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02:02:49 <GregorR> «if you could have been everybody. why not oerjan, elliott, ais or fizzy? wait fizzy is here» Aww man, I was away from this channel for so long I don't even get listed among the old guard :'(
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05:39:07 <int-e> GregorR: you have been absent for a long time indeed
05:40:00 <int-e> Hah. You left before "everybody" got a wisdom entry even.
05:42:27 <int-e> `learn GregorR is a recovering absentee. He's known for his hack ego and hat tricks.
05:42:31 <HackEso> Learned 'gregorr': GregorR is a recovering absentee. He's known for his hack ego and hat tricks.
05:53:07 <Sgeo> ChatGPT actually taught me some math. I was asking it about division by 0 in real, extended real, and projectively extended reals, and it answered correctly for two of the three (for extended reals it claimed 1/0 is positive infinity. I was able to get it to see its error). But it mentioned the projectively-extended reals as a "one-point compactification", which I hadn't heard of before, and as far as I can tell it's correct
05:54:19 <int-e> though topology will largely not care about the ring structure you started out with.
05:55:01 <Sgeo> https://sharegpt.com/c/7z2BDJg an earlier conversation, https://sharegpt.com/c/LgeDLSy this one
06:22:28 <int-e> Maybe that is actually a use for ChatGPT... finding adjacent keywords to a topic.
06:23:15 <int-e> But the substance of statements when it comes to math and hard sciences... meh, I'm less convinced there.
06:23:48 <int-e> . o O ( Do your own research. )
06:25:29 <int-e> (That innocent phrase has been totally destroyed by cryptocrap.)
06:26:36 <Sgeo> It's bad at substance in general. Only useful if you're knowledgeable and attentive enough to spot mistakes or at least double check, or if factual accuracy isn't important (e.g. fiction)
07:00:31 <int-e> But I'm afraid that it's getting good enough to replace TV experts.
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08:51:34 <shachaf> ChatGPT taught me a bunch of maths, but unfortunately everything it said was nonsense so I had to unlearn it.
08:54:10 <HackEso> FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. It's also a room whose gimmick is that it gets darker as you kill the enemies.
08:54:35 <FireFly> heh, I don't even know what the latter is a reference to
08:55:19 <HackEso> https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/log/tip/wisdom/firefly
09:01:02 <int-e> FireFly: I don't know; https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Firefly_Room quite possibly.
09:03:08 <int-e> (maybe b_jonas remembers)
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09:12:06 <b_jonas> int-e: probably the firefly room from Super Metroid. it has a zig-zag path in its upper part and a spike floor in the lower part with an e-tank, plus fireflee enemies, and as you kill the fireflees the tile layer gets darker and darker so if you kill them all it's all black and you have to remember the layout to get up
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09:14:04 <b_jonas> it's notable mostly because of hellruns (lower Norfair without Varia suit) in Super Metroid randomizers, because it's a room that's in lower norfair but not heated, is close to a save location, you can farm the firefleas for power bombs of which you need a lot because they're often the bottleneck for crystal flashes and you need 6 extra to exit lower norfair (if you don't have bombs or screw attack)
09:14:23 <b_jonas> and also sometimes gives you the vanilla e-tank to quickly recharge your health
09:14:41 <b_jonas> (and it's on the path that you have to follow anyway)
09:16:14 <b_jonas> the fireflea enemies are relatively harmless so the room isn't too dangerous; they appear elsewhere too but it's only in this one room where they cause darkening, so that's really a property of the room, not the monster
09:19:44 <b_jonas> also apparently I got the whole name thing wrong: https://wiki.supermetroid.run/Lower_Norfair_Fireflea_Room says the enemies are called fireflea and the room is called lower norfair fireflea room
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09:23:17 <int-e> Fly, flea! Flee, fly!
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09:42:31 <b_jonas> if they're called firefleas that explains why you couldn't easily find this by searching for fireflies
09:50:06 <int-e> the spell chequer will not save you this time
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10:55:15 <esolangs> [[X7]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106810&oldid=106766 * LyricLy * (+3) value > integer
10:58:59 <esolangs> [[X7]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106811&oldid=106810 * LyricLy * (+43) Improve select docs
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11:02:41 <esolangs> [[X7]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106812&oldid=106811 * LyricLy * (+17) Don't show my list as a link
11:03:58 <esolangs> [[X7]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106813&oldid=106812 * LyricLy * (+26) first -> bottommost
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11:20:26 <wib_jonas> int-e: it doesn't save *you*. it does save me, if I search for "firefly room super metroid" then google spell corrects it to "fireflea room super metroid"
11:21:23 <wib_jonas> if you don't know that it's about super metroid then it doesn't help
11:24:09 <wib_jonas> oh no, this spammer is using a malformed email address. how am I supposed to reply to them now about the important business opportunity?
11:24:19 <wib_jonas> malformed email address in the From field that is
11:25:13 <int-e> reply-to? mailto: link in body?
11:28:23 <esolangs> [[X7]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106814&oldid=106813 * LyricLy * (+12) Get it right
11:34:08 <wib_jonas> no reply-to, but I got two other spam mails from what seem like the same spammer
11:34:21 <wib_jonas> with non-malformed From: addresses
11:35:40 <wib_jonas> > From: "=?UTF-8?B?TmFmaXVyIFJhaG1hbsKg?= <nafiur"@towerfreight.com
11:35:42 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:49: error: parse error on input ‘@’
11:43:42 <int-e> I guess somebody scraped *real* email addresses and split them at the `@`, and used the whole prefix as a would-be local part?
11:44:03 <int-e> And this was `Nafiur Rahman <nafiur@...>`
11:44:16 <int-e> `` base64 -d <<<TmFmaXVyIFJhaG1hbsKg
11:57:41 <wib_jonas> int-e: that doesn't explain the lack of > at the end
11:58:55 <wib_jonas> ok, I guess that could be a quirk of parsing incorrectly
11:59:36 <wib_jonas> but still the double quotes are odd
12:17:53 <wib_jonas> hehehe. so RFC 2047 defines this =?charset?X?...?= style quoting that's used in email headers. you encode strings like that, where charset is the name of a character set, X is the letter B for base64 encoding or Q for a variant of mime-quoted-printable encoding (variant because underscore represent space). each encoded word from the =? to the ?=
12:17:53 <wib_jonas> inclusive must be at most 75 bytes long, if you want to encode longer text you break to multiple such sequences. BUT the RFC also says that if the charset isn't single-byte one but mode-switching then you must add shift sequences to return to the initial shift state at the end of each encoded part. that means if a character set uses very long shift
12:17:54 <wib_jonas> sequences (and possibly a long name) then you might not be able to use it with RFC 2047 encoding.
12:24:03 <wib_jonas> this seems to be just a theoretical consideration, there probably isn't an actual charset that would cause this problem
12:35:14 <wib_jonas> even if it doesn't make encoding impossible, it does sound like a requirement that's hard in practice. generic encoders do sometimes have a flush or similar function to force reset the character set, but how do you know when to call that to get the possibly variant-quoted-printable escaped output to fit a given number of bytes?
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13:54:47 <esolangs> [[Wasm]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106816&oldid=106815 * Kaveh Yousefi * (-3) Rectified the mnemonic for the If command terminator, imputed to be incorrect, from EndWhile to EndIf.
14:01:22 <esolangs> [[Wasm]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106817&oldid=106816 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+407) Introduced an examples section compact of two initial members, the first being an infinitely repeating cat program, the second a truth-machine.
14:06:09 <esolangs> [[Wasm]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106818&oldid=106817 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+1743) Added a Hello World! program as a third example.
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17:30:41 <esolangs> [[User:Orisphera/Completeness]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106820&oldid=105966 * Orisphera * (+20) /* What is a programming language? */
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17:48:15 <HackEso> Free Hero Mesh? ¯\(°_o)/¯
18:05:47 <esolangs> [[User:Orisphera/Completeness]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106821&oldid=106820 * Orisphera * (+6) /* Completeness by halting */
18:06:46 <esolangs> [[User:Orisphera/Completeness]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106822&oldid=106821 * Orisphera * (+59) /* Full completeness */
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18:31:46 <GregorR> int-e: I'm presumably in HackEso as Gregor, since that's the nick I had on Freenode.
18:31:52 <HackEso> Gregor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.
18:34:37 <esolangs> [[S l o w]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106823&oldid=84940 * Tux1 * (+226)
19:04:58 <HackEso> 1/2:613) <oerjan> shachaf: wait, _you_ are in northumberland? <shachaf> No. <oerjan> whew <oerjan> we don't have room for more esolangers there. <shachaf> oerjan: Wait, *you* are in Northumberland? <oerjan> no <shachaf> Whew. <shachaf> We don't have room for more esolangers there. \ 903) <elliott> well what is time <elliott> imo: an illusion [...] <Taneb> elliott, I think it's more like a burrito <Taneb> If you have too much of time y
19:10:30 <esolangs> [[Tupilled]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106824&oldid=106808 * Ashli Katt * (+274)
19:12:20 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Proman3419 * New user account
19:21:18 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106825&oldid=106775 * Proman3419 * (+187) /* Introductions */
19:29:11 <esolangs> [[GoDDS]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106826 * Proman3419 * (+266) Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Graph of Distributed Data Structures |paradigms=Imperative |author=[[User:Proman3419 Herdran]], |majorimpl=[https://github.com/proman3419/Graph-of-Distributed-Data-Structures Java] |year=[[:Category:2023|2023]] |files=<code>.godds</code> }}"
19:39:31 <esolangs> [[GoDDS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106827&oldid=106826 * Proman3419 * (+226)
19:40:11 <esolangs> [[GoDDS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106828&oldid=106827 * Proman3419 * (+5)
19:43:13 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Proman3419 * moved [[GoDDS]] to [[GoDDS - Graph of Distributed Data Structures]]: Rename to full name
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19:53:33 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Proman3419 * uploaded "[[File:Fizz buzz 1.jpg]]"
19:59:08 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Proman3419 * uploaded "[[File:Fizz buzz 2.jpg]]"
20:09:31 <esolangs> [[GoDDS - Graph of Distributed Data Structures]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106833&oldid=106829 * Proman3419 * (+2881)
20:09:36 <esolangs> [[S l o w]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106834&oldid=106823 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+23) /* External resources */ Category
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20:19:26 <esolangs> [[GoDDS - Graph of Distributed Data Structures]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106836&oldid=106835 * Proman3419 * (+293)
20:21:25 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106837&oldid=106786 * Proman3419 * (+51) Added GoDDS - Graph of Distributed Data Structures
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21:35:39 <HackEso> Gregor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.
21:39:46 <int-e> GregorR: mystifying
21:39:57 <int-e> (The entry, not the nick change)
21:48:01 <b_jonas> wait, is that the same Gregor under a different name?
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21:58:18 <int-e> b_jonas: yes, see log (3 1/2 hours ago)
22:06:38 <b_jonas> ``` \? wib_jonas; \? wob_jonas # yeah, two entries happens
22:06:41 <HackEso> wib_jonas is b_jonas in disguise, so that he can do magic tricks. \ wob_jonas? ¯\(°_o)/¯
22:07:04 <b_jonas> ``` for x in wib_jonas; do \? "$x"; done
22:07:06 <HackEso> wib_jonas is b_jonas in disguise, so that he can do magic tricks.
22:07:11 <b_jonas> ``` for x in oren \\oren\\; do \? "$x"; done
22:07:14 <HackEso> oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He's finally got the hang of toycj tuping. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a and other shady characters. To escape the (build) system he's considering a career change to mad culinary science. \ \oren\ is an optical attempt to improve upon oren. The only thing it actually improved was name recognizability
22:07:35 <b_jonas> there are probably mreo pairs
22:42:52 <HackEso> Taneb is not elliott, no matter whom you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, one of which is a Czech woman, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. He sometimes invents without noticing it (see: tanebventions).
22:46:27 <b_jonas> `? people who taneb is not
22:46:29 <HackEso> Taneb is not elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond, Queen Elizabeth the first, or anyone older than Queen Elizabeth the Second. Pending approval: Shigeru Miyamoto.
22:47:50 <b_jonas> .oO(that doesn't deny that he's Satoshi Nakamoto)
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