> I haven't.
16:38:20 <shachaf> I should probably just get more stars and see if that makes it all work.
16:39:24 <int-e> No I have not.
16:42:45 <int-e> It seems obvious where they will come from though... but the corresponding wormholes aren't active.
16:42:53 <int-e> emphasis on "seems", of course.
16:43:31 <int-e> I don't think I'll get any more stars today... it'll take long enough to just revisit every room I've seen before
16:44:24 <shachaf> My vague guess is that those wormholes are a shortcut that opens up after you get them the "proper" way.
16:44:30 <int-e> with the extra step of taking a screenshot
16:44:34 <shachaf> Which is why I was looking west of that room.
16:47:20 <shachaf> I got a couple more, 18+5+1 now.
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17:22:46 <int-e> hmpf, I forgot a trick already
17:26:53 <int-e> Ah, found it again.
17:33:31 <esolangs> [[BitQueue]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105691&oldid=105663 * DivergentClouds * (+74) clarified matching parentheses
17:35:03 <int-e> And I "accidentally" got two more stars.
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18:15:22 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create  * Gon-CJ *  New user account
18:24:09 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105692&oldid=105655 * Gon-CJ * (+202) /* Introductions */
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18:34:35 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create  * Aartaka *  New user account
18:45:06 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105693&oldid=105692 * Aartaka * (+235) /* Introductions */
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18:58:05 <int-e> shachaf: Oh well, the map is all nice and colorful now and I also found Baba. 18+10+1
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19:06:27 <int-e> shachaf: Oh there is at least one open warp gate that leads to a room that I've never seen. (In 9,12, leading to 9,11 according to the viewfinder).
19:46:39 <shachaf> 9,12? I don't think I've been there, I don't see anywhere that would go to it.
19:47:14 <shachaf> Which map is nice and colorful?
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20:24:07 <int-e> shachaf: this one https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/steve-map-small.png (re-uploaded)
20:24:23 <int-e> it's no longer all green.
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21:25:13 <b_jonas> fungot, how many footages are there in a mileage? and do you call them footages or feetage?
21:25:13 <fungot> b_jonas: then a list of instructions for another task, that you read sicp?!" talk.
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21:27:33 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create  * Alidonis *  New user account
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21:33:47 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105695&oldid=105693 * Alidonis * (+265) Introduced myself !
21:34:49 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105696&oldid=105695 * Alidonis * (-2) Fixed a typo on my introduction, sorry!
21:38:03 <esolangs> [[User:Alidonis]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=105697 * Alidonis * (+187) Created page with "Hello ! i'm an (joke) esolang maker that barely usable esolang as fun projects. i'll update this page as i create them so you can see and comment on my work.  Created esolangs : None yet!"
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22:09:06 <esolangs> [[User:Alidonis/sandbox]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=105698 * Alidonis * (+2320) Created page with "This is a sandbox page. It is divided into sections with different esolangs i may or may not add in the end.  == Alidonis' Instructions ==  Instruction is a BrainFuck-Inspired language that has to be separated by newlines, altough it has a vast ammount of
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22:12:52 <esolangs> [[User:Alidonis/sandbox]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105700&oldid=105698 * Alidonis * (-2212) moving instructions to a subpage
22:13:18 <esolangs> [[User:Alidonis/sandbox/instructions]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=105701 * Alidonis * (+2180) Created page with "Instruction is a BrainFuck-Inspired language that has to be separated by newlines, altough it has a vast ammount of variations away from BrainFuck. it has various quality of life features such as not having to increment cells to do anything, 
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22:16:34 <esolangs> [[User:Alidonis]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105704&oldid=105703 * Alidonis * (+1) 
22:17:13 <esolangs> [[User:Alidonis]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105705&oldid=105704 * Alidonis * (-53) Final edit for now i hope.
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22:34:16 <esolangs> [[User:Rdococ]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105715&oldid=104007 * Rdococ * (+68) /* Refurbished languages */
22:35:35 <esolangs> [[!Tautologos]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105716&oldid=103979 * Rdococ * (+72) 
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23:19:38 <esolangs> [[Rule]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105722&oldid=105721 * Rdococ * (+1714) Simplify, add IP, esoterify and conjecture about computational class
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