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hyperloo < 1677400382 311712 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :hyperloo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1677400453 406616 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( It features supersonic flushing. ) < 1677400482 871362 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( But it's also connected to a number of mysterious disappearances. ) < 1677401794 568058 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-6d70-3703-fa0b-223.fixed6.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs sprout :sprout < 1677402091 557640 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-6d70-3703-fa0b-223.fixed6.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1677402817 299414 :sprout!~quassel@2a02:a448:3a80:1:6d70:3703:fa0b:223 JOIN #esolangs * :sprout < 1677403099 309384 :sprout!~quassel@2a02:a448:3a80:1:6d70:3703:fa0b:223 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1677403852 13460 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-6d70-3703-fa0b-223.fixed6.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs sprout :sprout < 1677403914 376332 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1677404128 5121 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-6d70-3703-fa0b-223.fixed6.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1677404572 133260 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I got a nice answer here framing it the same way int-e did: https://math.stackexchange.com/a/4642312 < 1677404592 74041 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Though I'd still like to know about the core of the question, on general D+P>q bounds. < 1677405455 170739 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :That indeed looks eerily familiar. < 1677405517 214959 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-6d70-3703-fa0b-223.fixed6.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs * :sprout < 1677405573 361183 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And I think they got about as far as I did? I don't quite recall where exactly I gave up. < 1677405645 901098 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's not of huge practical importance in that you can always make your shards larger relatively cheaply. < 1677405769 931633 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Heck I don't even remember *when* we discussed this here... half a year ago? More? Less? < 1677407967 577299 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Presumably less. < 1677407992 795599 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure I knew anything about erasure codes half a year ago. < 1677409314 175891 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, we were talking about normal error-correcting codes and secret sharing instead < 1677409465 874707 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, looks like we weren't discussing them ebfore 2022-10 < 1677409481 740588 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm. Well, the latter is really close to erasure codes, except that you always erase the original n shards, and p is at least n. < 1677409490 815025 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(or we used other words or codes to mention them so grep doesn't find it) < 1677409518 755214 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677409554 490280 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: kind of, but secret sharing has more strict requirements so that you can never recover parts of the cleartext even probabilistically < 1677409555 749647 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Basically, the design question is the same if you focus on systematic linear codes. < 1677409583 730604 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: we have yesterday's counting argument that ensures the secrets are actually obscured if you have too few shards. < 1677409663 661369 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I think in most secret sharing schemes the secret is just a single shard? < 1677409664 700273 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And in particular, the same "matrix with all square submatrices being invertible" characterization also occurs in the secret sharing case. < 1677409670 738119 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :You add randomness with the other shards. < 1677409695 797950 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION shrugs.
< 1677409712 701366 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe I'll read old logs later now that b_jonas has narrowed it down a bit. < 1677409725 782153 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is the "matrix with all suqare submatrices being invertible" characterization only applicable to systematic codes? < 1677409811 711063 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :As yes, because it interacts with the fixed identity matrix. < 1677409834 305080 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm. < 1677409855 398433 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :The general characterization is "NxK matrix where any KxK submatrix is invertible", presumably. < 1677409856 998095 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I admit I don't feel like thinking too much about this. secret sharing is practically solved to my satisfaction; you need erasure code for raid arrays of hard disks or SSDs but you only need small ones with few shards and for large data and you don't mind a little bit of overhead so it's practically solved too; I feel like the actually important stuff is error-correcting codes rather than erasure codes < 1677409858 590167 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So no, this doesn't apply to secret sharing. But I'm pretty sure *I* ventured into erasure codes last year for some reason. < 1677409881 30488 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :For secret sharing you only care about the maximal square submatrices. < 1677409889 243198 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Yes, error-correcting codes seem a lot more interesting and tricky. < 1677409903 769522 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't even know how to do them efficiently. < 1677409963 338213 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :admittedly you may also want larger erasure codes for long distance radio communication where you transmit shards one after another and there can be radio noise erasing multiple shards, and then you use error-correcting codes inside shards in case parts of them are erased obvisouly, and that combo might work better than a generic error-correction code combination < 1677409975 52895 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean the connection is still there in the sense that if you have a systematic erasure code with sufficiently many parity shards, you can use those parity shards for secret sharing. < 1677409994 760588 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I'm less sure now that this is how I got there. < 1677410066 149529 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but in this radio example too you don't need a perfect code, you can accept a small (compared to your data) overhead and that apparently makes the problem somewhat easier (in some cases at least) < 1677410170 597117 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but also, in the radio case your code unit (or shards) will want to be large, so it's not hard to use a linear scheme based on polynomials in a finite field, right? < 1677410195 845085 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's not the most computationally efficient but not too bad either < 1677410225 418818 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :especially since if you need it at large scale you can make custom hardware for it and then it will be as efficient as any < 1677410704 716950 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean at that point you're using all sorts of funny combinations of error-correcting codes and checksums too so the erasure code isn't really worse < 1677412498 274881 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Presumably you have to use randomness for secret sharing. < 1677412560 410137 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :? < 1677412581 355265 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes. why is that a problem? < 1677412583 601110 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Shamir's secret sharing doesn't need any randomness; it's an information-theoretic argument. < 1677412607 12145 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean, obviously, if the secret is non-random (read: guessable) then you have a problem. < 1677412614 527870 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :How can a deterministic algorithm split a secret? < 1677412680 643586 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :err < 1677412695 982800 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Never mind, I'm still in erasure code mode I think. < 1677412720 639368 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :You need those extra polynomial coefficients and yes, those should better be random. < 1677412892 234427 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can make your secret random with some symmetric cryptography if that helps, that can be worth if the secret is large < 1677412924 742952 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I assume secret sharing usually operates on GF(256) or something. < 1677412927 194805 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it's not forced by some cryptanalysis nonsense like how you make the data that you sign with RSA random < 1677412970 363862 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: in IOCCC yes, but you can use a different field < 1677413128 800874 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1677413447 921142 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm when did debian add non-free-firmware < 1677413798 334545 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: they have had a non-free section that's like not officially part of debian. I have it added in the sources.list but then all packages from it filtered out by default in aptitude so I can install the few GFDL licensed manuals that they somehow consider non-free when they consider gnuplot with its similarly restrictive license free < 1677413805 758945 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :tromp: Hmm is any of the alpha (psuedo-)combinator stuff published? < 1677413849 79310 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I know about that one. But see https://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-nvidia-gsp < 1677413873 414821 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had to add non-free-firmware as well for that. < 1677413877 416194 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :not published, just mentioned in some forums < 1677413904 160890 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: isn't that also in the non-free section? < 1677413938 525850 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nope. Note that this is unstable (sid). I'm sure it's a recent change. < 1677413942 302076 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. in https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/153163/what-is-the-shortest-function-of-lambda-calculus-that-generates-all-functions-of < 1677413946 31743 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :So I quite like this thing about computing Fibonacci numbers using the quotient ring Z[p]/[p^2 = p + 1] < 1677413970 669846 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :And I can see how to make it work for any linear recurrence, and how to show that it works, but I feel like I'm missing some context. < 1677414367 793563 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1677414718 778545 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1677414753 126400 :TheFloatingPixel!~TheFloati@public-gprs180242.centertel.pl JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] TheFloatingPixel < 1677414826 73086 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Ah, this seems relevant: https://www.debian.org/vote/2022/vote_003 ...having a distinct section name helps with managing what goes into the installer. < 1677415309 574531 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: so the non-free firmware remains in a separate section so it's easy to tell which packages are non-free, but they're included on the install DVD? I don't particularly care about what goes to the full DVD because the debian DVDs don't seem to work well in practice anyway < 1677415354 372964 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: as far as I can see they've split non-free into firmware and other stuff (though I don't know what other stuff there is) < 1677415424 51158 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, I don't care beyond the fact that I can now update this system again. < 1677415459 454792 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :after adding non-free-firmware to sources.list < 1677415460 978598 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see. and that applies starting from debian 12 but not to 11, right? < 1677415492 38502 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I assume so. < 1677415501 610250 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It would be crazy to break stable like this. < 1677415554 534419 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, it looks like bullseye doesn't have a non-free-firmware section but bookworm does < 1677415602 517822 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :where are the names for the debian versions listed officially? there used to be a nice link from the debian homepage < 1677415605 380809 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And who knows, maybe they'll make this addition automatic for dist upgrades to the next stable release for installations that include any non-free firmware packages. < 1677415607 783396 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but they like hid it now < 1677415644 840272 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.debian.org/releases/index.en.html < 1677415703 38331 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so 9 is stretch, 10 is buster aka oldstable, 11 is bullseye aka stable, and bookworm is the next one < 1677415706 590424 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah that's the only source I know < 1677415741 79467 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the page is there, they just hid the link from the frontpage < 1677415787 264494 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ftparchives#sourceforcodenames goes back farther, but even https://www.debian.org/releases/index.en.html goes to before I first used Debian < 1677415799 180097 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( what's a front page... I usually bypass those with a search engine ) < 1677415891 620094 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, the FAQ is way better < 1677415920 704203 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ftparchives#sourceforcodenames doesn't acknowledge that "sid" is also an acronym standing for "still in development" < 1677415941 886583 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it does tell what sid is and who Sid in Toy Story is, but not the dual meaning < 1677415949 939894 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/meaning/etymology/ < 1677416018 77701 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1677416077 230312 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm < 1677416086 372044 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :they are going to run out of good codenames in a decade < 1677416121 762947 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"rocky" is still usable, and "spell" probably, and there's an RC car called "RC" but that would be a really bad name for a release because everyone will read it as meaning "release candidate" < 1677416165 260737 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but after that you'll have to use toys from the sequels or something < 1677416208 913438 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and Toy Story 2 adds very few new toys < 1677416313 222395 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( Video title: The Death of Debian ...and then talk about Toy Story characters. ) < 1677416358 331622 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FWIW I didn't even know that that's where they take their names from. < 1677416447 402174 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Debian invests donations into flop sequel Toy Story 5" < 1677416522 902686 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :While critics lament the confusing cast of new characters with no purpose for the story, Debian went on record stating that it was money well spent. < 1677416555 398817 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or they could just go: stretch, buster, bullseye, bookworm, trixie, rocky, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 < 1677416590 830544 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :TRUE, FALSE, FILE_NOT_FOUND < 1677417381 210767 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perhaps they could cut costs if they skip the Hollywood movie that nobody would want to watch anyway. release some tie-in merchandise books and cheap toys, write a bunch of reviews of the first half of the advance screening by reviewers who walked out the room in the middle, document the characters on Wikia and TvTropes, post some social media posts on whatever people use at that time about how the < 1677417387 328450 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :movie is so bad that cinemas don't even bother to show it – no wait, cinemas won't exist anymore, make that streaming providers don't even host the movie < 1677417719 21456 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: isn't it FALSE = 0, TRUE = 1, ENOENT = 2 ? < 1677417791 361399 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :No. The reversal of True and False was almost as hurtful as the extra value: https://thedailywtf.com/articles/What_Is_Truth_0x3f_ < 1677420064 282843 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.215.123.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl JOIN #esolangs FreeFull :FreeFull < 1677422228 171019 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1677427984 461777 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Richard565 5* 10New user account < 1677428369 303962 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.167 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime > 1677428801 143575 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107048&oldid=107039 5* 03Richard565 5* (+213) 10 < 1677430753 294444 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.167 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1677430883 59216 :razetime!~Thunderbi@2401:4900:6284:d6aa:a2fa:b085:54f9:a6af JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677431679 969402 :razetime!~Thunderbi@2401:4900:6284:d6aa:a2fa:b085:54f9:a6af QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1677432917 471288 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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