04:12:04 One way to make a bit interleaving in a JavaScript code is: (x=>parseInt(x.toString(2),4)) (I don't know what is the way to do it with the big integer type, though) 05:50:21 -!- slavfox has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in). 05:53:54 -!- slavfox has joined. 06:16:02 Are there any game theory analyses of Ahyoheek/Ayoheek? 06:49:07 I don't know what is "Ahyoheek/Ayoheek" 07:06:56 https://archive.guildofarchivists.org/wiki/Ahyoheek (it's pen beats page beats beetle, not sure why that's unclear on here) 07:07:21 Sort of a rock/paper/scissors game except 2-5 player, and the goal is to win with one object 3 times 07:09:31 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr7Mwrb5vAE 07:24:16 -!- moony2 has joined. 07:25:19 -!- Bowserinator has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 07:25:19 -!- Bowserinator_ has joined. 07:26:27 -!- moony has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 07:26:27 -!- moony2 has changed nick to moony. 07:55:21 OK 08:59:02 Suppose my opponent has two Pens. If they throw Pen and I throw Book, they win. So I should throw either Beetle or Pen, right? Random? Or should I still have a chance of throwing Book in case they try to go Beetle to catch me throwing Pen? 08:59:53 And then in larger games there can be a prisoner's dilemma and tragedy of the commons, where people should block someone who might be about to win, but individuals might choose to throw whatever would beat that 09:03:18 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:56:13 odd that there aren't 5 objects :-P 10:04:22 -!- wib_jonas has joined. 10:04:41 ``` datei # is it just me, or are you in the future too, HackEso? 10:04:43 2023-01-03 10:04:42.369 +0000 UTC January 3 Tuesday 2023-W01-2 10:04:55 2023. crazy. 10:35:32 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 10:35:53 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 10:38:19 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 10:39:17 Oh right, it's that time of the year again where I want to send an email from my gmail account and it has automatically re-re-re-re-re-enabled the setting that disallows so-called less secure apps from sending email. 10:41:17 Err what now. "This setting is no longer available. Learn more" 10:42:01 I have no words. 10:44:19 -!- __monty__ has joined. 10:46:17 Whatever. It took me 7 months to notice the change. I guess I just won't bother. 10:52:38 I've never really understood why (a) "app passwords" are only available for accounts with two-factor auth turned on (as opposed to being an option for any account, instead of providing your actual password), and (b) why you can't set the same limited scopes for them that you can for actual OAuth clients. 10:52:40 Although I guess the most likely reason for (b) is that choosing the scopes is something only developers are expected to understand. 10:54:35 Oh right, "app passwords" are a thing. They aren't even visible to me. 10:54:53 That'd be due to (a) most likely. 10:57:02 And the OAuth crap requires a developer account in my context. 11:00:29 fizzie: Right but you also said that you don't understand (a) :-) 11:00:57 [[Barely]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105904&oldid=65412 * Salpynx * (+4) correct capitalisation, and link 11:01:57 And finally, where is your fucking logout button... 11:02:27 (Apparently that's only an option for *other* sessions, not the "current" one.) 11:03:06 Though I bet that there's still some well-hidden link that continues to work, but it's not advertised anywhere. 11:03:54 int-e: logout for what, the web interface or for an app using app password? 11:04:13 the google account 11:04:42 the web thing 11:05:00 There's a "Sign out" button in the account "disc" for me, at least. 11:05:17 Hmm 11:05:29 int-e: top right round face/avatar picture in gmail, opens a menu, click "Sign out" in that 11:06:02 Maybe I missed it. I did read the "Sign out of Gmail" help page though, and that sent me to the account/devices thing. 11:06:33 Anyway. Sorry for the rant, this upsets me more than it should. 11:07:36 2FA may be the path of least resistance for me actually, since U2F is an option. 11:11:25 Will app passwords even work the way I want though? Or does using an app password without being logged into the google account before trigger the whole 2FA process? 11:40:52 As far as I know, they work in the expected way -- as in, they're pretty much an exemption from 2FA. I used to use them for mutt and Thunderbird. But I've not used them for the last year or so. And given the same "less secure apps" vs. "more secure apps" phrasing in the help pages about app passwords, I wouldn't be incredibly surprised if they got the same deprecation too. 11:43:48 Coincidentally, I just got the December Search performance report for esolangs.org in my Gmail inbox. 11:43:59 It continues to be underwhelming. 11:44:25 "brainfuck" is still the top performing query, driving a total of 12 (!) clicks. 11:58:26 out of how many total clicks? 12:02:47 95, I think. 12:02:58 That's over three a day. 12:56:30 -!- IdfbAn has joined. 13:16:54 -!- IdfbAn has quit (Quit: Client closed). 14:39:49 -!- Sgeo has joined. 15:04:40 [[CTFuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105905&oldid=104693 * Pro465 * (-10) remove specification of bijective base 10 15:36:52 -!- Melvar` has changed nick to Melvar. 15:43:20 Thought: an esolang that’s a concatenative language but the implicit data structure is a map/dict rather than a stack. All the builtins have hardcoded keys that they take their arguments and leave their results at. Primitive “push” commands include a key, e.g. `a:6` to set entry `a` to `6`. Currently pondering whether having a primitive for movement/reassignment is necessary or if a builtin 15:43:22 will work. 15:44:37 (If you need to tell a procedure to do something at a variable key, you need to pass the variable key as the value at a hardcoded key.) 15:49:26 Hmm. I guess to store lists, you do kind of need some ways to manipulate keys as values? 15:56:04 -!- Thelie has joined. 16:05:09 -!- bgs has joined. 17:09:18 [[Skim machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105906&oldid=68223 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+177) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Skim machine programming language on GitHub and changed the category tag Unimplemented to Implemented. 17:11:47 [[Skim machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105907&oldid=105906 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+270) Added an examples section with an addition program as its incipient member. 17:16:50 [[Skim machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105908&oldid=105907 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+1831) Added further information regarding the syntax. 17:19:22 -!- wib_jonas has quit (Quit: Client closed). 18:34:33 -!- Thelie has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 18:40:11 -!- b_jonas has joined. 18:49:55 `slashlearn password//The password of the month is non-(mint-flavored) dental floss. 18:49:58 Relearned 'password': The password of the month is non-(mint-flavored) dental floss. 19:19:13 [[Skim machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=105909&oldid=105908 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+585) Relocated the instruction pattern into the newly introduced command section. 20:44:45 Melvar: That sounds a lot like registers? 20:45:05 I guess the idea here is that you have an addressing mode for talking about registers dynamically, which is maybe less common. 20:45:35 I guess AVR or something has that? 20:45:54 the more registers, the better the organ? 21:36:47 -!- bgs has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:30:25 shachaf: I suppose it does, but there’s an unbounded number of registers and operations can’t have something that looks like the arguments of an asm instruction, they just have to hardcode what registers their args are in. 22:33:56 Also, the closest thing to a pointer is to put a map key / register name into another register, at least that’s what I’m thinking at the moment. 22:36:44 bwahahaha! spam email in HTML that has the text of a link starting with "https;//", presumably to work around antivirus or antispam measures that trigger on when the link text is an URL but very different from the target 22:37:30 Another way to look at it is that literally everything is a global variable and procedures just have to read globals for their inputs and write globals for their outputs. 22:37:45 ARGH. Firefox does autocorrect that. 22:40:27 So basically it becomes a challenge of not clobbering something you still need while putting everything where the procedures you’re using expect it. I suppose getting anything done would devolve into figuring out how to implement a stack on top of this. 22:47:32 Melvar: traditional BASIC and I think INTERCAL only have parameterless subroutine calls, so you generally use global variables to pass arguments. the same happens in machine-code programs on 6502 and other old processors because they don't have efficient stack-relative access, so it's easier to pass arguments in the null page or other fixed addresses, or in registers for processors with more registers. 22:48:54 technically my scan esolang also doesn't have function parameters, but that's mostly an accident because it was just a toy experiment that I abandoned before I implemented function parameter passing 23:06:24 Interesting and good to know.