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08:07:16 <myname> ah, somebody is playing kittens
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08:56:47 <b_jonas> myname: four of us simultaneously, it seems
08:57:54 <myname> i used to play it some years ago and i do like kittens-likes, but i felt like progress got to slow at some point. but i semi-regularly pick it up again
08:58:27 <myname> also, evolve is another nice contestant in that realm, it is missing a mobile app, though
09:26:52 <b_jonas> myname: someone mentioned a game called a dark room http://adarkroom.doublespeakgames.com/ instead as an alternative
09:27:00 <b_jonas> https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2023-01.html#lit
09:27:16 <myname> also a classic, but a bit short
09:29:14 <myname> i also did enjoy realm grinder to an extent, but sadly, it started shifting to a point where you basically had to follow strategy guides in order to progress
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20:32:00 <b_jonas> looks like I need lots of faith for most religious functions, and only temples can store faith. that means I'll need to build several more temples.
21:03:02 <fizzie> Yeah, the faith cap is quite an issue.
21:03:17 <fizzie> The problem with building more temples is, gold storage doesn't grow all *that* readily either.
21:04:28 <fizzie> I've got 71 temples (and 56.96K faith), but I can't build any new ones because it would cost 159.05K gold, and I can only hold 156.37K gold.
21:06:13 <b_jonas> my current cap is 381 gold
21:06:36 <b_jonas> I just built a 5th temple, and at this point even a few more will be a big gain in accessing religious abilities I think
21:07:34 <b_jonas> also there's a religious upgrade called Golden Spire which increases faith storage
21:07:54 <b_jonas> which is weird because you'd think a spire should, if anything, *reduce* capacity of the temples
21:08:18 <b_jonas> possibly not affect it if the temple is built properly for storage, but I don't see how it would increase capacity
21:09:03 <fizzie> Maybe faith storage is less about volume and more about some sort of spiritual thing. I don't know how it works.
21:29:23 <b_jonas> just to be clear, I totall support spires on temples, because that's what makes them such useful recognizable landmarks
21:29:39 <b_jonas> and I can also believe that a competent architect can build temple spires that don't affect faith storage
21:29:48 <b_jonas> I'm just surprised that it can increase faith storage at all
21:30:31 <b_jonas> if the upgrade was called "Golden Dome" I'd be less surprised
21:31:19 <b_jonas> apparently there's another upgrade "Sun Altar" that increases faith storage
21:31:33 <b_jonas> ooh! Stained Glass! I must have that one
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21:36:42 <fizzie> The one that's a Big Deal (eventually, anyway) is the one after that.
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22:32:45 <b_jonas> fizzie: do you mean Fbyne Eribyhgvba?
23:07:05 <b_jonas> funnily with 7 temples I now have more than enoguh faith storage for that, but not enough gold storage
23:41:13 <fizzie> Yeah, the description might make it sound a little meek ("n fznyy obahf") but I'm currently getting +1685.53% bonus to pretty much everything except the most exotic things from it. Although it does take time to ramp up.
23:44:26 <b_jonas> it's Sun Altar that I'm not sure I want. I'm scared that if I choose too many of these then my cats will be too happy.
23:44:43 <b_jonas> I mean I can probably take just this one, but there are so many improvements to happyness
23:54:23 <fizzie> My kitties are 277% happy, and they don't seem to be unhappy about it.