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00:11:54 <fungot> b_jonas: and if you put a cond inside of,,, and opcodes can be replaced with any positive integer except 0.
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07:27:20 <int-e> 18+25+11, and I still don't have the "nice try" star. I got the one above that though which is more important.
07:29:52 <shachaf> Hmm, 18+22+12
07:30:21 <shachaf> There are only two stars on the map.
07:30:34 <int-e> hmm
07:31:30 <int-e> I also have two stars left. That's odd.
07:33:08 <int-e> I suspect something is wrong in the accounting for the bottom right area.
07:33:25 <shachaf> Yes. If you quit and resume, does your star number go down?
07:34:09 <int-e> Nope.
07:34:34 <int-e> That happened before though.
07:34:50 <int-e> https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/steve.png is what my map looks like, FWIW
07:35:07 <int-e> shachaf: maybe check that area to see whether the stars are actually gone?
07:35:38 <int-e> Or maybe go through it again, hmm.
07:35:43 <shachaf> Oh, you got the star in the meta area.
07:36:04 <shachaf> I think the duplicated star might have thrown off the accounting? Not really sure.
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07:37:09 <int-e> shachaf: resetting a star down there deducts a star from your total.
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07:38:56 <int-e> So that's an easy way to lose up to 3 stars of progress.
07:39:24 <int-e> but it also puts the star on the map, hmm
07:39:31 <shachaf> Yep, so if I collect the duplicated star, it goes up by 2, then I reset and it goes down by 1, and then I collect a single star to proceed and it goes up by 1.
07:39:59 <shachaf> So that's a net gain of 1. But then if I quit and resume it goes back down.
07:40:46 <shachaf> Which seems like a bug, unless I'm missing something tricky.
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07:42:24 <int-e> Ah. Hmm. I have an idea where I /may/ have gotten extra stars.
07:43:08 <int-e> But I don't know... can you share your map maybe? There's one thing I'd like to check
07:43:45 <int-e> (the overview)
07:43:58 <shachaf> https://slbkbs.org/tmp/su/steve.png
07:44:59 <int-e> Yeah, so I know of one star that you're missing that's not on your map.
07:46:33 <shachaf> Makes sense.
07:47:06 <shachaf> Doesn't explain by itself how you have 25 and I have 22, but maybe there are multiple such stars.
07:47:32 <int-e> Yeah I don't have notes of where the stars were...
07:48:26 <shachaf> I wish it kept track of these things for you, especially for the cryptids.
07:48:32 <shachaf> So many places to search.
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07:51:07 <int-e> Oh wait, I know of two stars actually.
07:51:45 <int-e> We seem to have totally different cryptids too.
07:51:50 <int-e> That's funny.
07:52:52 <shachaf> I kind of wish I'd kept notes about where I found each one.
07:52:59 <int-e> FWIW, I think the meta is kind of like a hotel or prison for cryptids.
07:53:56 <int-e> so you have all those rooms with cryptids in them attached to the main hall/corridor.
07:54:44 <int-e> Anyway, I'll assume the difference in stars is legit.
07:54:56 <shachaf> Right, I sort of figured something like that.
07:55:00 <shachaf> But there is a star there.
07:55:09 <shachaf> Anyway, I'll get back to it later.
07:55:19 <int-e> There's also a door there :P
07:58:13 <shachaf> But I assume you haven't opened that door, whereas you have gotten the star.
08:11:33 <int-e> Right.
08:11:45 <int-e> Okay, bottom left done, one more cryptid.
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09:42:57 <int-e> 18+25+16 and it looks like there are quite a few cryptids left at this point... I have 7 missing rooms.
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09:47:06 <shachaf> How do you know how many are missing?
09:52:07 <int-e> I have missing outlines.
09:52:36 <int-e> So 7 is a lower bound.
09:52:49 <int-e> I've updated https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/steve.png
09:53:04 <int-e> I saw that you have been to one of those rooms.
09:54:09 <int-e> Hmm, did I count correctly? I guess I counted the hole at 12,12
09:54:45 <int-e> So it's 6, not 7.
09:56:21 <int-e> Anyway, I still don't get the "nice try" star. And I think the other one may be literally impossible... there's a tradition for having an impossible star IIRC.
09:56:47 <shachaf> Hmm, you can increase your number of stars arbitrarily by collecting duplicated stars and resetting (but when you quit and continue it goes back down).
09:56:58 <shachaf> I assume this is a bug but I used it to look past the star door.
09:57:15 <shachaf> There was a star we thought was impossible for a while, but turned out to be possible, right?
09:57:45 <int-e> hmm, maybe
09:58:27 <int-e> In any case, it does look impossible to me right now.
09:59:04 <int-e> While the nice try star looks almost possible.
09:59:17 <int-e> So there's a difference :P
09:59:44 <shachaf> Which is the impossible one?
09:59:49 <shachaf> The one in the bottom right of your screenshot?
09:59:51 <int-e> 14,19
10:00:23 <shachaf> Yes, I don't have a story for what getting that one would look like either.
10:05:16 <int-e> I did forget a lot from part 1 though... otherwise I'd have found the second 7,20 star sooner.
10:06:37 <int-e> (V sbetbg gung lbh pna npgvingr frireny cvax syntf ng bapr)
10:07:07 <int-e> Which was heavily used in part 1... much less so this time.
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10:09:51 <shachaf> Hmm, that's true.
10:11:13 <shachaf> I'm pretty confused about where all the cryptids I'm missing could be hiding.
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10:12:03 <int-e> possible spoiler: Qvq lbh ernq nyy gur fvtaf?
10:13:11 <shachaf> I did tb guebhtu gjb jbezubyrf ng bapr rireljurer V svtherq bhg ubj gb.
10:13:15 <shachaf> If that's what you mean.
10:13:39 <shachaf> I'm not sure you can even get to the meta place without that?
10:14:11 <int-e> True
10:14:32 <int-e> Maybe there's more of those places than you think.
10:14:36 <shachaf> There are some screens where that just seems clearly impossible.
10:14:49 <shachaf> I guess this is one of those places where a map would be helpful.
10:14:56 <int-e> (Do you want a number? I've actually kept track.)
10:15:57 <shachaf> I haven't, so I'm not sure a number would help much.
10:16:04 <shachaf> But sure.
10:16:17 <int-e> 11 so far.
10:16:22 <int-e> I suspect I'm missing a couple.
10:18:43 <int-e> There's also a few places jvgu guerr jbezubyrf... V jbaqre...
10:19:59 <shachaf> Yes, I wondered about that too.
10:20:03 <shachaf> I could only do one pair.
10:20:20 <shachaf> I guess in theory you could have 4 outcomes there.
10:20:33 <int-e> Anyway. I think that's enough progress for today, for me.
10:20:49 <int-e> four... oh yes indeed.
10:20:59 <int-e> I didn't even think of that.
10:23:44 <shachaf> I did just get another idea for a thing I thought wasn't possible.
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10:30:41 <shachaf> Hmm, no, I think my idea doesn't work.
10:31:14 <shachaf> (The goal is to trg gjb pngf bhg bs 14,17 which I now guess must be possible.)
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10:34:59 <shachaf> Oh, wait, now I figured it out.
10:35:06 <shachaf> It's even a trick that's used elsewhere.
10:35:11 <int-e> :)
10:35:37 <int-e> that one took me a while
10:38:06 <shachaf> So that gets me Issac.
10:38:18 <int-e> yay
10:38:49 <shachaf> I don't even get a wormhole for this?
10:39:14 <int-e> Hmm, in the meta?
10:39:39 <int-e> I don't know when you get new wormholes there.
10:39:40 <shachaf> I just mean to avoid having to do that maneuver again.
10:39:47 <int-e> Ah
10:39:47 <shachaf> In 14,17.
10:39:55 <shachaf> I guess it's not really useful for anything else.
10:39:57 <int-e> There's a pretty short solution for that.
10:40:07 <int-e> And also that.
10:41:36 <shachaf> OK, I also don't know how to do 10,16. I guess it must have to do with the left side of 11,15.
10:41:38 <int-e> something like 20 moves starting from the flag.
10:42:11 <shachaf> Oh, interesting.
10:42:52 <shachaf> So there is.
10:43:46 <shachaf> I did it the pointlessly hard way, gvzvat gur png gheavat tenl va gur evtug cynpr nf nabgure bar fgrccrq bagb gur qhcyvpngbe.
10:43:54 <shachaf> I mean, it's not actually that hard, just a bit annoying.
10:45:10 <shachaf> Hmm... You can also double down in 13,17 when you do this. But I don't *think* that accomplishes anything?
10:50:35 <int-e> one cryptid is a good haul, isn't it ;-)
10:53:15 <shachaf> I don't see any way to get a cryptid out of 14,20
10:54:21 <int-e> Me neither. There's a bunch of rooms like this. Bayl bar pelcgvq tbrf va, naq gurer'f abguvat gung qhcyvpngrf gurz.
10:54:37 <int-e> (as far as my understanding of the game goes)
10:55:53 <shachaf> I guess pelcgvq means png.
10:56:01 <shachaf> Hey, I like png.
10:56:11 <int-e> It does.
10:56:19 <int-e> Of course it's an alien png.
10:56:36 <int-e> (at least to my mind)
10:57:00 <shachaf> One thing I'm not sure about is the exit to the left on 11,15 (the room with the door that gets unlocked by stars).
10:57:21 <shachaf> Maybe I already said that.
10:58:30 <int-e> you did, I chose not to comment
10:59:25 <shachaf> Right. Seems like a good choice.
11:00:02 <shachaf> I'll just wait until I'm legitimately at 24 stars.
11:02:32 <shachaf> It's obviously something.
11:09:07 <shachaf> 4,21 seems really close to a second solution.
11:11:09 <shachaf> <int-e> the wormholes are a cute QoL improvement
11:11:22 <shachaf> The good old days.
11:12:27 <int-e> they are!
11:12:30 <int-e> :)
11:13:25 <int-e> it's not the wormholes' fault that we're chasing cryptids
11:13:38 <shachaf> True enough.
11:17:51 <shachaf> Good thing the viewfinder tells you where every wormhole goes, so you don't need to write it down if you forget.
11:55:36 <shachaf> Oh, interesting, apparently taking notes about cryptids pays off.
11:56:59 <shachaf> Presumably you already noticed the thing I just noticed.
12:00:00 <shachaf> This suggests that some of these places indeed don't have cryptids.
12:00:37 <shachaf> I wish I had better notes.
12:01:32 <shachaf> It also suggests how to get the meta star maybe.
12:19:34 <shachaf> Whew. OK. That was a sneaky place for a cryptid.
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15:18:42 <shachaf> Well, I used a duplicated star to get the meta star which put me over the threshold, retroactively legitimizing my duplicated star.
15:19:18 <shachaf> I can't believe I fell for that "deactivated players can read signs" the first time I looked at that room.
15:19:33 <shachaf> So I'm at 18+24+14
15:31:20 <b_jonas> shachaf: this is still N-step Steve, right? it's starting to sound like Baba is you
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15:54:50 <shachaf> Hmm, Baba is present in this game.
15:54:58 <shachaf> Though not in a very active role.
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16:39:56 <b_jonas> um
16:41:04 <b_jonas> so Baba is technically the main character of Baba is you, but she's not a character with lots of personality or unique superpowers so he isn't really what makes Baba is you unique
16:41:23 <b_jonas> the important characters are the text
16:42:32 <b_jonas> or, if you want to choose one, it's "IS"
17:12:42 <int-e> WHO is YOU?
17:14:29 <int-e> . o O ( BABA is JEOPARDY )
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