< 1675209720 70406 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675210250 894628 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675210508 891991 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675210691 872367 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675211302 877913 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1675211336 75096 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675211564 32333 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675211591 959959 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675211902 959856 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1675212051 65250 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675212172 216679 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Client Quit < 1675212191 876701 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675212689 901178 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675212894 143408 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is it possible to design an esolang such that only a quine-like program can implement it? I've made an esolang where that was the easiest implementation, but I believe some Common Lisps could do it without a quine < 1675212998 417466 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that seems hard to define < 1675213252 874498 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675213284 376754 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I imagine that languages with an eval function or equivalent functionality would automatically qualify as "quine-like". < 1675213372 81339 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Client Quit < 1675213391 892563 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675213648 895254 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675214068 894552 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675214271 955861 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Client Quit < 1675214291 954477 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf > 1675215940 405745 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106581&oldid=106568 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+257) 10Add debug functions < 1675215958 378513 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1675217707 337582 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675217850 183755 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1675221046 303137 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.0.35 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675222251 801260 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1675222268 286519 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN #esolangs lifthrasiir :Kang Seonghoon < 1675223423 975303 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-c4ea-f4f5-e9b3-e048.fixed6.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1675224175 291385 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.0.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1675225308 724053 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Subjective-C14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106582&oldid=106402 5* 03Proxxa 5* (+2751) 10Consolidate style; rearrange features; add methods and purity keywords sections < 1675225794 268423 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net JOIN #esolangs m5zs7k :m5zs7k < 1675226278 170254 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675226629 570701 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net JOIN #esolangs m5zs7k :m5zs7k < 1675227105 23726 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.0.35 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675228103 756919 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.0.35 QUIT :Quit: See You Space Cowboy < 1675229494 340193 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1675229677 313324 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1675230853 654785 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.0.35 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675230853 654993 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.0.35 QUIT :Client Quit < 1675231594 371650 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675231959 135395 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1675236331 218347 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675237300 162670 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675237432 302057 :sprout!~quassel@2a02:a448:3a80:1:3174:db8:3b9e:cc91 JOIN #esolangs sprout :sprout < 1675238389 310419 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675243621 843111 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1675246377 289128 :sprout_!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-1ca3-2750-470b-5967.fixed6.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs * :sprout < 1675246549 299816 :sprout!~quassel@2a02:a448:3a80:1:3174:db8:3b9e:cc91 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675250284 246072 :slx!~andreou@user/bznt JOIN #esolangs bznt :andreou < 1675250391 105871 :slx!~andreou@user/bznt QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.8 < 1675253083 749432 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs SGautam :Siddharth Gautam > 1675254172 986170 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fash14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106583&oldid=105662 5* 03TJC games 5* (-29) 10give ./args a purpose in .fashp files > 1675254356 794282 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gdelang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106584&oldid=105822 5* 03TJC games 5* (+66) 10augh > 1675254465 437904 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Geolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106585&oldid=105834 5* 03TJC games 5* (+45) 10 > 1675254473 674902 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Geolang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106586&oldid=106585 5* 03TJC games 5* (+1) 10/* Truth machine */ > 1675254684 512712 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106587&oldid=106578 5* 03TJC games 5* (+205) 10why did it take so long? < 1675254851 127267 :Nif!~Nif@91.240.227.220 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Nif < 1675254851 127531 :Nif!~Nif@91.240.227.220 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Helo < 1675254866 953446 :Nif!~Nif@91.240.227.220 PRIVMSG #esolangs :20th thats funny < 1675254868 470708 :Nif!~Nif@91.240.227.220 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol < 1675254975 937200 :Nif!~Nif@91.240.227.220 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ok bye < 1675254979 482772 :Nif!~Nif@91.240.227.220 QUIT :Client Quit < 1675255369 522224 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675255502 671444 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1675256014 432319 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:KapitanGamer14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106588&oldid=106577 5* 03KapitanGamer 5* (+55) 10 > 1675256060 529334 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:KapitanGamer14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106589&oldid=106588 5* 03KapitanGamer 5* (+4) 10 > 1675256695 728776 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:Tree-based14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106590 5* 03KapitanGamer 5* (+194) 10Created page with "Programming languages where memory is a [[Tree]], the program is a [[Tree]], or a [[Tree]], a graph tree, or some other form of this data structure is an important element of the language." > 1675256759 45411 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:Non-interactive IO14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106591 5* 03KapitanGamer 5* (+29) 10Redirected page to [[Category:No IO]] > 1675262104 216061 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:Non-interactive IO14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106592&oldid=106591 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+29) 10Removed redirect to [[Category:No IO]] > 1675262611 992695 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106593&oldid=106335 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+204) 10 > 1675262626 428870 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106594&oldid=106593 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+91) 10forgor sig > 1675262650 439503 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106595&oldid=106594 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (-4) 10 > 1675262759 225196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:Non-interactive IO14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106596&oldid=106592 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+114) 10 > 1675263532 37122 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106597&oldid=106572 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+212) 10examples > 1675263850 975897 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106598&oldid=106597 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+124) 10 > 1675264477 244925 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainless14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106599&oldid=106332 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+89) 10 > 1675264677 242249 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106600&oldid=106598 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+239) 10 < 1675265037 54239 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1675265224 48525 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Northdot9 5* 10New user account < 1675265317 221926 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1675266275 307115 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname > 1675266662 178263 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106601&oldid=106587 5* 03Northdot9 5* (+132) 10 > 1675266675 375488 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Whitespace14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106602&oldid=105041 5* 03Northdot9 5* (+101) 10/* See also */ > 1675266761 106544 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Northdot914]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106603 5* 03Northdot9 5* (+127) 10Created page with "Hi there. I'm esoteric and I get languages inflicted upon me professionally; So it was a natural choice to get an account here." < 1675267373 351753 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675267564 366645 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf > 1675268715 2485 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106604&oldid=106112 5* 03Orisphera 5* (+472) 10/* Based on dimensions */ < 1675269941 511624 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1675270901 710276 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1675271342 483628 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :hjello > 1675272907 316474 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106605&oldid=106604 5* 03Orisphera 5* (+684) 10/* Based on dimensions */ < 1675273279 128252 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1675273290 180440 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :SGeo: yes, https://esolangs.org/wiki/HI9%2B < 1675273296 780218 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675273299 536570 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I think that's about the only way < 1675274105 511027 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1675274217 529210 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675274515 606638 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675274530 931038 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think for a compiled HI9+ program, I should print the CPU it's running on. As in, the actual semiconductor pattern. < 1675274570 511878 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Cheap way to make new CPUs < 1675274621 751256 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that will be hard, most cpus have too much legal protection for that < 1675274724 662568 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1675277740 437770 :mla!~mla@198.57.44.222 JOIN #esolangs mla :mla > 1675277950 501374 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RAND14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106606&oldid=19152 5* 03KapitanGamer 5* (+54) 10 < 1675280054 990901 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1675280090 443901 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675280130 148328 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron < 1675284317 735871 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675285815 778420 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675285985 620663 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1675286028 653861 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675286161 998551 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1675287978 441974 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`ftoc 82 < 1675287980 490031 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :82.00°F = 27.78°C < 1675288309 225047 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Quit: Be well! < 1675289657 593410 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1675289881 177758 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675289908 999937 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675290112 888322 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Client Quit < 1675290206 793500 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675294311 297929 :craigo_!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675295205 342997 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675299185 494708 :Cale!~cale@cpebc4dfb3052b3-cmbc4dfb3052b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN #esolangs Cale :realname < 1675304339 978099 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1675304442 328470 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1675305149 162069 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.6.240 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime > 1675306374 720703 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Waduzitdo14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106607&oldid=91572 5* 03Star651 5* (+48) 10even the top Google search result for Waduzitdo, and the way most of us Waduzitdo programmers run code, wasn't listed until now < 1675312036 289609 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1675313497 79056 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.6.240 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675316266 460312 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.6.240 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675318502 14663 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1675320436 192377 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675320439 190096 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675320458 72916 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675321892 901314 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :How common is it to win at Magic: the Gathering by forcing your opponent to make a copy of Phage the Untouchable? < 1675321921 304319 :MrAureliusR!~MrAureliu@user/mraureliusr JOIN #esolangs MrAureliusR :Got ZNC? < 1675323578 493466 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675323870 865864 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675325237 636995 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1675325258 134560 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675325536 199526 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Client Quit < 1675325556 85255 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675326838 731986 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675328996 874158 :fowl0!~fowlmouth@user/fowl JOIN #esolangs fowl :fowlmouth < 1675329046 947 :fowl0!~fowlmouth@user/fowl NICK :fowl < 1675330164 459634 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.6.240 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1675330210 106624 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.6.240 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675330256 569720 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.6.240 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675330407 117083 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I don't know, but in 3 card blind at least two of us tried Phage + Evil Presents (the holiday card) > 1675330407 793993 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ChuckEsoteric08/Interpreters14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106608&oldid=102356 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (-374) 10 > 1675331823 860327 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Bil-joodusstudios14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106609&oldid=106336 5* 03Bil-joodusstudios 5* (+134) 10/* Languages I'm working on */ < 1675331890 613151 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hehe, did you notice that https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=9757 has the flavor text updated in Gatherer compared to the card because the one on the card is obsolete, but now the text in Gatherer seems to be obsolete too < 1675331942 955433 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so that card suffered a fate worse than Urza's Hot Tub > 1675332049 437212 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Bil-joodusstudios 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Grpehelloworldtriangle.png10]]" > 1675332147 926607 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GRPE14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106611&oldid=106301 5* 03Bil-joodusstudios 5* (+560) 10/* Examples */ added hello world triangle < 1675333244 212334 :craigo_!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1675338118 301431 :craigo!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1675338248 156269 :craigo_!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1675343305 316445 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675343320 944089 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1675343763 616950 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron < 1675344165 210206 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1675344315 77725 :impomatic!~impomatic@host86-147-136-195.range86-147.btcentralplus.com JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675344436 146109 :impomatic!~impomatic@host86-147-136-195.range86-147.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1675344456 254149 :impomatic!~impomatic@host86-147-136-195.range86-147.btcentralplus.com JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf > 1675344553 250890 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106612&oldid=106581 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+27) 10Update pop and lift's group behaviour > 1675349082 687102 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106613&oldid=106600 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+7496) 10 > 1675349520 486758 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT/Concept Interpreter14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106614 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+1441) 10interp > 1675349560 857427 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT/Concept Interpreter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106615&oldid=106614 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+20830) 10 > 1675349631 615382 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT/Concept Interpreter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106616&oldid=106615 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+32203) 10 > 1675349664 204397 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT/Concept Interpreter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106617&oldid=106616 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+35996) 10 > 1675349687 223495 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT/Concept Interpreter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106618&oldid=106617 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+41642) 10 > 1675349711 492395 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT/Concept Interpreter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106619&oldid=106618 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+34861) 10 < 1675349754 135731 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.6.240 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime > 1675349838 762159 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT/Concept Interpreter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106620&oldid=106619 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+22500) 10 > 1675350082 73921 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT/Concept Interpreter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106621&oldid=106620 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+203) 10 > 1675350096 814502 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT/Concept Interpreter14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106622&oldid=106621 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+0) 10 > 1675350140 415187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106623&oldid=106613 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+65) 10 > 1675350199 457363 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:SpaceByte14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106624&oldid=106500 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+32) 10 > 1675350208 795215 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:SpaceByte14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106625&oldid=106624 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+0) 10 > 1675350361 470733 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT/Concept Interpreter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106626&oldid=106622 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+2) 10 > 1675350437 58144 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT/Concept Interpreter14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106627&oldid=106626 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+0) 10 < 1675351440 761285 :sprout_!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-1ca3-2750-470b-5967.fixed6.kpn.net QUIT :Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. < 1675351909 213672 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-e91a-e6ce-c731-9a4b.fixed6.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs sprout :sprout < 1675352245 72241 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1675352858 27342 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675353985 850352 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1675354289 887292 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Print (disambiguation)14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106628 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+124) 10Created page with "There are 2 Esolangs at the moment with the name "print", with varying capitalization. * [[Print]] * [[pRINT]] {{disambig}}" < 1675354568 848402 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1675354962 228733 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675355163 314687 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675355512 221914 :impomatic!~impomatic@host86-147-136-195.range86-147.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1675356704 176058 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675358744 816232 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.6.240 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1675358983 832243 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Japt14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106629&oldid=46577 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+32) 10Stub, category < 1675359912 682114 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675361639 245980 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:189b:e20c:ff1c:1d5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1675363332 96385 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675364017 285700 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675364069 811885 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1675364708 111637 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106630&oldid=106612 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+75) 10Add yank < 1675366713 189464 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did not know that they changed the flavor text of one card, but now I know. < 1675367662 113769 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675369257 965742 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I suspect they changed the flavor text of more than one card < 1675369346 537344 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though I wonder why they even made that flavor text instead of parenthisized reminder text. it's text that's there to help you with the rules. it should be a reminder text. < 1675369676 749153 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder if I should learn some R (the numerics programming language) < 1675370275 199794 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675371607 98513 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:f413:dc76:d67c:a979 JOIN #esolangs impomatic :John Metcalf < 1675372275 510846 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675373096 486634 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1675374410 835716 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675374940 179851 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675375656 364195 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675375725 688616 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net JOIN #esolangs m5zs7k :m5zs7k < 1675376035 957305 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1675376074 984325 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net JOIN #esolangs m5zs7k :m5zs7k < 1675376737 88852 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1675376819 464741 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron < 1675377489 386671 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675377536 98956 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1675377727 976859 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1675377786 356188 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1675378245 686997 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1675378284 374993 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT/Concept Interpreter14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106631&oldid=106627 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+29) 10Add category < 1675383618 309316 :Thedarkb1-Deskto!~Thedarkb@92.40.196.34.threembb.co.uk NICK :Thedarkb < 1675388824 597858 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, I have a use for INTERCAL's select operator if I can implement it efficiently... how does one go about that again :) < 1675388994 996662 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah actually I have time to precompute stuff based on the selection bit mask. So I can do fancy bit permutation stuff. < 1675389027 318076 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.felixcloutier.com/x86/pext if you don't mind hardware-specific solutions. < 1675389143 9709 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I assume Intel added PEXT and PDEP specifically to help INTERCAL implementors implement select and mingle, respectively. < 1675389188 496181 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :What's this, bmi2... oh I have that. < 1675389205 405661 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Yeah I know, "bit manipulation instructions") < 1675389273 998171 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, thanks! I vaguely remembered that there was *some* hardware support for this but I wouldn't have found it myself. > 1675390795 873577 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Piechicken20 5* 10New user account < 1675390803 351119 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675390843 530593 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord > 1675390907 536239 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106632&oldid=106601 5* 03Piechicken20 5* (+116) 10/* Introductions */ < 1675392133 878296 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh well, another Ponder This! that could be really challenging if the numbers were a bit bigger. But on the plus side, the first thing I tried was actually too slow :) < 1675393136 174570 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.182 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675394719 305455 :craigo!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1675395016 572222 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106633&oldid=106554 5* 03McChuck 5* (+11) 10/* Listack: A stackless, stack based concatenative language */ > 1675395049 960348 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106634&oldid=106633 5* 03McChuck 5* (+1) 10/* Listack: A symmetric, stackless, stack-based concatenative language */ < 1675401016 977534 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1675401232 53409 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1675402774 299078 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1675406488 439444 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675407744 536077 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675408359 763523 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675410633 425056 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675411822 340537 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675412728 89570 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.182 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675413809 45541 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.182 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675415435 225047 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675419070 749685 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1675420321 753770 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675420659 812542 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.182 QUIT :Quit: See You Space Cowboy < 1675426713 819640 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675426971 136108 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675427848 798650 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1675428205 738525 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds > 1675428719 461694 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106635&oldid=106630 5* 03LyricLy 5* (-27) 10Undo lift forming a group < 1675429390 181610 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1675429438 645942 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675429777 798303 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1675429795 467108 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675430004 495901 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1675430033 245881 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675431017 284260 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1675431060 59853 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675431284 617697 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1675431351 429120 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675432725 337403 :craigo!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1675433113 555487 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675433756 362144 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1675433770 697572 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675434139 144169 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1675434143 807671 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675435674 62773 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1675435705 187287 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1675435972 427134 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106636&oldid=106635 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+288) 10Document functions < 1675436647 807615 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675438516 702325 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1675438867 978453 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1675438880 287719 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675439109 883743 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1675439134 328582 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675440383 824983 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1675440398 92807 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675440775 932100 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1675440833 595971 :Trieste!~T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1675441680 685666 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Piechicken2014]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106637 5* 03Piechicken20 5* (+1985) 10This, Gnalose, is a esolang I made in 21 minutes > 1675441757 583461 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Piechicken2014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106638&oldid=106637 5* 03Piechicken20 5* (+6) 10 < 1675442074 660997 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675444157 164263 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1675444710 206378 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.182 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675444759 236162 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.182 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675448555 232777 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fac:e001:f413:dc76:d67c:a979 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1675449655 354705 :Thedarkb!~Thedarkb@92.40.196.34.threembb.co.uk QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675450643 533524 :monoxane0!~monoxane@user/monoxane JOIN #esolangs monoxane :monoxane < 1675450739 451925 :monoxane!~monoxane@user/monoxane QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1675450739 716134 :monoxane0!~monoxane@user/monoxane NICK :monoxane < 1675451589 298839 :craigo!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675453916 157537 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1675462497 39305 :CAT_S!apic@brezn3.muc.ccc.de JOIN #esolangs CAT_S :A. Pic. - my name since YOLD 3149 < 1675464831 54434 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1675466413 287574 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Nathi1235 5* 10New user account > 1675466604 260333 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106639&oldid=106636 5* 03LyricLy 5* (-2) 10one -> a > 1675467081 652445 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106640&oldid=106632 5* 03Nathi1235 5* (+197) 10/* Introductions */ > 1675467182 232843 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106641&oldid=106536 5* 03Nathi1235 5* (+16) 10 > 1675467403 948116 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TimeWaste14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106642 5* 03Nathi1235 5* (+91) 10Created page with "TimeWaste is an esolang that really wastes your time. further information is coming soon..." < 1675473574 185534 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`learn password The password of the month is Bear this torch against the cold of the night. < 1675473577 486326 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Relearned 'password': password The password of the month is Bear this torch against the cold of the night. > 1675474602 152048 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TimeWaste14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106643&oldid=106642 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+33) 10Stub, category < 1675477234 505785 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1675477260 89369 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1675478017 97261 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.54 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675483051 84286 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.54 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675483692 689636 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1675483813 451945 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron < 1675484684 301841 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.54 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675487233 483221 :craigo!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1675488105 409152 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1675488289 127550 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1675497666 387520 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.54 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675497691 52595 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.54 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675497951 945138 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.54 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1675498840 780448 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.54 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675500482 562463 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm is running `kissat` also a kitten game? < 1675500697 924277 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I never got past year 71) < 1675504337 200520 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal JOIN #esolangs Vorpal :Vorpal < 1675504408 161178 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :It has probably been a decade or so since I was active here. I however recently did a thing relevant to esolangs, thought I should mention it here in case anyone is interested: https://github.com/VorpalBlade/brainoxide < 1675504424 799924 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :optimising brainfuck compiler, really though it was just an excuse to learn rust < 1675504451 580869 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :Compiles to C or interprets directly. Seems to work on all the programs I tested it on. < 1675504537 902491 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I most likely won't do anything else with it (except maybe a bug fix if anyone finds anything), but move on to some completely different, and non-esolang related. < 1675504592 438267 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :Though I am curious as to what the state-of-the-art compiler for Brainfuck is these days. I know for sure that I could do a lot better than what I did above, by building more of a proper flow graph, doing loop induction etc < 1675504635 844947 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe converting the (balanced) code blocks to SSA form. Etc < 1675505532 313997 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :There are too many implementations. A survey would be nice, but would also be a lot of work. < 1675505593 776661 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :Agreed, by the way has anything interesting happened in Befunge in recent years? < 1675505594 752427 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean just look at https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_implementations ...and I'd bet that there's quite a few more. Heck I don't even know whether https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck#Notable_implementations is a subset of that list. < 1675505603 216672 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :Been a long while since I wrote cfunge < 1675505621 953010 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: maybe you can answer that? < 1675505622 702565 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: you're really confused about mathematics and exactness vs. domains??? fnord fnord juttuja jotka uskoo fnord! :p) < 1675505631 925289 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh! Is fungot still running on cfunge? < 1675505632 237053 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Vorpal: definitely need parens around arguments is an inconsistency to me, < 1675505636 512041 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(just kidding, but to my mind fungot is peak befunge) < 1675505637 75093 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: lagging like shit) and no white skies. have you gotten to the part where he's searching online for information while on the command line < 1675505655 158471 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Vorpal: pretty sure it does < 1675505665 312008 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or is, to match the question < 1675505683 512733 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :Cool. Someone should write a rustfunge or something. Too much work for me personally. < 1675505716 753897 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, Befunge is a bit enterprisey... so many extensions. < 1675505751 581237 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :hehe < 1675505762 485107 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :also good luck writing something like fungot in bf < 1675505762 634373 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Vorpal: shutting up.) < 1675505790 592063 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm probably going to go write a low level (and possibly async) daemon next. I want to control the keyboard backlight on my laptop to have a timeout when I'm not typing on it. I have a older laptop with that feature in firmware, and it is neat. < 1675505792 432512 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :we have a guy with a (subset of) C to bf compiler < 1675505801 155778 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh that is cool < 1675505859 421336 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm, is there any esolang with *proper* (non-synchronous) threads? I made an extension in efunge that added that (though the shared funge-space was still atomicly accessed) < 1675505877 176054 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :every esolang with threads I can think of have them running in lock step < 1675505920 83998 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :What was the name... grep says kspalaiologos. I don't know when they were last around. < 1675505955 274645 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: so I could use brainoxide to compile a bf program to C, then compile that back to brainfuck. < 1675505974 908829 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :or the other way around < 1675505981 102855 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that... sounds marvellous. not. < 1675506033 573622 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, this channel has slowed down a lot. < 1675506042 321159 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :still, I would be interested in an esolang with proper threads. That sounds like an interesting challenge to implement < 1675506064 311612 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :People get older, less time. Young people don't use irc any more. < 1675506066 682527 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :uh-oh... there's threaded intercal < 1675506077 440513 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I thought it ran the threads in lock step too? < 1675506086 702721 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :also I do *not* want to try to implement intercal. No way. < 1675506105 253210 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I thought it was specified with actual parallelism < 1675506120 887259 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh? Maybe it is just C-INTERCAL that run them in lock step then? < 1675506132 642398 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do not know what the c-intercal implementation does. < 1675506210 43522 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just don't know what other multithreaded languages we have :) < 1675506287 168714 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :as I said, I did add an experimental extension to efunge (erlang funge) that added free running threads. It was a separate branch iirc. Because I think the performance was quite bad (even on non-threaded stuff). Since every funge-space access needed to be done in thread safe ways < 1675506349 417441 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I seem to have lot most of the docs for it... < 1675506351 28707 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://github.com/VorpalBlade/efunge/blob/feature/supervisor-tree/src/fingerprints/ATHR.spec < 1675506371 212248 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :It abstracted locks as borrowing books from a library iirc < 1675506417 842275 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, at least nobody will starve < 1675506444 655359 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :uh? < 1675506446 752415 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm scared to ask what the memory model for this is < 1675506461 22681 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Vorpal: starvation only happens if you pick up forks < 1675506468 220258 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :;) < 1675506470 97085 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, lol < 1675506481 82919 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :so... (this has been over a decade... details fuzzy) < 1675506510 743774 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(or rather, fail to pick up forks) < 1675506511 566767 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :memory model was that reads/writes to funge space were atomic and sequential order. I think < 1675506535 133653 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :but, read+write would not be atomic unless every thread used the features from the fingerprint for accessing that address < 1675506583 154113 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :good old sequential memory < 1675506619 738260 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :this was basically implemented by having an ETS shared table between the erlang threads. Then all the "atomic" operations were done by RPC calls to a server thread. < 1675506628 104057 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://github.com/VorpalBlade/efunge/blob/feature/supervisor-tree/src/efunge_fungespace.erl seems to have the logic for that < 1675506687 843778 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :the server implementation would be at handle_call() in that file < 1675506722 702761 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :erlang uses message passing as it's primary form of communication between threads. So everything had to be mapped on top of that < 1675506748 404638 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :except, well stuff like ETS tables, which is specifically a shared in-memory key-value database < 1675506800 882753 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I barely know enough to read that < 1675506820 633110 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: it reads like prolog. All pattern matching and multiple-dispatch < 1675506843 793140 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh that's totally fine... it's similar to pattern matching in Haskell. < 1675506861 354530 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I realize that the semantics are a bit different. < 1675506867 16445 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm going to say that pattern matching in erlang is way more powerful than haskell < 1675506880 175143 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :it does not use prolog semantics (it doesn't use unification) < 1675506947 432698 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think the code itself is not too bad, but knowing the standard library abstractions and patterns is probably the sticking point I would guess < 1675506954 669122 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :like "what the heck is a gen_server" < 1675506995 334976 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :(basically it is a pattern making it easy to implement a server-like thing in erlang with RPC over message passing, all the boring boilerplate bits are handled over in the standard library) < 1675507104 66262 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :When you can't use that) (e.g. for the main threads running funge code), you end up having to do a lot of extra yourself: https://github.com/VorpalBlade/efunge/blob/feature/supervisor-tree/src/efunge_thread.erl < 1675507118 429037 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :(see loop/5) < 1675507150 904537 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Eh, https://www.erlang.org/doc/man/gen_server.html#Module:handle_call-3 is readable. < 1675507173 101080 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah I can read it < 1675507184 772256 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :even though it has been a decade or so since i wrote erlang code < 1675507209 362857 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've never written erlang code? Maybe a hello world at some point. < 1675507274 661436 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :right. I found that jumping between programming languages is actually not difficult, once you know a couple. < 1675507275 442210 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I did encounter CCS and CSP in my CS studies. < 1675507282 2310 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the pi calculus too. < 1675507293 512454 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :Probably a bit more work between imperative and functional, but eh < 1675507304 33254 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So the execution model of Erlang is not completely alien. < 1675507329 222536 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm sure I could get into it if needed. < 1675507330 481188 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :remind me, which one was which of CCS and CSP? < 1675507336 701802 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :continuation something passing? < 1675507369 933159 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :calculus of communicating systems and communicating sequential processes < 1675507382 413355 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :CPS is continuation passing style, that's different. < 1675507390 404248 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, I was completely off < 1675507393 102286 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :right < 1675507400 551243 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :"actor model" might be relevant too < 1675507413 792577 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah it is < 1675507430 5369 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is just lots of threads sending messages between each other. Way easier than shared memory actually < 1675507444 201138 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and sometimes you wait for a reply) < 1675507452 222552 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the actor model is far less formal < 1675507459 290527 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah < 1675507467 375341 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah I never studied CCS or CSP < 1675507472 252092 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :CCS and CSP have actual syntax and semantics < 1675507501 734397 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And, again, the pi calculus. I keep leaving that out because it's so much to type. < 1675507524 402889 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm self taught on erlang. I have come to realise I'm more of an engineer than a formal mathematician. I'd rather read some clear code than a formal mathematical model any day < 1675507531 243233 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's a bunch of others too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculus_of_communicating_systems#Related_calculi,_models,_and_languages < 1675507622 809070 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hm I wonder if you can make an esolang out of this. E.g you only have message passing < 1675507641 800199 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe message passing and conditionals, but no actual variables < 1675507647 954905 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder if that would be TC < 1675507683 922148 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :you could have a "system provided" actor for doing IO < 1675507717 352891 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's kind of what these calculi are < 1675507723 699780 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah < 1675507737 366455 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :are the calculi TC though? < 1675507791 564347 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :This one definitely is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi-calculus#Turing_completeness < 1675507835 514014 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah < 1675507886 748763 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :well then, nothing interesting to invent there < 1675507974 233986 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I realize that I never went into depth with these calculi. I can't tell you whether CCS or CSP are TC. < 1675507983 760711 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was thinking to encode the infinite state into unbounded message queues, rather than by having processes being able to replicate themselves. < 1675508066 943547 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, communication is synchronous here; there are no queues. < 1675508068 920637 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675508073 796269 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah < 1675508119 783919 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But you can simulate queues by spawning a dedicated thread for each message that sends the message and then passes a token to the next message thread. < 1675508121 563262 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was thinking async, proper multi-threaded: Then you could just have a infinite "delay line" style memory basically having an echo process that echos things back to you. If you can do pattern matching on your incoming messages you can choose when to read from that process < 1675508175 815064 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :sounds similar to what I suggested? < 1675508183 572368 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :a bit < 1675508282 153449 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you have a queue you can do cyclic tag system stuff. (e.g. https://esolangs.org/wiki/Bitwise_Cyclic_Tag) < 1675508339 521983 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, cool. Yeah so what I was thinking of would *likely* be TC then. < 1675508360 842686 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wouldn't be surprised if (simulated) queues actually feature in TC-ness proofs for the pi-calculus. It sounds like a natural building block. < 1675508371 652175 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Though I guess you can also, alternatively, simulate counters. < 1675508401 33413 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :which might be a bit simpler :) < 1675508466 634260 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I kind of want to come up with some interesting multi-threaded turing tarpit that uses shared memory now < 1675508485 154071 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't see how it make it interesting without also being TC with just a single thread though < 1675508529 527664 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe only some threads can do some operations? E.g. thread 1 can not do additions, but thread 2 cannot do loops? Or something like that < 1675508585 263244 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :and they can only communicate via some rather simple and annoying atomic operation(s) (e.g. something simpler than CAS) < 1675508652 586693 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :but all the interesting operations that they can do are non-atomic. So you have to come up with a way to ask the other thread to do things via this horrible atomic communication < 1675508701 861427 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: does that sound plausible to you? < 1675508763 674608 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Vorpal: if you have asynchronous communication you can use a message queue to send messages to yourself. < 1675508792 383594 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Which really should be enough for a single thread to work out. < 1675508796 700684 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: you would only have a pre-declared set of atomic variables (finite, not growable at runtime) < 1675508828 374108 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :and they would be like atomic bytes or maybe even atomic bits < 1675508837 612460 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess there's the question on how you do conditionals. < 1675508902 23134 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So you may be right... in those calculi, a single thread cannot do conditional computations. < 1675508908 386879 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, only thread 1 can do conditionals. But thread 1 can't do arithmetics. So you need to come up with a way to ask thread 2 to do arithmetics for you, even though thread 2 can't do conditionals. < 1675508913 275119 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :not sure if that would work out < 1675508967 155193 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm feeling like this is heading in the direction of malbolge though... A not particularly interesting language that is just difficult to do things in practically < 1675508983 353273 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, encode values as sequences of bits and don't bother thread 2 at all? < 1675509015 227164 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm, yeah getting something interesting out of this *would* be rather difficult < 1675509019 452033 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(a target for compilers) < 1675509024 470950 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(malbolge, that is)\ < 1675509041 403363 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :right < 1675509121 443332 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The amazing thing about Malbolge is that people managed to tame it. The first proper 99 bottles of beers program was amazing. After that was achieved... it's just more of the same. < 1675509124 206560 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :what if all you have is conditionals and set-if-written-by other thread? < 1675509134 420627 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :E.g. you can't write to a value again until the other thread has done so < 1675509171 552859 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :that basically forces you to use two threads < 1675509178 742597 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :not sure what you mean by "write to value"... my current mental model only has a finite set of atoms and unbounded queues. < 1675509189 925077 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: this is a shared memory tarpit < 1675509193 284332 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :not message passing < 1675509194 720155 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :at all < 1675509199 262489 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :[12:01] I kind of want to come up with some interesting multi-threaded turing tarpit that uses shared memory now < 1675509208 512445 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh I missed the change in context then < 1675509213 41960 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah < 1675509258 13289 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(that only happens to me all the time) < 1675509266 462686 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: now, re-evaluating it in that context. How would one make a horrible but shared shared-memory turing tarpit < 1675509276 29976 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :horrible but interesting* < 1675509326 34207 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( add time travel where a value can be read before it's written ) < 1675509326 135621 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm thinking compare-and-set-if-written-by-other-thread where it just won't do anything unless the other thread was the last writer < 1675509336 406819 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :forcing you to ping-pong between threads < 1675509373 193536 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :right but the danger is that one thread will just be an unglorified echo server < 1675509373 902991 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: that sounds difficult to implement. There was that whole time travel extension to funge (that I never implemented) that would roll back and re-execute state. CBBI had support iirc < 1675509383 464309 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm true < 1675509432 394546 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's pretty hard to make a language interesting by design < 1675509456 712676 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the usual way seems to make a minimal language of sorts and even that isn't foolproof. < 1675509496 705461 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :by the way, how the heck does my crate (rust term for package) for the BF compiler already have 17 downloads? I published it yesterday. https://crates.io/crates/brainoxide Maybe some are like automated virus scanners or something? And the automatic documentation generation is probably one of those. But 17? < 1675509527 284784 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it's at the bottom of the page) < 1675509536 72057 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :crawlers < 1675509552 687309 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :that download the *package* too? Not just view the page. < 1675509583 352878 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's also "New Crates" on https://crates.io/ so somebody may have seen it there. < 1675509589 895992 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :true < 1675509598 875603 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :but who would care about a bf compiler? < 1675509607 446514 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :as you said, there are way too many of them < 1675509607 862578 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :somebody who's bored < 1675509634 974003 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I didn't even include any example programs (because I didn't write them, so no clue about licenses in general) < 1675509655 433518 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The "Downloads over the last 90 days" graph is silly. < 1675509671 122790 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :you mean the smoothing thing it does? Yes it is rather silly < 1675509687 182566 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also the fact that it starts at 0 < 1675509712 42797 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean, it makes sense for older popular crates: https://crates.io/crates/syn < 1675509724 132489 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it would probably be interesting to see timestamps for the downloads < 1675509727 22497 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.54 QUIT :Quit: See You Space Cowboy < 1675509759 982493 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the first 10 downloads were all within a minute of the crate being published. < 1675509760 791078 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is interesting that you can see dips during weekends for popular crates < 1675509791 10521 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :and a big christmas dip < 1675509793 742428 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The #brainfuck tag is quite popular too :P < 1675509812 293399 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(35 results!) < 1675509816 52720 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes I noticed there were a lot < 1675509843 643634 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :brainoxide was not my first name choice lets say < 1675509851 37185 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder if there is a macro one that runs bf during compile time < 1675509857 217904 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :you could absolutely do that in rust < 1675509901 453140 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :let mystring = bf!(+++[>++++<-] other code to do bf here ); < 1675509901 682195 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"An optimizing brainfuck interpreter with helpful errors." < 1675509915 304352 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :um, like "unbalanced loops?" < 1675509918 932076 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :"?* < 1675509931 112431 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, exactly. Kind of weird for a language where the only error you can make is mismatched brackets. < 1675509953 192381 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :like I tell the user if there are too many [ or ] (I don't tell them where that is in the code though. so not helpful I guess) < 1675509953 968868 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I haven't looked closely. < 1675509964 925793 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :and "tape pointer went negative" < 1675509967 219013 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do that too < 1675509968 292066 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's this one: https://crates.io/crates/brainfrick < 1675510042 49538 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :none of the #brainfuck tagged ones mention macro in their title at least < 1675510051 723037 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :so there might be an unexploited niche < 1675510054 132922 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, none of these synopsises sound like they provide a macro for compile time use. < 1675510062 882386 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :exactly < 1675510071 316995 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :not that I'm particularly keen on learning proc macros next < 1675510093 934626 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I doubt you can do it in macro_rules declarative macros due to recursion limits < 1675510164 80816 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://sdleffler.github.io/RustTypeSystemTuringComplete/ (though that is TC in type system, not in macros themselves) < 1675510184 852163 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://github.com/Purpzie/brainfrick/blob/main/src/error.rs#L10-L16 ...yeah missing brackets (with offset, presumably either the offset of an extra ] or the end of the input) and IO errors. > 1675510225 245228 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106644&oldid=106605 5* 03Orisphera 5* (+211) 10/* Ideas related to esoteric operating systems, esoteric processors and esoteric computers */ < 1675510369 358351 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: so (except for telling you the offset) stuff my implementation has too < 1675510395 187094 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :and IO errors are indeed reported (except for EOF on input, which has defined semantics in bf) < 1675510767 300621 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Vorpal: Just to confirm, yes, it's still running on cfunge. < 1675510792 593583 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: oh hi! Was just about to leave and take a nice walk in the sun. Before that though. How have you been this past decade or so? < 1675510831 811529 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :still doing panorams and working at google (in UK?) < 1675510833 610968 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :? < 1675510931 480362 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think I've done many panoramas lately, actually. But still with Google UK, yeah (given recent layoff news, let's see how long). Haven't done really anything esolang-related in ages, beyond keeping the infra (wiki, HackEso, etc.) running. < 1675510981 562625 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah < 1675510994 36829 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I hear it is a mess in UK these days though? < 1675510994 919897 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I guess I've been doing Advent of Code in Burlesque, that's something. < 1675511043 424372 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh cool < 1675511072 215323 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :looks very golfy < 1675511121 43635 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, though not quite as golfy as something like GolfScript. It was made by a former #esoteric regular. < 1675511156 546801 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, I'm going out into the sun. Have a nice day. < 1675511170 661384 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Cheers, as the say here. < 1675511184 368150 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/the/they/ < 1675511450 459566 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: Have you ever thought about starting to post on the fediverse? < 1675511450 828640 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: but the heuristics required to make that assessment?) scheme code markup < 1675511474 192854 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(It has a defunct Twitter account, which I every now and then think about reviving, but with Elon's latest API news that's not going to be an option.) > 1675512196 938033 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Grocery List14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106645&oldid=16619 5* 03Orisphera 5* (+359) 10/* Popping the result (a) */ new section < 1675512940 149503 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I have not followed the twitter debacle in recent weeks. What is this API news? < 1675513062 749750 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :huh I seem to be having some internet slowness. < 1675513066 665017 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675513136 446418 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :packet loss < 1675513238 215208 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Starting February 9, we will no longer support free access to the Twitter API, both v2 and v1.1. A paid basic tier will be available instead" < 1675513298 530587 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675513320 374944 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :So unless fungot becomes profitable somehow (that'd be the day), it's not going to be tweeting. < 1675513320 477413 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: i want to < 1675513336 878728 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: Look, make your own money, then you can use it any way you like. < 1675513337 614420 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: you use erc, there's also `s' ( for example, can lead to corner-to-corner or completeness, and corner-to-corner can lead only to completeness.... some other direction < 1675513401 324845 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-230-207.bredband.tele2.se QUIT :Excess Flood < 1675513479 719783 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-230-207.bredband.tele2.se JOIN #esolangs olsner :Got ZNC? < 1675514870 984122 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-230-207.bredband.tele2.se QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1675516002 496120 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :how am I still connected to irc? I have 60% packet loss, and varying response times of 0.1 - 20 *seconds*. < 1675516074 75427 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: hm does fungot not reply to CTCP PING? < 1675516074 215842 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Vorpal: burn in hell < 1675516083 859394 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: whoa! calm down there < 1675516084 130520 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Vorpal: i got version 360, i'm not sure what would be the < 1675516368 768698 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, I don't think it has any CTCP replies. < 1675516461 718273 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: what model is it using atm? < 1675516465 432379 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I forgot how to check < 1675516484 196405 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^style < 1675516484 906657 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube < 1675516496 18620 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah < 1675516537 753267 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :also something weird is going on with my speakers. Seem to be glitchy, Only when I put pressure on the connector do I get sound on the left side. < 1675516553 421325 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess it is time to dig out the soldering iron. Probably a cracked solder joint < 1675516746 998708 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.54 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675516971 700044 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-230-207.bredband.tele2.se JOIN #esolangs olsner :Got ZNC? < 1675518569 664276 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.54 QUIT :Quit: See You Space Cowboy > 1675518651 757714 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106646&oldid=104205 5* 03B jonas 5* (+74) 10+optimizing compiler by Vorpal < 1675519438 936714 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :" we have a guy with a (subset of) C to bf compiler" => don't we have like two or three? one of whom programmed machines in a casino with it and only gave the bf code or some silly story like that? < 1675519529 812766 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"It abstracted locks as borrowing books from a library iirc" => is that like the perl maintainer pumpkin? < 1675519573 404396 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"starvation only happens if you pick up forks" => there are other ways to starve, but sure < 1675519596 344839 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :library books work because the library has a fixed time limit after which you have to return the books even if you haven't been able to used them < 1675519899 783951 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :[15:05] "It abstracted locks as borrowing books from a library iirc" => is that like the perl maintainer pumpkin? <--- don't know perl, no idea < 1675519938 483892 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :huh, I could not see any cracks, but resoldered anyway. Seems to have fixed the issue < 1675519993 715952 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I don't remember how the books/library was supposed to work, but that part of the code was never implemented. And I can't find the spec < 1675520134 488098 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs > 1675520426 773339 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vorpal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106647&oldid=22878 5* 03Vorpal 5* (+146) 10Update my user page. It was super outdated. < 1675520860 53471 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Vorpal: I want to specify a small part of an optional multithreading extension for Consumer society. I don't want to specify or implement creating threads or specify what kind of threads they are, so this isn't really an answer. What I do want is specify an optional feature that lets you easily implement functions like the ones in the arithmetic library (you know, adding or multiplying or comparing < 1675520866 62771 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :integers) as threadsafe, because the most obvious implementation isn't threadsafe. This counts as an optional extension because the core language is tiny, but it's a really small one, trivial to implement in a single-threaded implementation, and almost certainly very easy to implement in any multithreading implementation, but it needs support from the multithreading extension, you can't just implement < 1675520872 72107 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it portably without knowing how the threading works, which is why I want to specify it. < 1675520908 452836 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Technically you can also implement thread-safe arithmetic functions without this extension, but it would be more complicated and likely have worse performance.) < 1675521080 389416 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :not familiar with this language < 1675521130 632153 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I can't find "Consumer society" on esolangs. Any link to it? < 1675521277 64650 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"calculus of communicating systems and communicating sequential processes' => isn't CSP constraint satisfaction problem? < 1675521320 757151 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hm, what about an esolang where things are found at addresses? As in "load variable from Main Street 142 using a pickup truck". And you have to care about distance to the CPU address, and avoid traffic congestion? Multi threading could be multiple CPU building at different addresses that load and store things independently < 1675521329 963178 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: TLAs are overloaded < 1675521419 785347 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh and atomic operations could be done by things like "send package to Side Street 12, if already full, leave package with neighbour to the left" < 1675521433 958091 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :this avoids overwriting existing memory < 1675521472 222597 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I imagine the syntax would be this sort of very high level English looking thing. Probably with optional words allowed to make it sound more natural < 1675521509 877144 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :" I kind of want to come up with some interesting multi-threaded turing tarpit that uses shared memory now" => yeah, maybe Consumer society will help in that, as in you can invent a suitable threading model over it < 1675521513 786575 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :You would basically need a map to be able to program this < 1675521529 842192 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: again as I said, I could not find that. Could you provide a link to it? < 1675521540 450694 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :or are you just reading scrollback and ignoring new messages? < 1675521575 710435 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway I will be leaving shortly, so it would perhaps be better for you to jump ahead and answer recent questions first instead < 1675521761 219774 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :1630811154 544040 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Consumer Society doesn't have a wiki page because I haven't published its definition yet and I didn't want to create a completely useless stub < 1675521774 206766 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh I didn't see that < 1675521790 554697 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :eh that's a message from 2021-09-05 < 1675521791 393345 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :;) < 1675521800 607763 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: oh well, duh < 1675521802 584282 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I suspect it's still up-to-date < 1675521850 123123 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway. I like the idea of an esolang based on driving instructions for package delivery/pickup. Where you have to factor in the time it takes to move between addresses. And traffic congestion matters. < 1675521865 273798 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe ditch the CPU buildings, and do all computations in the driving instructions < 1675521929 275078 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: another idea for concurrency in esolangs: Look at VHDL/Verilog. Where everything is concurrent, and sequential is kind of hard < 1675521937 999965 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe someone could steal that for an esolang < 1675521961 955737 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is all about electrical signals and states < 1675522068 748959 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :for the package delivery esolang I imagine the implementation will basically run a simulation at some granularity t (e.g. 10 seconds at a time). So it will be abstracted over. Not an actual traffic simulation. < 1675522101 753231 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :Now I wonder if you can do computation in actual multi-agent traffic simulations based on the interaction between "things" (car, people, etc) in the simulation. < 1675522127 581668 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean, fizzie did and/or gates etc in OpenTTD iirc. So why not < 1675522134 567783 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not even sure what actual threading model a multi-threading Consumer society should have. Maybe there's more than one good one, maybe there's none. I just wanted to know that if I specify the arithmetic library I don't write myself into a corner where you have to throw the whole thing out for multithreading. < 1675522170 373223 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: it would be very helpful to know what the heck Consumer society actually *was* to be able to follow this < 1675522178 523045 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, leaving now. See you. < 1675522184 556737 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1675522317 369342 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :" Though I guess you can also, alternatively, simulate counters." => would that involve n threads when the value of the counter is n? < 1675523121 152238 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Kind of weird for a language where the only error you can make is mismatched brackets." => isn't running off the left of the tape <+ an error, though supported as an extension in some impls? < 1675523158 213926 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :an right, Vorpal says that a few lines later < 1675523561 987142 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: re fungot and twitter, if fungot was already a member of the EU or UK parliament then you could just rely on other people tweeting what interesting things he said in the parliament. but if he's not already a member then he won't be able to campaign without twitter, so that's hard to solve. < 1675523562 445439 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: oh. hm. so there should be a breeze then. g x returns 3 fnord i have: fnord/ archives/ fnord < 1675523630 703212 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"how am I still connected to irc? I have 60% packet loss, and varying responsehow am I still connected to irc? I have 60% packet loss, and varying response times" => by the magic of TCP/IP. < 1675523712 250525 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Vorpal: "don't know perl, no idea" => the pumpkin is described in https://perldoc.perl.org/perlhist#PUMPKIN? < 1675523812 668417 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :` b_jonas: I can't find "Consumer society" on esolangs. Any link to it?' => there is none, because I haven't released it yet. it's one I've been planning to make for a few years, and the core language is now stabilized but I'm trying to keep it a secret, and my constant fear that someone else discovers the core lanugage before me hasn't yet overcome my lazyness in making it a full language (with < 1675523814 662776 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​? No such file or directory < 1675523818 682368 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :documentation, library, implementation, example programs, etc) and publishing it < 1675523944 91530 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :" You would basically need a map to be able to program this" => Mornington Crescent… < 1675523958 909668 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :" or are you just reading scrollback and ignoring new messages?" => yes, I'm still reading scrollback < 1675524099 273706 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no longer, I caught upp < 1675524550 917873 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :what's the earliest computer program we know of that was first published in Europe and when was it published? 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https://znc.in > 1675609432 974432 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Piechicken2014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106667&oldid=106652 5* 03Piechicken20 5* (-228) 10 < 1675611569 129566 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal JOIN #esolangs Vorpal :Vorpal < 1675612566 248630 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: hm, I had forgot about Mornington Cresent. My idea had different semantics though. All the logic would be done via conditional instructions to drivers. And all drivers would operate at the same time, possibly causing traffic jams. And I had some other ideas to make the language... challenging... to program in. > 1675616157 867096 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Binary Brainfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106668&oldid=106665 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+223) 10Add categories < 1675620152 832337 :op_4!~op_4@user/op-4/x-9116473 JOIN #esolangs op_4 :op_4 < 1675620713 289146 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1675623492 521319 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, when did `top` add a `hh,mm` display format for the run time? I'm used to seeing stuff like 1440:00 there... (Debian unstable, procps-ng 4.0.2 ...maybe it's a 4.0 thing?) < 1675623691 448236 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I haven't used top in decades? I found htop and then never looked back < 1675623928 602981 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION shrugs
< 1675624371 193026 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't see the appeal. < 1675625382 763606 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I might switch if `top` starts to annoy me more but I don't think this poor choice of time formats (they do DD+HH as well) is enough to push me over the edge. < 1675625792 161805 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675626687 48969 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675626807 844423 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :htop just is easier to read for me < 1675626828 97557 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it has sane coloured defaults. Plus nice features like press s to strace a running process < 1675626897 253073 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"easier to read" is a function of familiarity. And I never found colors appealing. < 1675626911 9240 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The strace is cute I suppose. < 1675626938 163842 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I saw that there's a monochrome color setup but it's ugly. < 1675626946 251154 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION shrugs.
< 1675626983 8498 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And the `top` hotkeys don't work. Not surprising; again, familiarity is the main factor here. > 1675627835 515855 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106669&oldid=106540 5* 03Fancryer 5* (-18) 10 > 1675628013 799873 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106670&oldid=106669 5* 03Fancryer 5* (+1065) 10/* Examples */ > 1675628072 795781 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106671&oldid=106670 5* 03Fancryer 5* (+18) 10/* Examples */ < 1675628168 204275 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675628583 310585 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a03:2260:300c:400:61bd:fe2e:1f3c:b90a QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675628901 989950 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675629397 767853 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a03:2260:300c:400:d115:ecfe:1ef4:7596 JOIN #esolangs * :Thelie > 1675629532 419842 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Phoneboard14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106672&oldid=96390 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+198) 10Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Phoneboard programming language on GitHub and added the category tag Implemented. > 1675629609 137015 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Phoneboard14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106673&oldid=106672 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+336) 10Reformatted the introductory section and the instruction table and amended a few orthographic mistakes. > 1675629900 66103 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Phoneboard14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106674&oldid=106673 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+228) 10Added an examples section with two initial members, the first being an infinite cat program, the second constituting a truth-machine. > 1675630012 177553 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Phoneboard14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106675&oldid=106674 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+89) 10Subsumed the instructions into a section of their own. < 1675630022 956532 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: different set of hotkeys, but I think you can rebind < 1675630061 502353 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :meh it doesn't seem worth the trouble < 1675630063 9843 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :also it has mouse support in terminals that support that. Good for features you use rarely and thus don't have to remember < 1675630118 854602 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :that is my main issue with things like i3: too many things I use very rarely, that it wants me to remember the key binding for < 1675630217 897462 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1675630227 181793 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll learn key bindings for the things I use. But for the options I touch once a month or less, it is great having a discoverable way to find it, be it via mouse clicks (sorting on weird columns in htop) or showing some tips along the bottom of the screen (nano and htop both do this), or perhaps having some sort of command palette that is search as you type. Many modern editors do this (sublime, vscode, pycharm, ...) < 1675630246 528887 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675630394 629223 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: also colour helps the eye find information quickly. This has been shown in numerous scientific studies. We are way faster at picking out something that has a different colour than something that has a different shape. So when htop highlights abnormal heap RSS values in red, it is useful. And you can set it up to grey out threads from other users etc, which also helps readability and parsability. < 1675630453 153089 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: will this sales pitch ever end? < 1675630453 463714 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: " foobar" as " hasis". < 1675630490 751636 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Vorpal: I sort by resident size if I care about memory usage. < 1675631092 109112 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1675631136 532454 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675631779 355879 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1675632100 94018 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@user/Vorpal PART #esolangs :Konversation terminated! < 1675632125 530527 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675632511 314191 :immibis_!~immibis@2a02:3032:e:27ab:afc5:8316:46a3:4579 JOIN #esolangs immibis :realname < 1675633275 96626 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1675633544 528213 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675634019 968672 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown > 1675634897 200013 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Stackylogic14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106676&oldid=61930 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+68) 10Categories < 1675634979 923114 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1675635021 530569 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675636005 93622 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1675639559 787323 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675641559 760889 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a03:2260:300c:400:d115:ecfe:1ef4:7596 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds > 1675642405 617506 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106677&oldid=106661 5* 03McChuck 5* (-4) 10/* Example programs */ < 1675643900 510868 :genpaku!~gen@107.191.100.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675644282 408162 :genpaku!~gen@107.191.100.185 JOIN #esolangs genpaku :paku < 1675646949 323420 :Soni!~quassel@autistic.space QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675646954 833949 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1675647132 857771 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron < 1675647303 389913 :genpaku!~gen@107.191.100.185 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1675647584 541302 :genpaku!~gen@107.191.100.185 JOIN #esolangs genpaku :paku < 1675647829 306754 :immibis_!~immibis@2a02:3032:e:27ab:afc5:8316:46a3:4579 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675647848 775517 :immibis_!~immibis@2a02:3032:b:f4d3:9e9:21d3:6eaf:3f9d JOIN #esolangs immibis :realname < 1675648493 753741 :Soni!~quassel@autistic.space JOIN #esolangs SoniEx2 :Genders: Autgender, 💜🖤💚; Soni L. < 1675650080 57735 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1675650126 260244 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1675653090 778369 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that the best way to know about all of the commands is that they are documented, in the documentation. So, that is what I had did with programs I wrote; ensure all of the commands are documented. (I think it is not necessary to waste screen space with the commands, usually) > 1675656082 888252 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dis14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106678&oldid=49727 5* 03Pro465 5* (+326) 10/* Sample programs */ > 1675656170 125892 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dis14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106679&oldid=106678 5* 03Pro465 5* (+39) 10indent < 1675656282 675058 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675656294 873023 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron < 1675657587 286488 :craigo!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1675657643 60342 :craigo!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1675661151 884765 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1675661365 141591 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1675661511 778136 :immibis_!~immibis@2a02:3032:b:f4d3:9e9:21d3:6eaf:3f9d QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1675664427 855785 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1675666041 452735 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :They added a rule 315 to Magic: the Gathering for the "battle" type, but there is no explanation yet. I don't know why they added it if there are no rules for that type yet. (I would guess this allows you to choose "battle" if an effect requires you to choose a type, but it doesn't seem meaningful to be able to do this.) < 1675666683 455867 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm sure Reddit will come up with several theses worth of ideas of what it could be and then WotC can cherry-pick the mechanics they like the most. :-P < 1675666766 966679 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Card: "Choose your own battle. - Make up a set of rules surrounding the `battle` type. These rules will be in effect until the end of the game." < 1675666780 859243 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675666837 745007 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can hardly wait for the official rulings for that card. < 1675666866 915178 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess it should be expensive... and cost both black and blue mana. < 1675666879 647765 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :;-) < 1675667360 218026 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Heck they might add that type just to distract from their huge D&D loss the past month. < 1675667379 225296 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: do you like conspiracies? < 1675667379 921006 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: what did you change? it doens't look anything like brainfuck code, saying what the code was a quick hack < 1675667416 756706 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow, that's very coherent < 1675668405 531963 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675670156 37077 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675670656 74491 :craigo!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1675672437 357667 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz… < 1675679604 908330 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675682992 842395 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1675684937 513076 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1675685083 530750 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675685229 512449 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a JOIN #esolangs fungot :fungot-0.1 < 1675685247 781685 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Been a while since I last added a style, so thought I'd do one. < 1675685249 727658 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^style elon < 1675685249 777860 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Selected style: elon (tweets by Melon Husk) < 1675685254 269456 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: How's it going? < 1675685254 432994 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: of course of the year, i'm expecting 70% to 80% are past warranty to cover any fire damage even if due to initial splashdown or subsequent tip over and body color is the sun? it appears that what he is saying is untrue < 1675685287 708852 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think I got the model training parameters too good. < 1675688521 699973 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675688545 521784 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675689357 979973 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1675689391 296291 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1675692576 108500 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fire damage *and* splashdown > 1675692639 414652 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Clementine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106680&oldid=72510 5* 03Pro465 5* (+169) 10 > 1675692780 566752 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Clementine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106681&oldid=106680 5* 03Pro465 5* (+2) 10 > 1675694082 433111 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Binary Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106682&oldid=106668 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+2) 10 < 1675694620 222700 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz… < 1675726174 165343 :immibis_!~immibis@2a02:3032:204:fe13:7543:f9b9:f7ef:5b8a JOIN #esolangs immibis :realname < 1675727430 583784 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1675728685 454298 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I tried to get ChatGPT to divide by 0. It started out better this time than the last time I tried. https://sharegpt.com/c/7z2BDJg < 1675729714 203958 :immibis!~quassel@2a01:4f9:4a:4caf::2 JOIN #esolangs immibis :immibis via Quassel < 1675729738 728520 :immibis_!~immibis@2a02:3032:204:fe13:7543:f9b9:f7ef:5b8a QUIT :Quit: HexChat < 1675736535 243606 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1675736563 961310 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1675737936 138317 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675737954 534164 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675739564 122964 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675739571 105191 :chiselfu1e!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675742029 969341 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :My brother agreed with me that the rule for legendary instants/sorceries is no good and that my unofficial rule for ongoing phenomena/dungeons/Sagas is good. < 1675746293 902186 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :No good in the sense that it doesn't quite match up with legendary permanents? Or how? < 1675746308 554783 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I recently became willing to play MTG again. I don't think I am capable of staying away < 1675748167 849956 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1675748413 584266 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1675750426 900453 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1675751466 355067 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, it doesn't quite match up with legendary permanents. It means something different in this case so it isn't very good. < 1675751560 82667 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(The unofficial rule for ongoing though is more like the existing ongoing rule; it suppresses state-based actions that affect the object if it is not the source of any triggered ability or pending triggered ability.) > 1675753478 307931 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Queen14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106685&oldid=106684 5* 03Pro465 5* (+848) 10initial revision < 1675753550 157823 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675753817 862277 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can you make up any more Magic: the Gathering puzzles? I do not really intend to buy the cards and play the game, but I am interested in the puzzles. (And, if they published more books with them, then I might buy them, too; I do have one book) < 1675754115 115530 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675755479 113349 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not inventive enough to create puzzles, but I know there exists at least one website dedicated to MTG puzzles (possibilitystorm.com) < 1675755557 572189 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have made some puzzles before, and I have some ideas but haven't made them < 1675755776 401853 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(One puzzle that I made up involves that you have to concede, in order to win. I have a few other ideas involving such a thing, too.) < 1675755942 604898 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675756231 957438 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675756245 419878 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: I was wondering if the best way to play magic might just be to make a nostalgy format that uses old rules and old cards from the golden age of Magic. the bigger problem is, no two people will agree on when that was, everyone likes the time when they started playing and say that Magic was just getting worse after that. the smaller problem is that I don't have the Comprehensive rules and Oracle < 1675756251 428659 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :database going back that far in the past, the oldest I have is 2007-03 for cards and 2007-05 for rules. < 1675756268 291480 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think ideally I'd want between Dissension and Coldsnap > 1675756322 664601 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Queen14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106686&oldid=106685 5* 03Pro465 5* (+50) 10add cat example < 1675756428 1282 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :we could backport a few clearly good bugfixes from the future of course, such as the one bugfix that I'm responsible for back when Wizards was still running a forum and people working in Wizards read it; these days they closed the old style web forum and only communicate on Twitter or Snapchat or Tiktok or whatever the kids these days use < 1675756539 962587 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(bugfix was for how the offering keyword from Betrayers of Kamigawa interacts with hybrid mana in mana costs, that was previously unspecified) > 1675758444 497969 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Counterfish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106687&oldid=103455 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+4) 10clarify < 1675758461 542689 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^style < 1675758461 595536 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld elon* enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube < 1675758481 388620 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah not touching that < 1675758507 778327 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe if I wanted a horse, but I don't. > 1675758726 503299 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Counterfish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106688&oldid=106687 5* 03Salpynx 5* (-4) 10/* Copy (duplicate and add) a prime encoded 'virtual' register */ Unicode exponents < 1675759512 344539 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675759977 128883 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1675760056 717620 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Queen14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106689&oldid=106686 5* 03Pro465 5* (+296) 10/* Examples */ add hello world program > 1675761489 865044 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Queen14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106690&oldid=106689 5* 03Pro465 5* (+90) 10add categories > 1675761625 892877 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Queen14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106691&oldid=106690 5* 03Pro465 5* (+0) 10fix typo < 1675763712 159686 :A_Dragon!A_D@libera/staff/dragon QUIT :Ping timeout: 620 seconds < 1675764456 886388 :A_Dragon!A_D@libera/staff/dragon JOIN #esolangs ad :Roy Mustang, The Flame Alchemist < 1675764679 937112 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675764956 596074 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf JOIN #esolangs shachaf :Shachaf Ben-Kiki < 1675767052 294266 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1675767488 158322 :craigo!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1675768511 127327 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1675768522 180254 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :huh, you added a new elon style < 1675768652 248457 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, but it's not very good. < 1675768656 67532 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: Are you a good CEO? < 1675768656 214838 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: our best landing video to date, ai risk, our final invention of writing, is only 5500 years old, but as a weapon, so thats a reasonable question < 1675768743 533201 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's exactly 144 characters. I'm convinced. < 1675768759 749275 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should have a better way of evaluating the goodness of a model than just generating 20 or so lines from it and trusting my feelings, then I could tweak the training parameters. < 1675768797 299096 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I kind of suspect traditional language model performance metrics (perplexity, cross-entropy, ...) really measure how good it's for amusing people on IRC. < 1675768805 887949 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ don't < 1675769407 209174 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs SGautam :Siddharth Gautam < 1675769424 180844 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I still think you should make a model based on lolcatbible.com . I may even have a very old dump of it, prepared to contain only the relevant text that I extracted, that I gave you at some point. < 1675769498 562617 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"traditional language model performance metrics" => also they only work well if the corpus is large enough that you can divide it to two really disjoint sets (including no retweets that quote the text of a previous tweet ideally), and I don't know if your corpus is large enough for that < 1675770038 246942 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1675770086 541770 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It was 16349 tweets, of which I used 15k for the training set and 1349 for the held-out set, which the language model training tool I use wants for tuning the Kneser-Ney discounting. < 1675770137 127388 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1675770138 193176 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see < 1675770162 464333 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so that's about two megabytes < 1675770259 49124 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :To be honest, the Befunge implementation doesn't actually use the backoff probabilities of the generated model at all, and always picks the word from the highest-order n-gram set it can find for the current context. Which is just... incorrect, as far as the model goes. < 1675770370 511641 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well sure, but you don't want fungоt to be a really good language model anyway, that would lose his original personality < 1675770393 760860 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The manual for the tool I'm using says suitable size for the held-out set is "around 100 000 words/tokens", but I've only got 247309 in total. < 1675770520 193300 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1675772454 663524 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Leol22 5* 10New user account > 1675772509 866964 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106692&oldid=106662 5* 03Leol22 5* (+50) 10/* Introductions */ < 1675774127 475299 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675774840 133878 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas > 1675775187 202964 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106693&oldid=106663 5* 03Pro465 5* (+12) 10/* Q */ add Queen language < 1675775389 715325 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh joy! python 3.11 changes the function datetime.datetime.fromisoformat so it now accepts more formats, including the short ISO 8601 formats that lack the hyphen and colon separators, such as "20230207" or "20230207T1309", and the week number formats like "2023-W06-2". so far this makes sense. but wait! < 1675775492 598685 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :they also added some, uh, "reasonable extensions" to the formats that ISO 8601 allows, including that for the separator between the date and time, which should be "T" per ISO 8601, they now accept any one character. including a digit. which means dtm.datetime.fromisoformat("20230201013") is now parsed as if it was 2023-02-01T13, using the last zero < 1675775493 103510 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :as the separator. < 1675775592 573735 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's delightfully incompatible with perl's Date::Manip, which allows another "reasonable extension" which is omitting the separator between the date and time parts entirely, so  $d=Date::Manip::Date->new;$d->parse("20230201013"); parses that string as 2023-020T10:13, that is, day 20 in year 2023, after 10 o'clock, a different time. brilliant! < 1675775645 329614 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I side against python 3.11's datetime here, allowing a digit as the separator is stupid and error-prone, it will lead to at least silently missing errors. < 1675775660 144801 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure, accept some alternate separators instead of "T" if you wish, but not digits please < 1675775808 890570 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Date::Manip is a bit overzealous in parsing so I'm not sure whether you do want to allow no separator at all, but that's an inheritence from the Date::Manip 5 days when the module's internal date format was something like "2023020713:10:00" (plus maybe some timezone thing) < 1675776493 382432 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :.oO(there are fifteen different timestamp parsing modules with all different semantics. I know! I'll just make one timestamp parsing module that has the best semantics covering all use cases, and release it as free software!) < 1675777169 502712 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1675777410 748454 :craigo!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1675777855 99522 :craigo!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1675778528 883399 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675779297 165950 :Lymia!lymia@ayame.servers.aura.moe JOIN #esolangs Lymia :Lymia Aluysia < 1675780448 154759 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1675780451 483712 :simcop2387_!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1675780467 301982 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675780531 673472 :simcop2387_!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 NICK :simcop2387 < 1675780690 439997 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1675780914 121243 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -weuse Date::Manip::Date; $d = Date::Manip::Date->new; $d->parse("20230302122") or print $d->printf("%O = %KT%X\n"); # so I understand this one, it parses as year 2023, day of year 030, hour 21, minute 22 < 1675780915 739014 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :2023-01-30T21:22:00 = 2023-030T21:22:00 < 1675780929 688940 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -weuse Date::Manip::Date; $d = Date::Manip::Date->new; $d->parse("20230302922") or print $d->printf("%O = %KT%X\n"); # but where the heck does this come from? < 1675780931 591351 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :2664-03-05T15:17:33 = 2664-065T15:17:33 < 1675780967 33134 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -weuse Date::Manip::Date; $d = Date::Manip::Date->new; print $d->version(1); # for the record < 1675780968 482938 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :6.76 [utc] < 1675781765 675916 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :20230302922 seconds since January 1, 1970? < 1675781769 168668 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` date --date=@20230302922 < 1675781809 867553 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Mon Jan 28 00:35:22 UTC 2611 < 1675781821 27446 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm. Well, right century, but not quite. < 1675781857 981909 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I was thinking of that, but it doesn't seem like it. for that, Date::Manip wants the format "epoch 20230302922", and in any case the numbers just don't match < 1675781883 609301 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` date --date=@$(( $(date +%s) + 20230302922 )) < 1675781884 839007 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sat Mar 5 15:33:26 UTC 2664 < 1675781888 116661 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`dateu @20230302922 < 1675781888 926513 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :2611-01-28 00:35:22.000 +0000 UTC January 28 Monday 2611-W05-1 < 1675781894 289449 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is what I use by the way < 1675781899 554141 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :20230302922 seconds after the current time seems to be a pretty good match ^ < 1675781907 48759 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` date +%s -d "@20230302922 " < 1675781908 65141 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :20230302922 < 1675781962 841599 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :huh... < 1675781985 661232 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`dateu now +202303022922sec < 1675781987 123179 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :8433-10-30 19:08:28.528 +0000 UTC October 30 Sunday 8433-W43-7 < 1675782001 312830 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`dateu now +20230302292sec < 1675782002 932122 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :2664-03-05 15:24:54.125 +0000 UTC March 5 Saturday 2664-W09-6 < 1675782006 364713 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`dateu now +20230302922sec < 1675782007 612993 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :2664-03-05 15:35:29.077 +0000 UTC March 5 Saturday 2664-W09-6 < 1675782011 710019 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that, yes < 1675782015 14524 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :odd < 1675782023 949974 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1675782040 255960 :moony1!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN #esolangs moony :Kaylie! (she/her) < 1675782082 565903 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator JOIN #esolangs Bowserinator :No VPS :( < 1675782087 565699 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN #esolangs iovoid :


 < 1675782130 629814 :moony1!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony NICK :moony < 1675782190 269007 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -weuse Date::Manip::Date; $d = Date::Manip::Date->new; $d->parse("20230302922") and die; $n = $d->new("now"); print $d->printf("%O; "), $n->printf("%O; "), $n->calc($d)->printf("%sys; "); < 1675782192 382700 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :2664-03-05T15:38:33; 2023-02-07T15:03:11; 20230302922; < 1675782212 77901 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :> Most valid deltas can be used to specify a date, and the date is defined as that delta added to "now". Refer to the Date::Manip::Delta documentation for a list of valid delta formats. < 1675782213 462665 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : :1:48: error: parse error on input ‘,’ < 1675782237 82165 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Should remember not to use > for quoting here. < 1675782239 238093 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :indeed it's the number of seconds from now. that's odd. I'll check on a later version of Date::Manip and perl later, just to be sure, and if it still does that, I'll ask Sbeck < 1675782279 42290 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think the logic is that it's a valid delta (a Date::Manip::Delta string can omit the word "seconds" and have just the one field), so that's how it gets parsed as. < 1675782308 889748 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure, but it's still inconsistent with how 20230302122 is parsed < 1675782397 822308 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also this is funny because now 20230302122 can mean three different times: 2023-030T21:22 (Date::Manip's preference), now plus 20230302122 seconds, or 2023-03-02T22:00 < 1675782419 213260 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though I still think the last one, python 3.11's interpretation, is just a straight up bug < 1675782516 730589 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is now definitely esoteric territory by the way < 1675782604 365162 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Mhm, right. Well, it can't parse 20230302922 the same way it parsed 20230302122 (because it'd be hour 29), so it... falls back to interpreting it as a delta? Something like that. Sounds like one of these things where the implementation is the specification. < 1675782971 713289 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -weuse Date::Manip::Date; $d = Date::Manip::Date->new; $n = $d->new("now"); for $s (20230228..20230232) { print"$s => "; if ($d->parse($s)) { print "parse error: ", $d->err, "\n"; } else { print $d->printf("%O = %KT%X = "), $n->calc($d)->printf("now+%syssec\n"); } } < 1675782973 515330 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :20230228 => 2023-02-28T00:00:00 = 2023-059T00:00:00 = now+1759428sec \ 20230229 => parse error: [parse] Invalid date \ 20230230 => parse error: [parse] Invalid date \ 20230231 => parse error: [parse] Invalid date \ 20230232 => 2023-09-29T18:46:45 = 2023-272T18:46:45 = now+20230233sec < 1675782986 450490 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ delightful, it occurs even for 8-digit and 10-digit strings < 1675783034 417358 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -weuse Date::Manip::Date; $d = Date::Manip::Date->new; $n = $d->new("now"); for $s (20230430..20230432) { print"$s => "; if ($d->parse($s)) { print "parse error: ", $d->err, "\n"; } else { print $d->printf("%O = %KT%X = "), $n->calc($d)->printf("now+%syssec\n"); } } < 1675783036 262761 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :20230430 => 2023-04-30T00:00:00 = 2023-120T00:00:00 = now+7029765sec \ 20230431 => parse error: [parse] Invalid date \ 20230432 => 2023-09-29T18:51:07 = 2023-272T18:51:07 = now+20230432sec < 1675783088 185740 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :20230430 is a valid date meaning 2023-04-30 as exected; 20230431 is invalid because 2023-04 does not have a month 31, and 2023-04-32 means now +20230432 seconds < 1675783383 657098 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -weuse Date::Manip::Date; $d = Date::Manip::Date->new(); $n = $d->new("now"); $s = "201612312359"; for $_r (0..2) { $u = "$s UTC"; print"$u => "; if ($d->parse($u)) { print "parse error: ", $d->err, "\n"; } else { print $d->printf("%O = "), $n->calc($d)->printf("now+%syssec\n"); } $s++ } < 1675783385 366680 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :201612312359 UTC => 2016-12-31T23:59:00 = now+-192554644sec \ 201612312360 UTC => 8411-12-11T11:29:04 = now+201612312360sec \ 201612312361 UTC => 8411-12-11T11:29:05 = now+201612312361sec < 1675783485 423466 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ that's got to be a bug, right? 2016-12-31T23:60 UTC was a real leap second, so even if you don't handle leap seconds, 201612312360 should be parsed correctly as some time around 2016-12-31T23:60, right? assuming, as Date::Manip documents, that the T can be omitted < 1675783521 269889 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or hmm < 1675783527 235843 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that would be a leap minute, which is invalid < 1675783537 705102 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -weuse Date::Manip::Date; $d = Date::Manip::Date->new(); $n = $d->new("now"); $s = "20161231235959"; for $_r (0..2) { $u = "$s UTC"; print"$u => "; if ($d->parse($u)) { print "parse error: ", $d->err, "\n"; } else { print $d->printf("%O = "), $n->calc($d)->printf("now+%syssec\n"); } $s++ } < 1675783539 473771 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :20161231235959 UTC => 2016-12-31T23:59:59 = now+-192554739sec \ 20161231235960 UTC => parse error: [parse] Delta too large \ 20161231235961 UTC => parse error: [parse] Delta too large < 1675783566 622644 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but even 20161231235960 UTC, which should be a leap second, isn't parsed right < 1675783689 718963 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, the previous thing still applies. I'll have to test with a later version of Date::Manip, and unless that clears up everything (unlikely based on the Changes documents) I'll have to mail Sbeck < 1675784535 118958 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean even if it's not a bug, it should be documented as a caveat you have to be careful about, or in the changelogs as fixed < 1675784899 829581 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1675785422 687676 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1675785728 466311 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Queen14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106694&oldid=106691 5* 03Pro465 5* (+129) 10/* Examples */ add truth machine program < 1675787274 713824 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675787869 920252 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1675788166 542566 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Binary Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106695&oldid=106682 5* 03Bbf 5* (+294) 10/* Commands */ > 1675788199 747684 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Binary Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106696&oldid=106666 5* 03Bbf 5* (-79) 10Blanked the page > 1675788332 427396 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Binary Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106697&oldid=106695 5* 03Bbf 5* (+13) 10/* Hello World! Script */ > 1675788422 508955 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Binary Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106698&oldid=106697 5* 03Bbf 5* (+2) 10/* Hello World! Script */ < 1675790281 533111 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1675790502 831808 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Binary Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106699&oldid=106698 5* 03Bbf 5* (+113) 10/* Hello World! Script */ < 1675791263 971204 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :We could try to work to write rules for playing a old style game if wanted, with some newer corrections too. I do have some ideas about how this could be done, although it would also require writing errata for some cards > 1675793387 933507 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TurtleDigits14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106700&oldid=94927 5* 03NikiTricky 5* (+74) 10Add more categories > 1675793754 892431 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106701&oldid=106677 5* 03McChuck 5* (+0) 10/* Example programs */ < 1675795032 149053 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1675798626 106238 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT/Concept Interpreter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106702&oldid=106631 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (-16) 10 < 1675803891 18920 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675806246 308429 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: wait, it gets better. Date::Manip parses 111111-11 as meaning 2011-11-11T11:00, which is documented. but 111111-55 is parsed as 2011-11-11T??:55 where the hour is taken from the current date but the minute is overwritten with 55. < 1675806280 117211 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I turned that to https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=11150225 > 1675806666 756834 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck Encoded Concatenative Calculus14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106703&oldid=103166 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+30) 10/* Computational class */ typo in `cat call` reduction > 1675810288 37900 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Falsish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106704&oldid=104788 5* 03McChuck 5* (+14) 10/* See also */ > 1675810343 902829 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106705&oldid=106701 5* 03McChuck 5* (+24) 10/* Features */ < 1675811971 308904 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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Can we turn it into an esolang? > 1675867928 766827 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106708&oldid=106671 5* 03Fancryer 5* (+833) 10/* Examples */ < 1675868923 233894 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675870608 986385 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1675871694 453927 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1675872457 748700 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.0.210 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675873235 512107 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1675873562 533401 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse > 1675875179 597163 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Asicosilomu 5* 10New user account < 1675876272 537687 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.0.210 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1675876292 515750 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106709&oldid=106692 5* 03Asicosilomu 5* (+207) 10 < 1675876769 857868 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675876795 738668 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :GregorR: date parsing without locales definitely isn't Turing-complete. but Date::Manip allows the user to define new time zones, recurrences, and sets of holidays (to do calculations like adding a given number of business days). I never used those features and I don't know much about how those work, whether they have something Turing-complete in them, or indeed whether they allow the definitions to < 1675876802 32441 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :call back to the perl environment < 1675876822 87969 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :as for "Can we tur it into an esolang?" yes, by doing nothing. Date::Manip's date parsing is already an esolang. < 1675878100 46394 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :cursed idea: language with time-based jumps < 1675878121 312370 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :"goto -10" jumps to the line that was being executed 10µs ago < 1675878568 888638 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675880189 163686 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sknebel: that is easy enough when you only want to jump backwards for loops or return from subroutines: you save the time at the start of the loop or the call site, then subtract the current time and jump that way. it gets funnier when you want to jump forward in time for conditionals or call subroutines. you have to somehow guess how long the section of the code that you want to not execute would take < 1675880195 276029 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :to jump after it. < 1675880232 693176 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the typical method would be to put a launch pad after the section, make the launch pad just a sleep that's much longer than how much time the skippable section takes, and jump comfortably into the middle of that. < 1675880426 267317 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah. For some cases you could do speculative execution style, but not for everything < 1675880625 45695 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you'll probably need landing pads of exponentially growing duration for multiple nested conditionals < 1675880630 997292 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :which doesn't bode well if you want conditionals < 1675880647 979084 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :this sounds like something an Intercal dialect might want to do < 1675880747 836319 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1675880942 233920 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106710&oldid=106705 5* 03McChuck 5* (+83) 10/* Example programs */ > 1675880998 368278 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106711&oldid=106710 5* 03McChuck 5* (+1) 10/* Example programs */ > 1675881087 982890 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106712&oldid=106711 5* 03McChuck 5* (+2) 10/* Example programs */ < 1675881116 150181 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :DO ABSTAIN FROM CALCULATING + NEXTING + RESUMING + COMING FROM + ... + ABSTAINING + REINSTATING FOR :1 JIFFIES < 1675881146 403977 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's a time travel fingerprint ("TRDS") for Befunge-98. But a jump to the future with it isn't "jump to where execution would have ended up", it's just in relationship to time as it exists for the other threads of execution. < 1675881148 362812 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :http://www.rcfunge98.com/rcsfingers.html#TRDS > 1675881161 454781 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106713&oldid=106712 5* 03McChuck 5* (-10) 10/* Example programs */ < 1675881234 407460 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: so future time travel is a sleep? < 1675881312 989252 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean if I had to implement actual time travel, rather than going to in time, then I'd just make it a sleep for future time travel, and a loop of a long sleep followed by reloading the time travel dynamic library for past time travel (hopefully at some point we get a time machine working and replace the library with one that uses it for backwards time travel) < 1675881351 901949 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, future time travel is effectively a sleep. < 1675881483 227801 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :right, digital computers just handle it worse than humans. there are humans who have lived for over 100 years, but no digital computer that we have today can last for that long. but then we can probably ensure that the program is live migratable to another computer, possibly one that has to emulate a long dead ancient system < 1675881820 376611 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the retrocomputing folks do crazy emulators for old hardware, including simulators that simulate every transistor or other basic component of at least two old CPUs, to make sure that even most weird CPU bugs are simulated > 1675882413 745321 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106714&oldid=106713 5* 03McChuck 5* (+142) 10# starship operator > 1675882449 523790 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106715&oldid=106714 5* 03McChuck 5* (+36) 10/* Example programs */ > 1675882909 656938 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106716&oldid=106715 5* 03McChuck 5* (+16) 10/* Example programs */ > 1675882998 213936 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106717&oldid=106716 5* 03McChuck 5* (+0) 10/* Example programs */ < 1675883010 149420 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1675883474 515936 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106718&oldid=106717 5* 03McChuck 5* (+1) 10/* Example programs */ > 1675883952 239767 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106719&oldid=106718 5* 03McChuck 5* (+2) 10/* Example programs */ > 1675884168 950966 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WTFCode14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106720 5* 03Asicosilomu 5* (+9980) 10Created this page > 1675884228 825454 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106721&oldid=106693 5* 03Asicosilomu 5* (+14) 10Add WTFCode > 1675884405 705609 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WTFCode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106722&oldid=106720 5* 03Asicosilomu 5* (+1) 10Correct return value < 1675885467 480096 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The other idea other than Magic: the Gathering is we can make up our own card game; I have a few ideas. < 1675885737 289805 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675885757 407500 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca JOIN #esolangs zzo38 :zzo38 < 1675887568 19375 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675887788 23499 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1675889122 841570 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106723&oldid=106719 5* 03McChuck 5* (-193) 10/* Example programs */ < 1675889594 766235 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :have you played mindbug? < 1675891310 778868 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have not heard of that. < 1675892787 219263 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1675896009 129562 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106724&oldid=106723 5* 03McChuck 5* (+625) 10/* Example programs */ > 1675896052 211474 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106725&oldid=106724 5* 03McChuck 5* (+1) 10/* Example programs */ > 1675896170 675539 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106726&oldid=106725 5* 03McChuck 5* (+70) 10/* Example programs */ > 1675896325 871910 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106727&oldid=106726 5* 03McChuck 5* (+134) 10/* Example programs */ < 1675897928 382060 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1675898452 80390 :craigo!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1675899283 270496 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675901842 768644 :stmuk!~steve@15.43.187.81.in-addr.arpa QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1675901882 587123 :stmuk!~steve@15.43.187.81.in-addr.arpa JOIN #esolangs * :steve < 1675902096 154161 :craigo!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net CHGHOST ~craigo :user/craigo < 1675902243 331774 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1675905823 515614 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106728&oldid=106658 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+2176) 10Partially document changes (views will be explained soon) < 1675906960 707229 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.2 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime > 1675908516 906581 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106729&oldid=106721 5* 03DevBadger 5* (+14) 10Add CatCode < 1675909409 971491 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1675909433 624805 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1675909518 131948 :haavard!root@haavard.me QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675910213 586321 :haavard!root@haavard.me JOIN #esolangs haavard :Håvard Pettersson > 1675910779 275060 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106730&oldid=106728 5* 03LyricLy 5* (-5) 10skip singles -> from single < 1675912119 460636 :stmuk_!~steve@15.43.187.81.in-addr.arpa JOIN #esolangs * :steve < 1675912158 672995 :perlbot_!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1675912242 879535 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN #esolangs * :Shachaf Ben-Kiki < 1675912541 59063 :JAA_!~JAA@user/jaa JOIN #esolangs JAA :JustAnotherArchivist < 1675912549 223392 :haavard!root@haavard.me QUIT :*.net *.split < 1675912549 230977 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1675912549 251735 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.2 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1675912549 301318 :stmuk!~steve@15.43.187.81.in-addr.arpa QUIT :*.net *.split < 1675912549 545266 :JAA!~JAA@user/jaa QUIT :*.net *.split < 1675912549 627062 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1675912549 901932 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1675912549 901959 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator QUIT :*.net *.split < 1675912549 901966 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :*.net *.split < 1675912549 928673 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf QUIT :*.net *.split < 1675912549 928698 :A_Dragon!A_D@libera/staff/dragon QUIT :*.net *.split < 1675912553 736756 :perlbot_!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot NICK :perlbot < 1675912817 485355 :JAA_!~JAA@user/jaa NICK :JAA < 1675913230 967771 :haavard!root@haavard.me JOIN #esolangs haavard :Håvard Pettersson < 1675913230 967990 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1675913230 968004 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.2 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675913231 14281 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1675913231 14311 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN #esolangs iovoid :


 < 1675913231 14326 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator JOIN #esolangs Bowserinator :No VPS :( < 1675913231 14348 :A_Dragon!A_D@libera/staff/dragon JOIN #esolangs ad :Roy Mustang, The Flame Alchemist < 1675913282 398891 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1675913485 158656 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1675913992 685053 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com CHGHOST ~shachaf :user/shachaf < 1675913995 317905 :shachaf_!~shachaf@user/shachaf NICK :shachaf < 1675914610 182866 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675916043 562014 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1675917039 552677 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-6-199.monradsl.monornet.hu JOIN #esolangs * :b_jonas < 1675917675 557019 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-6-199.monradsl.monornet.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1675917687 255538 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu JOIN #esolangs * :b_jonas < 1675917964 587189 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.2 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675923082 31512 :chiselfu1e!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675923104 510525 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1675924796 435169 :chiselfu1e!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675924821 525898 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675925766 940379 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675925784 529423 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675927835 714891 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.2 QUIT :Quit: See You Space Cowboy < 1675928559 286081 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1675929565 622435 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675929746 515466 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1675929877 530047 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675935159 703784 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675938483 798547 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675939692 835994 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675939893 661899 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675940383 603070 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1675940479 749980 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675940630 588599 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675940892 526723 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs > 1675942476 380489 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Capsule14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106731 5* 03Leol22 5* (+432) 10Created page with "==Capsule== Capsule is an esoteric programming language featuring an 8*8 grid of integers and two stacks. Its orignal compiler was made in C# by [[Leol22]]. ==Computational Class== Capsule was proven Turing Complete after [[Brainfuck Encoded Concatenative Calculus]] was > 1675942657 322451 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Capsule14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106732&oldid=106731 5* 03Leol22 5* (+40) 10 > 1675942687 563015 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Capsule14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106733&oldid=106732 5* 03Leol22 5* (+60) 10 < 1675942895 138896 :Guest73!~Guest73@115.240.13.190 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Guest73 < 1675942951 620193 :Guest73!~Guest73@115.240.13.190 QUIT :Client Quit > 1675946723 10711 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03OniKrisNeptune 5* 10New user account < 1675951334 262829 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.2 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime > 1675951453 697043 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106734&oldid=106709 5* 03OniKrisNeptune 5* (+163) 10 < 1675953941 580901 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1675956239 563788 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1675956414 224273 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1675957610 519057 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1675957719 535034 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1675958303 321204 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.2.54 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675958305 223616 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1675958305 646855 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.2.54 NICK :razetime < 1675959243 328376 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.2.54 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675959259 258500 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.2.84 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675959882 513702 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1675960526 538201 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1675961062 137101 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.6.71 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675961093 225091 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.2.84 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1675961093 501470 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.6.71 NICK :razetime < 1675961391 770755 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs WeepingAngel :wpa < 1675961780 281772 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.174 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1675961812 131737 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.6.71 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675961812 470535 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.174 NICK :razetime < 1675963201 225572 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.174 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1675965928 587508 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz… < 1675983562 710528 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1675995871 101259 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1675995905 828073 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1675998299 515319 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1675998403 527829 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1676000840 148367 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.2.129 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676001815 821868 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs WeepingAngel :wpa < 1676002871 918081 :adfsman!~user@1.47.18.206 JOIN #esolangs * :unknown < 1676003245 696514 :adfsman!~user@1.47.18.206 QUIT :Quit: ERC 5.4 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 28.2) > 1676004165 288989 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106735&oldid=106730 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+3423) 10Document lenses > 1676004372 891098 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106736&oldid=106735 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+18) 10Reformat select drilling > 1676004586 922943 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106737&oldid=106736 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+1) 10pop -> take > 1676005297 607691 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106738&oldid=106737 5* 03LyricLy 5* (-3) 10s -> q > 1676005335 755941 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106739&oldid=106738 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+0) 10Whoops > 1676006315 108113 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106740&oldid=106708 5* 03Fancryer 5* (-51) 10/* Planned */ > 1676006657 207920 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106741&oldid=106740 5* 03Fancryer 5* (+326) 10/* String */ > 1676006717 78367 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106742&oldid=106741 5* 03Fancryer 5* (+52) 10/* String */ < 1676007807 993993 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.2.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1676008009 64479 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.69 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676008059 833977 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1676008243 608166 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1676011455 924877 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds > 1676012343 1755 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106743&oldid=106739 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+1) 10 < 1676015034 377809 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676015255 16290 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.69 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime > 1676015477 853396 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106744&oldid=106742 5* 03Fancryer 5* (+283) 10/* Hello world */ < 1676015643 632097 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1676017295 807734 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106745&oldid=106744 5* 03Fancryer 5* (+1) 10/* Service */ > 1676017398 240645 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106746&oldid=106745 5* 03Fancryer 5* (-175) 10/* Hello world */ < 1676017590 328588 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.69 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1676018099 828174 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106747&oldid=106746 5* 03Fancryer 5* (+276) 10/* 99 bottles of beer */ > 1676018462 427678 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106748&oldid=106747 5* 03Fancryer 5* (-1) 10 > 1676019101 841826 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106749&oldid=106748 5* 03Fancryer 5* (+3016) 10 > 1676019177 82929 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106750&oldid=106749 5* 03Fancryer 5* (+32) 10/* Constants */ < 1676020492 239507 :monoxane!~monoxane@user/monoxane QUIT :Quit: estoy fuera < 1676020617 149593 :monoxane!~monoxane@user/monoxane JOIN #esolangs monoxane :monoxane < 1676020720 81327 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676024376 236600 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I haven't played mindbug either, but I heard about it in this channel < 1676025524 632856 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1676026312 438450 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF instruction extension14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106751&oldid=71343 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+205) 10Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the brainfuck instruction extension project on GitHub. > 1676026341 736632 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF instruction extension14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106752&oldid=106751 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+137) 10Added categories to the page. > 1676026483 428101 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF instruction extension14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106753&oldid=106752 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+167) 10Introduced an examples section containing as its initial member a truth-machine program. > 1676026578 128317 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF instruction extension14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106754&oldid=106753 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+137) 10Added an infinitely repeating cat program as a second example. < 1676026711 977715 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1676034022 508964 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1676034839 409210 :GregorR!~GregorR@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esolangs :In a way, are esolangs not mind bugs? > 1676036380 780018 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF instruction extension14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106755&oldid=106754 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+14) 10Introduced a hyperlink to the brainfuck article in the preamble. < 1676037431 847686 :Cale!~cale@cpe80d04ade0a03-cm80d04ade0a01.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1676037675 201359 :Cale!~cale@cpe80d04ade0a03-cm80d04ade0a01.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN #esolangs Cale :realname < 1676039795 761000 :stmuk_!~steve@15.43.187.81.in-addr.arpa NICK :stmuk < 1676040009 901777 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676041191 874475 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676044026 701028 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1676046179 752180 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1676046194 448079 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1676046432 320672 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1676046462 584221 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1676047521 134339 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.69 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676047607 520478 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1676048036 263015 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :GregorR: well, this extends to ideas in general, maybe even just thoughts. < 1676048404 49846 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676048801 80478 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676049726 20930 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.69 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676050548 450599 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, all thoughts are mind bugs that cause us, who are supposed to be mere instinctual creatures, to often behave oddly < 1676051066 954519 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1676051132 172251 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106756&oldid=106750 5* 03Fancryer 5* (+3) 10/* Grammar */ < 1676051989 449298 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676052049 71077 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`ftoc 90 < 1676052051 123319 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :90.00°F = 32.22°C < 1676052067 501322 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a pretty good game. packs a lot of punch in that few cards < 1676052112 517066 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? context < 1676052114 330357 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :context is a word with many meanings, depending on where it is used. < 1676052115 856049 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :slightly related if people are into similar stuff: pocket paragon. season 2 will start soon > 1676052563 922644 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Coco33920 5* 10New user account > 1676052726 692339 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106757&oldid=106734 5* 03Coco33920 5* (+216) 10 > 1676052961 180484 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Coco3392014]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106758 5* 03Coco33920 5* (+181) 10Created page with "Hello, I'm Charlotte Thomas, a french functional developer, I prefer OCaml. You can find me on GitHub, Twitter, Discord, all is specified in my online website https://me.nwa2coco.fr" > 1676053468 949051 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Baguette14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106759 5* 03Coco33920 5* (+244) 10creation of the Baguette page < 1676054180 194485 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.214.253.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl JOIN #esolangs FreeFull :FreeFull < 1676054368 934793 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname > 1676054874 462354 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Baguette14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106760&oldid=106759 5* 03Coco33920 5* (+5049) 10 > 1676055086 140014 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Baguette14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106761&oldid=106760 5* 03Coco33920 5* (+677) 10 > 1676056438 390698 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106762&oldid=106729 5* 03Coco33920 5* (+15) 10add baguette language < 1676058036 799160 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1676060604 826528 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106763&oldid=106743 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+169) 10j drills now > 1676062727 918926 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106764&oldid=106763 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+131) 10Add c and make u an ender > 1676063090 91951 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106765&oldid=106764 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+5) 10 > 1676064442 85964 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106766&oldid=106765 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+1) 10_ pops a *group* > 1676064709 25865 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Baguette14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106767&oldid=106761 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+71) 10Categories < 1676066602 33201 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1676070004 785448 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1676070611 764617 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:HelloWorldGangHere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106768&oldid=105635 5* 03HelloWorldGangHere 5* (-49) 10 < 1676080598 64055 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676082272 101416 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1676082275 496430 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676082383 823718 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1676082412 677107 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 NICK :razetime < 1676082433 794699 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1676083119 459552 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1676084016 65376 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676084516 783804 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.214.253.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl QUIT : < 1676087551 947138 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1676088513 600238 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676088779 568521 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1676089823 304638 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3+b4 - https://znc.in < 1676089850 25907 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1676090593 54411 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676090789 744617 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 QUIT :Client Quit > 1676091617 166678 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106769&oldid=106762 5* 03Fancryer 5* (+11) 10/* G */ GAXT added < 1676094580 383306 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1676094669 34058 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676094727 274025 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1676095603 15620 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676099811 400375 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Someone mentioned (on here, I think) about Magic: the Gathering they think some changes are no good. I agree, but I also think that improvements haev been made, too. (For example, the rule for token naming, and for the Legend subtype, have been improved compared with the older rules, I think.) < 1676101626 377592 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676102103 860914 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676103239 836650 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1676104366 599373 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676104497 585812 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs WeepingAngel :wpa < 1676106271 950093 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1676106743 478717 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676107623 429611 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676108709 960466 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676109913 237366 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1676111780 828955 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1676112303 671402 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676113844 755813 :Lymia!lymia@ayame.servers.aura.moe QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1676113926 376662 :Lymia!lymia@ayame.servers.aura.moe JOIN #esolangs Lymia :Lymia Aluysia > 1676117080 985829 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GAXT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106770&oldid=106756 5* 03Fancryer 5* (+17) 10/* Grammar */ > 1676118155 825823 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Taitep 5* 10New user account > 1676118392 875178 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106771&oldid=106757 5* 03Taitep 5* (+167) 10 > 1676118459 69843 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106772&oldid=106771 5* 03Taitep 5* (-3) 10 < 1676118594 33804 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676119019 700206 :immibis!~quassel@2a01:4f9:4a:4caf::2 QUIT :Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. < 1676119029 849635 :immibis!~quassel@2a01:4f9:4a:4caf::2 JOIN #esolangs * :immibis via Quassel < 1676119513 574288 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu JOIN #esolangs * :b_jonas < 1676122305 43639 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1676122759 617410 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1676122820 40213 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1676126473 882611 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676127341 458093 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1676130347 211780 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676130359 58339 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676131163 893717 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676135683 568043 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676136313 249052 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.217 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1676138946 856524 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Okayako14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106773&oldid=96577 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+16) 10 > 1676138975 511261 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Okayako14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106774&oldid=106773 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+22) 10 < 1676143459 819921 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1676146710 200675 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh no, I just opened up my N-Step Steve thing after a long time and all my progress has been lost. < 1676146719 36121 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I was pretty close to having everything? < 1676147766 30791 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oops < 1676148899 994597 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1676149026 831924 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1676150645 954741 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: you had screenshots, but I forgot how much was missing. there were a couple of weird teleports left < 1676150705 311826 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: unfortunately https://slbkbs.org/tmp/su/steve.png is not very informative at this point < 1676155661 686842 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676155990 466197 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Try now. < 1676156577 440980 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1676161797 54233 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676163971 947221 :sprout!~quassel@2a02:a448:3a80:1:597b:c954:7905:c8b1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1676164010 784825 :sprout_!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-b8a4-69a6-39fb-6a83.fixed6.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs * :sprout < 1676166642 304345 :wpa!uid568065@2a03:5180:f:1::8:ab01 JOIN #esolangs WeepingAngel :wpa < 1676168744 860962 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1676168750 785543 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1676168821 444887 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1676169490 299334 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1676169730 634713 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: mine was https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/steve.png < 1676170234 969627 :Lymia!lymia@ayame.servers.aura.moe QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1676170306 301244 :Lymia!lymia@2600:3c01::f03c:92ff:feec:5051 JOIN #esolangs Lymia :Lymia Aluysia < 1676170606 981325 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh I guess you could check the logs for numbers < 1676170878 230475 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The latest report I see was Still at 18+27+19 < 1676171411 534210 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1676171497 918970 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1676172661 302291 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1676173098 452683 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron < 1676174940 17275 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I guess that's newer than the latest screenshot I took. < 1676175037 828150 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FWIW, the game was updated, but it's still served from the same server for me... (slightly different URL; I'm looking at the iframe's location) < 1676175261 727448 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: well, the difference is the "impossible" star that we both got basically at the same time < 1676175309 117588 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(at 14,19; you can see the star in your older screenshot) < 1676176204 24902 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, right. What was that star? < 1676176211 905442 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I remember now. < 1676176273 818358 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I still have my map but I'm reluctant to share it; it's spoilery because I used level screenshots rather than the telescope thingy. So you can see kittens entering. < 1676176301 667130 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or, in some cases, in strategically important places. < 1676176310 983604 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wish it wasn't a browser thing. < 1676176324 356260 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't have a save state. < 1676176325 629997 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know why it lost my state but it seems almost expected for that to happen. < 1676176363 893126 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, same here... probably worse because I routinely delete all that browser state. < 1676176638 867784 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm still torturing kissat. < 1676176657 627667 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Just to keep with the kitten theme.) < 1676176725 756087 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, what are you SAT-solving? < 1676176767 546887 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Pushing a bit at Ponder This < 1676176828 847459 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(which as far as I can see isn't quite in NP but close enough) < 1676176848 657593 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(the bonus problem for varying n, that is) < 1676177179 848032 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(It's not the most natural of problems, but it is interesting. I have no clue whether arbitrarily large solutions exist; the size works against that while the increasing number of kings works in favor, and the two factors seem to be fairly well balanced.) < 1676177232 38105 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also the largest solution I have is for n=81, not a huge number. < 1676179566 915537 :wpa!uid568065@2a03:5180:f:1::8:ab01 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1676180908 332892 :wpa!uid568065@2a03:5180:f:1::8:ab01 JOIN #esolangs WeepingAngel :wpa < 1676181202 790505 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1676181387 314325 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1676184269 563835 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1676184728 91872 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron > 1676185171 209126 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* 10New user account > 1676185489 581103 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106775&oldid=106772 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (+146) 10 > 1676187301 339463 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bundle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106776&oldid=104696 5* 03Gilbert189 5* (+4467) 10 > 1676187631 986614 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Quintopia14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106777&oldid=91253 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+14) 10 > 1676187668 7495 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Quintopia14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106778&oldid=106777 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-14) 10Undo revision 106777 by [[Special:Contributions/Quintopia|Quintopia]] ([[User talk:Quintopia|talk]]) < 1676189383 602302 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.1.13 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676192098 327706 :sprout_!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-b8a4-69a6-39fb-6a83.fixed6.kpn.net NICK :sprout < 1676195298 196050 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676195368 723999 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.1.13 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676204203 381264 :dyurko[m]!~dyurkohou@2001:470:69fc:105::3:16cd JOIN #esolangs * :@dyurko:houtworm.im < 1676208646 956637 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1676210321 710943 :ddccdd!~ddccdd@90.160.203.45 JOIN #esolangs * :ddccdd < 1676214007 103172 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.214.239.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl JOIN #esolangs FreeFull :FreeFull < 1676218464 547030 :ddccdd!~ddccdd@90.160.203.45 QUIT :Quit: Quit < 1676218727 347102 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.1.13 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676219192 661700 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu JOIN #esolangs * :b_jonas < 1676223003 948816 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.1.13 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676224563 458676 :ddccdd!~ddccdd@90.160.204.137 JOIN #esolangs * :ddccdd < 1676224875 700845 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1676225702 207401 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.214.239.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676228623 674712 :ddccdd!~ddccdd@90.160.204.137 QUIT :Quit: Quit < 1676232309 865455 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Was this place also error-correcting-code-land? I'm wondering about this: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/4637611/largest-number-of-shards-for-linear-erasure-codes-over-a-finite-field < 1676235681 943835 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: yes, we're occasionally that too < 1676235692 775120 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :feel free to change the topic < 1676237299 72309 :Cale!~cale@cpe80d04ade0a03-cm80d04ade0a01.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1676239382 329960 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1676239405 489031 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676239548 875318 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1676242174 446847 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676243881 531403 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1676243897 904735 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1676245165 960678 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106779 5* 03Proxxa 5* (+7297) 10Create a page for Tupilled, a Tuple-based language. > 1676245500 27651 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106780&oldid=106779 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (-298) 10 > 1676245711 414988 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106781&oldid=106780 5* 03Proxxa 5* (+336) 10/* Reserved Tokens */ > 1676245737 683509 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106782&oldid=106781 5* 03Proxxa 5* (-1) 10Typo > 1676245825 694907 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106783&oldid=106782 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (+163) 10/* Infixing */ > 1676245929 848488 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106784&oldid=106769 5* 03Proxxa 5* (+18) 10/* T */ Add Tuplepilled to the language list > 1676245941 912498 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106785&oldid=106783 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (+0) 10/* Input/Output */ > 1676245997 648088 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106786&oldid=106784 5* 03Proxxa 5* (-3) 10/* T */ The name of the language is Tupilled, not Tuplepilled. > 1676246747 100880 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106787&oldid=106785 5* 03Proxxa 5* (+115) 10/* Reverse Cat */ Expand categories > 1676246781 195544 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106788&oldid=106787 5* 03Proxxa 5* (+1) 10/* Reverse Cat */ Usability unkown? That's fun. < 1676249447 236157 :Soni!~quassel@autistic.space QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1676252882 79113 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.7.116 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676255117 321884 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1676255209 102595 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1676255537 407870 :silky!gilesgate@sdfeu.org QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1676260139 959582 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.7.116 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1676260800 411754 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 QUIT :Quit: I seem to have stopped. < 1676260869 160672 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 JOIN #esolangs Taneb :Nathan van Doorn < 1676262367 102577 :wpa!uid568065@2a03:5180:f:1::8:ab01 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1676262769 303607 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.7.116 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676266993 335127 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is Amycus numbering useful in other contexts? < 1676267523 435174 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1676267828 133875 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1676270694 501834 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676275188 263501 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676275357 294918 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.7.116 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1676276298 611437 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.7.116 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676277369 789941 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.7.116 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676277451 562404 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.7.116 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1676277451 949270 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.7.116 NICK :razetime < 1676277991 210479 :Soni!~quassel@autistic.space JOIN #esolangs SoniEx2 :Genders: Autgender, 💜🖤💚; Soni L. < 1676278873 419327 :dyurko[m]!~dyurkohou@2001:470:69fc:105::3:16cd QUIT :*.net *.split < 1676278873 924061 :orin!~oren@ec2-44-201-23-133.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1676278873 924110 :ProofTechnique!sid79547@id-79547.ilkley.irccloud.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1676278892 327911 :ProofTechnique!sid79547@2a03:5180:f:3::1:36bb JOIN #esolangs ProofTechnique :ptech < 1676278904 387790 :oren!~oren@44.201.23.133 JOIN #esolangs oren :Oren Watson < 1676278910 769075 :FireFly!~firefly@hagall.firefly.nu JOIN #esolangs * :firefly < 1676278913 790463 :FireFly!~firefly@hagall.firefly.nu CHGHOST ~firefly :glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly < 1676279183 129268 :dyurko[m]!~dyurkohou@2001:470:69fc:105::3:16cd JOIN #esolangs * :@dyurko:houtworm.im < 1676279490 905374 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1676279505 304868 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly JOIN #esolangs FireFly :firefly < 1676280358 938804 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676284325 810828 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1676285269 130978 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676287653 766169 :stmuk_!~steve@15.43.187.81.in-addr.arpa JOIN #esolangs * :steve < 1676287888 904086 :hkgit03!~laerling@user/laerling JOIN #esolangs laerling :lærling < 1676288188 440369 :stmuk!~steve@15.43.187.81.in-addr.arpa QUIT :*.net *.split < 1676288188 546115 :mla!~mla@198.57.44.222 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1676292017 123047 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676294112 296809 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs WeepingAngel :wpa > 1676294647 944130 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Collatz sequence14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106789&oldid=65171 5* 03Pro465 5* (+147) 10 < 1676296266 206847 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.7.116 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676296602 119898 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676300240 578094 :Cale!~cale@cpe80d04ade0a03-cm80d04ade0a01.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN #esolangs Cale :realname < 1676301367 484593 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676301739 830021 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1676302615 134624 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.7.116 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676305186 391138 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676306291 183622 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.7.116 QUIT :Quit: See You Space Cowboy < 1676307231 126962 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] ballerspace < 1676307240 406004 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :holar < 1676307345 203390 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org QUIT :Client Quit < 1676307585 125655 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] ballerspace < 1676307591 59361 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :+bf < 1676307627 209083 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :`dvsdg < 1676307628 694398 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :ww < 1676307629 74630 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :dvsdg? No such file or directory < 1676307629 694175 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :ad < 1676307630 693947 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :wa < 1676307631 194080 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :s < 1676307632 194453 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :d < 1676307633 194355 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :wa < 1676307633 694674 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :s < 1676307634 694148 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :d < 1676307635 694509 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :wa < 1676307636 694215 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :s < 1676307637 697614 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :d < 1676307638 694100 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :wa < 1676307639 694829 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :s < 1676307640 194197 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :d < 1676307640 695482 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :w < 1676307641 194319 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :a < 1676307641 613026 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat MODE #esolangs +q :hal!*@* < 1676307642 194365 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :sd < 1676307643 194083 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :w < 1676307644 194281 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :YOOOOOO < 1676307645 200640 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :`help < 1676307645 229438 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch [] " downloads files. Files saved to $HACKENV are persistent, and $HACKENV/bin is in $PATH. $HACKENV is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert, https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/ to browse. $PWD ($HACKENV/tmp) is persistent but unversioned, /tmp is ephemeral. < 1676307645 431383 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat MODE #esolangs +q :*!*@mms-guest.fcps.org < 1676307679 543748 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat MODE #esolangs -q :hal!*@* < 1676307716 615617 :ballerspace!~ballerspa@mms-guest.fcps.org QUIT :Client Quit < 1676309586 305186 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat MODE #esolangs -q :*!*@mms-guest.fcps.org < 1676309884 440908 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(that's from a public school, so probably a bored kid) < 1676310431 969780 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1676312026 264178 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676312204 997094 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1676312500 538764 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SillyCon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106790&oldid=76433 5* 03Kwikrick 5* (-63) 10/* External resources */ > 1676312522 864155 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SillyCon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106791&oldid=106790 5* 03Kwikrick 5* (-7) 10/* External resources */ > 1676312745 750548 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106792&oldid=106788 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (+163) 10 > 1676312970 232007 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SillyCon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106793&oldid=106791 5* 03Kwikrick 5* (+229) 10update list of operators > 1676313061 131024 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106794&oldid=106792 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (+391) 10/* Examples */ < 1676313219 527446 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676313254 90609 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1676314953 182368 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676315438 43159 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs WeepingAngel :wpa < 1676317124 625732 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1676317352 378536 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106795&oldid=106794 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (-36) 10/* Reserved Tokens */ < 1676317481 869134 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: trying to figure out why wasd doesn't move their character, yes < 1676317553 185918 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't quite believe that... :P < 1676317944 820804 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait, why does the dynamic IP of my home internet suddenly reverse DNS to under monradsl.monornet.hu ? that's scary. Monor region aka +3629 is infamous about being the one location in Hungary where telecommunication networks work completely differently from the rest of the country, and I'm definitely not there. > 1676318061 752813 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106796&oldid=106795 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (-327) 10/* Pattern Matching */ < 1676318119 964 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess Vodafone just messed up something in the configuration, btu still, this is how ghost stories start, one day your friend's ip reverse resolves to Monor, three days later he disappears and you never see them again\ < 1676318300 359484 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :omg we had a genuine troll .. what an opportunity i missed. > 1676318743 349491 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106797&oldid=106796 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (+569) 10/* Piecewise Functions */ < 1676319103 449960 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: you have vodaphone net? we bascially have only vodaphone and o2 left in germany. was hoping vodaphone is the quality services. its like 2x as much in costs than 02 and its derivates. > 1676319125 813274 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106798&oldid=106797 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (-32) 10/* Input/Output */ < 1676319154 565336 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: you won't tell me how that works. will you? > 1676319274 860028 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106799&oldid=106798 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (+298) 10/* Input/Output */ < 1676319318 241305 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you could have been everybody. why not oerjan, elliott, ais or fizzy? wait fizzy is here < 1676319330 789184 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :isnt she > 1676319349 408964 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106800&oldid=106799 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (+1) 10/* Input/Output */ < 1676319380 443050 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676319429 286918 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :the other possibiliy is, you are just as overwhelmed with the (fake) mass resonance ..like eating shit cause millions of flies cant be wrong. < 1676319453 798057 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :i still remember the internet. i just hope its still out ther. < 1676319471 772593 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wpa: no, I'm pretty sure it's Vodafone, not Vodaphone < 1676319494 765579 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :noted. < 1676319587 792955 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-b8a4-69a6-39fb-6a83.fixed6.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I will remember you fondly whenever you disappear > 1676319763 257408 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106801&oldid=106800 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (-94) 10/* Reverse Cat */ > 1676320424 1368 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106802&oldid=106801 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (+578) 10/* Hello World */ > 1676320443 53200 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106803&oldid=106802 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (+0) 10/* Hello World */ < 1676321201 81003 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676322175 252521 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1676325919 12485 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SillyCon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106804&oldid=106793 5* 03Kwikrick 5* (+1691) 10/* Language */ > 1676326089 450678 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SillyCon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106805&oldid=106804 5* 03Kwikrick 5* (+76) 10/* Language */ > 1676326193 285004 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SillyCon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106806&oldid=106805 5* 03Kwikrick 5* (+12) 10/* Language */ > 1676328702 783868 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SillyCon14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106807&oldid=106806 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+19) 10/* External resources */ Category < 1676328853 529136 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676331169 752478 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1676334827 521891 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1676334873 808649 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1676334977 524262 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse > 1676336856 807809 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106808&oldid=106803 5* 03Proxxa 5* (+242) 10/* Reverse Cat */ Implement Reverse Cat with updated IO < 1676337105 63801 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676340169 475429 :GregorR!~GregorR@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esolangs :«if you could have been everybody. why not oerjan, elliott, ais or fizzy? wait fizzy is here» Aww man, I was away from this channel for so long I don't even get listed among the old guard :'( < 1676340567 600107 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1676340815 483611 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Client Quit < 1676341645 166416 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1676341649 797935 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1676341727 485449 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1676345654 177615 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1676346742 368106 :razetime!~Thunderbi@43.254.111.18 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676352150 271057 :razetime!~Thunderbi@43.254.111.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1676352675 135255 :razetime!~Thunderbi@43.254.111.18 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676353065 621679 :razetime!~Thunderbi@43.254.111.18 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676353147 940199 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :GregorR: you have been absent for a long time indeed < 1676353170 490636 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? gregorr < 1676353173 297079 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :gregorr? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1676353200 119787 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hah. You left before "everybody" got a wisdom entry even. < 1676353347 784669 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`learn GregorR is a recovering absentee. He's known for his hack ego and hat tricks. < 1676353351 256481 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Learned 'gregorr': GregorR is a recovering absentee. He's known for his hack ego and hat tricks. < 1676353987 580194 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :ChatGPT actually taught me some math. I was asking it about division by 0 in real, extended real, and projectively extended reals, and it answered correctly for two of the three (for extended reals it claimed 1/0 is positive infinity. I was able to get it to see its error). But it mentioned the projectively-extended reals as a "one-point compactification", which I hadn't heard of before, and as far as I can tell it's correct < 1676354019 718232 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is < 1676354059 600287 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though topology will largely not care about the ring structure you started out with. < 1676354101 757531 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://sharegpt.com/c/7z2BDJg an earlier conversation, https://sharegpt.com/c/LgeDLSy this one < 1676355748 219844 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe that is actually a use for ChatGPT... finding adjacent keywords to a topic. < 1676355795 780166 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But the substance of statements when it comes to math and hard sciences... meh, I'm less convinced there. < 1676355828 133333 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( Do your own research. ) < 1676355929 971157 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(That innocent phrase has been totally destroyed by cryptocrap.) < 1676355996 826847 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's bad at substance in general. Only useful if you're knowledgeable and attentive enough to spot mistakes or at least double check, or if factual accuracy isn't important (e.g. fiction) < 1676358031 811070 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I'm afraid that it's getting good enough to replace TV experts. < 1676359378 723475 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1676361558 68083 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SillyCon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106809&oldid=106807 5* 03Kwikrick 5* (-122) 10/* Implementation */ < 1676361784 614506 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676364152 458904 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs SGautam :Siddharth Gautam < 1676364694 665814 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :ChatGPT taught me a bunch of maths, but unfortunately everything it said was nonsense so I had to unlearn it. < 1676364847 18185 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? FireFly < 1676364850 16004 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. It's also a room whose gimmick is that it gets darker as you kill the enemies. < 1676364875 668357 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh, I don't even know what the latter is a reference to < 1676364917 924953 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`hwrl firefly < 1676364919 259094 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/log/tip/wisdom/firefly < 1676365262 559900 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: I don't know; https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Firefly_Room quite possibly. < 1676365388 768319 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(maybe b_jonas remembers) < 1676365611 235074 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1676365683 115793 :mich181189!sid268336@londonhackspace/mich181189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1676365710 115489 :dnm!sid401311@id-401311.lymington.irccloud.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1676365761 202383 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676365764 234050 :yuu_!sid267332@id-267332.ilkley.irccloud.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1676365926 385012 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: probably the firefly room from Super Metroid. it has a zig-zag path in its upper part and a spike floor in the lower part with an e-tank, plus fireflee enemies, and as you kill the fireflees the tile layer gets darker and darker so if you kill them all it's all black and you have to remember the layout to get up < 1676365938 168523 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :o < 1676365949 377024 :dnm!sid401311@id-401311.lymington.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs dnm :dnm < 1676365953 901061 :yuu!sid267332@id-267332.ilkley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs * :yuu < 1676366044 471109 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's notable mostly because of hellruns (lower Norfair without Varia suit) in Super Metroid randomizers, because it's a room that's in lower norfair but not heated, is close to a save location, you can farm the firefleas for power bombs of which you need a lot because they're often the bottleneck for crystal flashes and you need 6 extra to exit lower norfair (if you don't have bombs or screw attack) < 1676366063 299699 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and also sometimes gives you the vanilla e-tank to quickly recharge your health < 1676366081 535098 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and it's on the path that you have to follow anyway) < 1676366174 680259 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the fireflea enemies are relatively harmless so the room isn't too dangerous; they appear elsewhere too but it's only in this one room where they cause darkening, so that's really a property of the room, not the monster < 1676366384 348020 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also apparently I got the whole name thing wrong: https://wiki.supermetroid.run/Lower_Norfair_Fireflea_Room says the enemies are called fireflea and the room is called lower norfair fireflea room < 1676366551 137406 :mich181189!sid268336@londonhackspace/mich181189 JOIN #esolangs mich181189 :Michael < 1676366597 72400 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Fly, flea! Flee, fly! < 1676367300 678174 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1676367751 861252 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :if they're called firefleas that explains why you couldn't easily find this by searching for fireflies < 1676368206 693405 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the spell chequer will not save you this time < 1676370070 810272 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676370964 246764 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3+b4 - https://znc.in < 1676371017 720030 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676371055 711716 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1676371085 846480 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in > 1676372115 352309 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106810&oldid=106766 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+3) 10value > integer > 1676372339 445205 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106811&oldid=106810 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+43) 10Improve select docs < 1676372384 131451 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas > 1676372561 999069 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106812&oldid=106811 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+17) 10Don't show my list as a link > 1676372638 753063 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106813&oldid=106812 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+26) 10first -> bottommost < 1676373024 778602 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1676373626 357866 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: it doesn't save *you*. it does save me, if I search for "firefly room super metroid" then google spell corrects it to "fireflea room super metroid" < 1676373665 122553 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah < 1676373683 609094 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you don't know that it's about super metroid then it doesn't help < 1676373849 123555 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh no, this spammer is using a malformed email address. how am I supposed to reply to them now about the important business opportunity? < 1676373859 976143 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :malformed email address in the From field that is < 1676373913 442899 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :reply-to? mailto: link in body? > 1676374103 191292 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07X714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106814&oldid=106813 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+12) 10Get it right < 1676374448 849934 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no reply-to, but I got two other spam mails from what seem like the same spammer < 1676374461 439413 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :with non-malformed From: addresses < 1676374540 39989 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :> From: "=?UTF-8?B?TmFmaXVyIFJhaG1hbsKg?= :1:49: error: parse error on input ‘@’ < 1676374988 174474 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hah < 1676375022 302695 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess somebody scraped *real* email addresses and split them at the `@`, and used the whole prefix as a would-be local part? < 1676375043 32340 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And this was `Nafiur Rahman ` < 1676375056 28798 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` base64 -d << at the end < 1676375935 869093 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, I guess that could be a quirk of parsing incorrectly < 1676375976 109912 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but still the double quotes are odd < 1676377073 101321 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hehehe. so RFC 2047 defines this =?charset?X?...?= style quoting that's used in email headers. you encode strings like that, where charset is the name of a character set, X is the letter B for base64 encoding or Q for a variant of mime-quoted-printable encoding (variant because underscore represent space). each encoded word from the =? to the ?= < 1676377073 599959 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :inclusive must be at most 75 bytes long, if you want to encode longer text you break to multiple such sequences. BUT the RFC also says that if the charset isn't single-byte one but mode-switching then you must add shift sequences to return to the initial shift state at the end of each encoded part. that means if a character set uses very long shift < 1676377074 107225 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sequences (and possibly a long name) then you might not be able to use it with RFC 2047 encoding. < 1676377443 277092 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :this seems to be just a theoretical consideration, there probably isn't an actual charset that would cause this problem < 1676378114 681010 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :even if it doesn't make encoding impossible, it does sound like a requirement that's hard in practice. generic encoders do sometimes have a flush or similar function to force reset the character set, but how do you know when to call that to get the possibly variant-quoted-printable escaped output to fit a given number of bytes? < 1676378525 288422 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1676381523 656242 :ddccdd!~ddccdd@90.166.156.205 JOIN #esolangs * :ddccdd > 1676382765 678647 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wasm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106815&oldid=95139 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+158) 10Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the WASM programming language on GitHub and changed the category tag Unimplemented to Implemented. > 1676382887 605646 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wasm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106816&oldid=106815 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (-3) 10Rectified the mnemonic for the If command terminator, imputed to be incorrect, from EndWhile to EndIf. > 1676383282 143274 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wasm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106817&oldid=106816 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+407) 10Introduced an examples section compact of two initial members, the first being an infinitely repeating cat program, the second a truth-machine. > 1676383569 739198 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wasm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106818&oldid=106817 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+1743) 10Added a Hello World! program as a third example. < 1676383619 719135 :ddccdd!~ddccdd@90.166.156.205 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1676383737 777853 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.2.42 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime > 1676383823 902001 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wasm14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106819&oldid=106818 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+636) 10Improved the instruction table's formatting and amended a few orthographic mistakes. < 1676383907 665284 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676388286 953072 :tromp!~textual@92.110.219.57 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676389027 225727 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1676389179 227898 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1676390038 171975 :monoxane!~monoxane@user/monoxane QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds) < 1676390065 166032 :monoxane!~monoxane@user/monoxane JOIN #esolangs monoxane :monoxane < 1676393244 801022 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1676393493 40828 :dnm!sid401311@id-401311.lymington.irccloud.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1676393621 332435 :dnm!sid401311@2a03:5180:f:2::6:1f9f JOIN #esolangs dnm :dnm < 1676394271 829969 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.2.42 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676394514 298674 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676394536 543639 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1676394853 35238 :Thedarkb1!~Thedarkb@92.40.196.34.threembb.co.uk JOIN #esolangs Thedarkb :Ben < 1676395110 748953 :Thedarkb1!~Thedarkb@92.40.196.34.threembb.co.uk QUIT :Client Quit < 1676395303 86833 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1676395505 213181 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1676395515 236663 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1676395578 772224 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1676395582 32799 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1676395841 632774 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Orisphera/Completeness14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106820&oldid=105966 5* 03Orisphera 5* (+20) 10/* What is a programming language? */ < 1676396098 355044 :tromp!~textual@92.110.219.57 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676396853 171899 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? TRON code < 1676396856 75380 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :TRON code? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1676396893 905030 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? Free Hero Mesh < 1676396895 620597 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Free Hero Mesh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ > 1676397947 549817 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Orisphera/Completeness14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106821&oldid=106820 5* 03Orisphera 5* (+6) 10/* Completeness by halting */ > 1676398006 976754 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Orisphera/Completeness14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106822&oldid=106821 5* 03Orisphera 5* (+59) 10/* Full completeness */ < 1676399054 65868 :ddccdd!~ddccdd@90.166.153.168 JOIN #esolangs * :ddccdd < 1676399202 474441 :ddccdd!~ddccdd@90.166.153.168 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676399506 141368 :GregorR!~GregorR@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I'm presumably in HackEso as Gregor, since that's the nick I had on Freenode. < 1676399510 692721 :GregorR!~GregorR@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? Gregor < 1676399512 435158 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Gregor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible. < 1676399517 623558 :GregorR!~GregorR@71.19.155.102 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's me! > 1676399677 102639 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07S l o w14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106823&oldid=84940 5* 03Tux1 5* (+226) 10 < 1676401462 112789 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :forty cakes :o < 1676401476 820868 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :`pwd < 1676401477 658892 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​/hackenv/tmp < 1676401497 92985 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :`" < 1676401498 699217 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :1/2:613) shachaf: wait, _you_ are in northumberland? No. whew we don't have room for more esolangers there. oerjan: Wait, *you* are in Northumberland? no Whew. We don't have room for more esolangers there. \ 903) well what is time imo: an illusion [...] elliott, I think it's more like a burrito If you have too much of time y > 1676401830 643655 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tupilled14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106824&oldid=106808 5* 03Ashli Katt 5* (+274) 10 > 1676401940 671853 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Proman3419 5* 10New user account > 1676402478 68894 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106825&oldid=106775 5* 03Proman3419 5* (+187) 10/* Introductions */ > 1676402951 270990 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GoDDS14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106826 5* 03Proman3419 5* (+266) 10Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Graph of Distributed Data Structures |paradigms=Imperative |author=[[User:Proman3419 Herdran]], |majorimpl=[https://github.com/proman3419/Graph-of-Distributed-Data-Structures Java] |year=[[:Category:2023|2023]] |files=.godds }}" > 1676403571 626725 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GoDDS14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106827&oldid=106826 5* 03Proman3419 5* (+226) 10 > 1676403611 399180 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GoDDS14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106828&oldid=106827 5* 03Proman3419 5* (+5) 10 > 1676403793 138967 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Proman3419 5* 10moved [[02GoDDS10]] to [[GoDDS - Graph of Distributed Data Structures]]: Rename to full name < 1676403925 249655 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine < 1676404050 310078 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord > 1676404413 298511 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Proman3419 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Fizz buzz 1.jpg10]]" > 1676404748 273118 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Proman3419 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Fizz buzz 2.jpg10]]" > 1676405371 869928 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GoDDS - Graph of Distributed Data Structures14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106833&oldid=106829 5* 03Proman3419 5* (+2881) 10 > 1676405376 801545 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07S l o w14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106834&oldid=106823 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+23) 10/* External resources */ Category < 1676405437 358106 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676405468 529185 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse > 1676405487 238178 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GoDDS - Graph of Distributed Data Structures14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106835&oldid=106833 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+82) 10Stub, categories > 1676405966 621989 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GoDDS - Graph of Distributed Data Structures14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106836&oldid=106835 5* 03Proman3419 5* (+293) 10 > 1676406085 577543 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106837&oldid=106786 5* 03Proman3419 5* (+51) 10Added GoDDS - Graph of Distributed Data Structures < 1676406900 28835 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine < 1676410537 155429 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? gregor < 1676410539 137244 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Gregor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible. < 1676410786 336911 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :GregorR: mystifying < 1676410797 409810 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(The entry, not the nick change) < 1676410870 388938 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? greg < 1676410872 123599 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :greg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1676411281 24699 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait, is that the same Gregor under a different name? < 1676411350 756608 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676411898 109774 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: yes, see log (3 1/2 hours ago) < 1676412398 697143 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` \? wib_jonas; \? wob_jonas # yeah, two entries happens < 1676412401 175238 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas is b_jonas in disguise, so that he can do magic tricks. \ wob_jonas? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1676412424 748692 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` for x in wib_jonas; do \? "$x"; done < 1676412426 735561 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas is b_jonas in disguise, so that he can do magic tricks. < 1676412431 964701 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` for x in oren \\oren\\; do \? "$x"; done < 1676412434 506724 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :oren is a Canadian esolanger who would like to obliterate time zones so that he can talk to his father who lives in the same house. He's finally got the hang of toycj tuping. He also has a rabid hatred of the two-storey lowercase a and other shady characters. To escape the (build) system he's considering a career change to mad culinary science. \ \oren\ is an optical attempt to improve upon oren. The only thing it actually improved was name recognizability < 1676412455 118912 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are probably mreo pairs < 1676414571 225418 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? taneb < 1676414572 971180 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Taneb is not elliott, no matter whom you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, one of which is a Czech woman, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. He sometimes invents without noticing it (see: tanebventions). < 1676414787 621134 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? people who taneb is not < 1676414789 235041 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Taneb is not elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond, Queen Elizabeth the first, or anyone older than Queen Elizabeth the Second. Pending approval: Shigeru Miyamoto. < 1676414870 111630 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :.oO(that doesn't deny that he's Satoshi Nakamoto) < 1676416522 915205 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1676423564 731742 :Lymia!lymia@2600:3c01::f03c:92ff:feec:5051 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1676423637 332160 :^[!~user@user//x-8473491 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1676423638 36532 :Lymia!lymia@ayame.servers.aura.moe JOIN #esolangs Lymia :Lymia Aluysia < 1676424292 977637 :^[!~user@user//x-8473491 JOIN #esolangs ^[ :user < 1676430512 31959 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.1.74 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676433233 304575 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.1.74 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676434196 287641 :sam!~sam@37.247.55.216 JOIN #esolangs * :sam < 1676435891 776668 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.1.74 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime > 1676435919 26405 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Footsteps14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106838&oldid=105580 5* 03Ais523 5* (+615) 10/* Start 0 */ reply to [[User:Salpynx]] < 1676436627 977752 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1676438471 56114 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1676438807 777180 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1676441656 25876 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1676445119 577088 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676445484 776932 :craigo_!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1676445656 963047 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1676447052 376146 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676448282 756895 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.1.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1676448993 778119 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.1.74 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime > 1676449086 824900 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Orisphera/Completeness14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106839&oldid=106822 5* 03Orisphera 5* (+39) 10/* What is a programming language? */ < 1676450973 326767 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.1.74 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676459530 801435 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676462110 688834 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1676465051 531261 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676469771 768379 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1676470455 854735 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676471243 559017 :Cale!~cale@cpe80d04ade0a03-cm80d04ade0a01.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1676471329 766812 :Cale!~cale@cpe80d04ade0a03-cm80d04ade0a01.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN #esolangs Cale :realname < 1676473392 764856 :Cale!~cale@cpe80d04ade0a03-cm80d04ade0a01.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1676474128 818047 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.1.74 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676474173 945062 :Cale!~cale@2605:8d80:6a2:d49b:a139:9a62:b1d5:76a4 JOIN #esolangs Cale :realname < 1676475640 789730 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :TIL that unproductive endless loops like `for (;;) {}` are UB in C++ :-/ < 1676475815 279280 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :in general? I know that having main diverge is UB in C++ but I thought it might be specific to main somehow < 1676475892 998704 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1676475960 90219 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/memory_model includes a "progress guarantee" and LLVM has started to take advantage of it, leading to https://karlsruhe-social.de/system/cache/media_attachments/files/109/856/328/357/566/082/original/abdcd25332d18d5a.png (confirmed with versions 13.x and 14.x) < 1676476064 200520 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(seen on ##rust-offtopic) < 1676476449 859594 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :*nod* < 1676476782 15990 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's a similar C thing (since C11) but it's restricted to loops that have a non-constant controlling expression. < 1676476892 594575 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :C11 6.8.5p6: "An iteration statement whose controlling expression is not a constant expression, that performs no input/output operations, does not access volatile objects, and performs no synchronization or atomic operations in its body, controlling expression, or (in the case of a `for` statement) its /expression-3/, may be assumed by the implementation to terminate." < 1676476914 849376 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Inherited from one of those C <-> C++ harmonization efforts, I believe. < 1676476952 680003 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1349.htm "Non-terminating loops" < 1676477031 615400 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :AIUI the "-- controlling expression is not a constant expression --" part was added in committee deliberations because of the body of existing C code that used `for (;;);` as a "should not be reached, and execution should not continue if reached" construct. > 1676477255 737704 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Vodracseck 5* 10New user account > 1676477525 289963 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106840&oldid=106825 5* 03Vodracseck 5* (+74) 10/* Introductions */ < 1676477968 321045 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: ok, that does look weird. I'd not be surprised if the while(1); loop could end in finite time, since that's a look with no side effects so it can be optimized away to nothing. but I don't see how you'd enter the other function. it can't be UB caused by the missing return statement in main because this is C++ code, not C, and C++ has an implicit return 0 at the end of main. < 1676478245 288751 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :are you saying that the while(1); loop can be optimized to unreachable somehow instead of just optimized to a nop? < 1676478422 552038 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :how would the loop ned in finite time? < 1676478424 594051 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :end* < 1676478513 28 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: it can't really, but since it never causes side effects and never changes any value that can be observed from the outside, I assume the compiler can optimize it as if it ended in finite time and did nothign < 1676478520 47226 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think it can optimize it to UB < 1676478671 110179 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but no, I can't cite the standard for this < 1676478678 296994 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's just how I think it might work < 1676478710 796729 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but maybe that's not right < 1676478720 110263 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1676478724 313872 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, it shouldn't be optimized to a nop < 1676478763 566014 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org JOIN #esolangs hooloovoo :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1676478783 756940 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've heard the thing about divergence being explicitly UB, and I think a compiler replacing an infinite loop without side-effect with a nop def woludn't be fine (well uh, I guess it would be as a consequence when it's UB, but like, just indirectly in that it could do anything) < 1676478793 39160 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I don't really speak C++ much < 1676478806 179698 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :imagine a loop that searches for a counterexample to the Goldbach conjecture (or a contradiction in ZF or whatever), and then the statement after the loop just prints "found" without printing any more specific info about the loop. presumably you don't want that loop to be optimized away to nop, so this infinite loop shouldn't be either < 1676478869 751467 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(of course that loop might be hard to write in a way that the compiler can prove it has no side-effect, since a naive implementation will have malloc call sbrk or mmap, but that's just a technical problem, the compiler can know enough about malloc to know that those aren't real side effects) < 1676478952 788524 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I think both C++ and rust folks are working on that you can eventually heap-allocate from compile-time code) < 1676479001 913323 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and besides, you can just avoid the malloc by searching for a counterexample that fits a gigabyte of pre-allocated memory, presumably the compiler won't be smart enough to be able to prove that that doesn't terminate) < 1676480653 97 :j-bot!~jbot@hagall.firefly.nu JOIN #esolangs * :jevalbot < 1676481904 958070 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.1.74 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676481955 59536 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1676481981 45727 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1676484173 836923 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz… < 1676570354 545943 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1676572087 105428 :Cale!~cale@2605:8d80:6a2:4f70:9e38:23aa:4526:c65f JOIN #esolangs Cale :realname < 1676572381 391152 :Cale!~cale@2605:8d80:6a2:4f70:9e38:23aa:4526:c65f QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676573242 838899 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1676573438 782952 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Lasermtv 5* 10New user account < 1676573506 331878 :Cale!~cale@2605:8d80:6a1:7608:a139:9a62:b1d5:76a4 JOIN #esolangs Cale :realname < 1676573515 560096 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1676577558 680009 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676579578 270933 :Cale!~cale@2605:8d80:6a1:7608:a139:9a62:b1d5:76a4 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676579592 998061 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.126 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1676579896 992582 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.126 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676579911 753940 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.126 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1676580662 972964 :Cale!~cale@2605:8d80:6a0:d61b:a139:9a62:b1d5:76a4 JOIN #esolangs Cale :realname < 1676581062 673611 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676583199 346883 :Cale!~cale@2605:8d80:6a0:d61b:a139:9a62:b1d5:76a4 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676584214 20181 :Cale!~cale@cpe80d04ade0a03-cm80d04ade0a01.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN #esolangs Cale :realname < 1676587949 26817 :Everything!~Everythin@46.185.124.65 JOIN #esolangs * :Everything < 1676594432 811401 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1676597052 260693 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03HyperCodec 5* 10New user account < 1676605823 587072 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.2.126 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1676605932 92850 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.84 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676607996 424514 :Everything!~Everythin@46.185.124.65 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1676613591 125775 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - 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https://znc.in < 1676642667 765864 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1676642791 300404 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1676643109 5774 :Cale!~cale@cpe80d04ade0a03-cm80d04ade0a01.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1676644836 325064 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676644898 527685 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1676645992 297299 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a03:2260:300c:400:61bd:fe2e:1f3c:b90a QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1676646254 766115 :Cale!~cale@cpe80d04ade0a03-cm80d04ade0a01.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN #esolangs Cale :realname < 1676646443 761124 :Thelie!~Thelie@185.66.195.74 JOIN #esolangs * :Thelie > 1676647736 19662 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Loss, v. 1.11.11.114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106861 5* 03Threesodas 5* (+452) 10Created page with "{{DISPLAYTITLE:Loss, v. 1.11.11.1_}} '''Loss''' is a language that is currently in its most stable version, 1.11.11.1_. It is no longer being updated. = Syntax = I prints I
II prints II
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ZZZzzz… < 1676658360 376708 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1676658544 43669 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106863&oldid=95510 5* 03Peter 5* (+253) 10 > 1676658553 70870 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106864&oldid=106863 5* 03Peter 5* (+2) 10/* pixeLang */ > 1676658569 952490 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106865&oldid=106864 5* 03Peter 5* (+11) 10/* pixeLang */ > 1676658925 226514 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106866&oldid=106865 5* 03Peter 5* (+78) 10 < 1676675984 862089 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676676100 120173 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1676676494 808735 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676694376 39644 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.56 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676696996 157784 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1676697329 26382 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox > 1676699142 139292 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Oreiboon 5* 10New user account > 1676699334 596302 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106867&oldid=106840 5* 03Oreiboon 5* (+173) 10 > 1676701001 885480 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Oreiboon14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106868 5* 03Oreiboon 5* (+215) 10Created page with "Hiya, I'm oreiboon, I'm a hobbyist developer, and I sometimes make things for fun. Current esolangs: [[CTELang]] - A language made for Click to Eleven (a clone of click to ten) to allow for modding. thats kinda it" > 1676701043 266215 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Oreiboon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106869&oldid=106868 5* 03Oreiboon 5* (+1) 10 > 1676704939 842028 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CTELang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106870 5* 03Oreiboon 5* (+6886) 10Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=CTELang |author=[[User:Oreiboon|oreiboon]] |paradigms=[[Category:Imperative_paradigm|imperative]] |class=[[:Category:Turing complete|Turing complete]] |year=[[:Category:2023|2023]] |majorimpl=Unavailable |files=.cttm }} ==Overview > 1676705045 643057 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CTELang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106871&oldid=106870 5* 03Oreiboon 5* (+48) 10 < 1676705445 459709 :genpaku!~gen@107.191.100.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676705562 728669 :genpaku!~gen@107.191.100.185 JOIN #esolangs genpaku :paku > 1676706819 234660 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CTELang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106872&oldid=106871 5* 03Oreiboon 5* (+622) 10 < 1676707684 60005 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.56 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1676707733 136095 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676709060 29196 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.56 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676710543 200350 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.56 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676710582 10085 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.56 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1676710582 497652 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.56 NICK :razetime < 1676711673 408040 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs SGautam :Siddharth Gautam < 1676711683 40281 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`" < 1676711685 571555 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :1/1:1287) ais523: Hmm, I think the wisdom database is like the quotes file, except it's for when people think they're being funny, rather than when other people think they're funny. \ 768) olsner: over the undertow! under the overpass! around the future and not just fnord for example. it's just the syntax < 1676711794 497152 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-230-207.bredband.tele2.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :`" olsner < 1676711796 150877 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :1/1:343) I used to be more irritated by alcohol Sgeo: you're not supposed to put it in your eyes \ 121) i think of languages as tools, there is no holy grail of languages even if there's no holy grail, that doesn't mean cups of crap is ok < 1676712687 781005 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1676713235 935591 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676713565 108309 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676713663 528296 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1676715449 614270 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676715464 528986 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1676716370 893281 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676717643 33402 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1676718764 358486 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.56 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676720529 62698 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs WeepingAngel :wpa < 1676724038 683476 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676724252 806431 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676728234 765924 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1676728243 351548 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676731914 643121 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity > 1676732306 826537 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Unarian14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106873&oldid=101678 5* 03Crb233 5* (+2205) 10Updated this page to match the specification on Github < 1676733864 202123 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676735645 561749 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1676736909 372478 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-230-207.bredband.tele2.se PRIVMSG #esolangs :`" sed < 1676736912 835223 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :1/1:1265) man i just realised esolangs are subject to the inverse wadler's law nobody ever cares about lexical syntax, let alone comments \ 833) If you write in the text using Unicode then how are you supposed to know if you mean seraphim have seven eyes or do they have ten? < 1676738983 778959 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.56 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime > 1676740565 451692 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CTELang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106874&oldid=106872 5* 03Oreiboon 5* (-20) 10/* Predefined variables */ > 1676740719 804771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07CTELang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106875&oldid=106874 5* 03Oreiboon 5* (+41) 10/* Overview */ < 1676741311 629713 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1676741361 311496 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1676741480 134131 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1676742076 262298 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.56 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1676743071 994686 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz… > 1676763450 77448 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03TheFloatingPixel 5* 10New user account > 1676763779 691950 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106886&oldid=106878 5* 03TheFloatingPixel 5* (+166) 10 > 1676766173 822828 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SOAP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106887&oldid=103113 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+568) 10Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the SOAP programming language on GitHub and changed the category tag Unimplemented to Implemented. > 1676766259 975633 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SOAP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106888&oldid=106887 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+1902) 10Added a restricted cat program as a further example. > 1676766435 158603 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SOAP14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106889&oldid=106888 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+67) 10Improved the code fragments' formatting. > 1676767260 162818 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07SOAP14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106890&oldid=106889 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+1327) 10Improved the instruction table's formatting. < 1676777127 779269 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.87 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676778076 778882 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1676778826 386417 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca JOIN #esolangs zzo38 :zzo38 < 1676779140 759779 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1676781235 910456 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676781288 185173 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Client Quit > 1676781343 406575 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Crb23314]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106891 5* 03Crb233 5* (+132) 10Created page with "Hi, I'm crb233, creator of [[Unarian]] and various other programming languages that aren't as well documented or publicly available." < 1676781812 778960 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.87 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676782721 92786 :sprout!~quassel@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676782727 301862 :sprout_!~quassel@2a02:a448:3a80:1:b1b1:b3cc:5827:5901 JOIN #esolangs * :sprout < 1676784875 198877 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1676785089 23554 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1676786268 764192 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1676789704 753647 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1676790365 634506 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1676791663 546279 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1676793694 36655 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Oreiboon14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106892 5* 03Oreiboon 5* (+494) 10Created page with "==Overview== this is for discussion of anything related to me. if you want to start a conversation, create a subcategory under '''Topics''', and be sure to sign any comment you make. ===Topics=== ==Example== This is an example conversation. ~~~
This is > 1676793743 781056 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Oreiboon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106893&oldid=106892 5* 03Oreiboon 5* (-430) 10 < 1676794638 764713 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1676795138 324069 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676795451 33036 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.87 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676796398 55447 :sprout_!~quassel@2a02:a448:3a80:1:b1b1:b3cc:5827:5901 NICK :sprout < 1676799488 354054 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1676799488 354339 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Client Quit < 1676799543 346840 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname > 1676799962 336441 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[078BallScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106894&oldid=103410 5* 03TheFloatingPixel 5* (+8) 10Corrected the refimpl link, the previous one resulted in an 404. > 1676800098 42321 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07``14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106895 5* 03Xyzzy 5* (+70) 10Created page with "{{Stub}} {{WIP}} '''``''' is a programming language inspired by [[`]]." > 1676800694 784358 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07``14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106896&oldid=106895 5* 03Xyzzy 5* (+550) 10 > 1676800770 644332 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Xyzzy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106897&oldid=106259 5* 03Xyzzy 5* (+118) 10 < 1676801004 27599 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.2.252 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676801029 24507 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1676801260 7392 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.2.252 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1676801329 327915 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.43 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1676804691 806634 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.43 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1676805335 659575 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07``14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106898&oldid=106896 5* 03Xyzzy 5* (+188) 10 < 1676805766 730207 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1676806394 779800 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs > 1676806672 899078 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* 10New user account > 1676806750 980744 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106899&oldid=106886 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* (+107) 10/* Introductions */ > 1676806794 440068 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106900&oldid=106899 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* (+99) 10/* Introductions */ > 1676807917 73620 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Newbiefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106901&oldid=102402 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+3569) 10The language is Turing-complete > 1676807981 835427 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Newbiefuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106902&oldid=106901 5* 03LyricLy 5* (-1) 10This isn't Markdown > 1676809676 616259 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07P"14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106903 5* 03Xyzzy 5* (+21) 10Redirected page to [[P]] > 1676809932 774103 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07``14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106904&oldid=106898 5* 03Xyzzy 5* (+96) 10 > 1676811402 872817 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Indefinite14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106905 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* (+337) 10Created page with "Indefinite is an [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[User: LolloDev5123]]. This page is mainly a work in progress, and without any implementations, Indefinite is just an idea. [[Category:Languages]] [[Category:Functional Paradigm]] [[Category:Declarat > 1676812834 123173 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Indefinite14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106906&oldid=106905 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* (+3142) 10 < 1676813335 550284 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1676814052 37726 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Indefinite14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106907&oldid=106906 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* (+2110) 10 > 1676814155 864282 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Indefinite14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106908&oldid=106907 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* (+25) 10 > 1676814189 975551 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Indefinite14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106909&oldid=106908 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* (+1) 10 > 1676814771 127406 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Indefinite14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106910&oldid=106909 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* (+0) 10 > 1676815158 35114 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Indefinite14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106911&oldid=106910 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* (+48) 10 > 1676815509 512641 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Indefinite14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106912&oldid=106911 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* (+71) 10 > 1676815700 204478 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Indefinite14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106913&oldid=106912 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* (-1) 10 > 1676815920 969846 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Indefinite14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106914&oldid=106913 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* (+0) 10 < 1676816384 773949 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz… < 1677098671 311670 :Everything!~Everythin@46.185.124.65 JOIN #esolangs * :Everything < 1677098691 716009 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca JOIN #esolangs zzo38 :zzo38 < 1677099345 477312 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1677102643 416344 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1677103429 693884 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106988&oldid=106930 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+877) 10+Uxn < 1677105227 854334 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Should Uxn be mentioned in esolang wiki? > 1677105781 185407 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106989 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* (+2793) 10Created page with " (or Markovskiy) is an [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[User: LolloDev5123]] designed to operate using a [[Markov algorithm]]. In , programs consist of a series of "states" that are transformed by a set of rules. == Overview == programs consist of a series < 1677105893 25778 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1677106075 454828 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677106877 174754 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1677107616 727035 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Markovskiy14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106990 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* (+34) 10Redirected page to [[]] < 1677108337 580830 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1677110170 38036 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1677110191 28576 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1677110600 492728 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677110721 288931 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677111537 202384 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should claim that on the streets there are lots of sculptures of Saint Edad, the patron saint of symmetric cryptography, we just don't know where they are because the iconographic tradition demands that Saint Edad is depicted indistinguishable from random sculptures by any practical attack. < 1677117064 808651 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.97 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677118368 816101 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677118596 35418 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1677118661 844595 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1677118676 773402 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1677122877 762658 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.97 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677124379 44979 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.189 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677125925 69196 :Everything!~Everythin@46.185.124.65 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1677125975 953751 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677128337 162365 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.35.53 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677130048 973682 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1677130231 801371 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1677131632 162312 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.35.53 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1677131635 790884 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.182 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677131774 193669 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.182 NICK :razetime < 1677132203 749751 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.182 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1677132737 117227 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1677132740 65939 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.182 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677132863 779939 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1677133085 598335 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.85 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677133120 52679 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.182 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1677133120 399229 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.85 NICK :razetime < 1677134122 520761 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1677134257 36531 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1677134281 299137 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1677137872 343239 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677138256 915167 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1677139563 558409 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.85 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1677139709 860011 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677140262 969152 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677140477 307693 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677140502 36231 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.85 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677142068 30680 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677142069 25239 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1677142069 179852 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1677145667 682008 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1677147381 845248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Trainfck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106991&oldid=106029 5* 03Mujk 5* (+150) 10 > 1677147579 476605 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Mujk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106992&oldid=106023 5* 03Mujk 5* (+156) 10 > 1677147597 262905 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Mujk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106993&oldid=106992 5* 03Mujk 5* (-4) 10 > 1677147679 254330 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Mujk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106994&oldid=106993 5* 03Mujk 5* (+4) 10 > 1677147723 225189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Mujk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106995&oldid=106994 5* 03Mujk 5* (+9) 10 < 1677148290 130450 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1677149911 850689 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Listack14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106996&oldid=106860 5* 03McChuck 5* (+33) 10/* Listack: A symmetric, stackless, stack-based, concatenative language */ < 1677150789 921465 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.85 QUIT :Quit: See You Space Cowboy > 1677151145 780533 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rings14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106997&oldid=102831 5* 03Ardemit 5* (-252) 10Minor edits < 1677153541 766661 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677153572 420789 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677154784 583179 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1677154797 64464 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677155218 569053 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs > 1677156531 396473 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=106998&oldid=106975 5* 03Tesolang 5* (+142) 10/* Introductions */ > 1677156697 810523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tesolang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=106999 5* 03Tesolang 5* (+61) 10uhhh < 1677157096 126543 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Tesolang < 1677157110 37228 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi > 1677157421 689655 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07&-/14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107000 5* 03Tesolang 5* (+284) 10expand this page please, i am too lazy to expand it myself < 1677157466 52387 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is my esolang < 1677157533 52799 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyone wanna chat? < 1677157617 16917 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 TOPIC #esolangs :Welcome to the twentieth international hub of esoteric programming language analysis, adoption, anniversary, and kittens! | https://esolangs.org | logs: https://logs.esolangs.org/ < 1677157627 849830 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677157635 111972 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, bye perl < 1677157636 225516 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677157641 384276 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bye simcop < 1677157680 131033 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677157731 757063 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? chat < 1677157733 555050 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :chat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1677157776 990311 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1677157850 131180 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677157965 130928 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1677158025 127372 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Tesolang < 1677158045 684678 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e < 1677158286 770225 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :who wants to chat? > 1677158504 225804 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07&-/14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107001&oldid=107000 5* 03Tesolang 5* (+19) 10added category < 1677158824 345466 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i added my esolang page to the 2023 category > 1677159063 453335 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tesolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107002&oldid=106999 5* 03Tesolang 5* (+22) 10added my esolangs < 1677159148 157561 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1677159158 126797 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Tesolang < 1677159172 775602 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i added my esolangs to my user page < 1677159266 481191 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 QUIT :Client Quit < 1677159372 126452 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Tesolang < 1677159398 27223 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :btw you pronounce &-/ as "Ampinash" < 1677159634 826154 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 QUIT :Client Quit < 1677159643 128115 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Tesolang < 1677159715 291352 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 QUIT :Client Quit < 1677160729 127419 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Tesolang < 1677161278 42629 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :who wants to chat? < 1677161697 309038 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1677161706 126272 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Tesolang < 1677161756 244195 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 PRIVMSG #esolangs :bye < 1677161757 529876 :Tesolang!~Tesolang@213.222.225.201 QUIT :Client Quit < 1677163308 408625 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1677163442 272873 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Trainfck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107003&oldid=106991 5* 03Mujk 5* (-28) 10 > 1677163459 711150 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Mujk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107004&oldid=106995 5* 03Mujk 5* (-29) 10 > 1677164060 545231 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07&-/14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107005&oldid=107001 5* 03Tesolang 5* (-18) 10added new commands < 1677164883 794955 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.35.250 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677165539 126889 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1677165885 508098 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3+b4 - https://znc.in < 1677165885 554275 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3+b4 - https://znc.in < 1677165915 100895 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1677166207 421150 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw-6oM5xssY nice simple bot loop between two wisdom bots, each with a wisdom that triggers the other bot to ask about that wisdom < 1677166467 561756 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, I did have the right idea. > 1677166573 445991 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Sannidhya127 5* 10New user account < 1677167857 78945 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1677168299 451718 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07&-/14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107006&oldid=107005 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+114) 10Categories < 1677168516 942312 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.35.250 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677170078 13054 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1677170151 759578 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677170272 941687 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677170981 192675 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1677171012 42034 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677171720 784343 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1677172499 857082 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1677173064 728041 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677173124 773096 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in > 1677174859 733529 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WTFCode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107007&oldid=106987 5* 03Asicosilomu 5* (+5164) 10Enter a short summary [Alt+Shift+b] < 1677175617 248872 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1677176528 870898 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1677176801 51990 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Electra14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107008&oldid=106980 5* 03DolphyWind 5* (-1) 10 < 1677188872 768640 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1677189165 442914 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Papel14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107009 5* 03LolloDev5123 5* (+3268) 10Created page with "PAPEL (Particle Automata Programming Ephemeral Language) is a stack-based [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[User: LolloDev5123]] intended to be stored on paper using hole punches of different shapes. == Instructions == {| class="wikitable" !Instructio < 1677189783 926289 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677190249 299665 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1677190266 524755 :dbohdan!~dbohdan@user/dbohdan QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb2+b1 - https://znc.in < 1677190285 88874 :dbohdan!~dbohdan@user/dbohdan JOIN #esolangs dbohdan :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677190417 578564 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN #esolangs lambdabot :Lambda_Robots:_100%_Loyal < 1677192429 764918 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677192477 88359 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677195244 226605 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677195439 222753 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677196560 945185 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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Not boxed, just a CD case. < 1677233745 824044 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(It's always hard to be sure whether it's CD-ROM or DVD; they look the same.) < 1677234613 126476 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1677234627 115661 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: (cdrskin -minfo) with libburn installed < 1677234782 912252 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: I don't have the physical media at hand, it's buried in a box nearby. < 1677234851 201711 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Otherwise I'd probably know... there's usually a logo on the disk < 1677234866 481771 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and the case too) < 1677234895 131578 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah yes, they're certainly hard to distinguish that way < 1677235000 461063 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"usually a logo on the disk" => I think the ones that you can print on with a printer and the ones that you can kind of print on with a DVD burner if you flip the disk don't have a logo. they may still have some text on the plastic just closer to the center from where the metal film ends, but I'm not sure you can interpret that text. < 1677235124 25983 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Man, the good old days when compact discs were how you transferred data. < 1677235180 18101 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is the following true? If you have a systematic n+p erasure code, and you can recover all n data shards from any subset of n shards, then you can't recover any missing data shard from a subset smaller than n shards. < 1677235223 9161 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: Yeah, I realize that the logo is kind of optional and could be a lie. But somehow, original media tend to both include a logo and not lie ;-) < 1677235245 24308 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :what does "systematic" mean in that? < 1677235255 850262 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's probably some trademark protection to ensure that. < 1677235333 793186 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasure_code#Near-optimal_erasure_codes suggests that without the systematic bit it's not true < 1677235378 632463 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, systematic means that some of the shards have the data split but without further transformed < 1677235383 186458 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: that's obviously false? imagine that you have one of the direct-mapped shards < 1677235412 192469 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah yes, int-e has a point\ < 1677235429 607629 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it would have to be a secret-sharing code, which is kind of the opposite of systematic, for that to be true < 1677235438 475730 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't follow. < 1677235455 113867 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: let's make this even more silly: imagine p = 0. < 1677235470 810677 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Then you certainly can't recover any missing data shard. < 1677235487 589501 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, that's what you mean by "missing". < 1677235498 554966 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Right, I should have phrased that better. < 1677235514 534303 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Recover any data shard from a set of other shards that's smaller than n. < 1677235518 427917 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I, uh, missed that word when reading. < 1677235540 871998 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you want to recover a full shard? < 1677235559 167870 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it's still not true in theory then, but may be true in practice < 1677235660 926799 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because if you make each shard just one bit, and take a set of shards that differs in just one bit from an invalid combination, then you can recover the bit on the shard where it differs from that invalid combination < 1677235677 340434 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but this isn't a complete proof because maybe you can't slice to single bits in such a code < 1677235708 532807 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Slicing to single bits limits you severely for erasure codes. < 1677235747 858738 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: Yeah, it's true, by counting. If you have m+q < n shards, then you can fill that up to (n-q)+q = n shards filling in any values you like for the missing shards, and each of the resulting data has to correspond to data from some n original shards. < 1677235808 877042 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"the missing shards" -- I mean the n-q-m originally missing shards that you're adding when filling up. < 1677235974 29335 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :What are m and q here? < 1677235993 397803 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the number of original and parity shards that survived erasure, respectively. < 1677235999 897634 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :m <= n, q <= p < 1677236061 18656 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's not really necessary to distinguish those, I guess... but it helped me to think about this. < 1677236075 94427 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, got it. < 1677236155 786106 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see the argument. That's pretty good! < 1677236160 497398 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Are you aware of a standard convention for naming those numbers?) < 1677236191 252890 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Specifically, I guess, imagine you could recover a data shard using n-1 other shards. Then you'd have n shards, which lets you recover everything. < 1677236198 946329 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :But there should never be a situation where you can recover everything from n-1 shards. < 1677236262 604114 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Or should there? I guess that still needs to be proved but it seems more straightforward.) < 1677236265 135822 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Now that's just plain counting... B^(n-1) < B^n, where B = 2^b is the number of possible values per b-bit block. < 1677236284 759862 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :except for the useless case b = 0. < 1677236330 22665 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Right, I was imagining maybe some encodings let you recover all the data from n-1 shards, but that would be magic pigeonhole-violating compression. < 1677236330 884088 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(You have a 0-bit block? Wait, don't tell me, I think it's this: ) < 1677236367 158573 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(What an amazing magical trick, amiright?) < 1677236398 713627 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I lost a (-∞)-bit block, can you figure out what its value was? < 1677236418 452782 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wait! < 1677236419 937175 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have trouble making sense of that. < 1677236448 4434 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm making up a number of bits for an uninhabited type. < 1677236464 798982 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess calling log(0) -∞ or something. < 1677236469 670192 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, thanks, this is great. < 1677236502 549236 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah. So it doesn't make sense in a very formal, uh, sense. < 1677236504 230776 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: if it's not an optimal erasure code, then it will store a little bit less net data than you can fit on the required number of shards, right? < 1677236584 790024 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/sense ...that desn't really help. < 1677236600 554948 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not very formal. Also, I was lying, I didn't ever have an inhabitant of an uninhabited type. I wish! < 1677236603 727881 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, "meaning". < 1677236629 469405 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It was a vacuous thought. < 1677236638 97282 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: That sounds reasonable. < 1677236711 270577 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :People *do* make codes where you can recover some shards from a smaller set of other shards. < 1677236738 71479 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I think they pay for that with needing extra shards in some other cases, for particular patterns of erasures. So you write out more data overall. < 1677236743 918016 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :That makes sense; some shards may be more important than others. < 1677236749 753032 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :E.g. https://errorcorrectionzoo.org/c/locally_recoverable < 1677236763 443276 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: And we've just proved that you do have to pay for that. < 1677236769 314652 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yep. < 1677236847 184249 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean one obvious thing you can do is to have an n+p and n'+p' code side by side. But in the worst case you only survive erasure of min(p, p') shards. < 1677236855 724482 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :So a simple thing you can do is something like this 4+3 encoding matrix: [[1 1 0 0] [0 0 1 1] [a b c d]] < 1677236864 587514 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I imagine that you can do better. < 1677236888 50750 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's an instance of that, isn't it? 1+1 side by side another 1+1 < 1677236894 574055 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :+with < 1677236904 375746 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe I misread < 1677236929 30911 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh there's a parity row, assuming [a b c d] is [1 1 1 1]? < 1677236942 985338 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, now imagine a code that's very far from optimal so you'd never use it in practice. stores two bits net in six shards, each shard one bit. the encoding is 00=>001000, 01=>010100, 10=>100010, 11=>110001, the first two bits are the systematic ones. you can recover the data from any 4 shards, but not always from 3 shards eg. 0???00 is ambiguous. < 1677236943 484180 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but you can recover all shards from just 00???? < 1677236945 928004 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think you don't want it to be [1 1 1 1], you want it to be linearly independent. < 1677236990 71294 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess I should just say, you have w,x,y,z, and your shards are w+x, y+z, and aw+bx+cy+dz < 1677236997 127663 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: I guess I'm not in the mood to think this through. < 1677237021 576283 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :So if you lose one of the shards in the first or second group, you can recover with just the two others in that group. < 1677237041 616455 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also from ????00 you can recover the first shard but not the others < 1677237059 811899 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :And if you lose one shard in each group as well as a parity shard, you can still recover. < 1677237124 110130 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :But if you lose both shards in one group, and that group's parity shard or the global one, then you're stuck. So you can't recover from all 3-failures (as we know). < 1677237148 14479 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, that's a much better example! < 1677237163 470357 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because it works regardless the data, after choosing just which shards you haven't lost < 1677237165 762576 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe the idea here is that a bunch of failures in one group are less likely than the same number of failures spread throughout your entire system. < 1677237266 728758 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So there's a (probably hard) design problem here... given n + p devices with known failure probabilities p_i (1 <= i <= n+p), design an erasure code that maximizes the probability of full recovery. < 1677237286 287790 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(not necessarily systematic) < 1677237318 603798 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Man, in the sort of context I'm normally thinking of this in, systematic codes are all that matters. < 1677237339 516381 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Though I'm not sure whether you actually get anything from being non-systematic? < 1677237343 717742 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Though I think with linear codes we can always make them systematic if we want. < 1677237362 633218 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :With linear codes certainly. < 1677237387 273176 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: that's usually the opposite of the normal assumption, which is that failures together in the same group are more likely than other failures. unless you have just four shards that form two groups in two ways so diagonal failures are less likely, but that doesn't work well for more shards. < 1677237392 797549 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Are there any non-linear codes that people use in practice? < 1677237476 20594 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm. Maybe they're useful in contexts where errors are asymmmetric (so a 1 bit is more likely to be flipped than a 0 bit, or vice versa) < 1677237479 288035 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: Is that the normal assumption? < 1677237495 239353 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think this grouping idea is probably common even with just regular erasure codes. < 1677237499 711066 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The theory I know is all linear codes anyway. < 1677237554 339046 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Except for the Hamming bound I guess, that's generic counting. < 1677237557 912510 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Say you're just duplicating your data: You choose two disks in your data center and write a copy of your data to each one. < 1677237564 343805 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :And you have lots of little files so you do this everywhere. < 1677237580 916035 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Then if any pair of disks in your data center fails, you're pretty much guaranteed to lose some data. < 1677237628 601926 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Instead, you can say: Pre-group your disks into pairs in some arbitrary way (hopefully not correlated by manufacturing data or whatever). Then when you want to write a file, always write your two copies to the disks in one of the pairs. < 1677237644 753401 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Now the failure probability should be much lower, right? < 1677237661 742093 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :But in the case of a failure you've lost a lot more data, and maybe the EV ends up being the same. < 1677237678 648368 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh wait, I do know of some non-linear codes. Stuff like MFM, which is constrained by the frequency of bit flips. Totally different context, of course. < 1677237693 549023 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :But that's good, you probably want to shift your EV into a tiny probability of catastrophic failiure, rather than high probability of a little bit of failure. < 1677237863 528133 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, I don't know this MFM thing. < 1677237942 827954 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :This, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modified_frequency_modulation < 1677238014 662142 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Notice that in this grouping scheme I described, you can lose a full 50% of your disks without losing any data. *And* you're not writing any more data than the theoretical optimal 1+1 erasure code. < 1677238075 78655 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :You're describing RAID 1 < 1677238174 613573 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure, the 1+1 bit isn't important. < 1677238189 358041 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: I think so. the ECC on CD is designed to recover data from scratches on the metal film, that causes errors close to each other. or if you send data on a bunch of cables, then the backhoe that it summons will cut several adjacent cables. or if you send data by radio from a distant spacecraft then the noise source that masks the signal will < 1677238189 857104 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :come in a spike burst that erases several bits adjacent in time. < 1677238189 976650 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :You can group your disks into groups of 10 and use an 8+2 code or whatever. < 1677238240 471227 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: Right, that's fair, you do want to avoid those kinds of correlated failures. I was describing a thing where you pregroup your disks randomly to avoid that. < 1677238246 505186 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, not scratches in the plastic? < 1677238276 698863 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I thought the metal film was reasonably well protected... until the advent of super-cheap CD-R media. < 1677238293 211053 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: more importantly, if you have data on 300 hard disks, of which 100 are WD and 100 are Samsung and 100 are whatever the third brand is, then the 100 that's from one same model will have 50 failures and the other 200 will have 2 failures < 1677238306 526592 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I'm not sure. < 1677238328 949201 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: That sounds like an argument for constructing your groups with one of each, or something. < 1677238345 288169 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Then you can lose all your thirdbrand disks and still lose no data. < 1677238377 348121 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean this might not apply now when all the hard disks are made in one factory so the whole world's modern hard disks will fail together, but even so models might differ a bit < 1677238392 366440 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Hmm, I don't know what kind of material the writable part of CD-R media uses.) < 1677238476 67326 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Technology... it's all elves and magic dust when you go deep enough. < 1677238503 743688 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: yeah, then it kind of depends on how you form the assumption. failure across your group is less likely than failure of two randomly chosen disks, so in that sense what you say is true. but I don't think that's the best way to model failures. < 1677238604 644113 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :apparently the big manufacturers are WD, Seagate, Toshiba. not Samsung, they make solid-state drives. < 1677238751 607260 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs : shouldn've known that, I specifically bought hard disks from all three manufacturers recently, and those three were already the brands. < 1677238773 166409 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but recently means 2020-11 so not that recent < 1677238791 978789 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1677238809 602873 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1677238831 104993 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: Why not? < 1677238939 251849 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1677238996 949875 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :why do we still call them "drives" < 1677239060 734469 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Actually I don't know the etymology of that in the first place. < 1677239103 129218 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1677239146 678839 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, it makes sense for FDD, it's the thing that makes the disk move. And that extends to HDD. But an SSD has nothing that has to be physically moved. < 1677239220 8691 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: you should model it as the groups being in the other direction, and errors are more frequent within a group, even if that's not the same groups how you divide the data to independent parts < 1677239261 448348 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Man, modern flash is so good. < 1677239274 622400 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, in many ways it's terrible. But still. < 1677239404 394713 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Flash! A-ah! He's a miracle! < 1677239427 401233 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess the "drive" is just legacy at this point, like so much other terminology that gets inherited even if it doesn't necessarily strictly make sense anymore < 1677239450 568951 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I don't think it has to have a moving part. imagine "drive" as hardware "driver". the important part is that some of the complex non-repeating part that handles the mechanics or electronic logic is in the drive (the rest are on the motherboard or extension card), while the repeating part that stores lots of raw data in bulk isn't the drive. < 1677239451 67683 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :for traditional removable media like floppy disks or tape this was obvious: the drive is everything but the tape or disk. for an SD card it's not so, the drive is mostly on the card itself, not the reader or motherboard. but part of your HDD or SSD is the drive electronics, even if it also has the non-drive storage part. for a HDD you can even < 1677239451 567860 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :replace the drive part, because it's on a PCB that you can disconnect (loses warranty but can be worth if the data is very valuable). < 1677239460 120370 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: We could be looking at LCD tubes. :) < 1677239461 91195 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so "drive" is a metonym for the whole drive + storage thing < 1677239484 992138 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(But I guess flat screens lack the depth that we associated with the tubes.) < 1677239485 617950 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe we should call it "controller" instead of "drive" < 1677239505 414063 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :why do we still call it "taping" to record someone when it doesn't involve a tape < 1677239510 177074 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :or something* < 1677239515 408934 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :like a RAM controller, which may still be partly on the RAM PCB but partly in a separate smaller chip than the chips that store the gigabytes < 1677239520 787049 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :why do we call movies "flicks", etc < 1677239560 949546 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: sure, probably mostly just a legacy name < 1677239618 199192 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: Yeah, anachronisms. When was the last time you hung up on somebody? < 1677239642 587796 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :
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ACTION . o O ( why do we call the computers that mostly go on the desk 'laptops' )
< 1677239738 527095 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, that remind me, why are monitors called "screen"? is it called that from the magic cheese grater in color CRTs that has red/green/blue colored holes in different angles through it? < 1677239746 266678 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the computers that mostly go below the desk are 'desktop' PCs < 1677239791 891502 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :mine is on the desk < 1677239804 78230 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: we call movies "films" actually < 1677239865 144546 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also we call shops "stores", but that makes more sense because some people call workshops "shops" so it helps to distinguish them < 1677239908 883171 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :calling movies "films" seems like an anachronism too :p < 1677239940 312122 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh hello, OOM killer, you killed the right process, how did my whole session die? < 1677239952 811546 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :can't imagine many of them are shot on film anymore < 1677240053 366226 :Riviera!~Riviera@user/riviera PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls507645320/ < 1677240072 495849 :Riviera!~Riviera@user/riviera PRIVMSG #esolangs :surely not complete, but i found this interesting < 1677240074 462754 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :huh, well the more you know < 1677240076 528534 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :mm < 1677240324 166110 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that reminds me? can you point me to a webpage that tells about the various audio formats that films used on film? IIRC there were like five different generations of them, the first ones analog and the alter ones digital, and they cramped them to increasingly smaller unused spaces remaining on the film so they can be combined on the same film for < 1677240324 665722 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :backwards compatibility. < 1677240334 120969 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1677240375 31837 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677240398 994613 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the first one is like a huge wide strip next to the image, then the next ones go to narrower strips that we can use with lower tolerance mechanical equipment, then one goes to the spaces between the cog holes, and I think we haven't got to the part yet where they go in the wedge of the rounded corners around the cog holes but that would probably < 1677240399 493112 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :have to be the next one < 1677240436 967579 :Riviera!~Riviera@user/riviera PRIVMSG #esolangs :come on, google :) < 1677240568 970109 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm trying. it's hard exactly because "film" is used for newer stuff that's not celluloid film and that's most of the hits < 1677240655 760764 :Riviera!~Riviera@user/riviera PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound-on-film < 1677240688 729333 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, thank you < 1677240713 345546 :Riviera!~Riviera@user/riviera PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably a good starting point, many pointers in sections "Sound-on-film formats" and "See also" < 1677240730 713060 :Riviera!~Riviera@user/riviera PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah adn the categories < 1677240776 731016 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677240867 513030 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677241374 891185 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, so there are only four areas for different sound formats apparently: one just has time code to synchronize with audio stored externally, one is the traditional backwards compatible analog one that has all sorts of variants to represent multiple sound channels, and two digital ones < 1677241402 32858 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :all this is on 35 mm film < 1677241436 541361 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and there are lots of experimental minor sound formats, some of which might use other areas or something < 1677241446 326004 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sounds like a Technology Connections YouTube video. < 1677241498 866919 :Riviera!~Riviera@user/riviera PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: haha, i just wanted to say exactly the same :DD < 1677242314 880278 :AnotherGuest67!~AnotherGu@host-79-30-66-52.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] AnotherGuest67 < 1677242692 92126 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1677243510 43999 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, I wonder if there were film cameras and projectors that used a synchronized pair of films with the frames alternating on them so that the time when one film is advanced between the frames can be covered by the frame from the other film < 1677244880 544633 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, imagine that backwards. instead of digital audio encoded in unused parts of the film, the audio is analog on a vinyl disk, since all moviegoers know that vinyl disks have better audio quality than any other technology, while the video is on a tiny MicroSD card glued in a careful position of the back of the vinyl disk, and the player just < 1677244881 51613 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :aligns that and copies the gigabytes of video data to its internal memory before it spins up the disk to play the audio. < 1677245796 585216 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"film" -- at least "movie" is rather timeless :) < 1677245931 161242 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"camera" though... < 1677246115 131928 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, you were right, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg--L9TKL0I is the Technology Connections YouTube video < 1677246209 190325 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, light and sound, the marvels of electricity < 1677246279 937589 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"camera" is timeless too, that just means your photosensor is in a box where the only light can come in through the lens < 1677246298 486727 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I already know about sound on film. < 1677246347 157667 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:35mm_film_audio_macro.jpg < 1677246366 890046 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Note the backward compatibility layers. < 1677246409 134650 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: yep, Riviera linked to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound-on-film which links there < 1677246630 822668 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I didn't know about the 72 Hz trick (around 5:20 in the video). < 1677247052 598934 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :pfft < 1677247065 947635 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :video gets out of sync when he mentions sound synchronization < 1677247122 287459 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: that's deliberate < 1677247128 862273 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: he specifically says afterwards < 1677247149 968868 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course < 1677247166 213485 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I laughed. < 1677247272 812438 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is a good technology connections video on that, yeah < 1677247274 94340 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Especially since this is a real life issue we sometimes have in this digital age. Which is kind of embarrassing. (Yeah, I know, separate data streams. Also, frequently, separate processing pipelines on the production side.) < 1677247279 330372 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah it was linked < 1677247314 68268 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs : "camera" though... <- they don't even have much of a chamber in them anymore... < 1677247323 126701 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: exactly < 1677247323 344153 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :or any < 1677247363 271503 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: yeah, I know. it sometimes seems to happen with capture cards. I don't understand why. < 1677247421 119839 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also I never made the connection between sound on film and the "track" in "sound track". Though magnetic tapes also have tracks. < 1677247421 354285 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: they do have a chamber. the sensor that detects the light is inside an opaque box that ensures that light only comes in through the lens. that's still a constant in all our cameras, I believe. < 1677247451 249642 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I think "track" is from vinyl disks mainly, since the sound track is etched in it < 1677247468 925540 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :at least that's what I always assumed, but maybe I'm too young < 1677247493 288338 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :isn't that called a groove < 1677247500 239859 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :both < 1677247503 386235 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :a groove and a track < 1677247518 774246 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so two anachronystic English words < 1677247528 964880 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess technically there still is a chamber, it's just so small especially on modern smartphone cameras < 1677247531 156169 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the like < 1677247831 164350 :AnotherGuest67!~AnotherGu@host-79-30-66-52.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1677247857 894386 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :on modern smartphones it's small because the camera is a separately manufactured kind-of self-contained box that you may be able to replace, especially if it's not an Apple phone. I think on some photo cameras the whole chassis serves as the chamber, though I'm not sure about this < 1677247879 881635 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll have to look at a teardown video to make sure < 1677247958 432790 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.2.194 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677248028 630414 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"code unto others as you would have others code unto you"... how old is that clip? < 1677248222 210035 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I'd guess 80s < 1677248357 287262 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1677248419 608310 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"clip < 1677248436 572752 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"clip" - and another word that's been divorced from its original meaning < 1677248499 658967 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(When's the last time you've literally cut film? I don't remember ever doing that.) < 1677248514 127176 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1677248548 837193 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was wrong, there's an inner dark chamber in at least the compact camera in (warning: destructive disassembly so may be painful to watch) https://youtu.be/gScwGhRSQFI?t=708 . it's more complicated for DSLRs where the light has to get into the separate viewfinder < 1677248633 798639 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah you'll typically need some distance between optics and the film or sensor. But it's so tiny these days compared to the original huge boxes. < 1677248665 632342 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh now I'm just reminded of the videogame sense of 'clipping' and I guess gamedev/speedrun terminology is another whole can of worms :p < 1677248670 488905 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :when it comes to that < 1677248677 63686 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yeah language just changes over time < 1677248686 513335 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, lots of technology got tiny. compare the first huge hard disks to current ones for example. < 1677248698 448004 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: Hah. Well, that's a different meaning of "clip" entirely. < 1677248700 791026 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :especially current notebook hard disks < 1677248727 128173 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well. Hmm. I guess it still has to do with cutting things off. < 1677248728 683903 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: kinda, but I think somewhat related? < 1677248747 37822 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And then evolved from there. < 1677248747 733804 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :comes from the computer graphics sense of clipping, which descends from the film sense I'd imagine < 1677248770 444203 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :More the graphics sense than the film sense. < 1677248811 877477 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, I'm not actually sure but I figured the graphics sense comes from doing effects on film by physically cutting it < 1677248823 420913 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :actually, speaking of that.. burn, dodge, screen :p < 1677248837 725073 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :also I suppose the entire concept of 'frame' < 1677248858 548415 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(The film sense cuts pieces of film to be reassembled... you'll cut between frames but it's not really about the image being displayed; the graphics sense is about picking out a subimage for a frame or possiblyu clip-art as part of another image.) < 1677248870 482398 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah right < 1677248880 461070 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or maybe both the graphics and film sense come from the ordinary gardening meaning < 1677248887 985805 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :I didn't know clip was used in that sense for film, I thought that was just a cut < 1677248894 137988 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :(between frames) < 1677248914 481716 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :(which hey, is another term in that vein too) < 1677248916 500398 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: well twitch uses it in the film sense of cutting a part of a longer film in the time direction < 1677248934 267436 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh right, yes < 1677248937 760697 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but cutting, clipping, or pruning are basically the same < 1677248941 171502 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: it's perfectly analogous except it works in the time dimension < 1677248951 842441 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :which graphics doesn't even have < 1677248976 568589 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :
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< 1677248984 553571 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :even if you cut a corner with a racecar, or make a crazy clip in Mario Kart to shorten the lap to less than half, or clip out of bounds in a platformer < 1677249026 139681 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and then you transfer the graphics meaning... which becomes clipping planes when doing 3D projection to collision detection, which is also about plane intersections... < 1677249067 449015 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and you end up with a quite different phenomenon that's still called "clipping" (and is actually a failure of clipping if you follow the etymology) < 1677249114 402136 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah yes, there's also clipping in the signal dimension, which means your audio or video signal goes beyond the range of what you can represent < 1677249137 315033 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :well the "cutting corners" sense comes more directly/obviously from like, cutting corners off with a scissor < 1677249144 945338 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :(in my head at least) < 1677249164 840303 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :what? no! < 1677249170 91606 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :who'd cut the corners from a film? < 1677249179 298093 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wouldn't < 1677249179 663112 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cutting corners comes from driving a car or motorbike < 1677249196 243528 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :why does the car "cut"? < 1677249209 58735 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it lets you make a shortcut but means you're going off your designated part of the road which might be dangerous < 1677249221 267446 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: Oh "clipping" has at least two meanings in that context. < 1677249232 421427 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :One where you barely touch an edge or something. < 1677249245 88029 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :isn't that what cutting a corner means? < 1677249254 777836 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And the other where you have a clipping *bug* that lets you through walls and the like. < 1677249279 772490 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: ok, and what do you call the video game bug zipping instead of clipping? < 1677249283 670708 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/what/when/ < 1677249305 90489 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't call anything zipping? < 1677249317 761767 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: yes, but in my head at least that sense of cutting a corner could come from cutting corners off of a piece of paper, replacing a 90° bend with a 45° cut that is shorter < 1677249318 532726 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Except the zip mode in Myst. < 1677249321 131779 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :but maybe that's all wrong :p < 1677249341 691753 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: it was that sense of cutting a corner that I was thinking of the etymology of (taking a shortcut) < 1677249342 558131 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess zipping is when you're out of bounds and the video game has code that is meant to put you back from slightly out of bounds to in bounds and so you move really fast out of bounds < 1677249350 42408 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And using the zip file compressor, and, well, zipping zippers on clothes. < 1677249357 878323 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think clipping can lead to zipping < 1677249376 822979 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh it's the zip line kind of zipping. < 1677249397 69411 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cut_off_a_corner < 1677249397 762851 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: hmm, maybe the car meaning comes from the traditional meaning, but I don't often cut off a *corner* from a piece of paper so I'm not sure < 1677249408 15923 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :fair < 1677249428 136886 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: or https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cut_corners#Verb < 1677249429 396610 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :(linking that because it's interesting it has a longer form than just "cut corner") < 1677249438 405154 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah < 1677249550 870794 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :are we verbally cutting corners? < 1677249579 498381 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ouch, no, that would cause bleeding < 1677249613 214920 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and if it's inside your mouth it can't even be bandaged properly so it's harder to heal < 1677249628 359937 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs : Oh it's the zip line kind of zipping. <- I think in games that originated with megaman, which had a bug where if you approach a wall at the right place you get quickly moved across the screen as the collision code tries to displace you < 1677249636 55257 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :...but it's possibly from ziplines < 1677249654 742998 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, there's also the meaning of just going fast < 1677249658 459186 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know. < 1677249676 70135 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :etymology is more fun when you make up half the connections yourself :) < 1677249741 123107 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs ::p < 1677249756 473481 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh... anachronisms: https://xkcd.com/890/ < 1677249767 766046 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :I found a random website of someone speculating/guessing that "cutting corners" could be from tailoring to save material < 1677249780 318298 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that's no more backed up :p < 1677249801 480135 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :but basically along the lines I was thinking, that the "cutting" of corners might be backed by physical cutting < 1677249814 883865 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and translated to shortcuts by analogy) < 1677249837 313217 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :(... I suppose even the word "shortcut" ...) < 1677249926 604978 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think that makes too much sense. how would corners help in that? < 1677249994 901217 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, I'm not sure either < 1677250007 730374 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The racing story (you have a track to follow; it's shorter if you cut a corner) is so damn plausible. < 1677250027 664871 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: sure, but why is that called "cut"? < 1677250048 739888 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because it looks like you're cutting off a corner? < 1677250104 54485 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also... shortcut. Which may be circular. < 1677250129 639680 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's things like "cutting through the woods" < 1677250130 503081 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :conveniently a shortcut is the shortest cut you can make, like, mathematically :p < 1677250139 709813 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Which might be related? < 1677250150 545848 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :true, I wonder what order those came in though < 1677250156 140132 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :I could see "cutting" as short for "shortcutting" < 1677250164 588798 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :clipping (heh) the word < 1677250165 542151 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and that one might be from cutting down trees to make a path < 1677250176 83241 :craigo_!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1677250179 51911 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and now we're truly going in circles) < 1677250180 982329 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or brush, at least < 1677250202 125000 :craigo_!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677250202 402432 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :which is something you might even do with a sword rather than axes or saws < 1677250209 387496 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: "cutting" for "shortcutting" is not an explanation, you still have to explain why "shortcutting" is called that instead of "shortgoing" or somethi8ng < 1677250232 382941 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, I just mean that the "cutting through the woods" might be more recent < 1677250243 222126 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, I'm firmly back at "I don't know". But it's still fun to speculate. < 1677250245 198704 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I'm just pseculating < 1677250248 617522 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :speculating* < 1677250251 493783 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :yep < 1677250262 885643 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :what's the german word for a shortcut? < 1677250288 213033 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I saw a discussion recently on what meaning of "wing" came from which other meaning < 1677250309 810208 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :right-wing party? < 1677250328 580131 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry, I mean as a verb < 1677250358 921112 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :what other sense than to "wing it" as in improvise? < 1677250372 341905 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(clearly that's people gathering and having fun in the right part of a building, while the left part complains about the noise and vouches to have a left-wing party some day) < 1677250392 26671 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677250439 973618 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"winging it" is a good one... I have no theory for that one < 1677250468 823564 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't remember, something about almost crashing or crashing with a vehicle (presumably originally an airplane that has a wing) or missing or almost missing the vehicle with a missile < 1677250481 719620 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :something something world war I air fights something < 1677250519 108522 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I typed that before I read wib_jonas's message) < 1677250544 747866 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://english.stackexchange.com/a/353390 oh fun < 1677250556 330008 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :[ORIGIN: from theatrical slang, originally meaning [to play a role without properly knowing the text] (either by relying on a prompter in the wings or by studying the part in the wings between scenes).] < 1677250578 469771 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :so truly from a "fuck it, we'll do it live" sense :p < 1677250595 232481 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"prompter in the wings" < 1677250610 405954 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that works < 1677250923 480089 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also I was recently looking up and talking about elsewhere something about chess. so there's this semi-mythical story where the ancestor of chess the game comes from India, and the pieces represent the four "branches of military": pawns for infantry, knights for cavalry, bishops for elephantry, and rooks for chariotry (represented by a camel). < 1677250923 979064 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :except that some websites say, equally confidently, that the rooks come from elephantry and the bishops from chariotry. I only found one website that mentions both and confronts the ambiguity of what the elephant represents. < 1677251073 194648 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's evidence for both. the modern name of the bishop comes from words from elephants in french and russian and more languages. but there are also claims that in some indian languages it's the name of the rook that's comes from the elephant. there are old chess sets that use an elephant to represent one of the rook or bishop, and in at least one < 1677251073 693578 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the elephant clearly represents the rook (usually I can't tell from looking at the figures which represents which). and it gets muddled because sometimes the king and queen (or just one) are represented by elephants, or that plus the bishop or knight. < 1677251131 581411 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it gets especially funny when they claim that the elephant originally represented a piece that's the precursor of the bishop that moves exactly two squares diagonally and, according to some sources and/or in some variants, it can leap over a chess piece doing that. < 1677251208 384071 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :http://history.chess.free.fr/india.htm is the one website that mentions the ambiguity of which piece the elephant represents < 1677251303 653211 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, and it gets hard to search because "elephant chess" usually takes you to some opening called the "elephant gambit". the name of that may be related to the piece, whichever it is, but that doesn't help. < 1677252777 585141 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :question. how do I clone a remote git repository, but filter out some subdirectories that have too much data, to conserve disk space, because the maintainer put large files that I don't need into a git repository together with small files that are useful for me < 1677252784 714975 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1677253068 140111 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm https://git-scm.com/docs/git-sparse-checkout has positive and negative patterns in its cone mode < 1677253138 659643 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But does that only work with checkouts or does it also prune the store? Idon'tknow. < 1677253139 218348 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: isn't that only for workspaces as opposed to the objects stored in my repo? < 1677253142 530991 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :git clone --filter can do it, and e.. filter files over a certain sizes < 1677253236 402707 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sknebel: I'll look at that, thank you. < 1677253282 82987 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, --filter doesn't seem to support path names? < 1677253330 987743 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1677253634 412120 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, probably because it filters individual objects, and those don't have path information in them < 1677253651 222861 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, not quite < 1677253653 161188 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Mercurial can do narrow clones with path-based inclusion/exclusion. < 1677253663 949251 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Doesn't help much with a Git repo, of course. < 1677253668 562207 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :apparently it does do some recursive thingy < 1677253685 150690 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah right. afaik you need to combine filter and sparse-checkout < 1677253702 486979 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :using filter to prevent the blobs being downloaded in the initial clone < 1677253719 697630 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :and then sparse checkout to only checkout (and thus force to be downloaded) what you need < 1677253736 286030 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :and no, none of this is particularly user-friendly ... < 1677253796 533055 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/topics/git/partial_clone.html#filter-by-file-path < 1677253796 934551 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1677253799 847230 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: well that depends on how much git compatibility Mercurial has. git has an open format so multiple vc software read it, but usually they read it just enough to say you can convert your existing git repo to their repo once. < 1677253801 486097 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :something like that < 1677253829 685244 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sknebel: ah, also looks useful < 1677254216 700969 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1677254686 202558 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :thanks for the hints < 1677254688 570368 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1677256507 767585 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bruhfunk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107024&oldid=105541 5* 03Nurdle 5* (+0) 10/* External Resources */ < 1677257298 596677 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, --filter reads a specification from a blob. So you have to dump a file into the repo (not necessarily in the master branch) that contains a spec like '/*\n!/excluded-directory', then refer to it when cloning like `git clone file://src dst --filter=sparse:oid=sparse:sparse --sparse, and then populate .git/info/sparse (say, git cat-file sparse:sparse-checkout > .git/info/sparse-checkout , and... < 1677257304 594150 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :...then checkout. Oh and this only works if the source repo enables uploadpack.allowFilter) < 1677257307 586588 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So complicated! < 1677257420 914125 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe even --global if it's remote? Unclear; my test seems to have worked with a local setting, but I only used file://. < 1677257796 6143 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also works for ssh protocol; I guess the global option remark is for serving via https, where repo configurations may be untrusted. < 1677259042 4797 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu JOIN #esolangs * :b_jonas < 1677259387 242229 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1677261451 26568 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677269418 678618 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677269496 838527 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a JOIN #esolangs fungot :fungot-0.1 < 1677270236 689912 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :can you turn any file into a zip file containing it by just reading it and appending to it, i.e. in place and writing nowhere but past its original end? < 1677270386 487235 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think there's a mandatory "local" per-file header in front of each file entry. < 1677270399 406322 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(In addition to the central directory at the back.) < 1677270445 371773 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZIP_(file_format)#Local_file_header "-- is immediately followed by the compressed data." < 1677270452 603762 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :So I suspect the answer is no, sad as it is. < 1677270517 156475 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Unless you count writing a (potentially compressed) redundant copy of the original file past its original end, but that seems like it shouldn't count. > 1677270855 33303 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OISC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107025&oldid=106556 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+1) 10/* List of OISCs */ < 1677271959 32461 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see < 1677271996 180747 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :pity with the global header being at the end < 1677273645 753800 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-28-167.monradsl.monornet.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677275450 526191 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677276622 978007 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :One of these days I'll actually get a rsync command correct the first time around. I keep forgetting how it interprets a trailing slash in the source/destination specification. < 1677279764 543003 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677280538 549125 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a JOIN #esolangs fungot :fungot-0.1 < 1677280912 166097 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :you and me both < 1677280947 514148 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :at least GNU tar(1) is easier these days, you can just tar xf and have it handle compression automagically < 1677281412 33870 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1677281420 682634 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677283780 285743 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1677284574 785400 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu JOIN #esolangs * :b_jonas < 1677284619 841566 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: you think so? how do you spell the options that make tar not chown and not chmod when extracting files as root? < 1677284767 938814 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'd check the manpage for that, it doesn't usually come up :p < 1677284896 416857 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :funnily I didn't use to have a problem with the compression options. -z for gzip, -j for bzip2, those were all the formats I encountered < 1677285068 381500 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also I almost always type xvf instead of just xf < 1677286179 985670 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I usually just use separate program for compression if that is what I want when using tar, such as gzip/zcat < 1677286246 942050 :JAA!~JAA@user/jaa PRIVMSG #esolangs :--auto-compress <3 < 1677286558 793853 :JAA!~JAA@user/jaa PRIVMSG #esolangs :Although I actually usually use unar(1) for extracting. Even easier and has been able to handle pretty much any 'archive' file format I've thrown at it so far. < 1677286688 396725 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :What file formats can it read? There are some files that are rarely implemented. < 1677286817 508624 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :There are some TRON files which seem to be archive files but I do not know what they are and cannot find much information or other stuff. (I could decode some TRON files which are not archive files, such as ones with diagrams, and could decode the outer framing even of the files that I did not otherwise know, but not always the application data) < 1677287093 549269 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: sure, my backup script does (tar -c --null --no-recursion -T | 7z a $filename.t7z -t7z -mx=3 -si$filename.tar) but that's in a config file, I don't try to remembe it < 1677287210 804345 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :For backups I use several other switches as well, including --numeric-owner and --one-file-system < 1677287320 621096 :JAA!~JAA@user/jaa PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: They're listed half-way down the page here: https://theunarchiver.com/ < 1677287367 562237 :JAA!~JAA@user/jaa PRIVMSG #esolangs :(No, it's not a macOS-exclusive thing, even though the website looks like it at first glance.) < 1677287649 893572 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :There are some self-extracting EXE files that 7-Zip could list but not extract. There are some files that I could not find listed here nor with other programs in my computer, or elsewhere. < 1677287699 903613 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Although there are many file formats listed there, they are not nearly all of them. < 1677289630 778834 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.107 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677291488 877520 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1677291739 45750 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1677292329 40013 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.2.47 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677292464 762861 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.107 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677292465 90971 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.2.47 NICK :razetime > 1677296331 641680 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Bbrk24 5* 10New user account > 1677296445 217182 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107026&oldid=107013 5* 03Bbrk24 5* (+209) 10 < 1677297234 770862 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.254 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677297301 6291 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.2.47 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1677297301 232324 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.254 NICK :razetime < 1677297318 306368 :JAA!~JAA@user/jaa PRIVMSG #esolangs :There are always more obscure formats that aren't covered, yeah, but it covers pretty much anything that's reasonably common. > 1677297834 618879 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Trilangle14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107027 5* 03Bbrk24 5* (+2268) 10Create page with initial information > 1677298042 690539 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107028&oldid=106931 5* 03Bbrk24 5* (+16) 10/* T */ Add Trilangle < 1677298377 797636 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677298389 751104 :sam!~sam@lullcec.org JOIN #esolangs * :sam > 1677299815 117096 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Trilangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107029&oldid=107027 5* 03Bbrk24 5* (+1774) 10/* Instruction set */ Added brief overview of instructions > 1677299888 554983 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Trilangle14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107030&oldid=107029 5* 03Bbrk24 5* (+0) 10/* Instruction set */ Wrote the wrong value for 0/3 < 1677301322 105929 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.254 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677302848 310159 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1677302864 764101 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :There are also such things in some formats such as unusual metadata, unusual encodings, etc. Furthermore, some files can be parsed as multiple formats, or cannot be auto-detected, so being able to specify explicitly which format you want, should be a good idea. < 1677303025 603825 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can some of these many formats program to read Famicom Disk System files? < 1677303062 777599 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1677303111 707148 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also there is consideration of different features of file systems and operating systems. For example, on Windows, file names are Unicode and some characters are not allowed (e.g. question marks) and are case-insensitive, but UNIX can have any sequence of bytes other than null and slash, and are case-sensitive. TRON will use TRON character code. Macintosh can have resource fork and data fork. < 1677303142 430339 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :And then, permissions work differently on different systems, too. < 1677303201 786100 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :One format that I had once asked someone making another library to consider is the Hamster archive format, but they did not add it. < 1677305244 188761 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :So say I want to do k/n secret sharing. I have some secret which is an element of a finite field. < 1677305296 968265 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Does the following work? Fix any n×k matrix such that any set of k rows is linearly independent. < 1677305319 489952 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :To split a secret up, pick k-1 random field elements uniformly. Then apply your matrix to the vector (s,r1,r2,...) < 1677305352 202658 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :To recover a secret, invert the matrix consisting of the rows for the shards you have. < 1677305369 404544 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :The answer is no, because "any n×k matrix" is too broad -- for example you don't want the row [1 0 0 ...] < 1677305396 742730 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is "any n×k matrix with no nonzero elements" sufficient? < 1677307832 495630 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.4.254 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677310324 356211 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's not necessary, because, for instance, [[0 1 0] [0 0 1] [a b c] [d e f] [g h i]] can be a valid 3/5 secret-sharing scheme, right? > 1677312792 324957 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MoonScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107031&oldid=106972 5* 03ThisIsTheFoxe 5* (+416) 10Add Turing completeness paragraph written by @ChatGPT > 1677312804 479966 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MoonScript14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107032&oldid=107031 5* 03ThisIsTheFoxe 5* (+1) 10 < 1677315950 988502 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1677319153 278098 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: that sounds like you're trying to generalize the method that uses polynomials < 1677319185 506574 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Right, the Shamir polynomial method uses a Vandermonde matrix, e.g. [[1 1 1] [1 2 4] [1 3 9] ...] < 1677319911 580969 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677322893 510641 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's funny how 5-bit hollerith code didn't originally have a defined bit endianness among the 5 bits of its characters: it was represented as either 5 holes on a tape or 5 bits on a serial line, neither of which per se decide which bit is the least significant, and digits or letters of the alphabet aren't represented in anything resembling the contiguous arrangements of ascii or ebcdic, so you can't < 1677322899 516960 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :tell from those encodings either which bit is least significant. it does kind of have a canonical endianness *now*, because the same serial lines were later used to transfer ascii-related encodings with least significant bit first. < 1677323041 613330 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess Morse is like that too, though I personally consider Morse code as most significant bit first so the table is ETIANMSURWDKGOHVF.L.PJBXCYZQ.. modulo typos < 1677324040 580305 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess https://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/programs/tpk.i also acknowledges or defines a bit endianness for hollerith < 1677324210 359759 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/hollerith/baudot/ argh < 1677325306 25362 :MrAureliusR!~MrAureliu@user/mraureliusr QUIT :Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677325388 774167 :MrAureliusR!~MrAureliu@user/mraureliusr JOIN #esolangs MrAureliusR :Got ZNC? < 1677325945 240486 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1677327227 198680 :AnotherGuest67!~AnotherGu@host-79-30-66-52.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] AnotherGuest67 < 1677329412 668946 :AnotherGuest67!~AnotherGu@host-79-30-66-52.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1677331399 762172 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Thorben3 5* 10New user account < 1677332285 751535 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677332922 644512 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a JOIN #esolangs fungot :fungot-0.1 > 1677335142 12779 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03RixTheTyrunt 5* 10New user account > 1677335265 518825 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107033&oldid=107026 5* 03RixTheTyrunt 5* (+163) 10/* Introductions */ > 1677336093 945574 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hexcellent14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107034 5* 03RixTheTyrunt 5* (+272) 10Added my esolang B) > 1677336144 198545 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hexcellent14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107035&oldid=107034 5* 03RixTheTyrunt 5* (-3) 10 > 1677336161 982956 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hexcellent14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107036&oldid=107035 5* 03RixTheTyrunt 5* (-28) 10 > 1677336404 193487 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107037&oldid=107028 5* 03RixTheTyrunt 5* (+17) 10Hexcellent! > 1677336571 738572 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hexcellent14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107038&oldid=107036 5* 03RixTheTyrunt 5* (+73) 10 < 1677336614 72485 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hello! What's new-ish in the world of esolangs? > 1677337184 533821 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107039&oldid=107033 5* 03RixTheTyrunt 5* (+2) 10/* Introductions */ > 1677337672 804020 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:RixTheTyrunt14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107040 5* 03RixTheTyrunt 5* (+201) 10Created page with "Hey, uuhh... I'm a Tyrunt , I like [[Main Page|Esolangs]] , I programmed [[Hexcellent]] , I have a [https://replit.com/@RixTheTyrunt/ Replit] account , and... I like emojis !" < 1677338195 398363 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677339096 678530 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: The important thing about endianness is that octets are transmitted with the lsb first, but multi-byte words re big endian. That's how it has to be. ;) < 1677339220 355932 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(As you might know, that's the Ethernet reality, despite https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien137.txt warning of exactly that outcome.) < 1677339353 868087 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(TBF, that article was probably a reaction to Ethernet, which was introduced the same year.) < 1677339397 838028 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(And been in development for some years before that.) < 1677339528 273619 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Taneb: I have the feeling that we (this channel) may be out of the loop. There's some addition to the esolangs wiki. Some attempts to strike up chats about them here but the channel is a) extremely slow and b) some people (tm) are bad at joining small talk. < 1677340486 320757 :bgs!~bgs@212.85.160.171 JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1677341869 256977 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I'm definitely very out of the loop. Haven't been looking at the wiki or here for a long time. Decided to open my IRC client up again recently < 1677341950 831908 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Taneb: I guess what I'm saying is that looking at the wiki (recent changes) may be a better bet than asking here :) < 1677341974 795697 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And I guess what I'm saying is "people here please tell me interesting things that you've been working on" < 1677341980 205843 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I hear there's a Discord guild now. < 1677342023 546850 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :("guild" - it was a much more honest term than "server") < 1677342101 938043 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's a sequel to n-Step Steve that kept us busy over christmas, does that count? < 1677342512 769893 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3+b4 - https://znc.in < 1677342512 770139 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3+b4 - https://znc.in < 1677345125 922306 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok wait, so first I have to figure out which way the bits of baudot are even transmitted on serial line. < 1677345253 986500 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :apparently the bits of the five-bit baudot byte are numbered in at least three different ways < 1677345323 815189 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and yes, there's been a discord guild for esolangs or two for a while < 1677345349 516593 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can tell because https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Community_portal links to it < 1677345411 163849 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677345471 565819 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677345678 376368 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :IIUC baudot on serial port transmits the bits starting from the side of the tape to which the tiny cog hole is closer. the circuit is closed by default and for the stop bit and for where there's a hole on the tape, the circuit is open for the start bit and where there's solid paper on the tape < 1677345845 175337 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but there's something strange here < 1677346174 353587 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, so if https://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/programs/tpk.i gives the order of the letters then those bits are transmitted from least significant bit first, which matches how we transmit ASCII IIUC < 1677346352 221459 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I could have gotten something wrong here, I haven't cross-verified this > 1677347232 758227 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Joaozin00314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107041&oldid=106083 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+1) 10 > 1677347609 736988 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Addbig14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107042&oldid=105109 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+12) 10/* Memory Mapping */ > 1677347869 947291 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Addbig14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107043&oldid=107042 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (-13) 10/* The full Addbig instruction */ > 1677347897 248600 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Addbig14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107044&oldid=107043 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (-12) 10 > 1677347933 421793 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Addbig14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107045&oldid=107044 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+6) 10/* The full Addbig instruction */ < 1677349432 197840 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have not been working on many esolangs things recently, but I have done other stuff < 1677350793 786328 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.215.123.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl JOIN #esolangs FreeFull :FreeFull < 1677350963 169333 :AnotherGuest67!~AnotherGu@host-79-30-66-52.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] AnotherGuest67 < 1677351487 701572 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1677351574 717974 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1677354064 883405 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had invented some alternative encodings for the TRON character set, including TRON-5, TRON-6, TRON-6A, TRON-7, TRON-8, TRON-16BE, TRON-16LE, TRON-32BE, TRON-32LE, EUC-TRON, UNI-TRON. (the last one is inefficient and is only intended to use with programs that insist to use Unicode) < 1677354733 841446 :sam!~sam@lullcec.org QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1677356028 753386 :sam!~sam@lullcec.org JOIN #esolangs * :sam < 1677356517 790958 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677356586 655193 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677360335 802703 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677361302 809629 :AnotherGuest67!~AnotherGu@host-79-30-66-52.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1677362309 369758 :bgs!~bgs@212.85.160.171 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677363172 299218 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1677364871 572055 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hexcellent14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107046&oldid=107038 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+58) 10Stub, categories < 1677364919 127879 :TheFloatingPixel!~TheFloati@public-gprs180242.centertel.pl JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] TheFloatingPixel < 1677365138 103899 :TheFloatingPixel!~TheFloati@public-gprs180242.centertel.pl PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hello! I'm new here. I almost finished my first esolang, and wanted to get started on the wiki page. I'm wondering if i should use the {{infobox proglang}} template on my page, or is it something reserved for just some specific langs? I'm wondering because not many pages use this template. < 1677365241 798281 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Looks very generic to me... I'm not sure how many people are aware of its existence. I wasn't :) < 1677365326 852474 :TheFloatingPixel!~TheFloati@public-gprs180242.centertel.pl PRIVMSG #esolangs :I plan on putting all the info that would be there in the text anyway, but was thinking it would be kind of a summary. < 1677365390 907734 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah. < 1677365457 141580 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's definitely nice to have. < 1677365708 174987 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's used on 416 pages, that's quite a lot. < 1677365833 336084 :TheFloatingPixel!~TheFloati@public-gprs180242.centertel.pl PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's more than i thought '=D < 1677372977 975837 :TheFloatingPixel!~TheFloati@public-gprs180242.centertel.pl QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1677374119 734543 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a JOIN #esolangs fungot :fungot-0.1 < 1677374651 484090 :sam!~sam@lullcec.org QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1677374677 752014 :sam!~sam@lullcec.org JOIN #esolangs * :sam < 1677374677 763381 :sam!~sam@lullcec.org QUIT 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#esolangs sprout :sprout < 1677398895 232060 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-6d70-3703-fa0b-223.fixed6.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1677399649 109755 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-6d70-3703-fa0b-223.fixed6.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs * :sprout < 1677399903 972528 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-6d70-3703-fa0b-223.fixed6.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1677400379 379524 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? hyperloo < 1677400382 311712 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :hyperloo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1677400453 406616 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( It features supersonic flushing. ) < 1677400482 871362 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( But it's also connected to a number of mysterious disappearances. ) < 1677401794 568058 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-6d70-3703-fa0b-223.fixed6.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs sprout :sprout < 1677402091 557640 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-6d70-3703-fa0b-223.fixed6.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1677402817 299414 :sprout!~quassel@2a02:a448:3a80:1:6d70:3703:fa0b:223 JOIN #esolangs * :sprout < 1677403099 309384 :sprout!~quassel@2a02:a448:3a80:1:6d70:3703:fa0b:223 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1677403852 13460 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-6d70-3703-fa0b-223.fixed6.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs sprout :sprout < 1677403914 376332 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1677404128 5121 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-6d70-3703-fa0b-223.fixed6.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1677404572 133260 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I got a nice answer here framing it the same way int-e did: https://math.stackexchange.com/a/4642312 < 1677404592 74041 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Though I'd still like to know about the core of the question, on general D+P>q bounds. < 1677405455 170739 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :That indeed looks eerily familiar. < 1677405517 214959 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-6d70-3703-fa0b-223.fixed6.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs * :sprout < 1677405573 361183 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And I think they got about as far as I did? I don't quite recall where exactly I gave up. < 1677405645 901098 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's not of huge practical importance in that you can always make your shards larger relatively cheaply. < 1677405769 931633 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Heck I don't even remember *when* we discussed this here... half a year ago? More? Less? < 1677407967 577299 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Presumably less. < 1677407992 795599 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure I knew anything about erasure codes half a year ago. < 1677409314 175891 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, we were talking about normal error-correcting codes and secret sharing instead < 1677409465 874707 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, looks like we weren't discussing them ebfore 2022-10 < 1677409481 740588 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm. Well, the latter is really close to erasure codes, except that you always erase the original n shards, and p is at least n. < 1677409490 815025 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(or we used other words or codes to mention them so grep doesn't find it) < 1677409518 755214 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677409554 490280 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: kind of, but secret sharing has more strict requirements so that you can never recover parts of the cleartext even probabilistically < 1677409555 749647 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Basically, the design question is the same if you focus on systematic linear codes. < 1677409583 730604 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: we have yesterday's counting argument that ensures the secrets are actually obscured if you have too few shards. < 1677409663 661369 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I think in most secret sharing schemes the secret is just a single shard? < 1677409664 700273 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And in particular, the same "matrix with all square submatrices being invertible" characterization also occurs in the secret sharing case. < 1677409670 738119 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :You add randomness with the other shards. < 1677409695 797950 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION shrugs.
< 1677409712 701366 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe I'll read old logs later now that b_jonas has narrowed it down a bit. < 1677409725 782153 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is the "matrix with all suqare submatrices being invertible" characterization only applicable to systematic codes? < 1677409811 711063 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :As yes, because it interacts with the fixed identity matrix. < 1677409834 305080 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm. < 1677409855 398433 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :The general characterization is "NxK matrix where any KxK submatrix is invertible", presumably. < 1677409856 998095 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I admit I don't feel like thinking too much about this. secret sharing is practically solved to my satisfaction; you need erasure code for raid arrays of hard disks or SSDs but you only need small ones with few shards and for large data and you don't mind a little bit of overhead so it's practically solved too; I feel like the actually important stuff is error-correcting codes rather than erasure codes < 1677409858 590167 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So no, this doesn't apply to secret sharing. But I'm pretty sure *I* ventured into erasure codes last year for some reason. < 1677409881 30488 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :For secret sharing you only care about the maximal square submatrices. < 1677409889 243198 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Yes, error-correcting codes seem a lot more interesting and tricky. < 1677409903 769522 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't even know how to do them efficiently. < 1677409963 338213 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :admittedly you may also want larger erasure codes for long distance radio communication where you transmit shards one after another and there can be radio noise erasing multiple shards, and then you use error-correcting codes inside shards in case parts of them are erased obvisouly, and that combo might work better than a generic error-correction code combination < 1677409975 52895 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean the connection is still there in the sense that if you have a systematic erasure code with sufficiently many parity shards, you can use those parity shards for secret sharing. < 1677409994 760588 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I'm less sure now that this is how I got there. < 1677410066 149529 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but in this radio example too you don't need a perfect code, you can accept a small (compared to your data) overhead and that apparently makes the problem somewhat easier (in some cases at least) < 1677410170 597117 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but also, in the radio case your code unit (or shards) will want to be large, so it's not hard to use a linear scheme based on polynomials in a finite field, right? < 1677410195 845085 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's not the most computationally efficient but not too bad either < 1677410225 418818 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :especially since if you need it at large scale you can make custom hardware for it and then it will be as efficient as any < 1677410704 716950 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean at that point you're using all sorts of funny combinations of error-correcting codes and checksums too so the erasure code isn't really worse < 1677412498 274881 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Presumably you have to use randomness for secret sharing. < 1677412560 410137 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :? < 1677412581 355265 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes. why is that a problem? < 1677412583 601110 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Shamir's secret sharing doesn't need any randomness; it's an information-theoretic argument. < 1677412607 12145 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean, obviously, if the secret is non-random (read: guessable) then you have a problem. < 1677412614 527870 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :How can a deterministic algorithm split a secret? < 1677412680 643586 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :err < 1677412695 982800 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Never mind, I'm still in erasure code mode I think. < 1677412720 639368 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :You need those extra polynomial coefficients and yes, those should better be random. < 1677412892 234427 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can make your secret random with some symmetric cryptography if that helps, that can be worth if the secret is large < 1677412924 742952 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I assume secret sharing usually operates on GF(256) or something. < 1677412927 194805 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it's not forced by some cryptanalysis nonsense like how you make the data that you sign with RSA random < 1677412970 363862 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: in IOCCC yes, but you can use a different field < 1677413128 800874 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1677413447 921142 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm when did debian add non-free-firmware < 1677413798 334545 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: they have had a non-free section that's like not officially part of debian. I have it added in the sources.list but then all packages from it filtered out by default in aptitude so I can install the few GFDL licensed manuals that they somehow consider non-free when they consider gnuplot with its similarly restrictive license free < 1677413805 758945 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :tromp: Hmm is any of the alpha (psuedo-)combinator stuff published? < 1677413849 79310 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I know about that one. But see https://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-nvidia-gsp < 1677413873 414821 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had to add non-free-firmware as well for that. < 1677413877 416194 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :not published, just mentioned in some forums < 1677413904 160890 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: isn't that also in the non-free section? < 1677413938 525850 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nope. Note that this is unstable (sid). I'm sure it's a recent change. < 1677413942 302076 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. in https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/153163/what-is-the-shortest-function-of-lambda-calculus-that-generates-all-functions-of < 1677413946 31743 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :So I quite like this thing about computing Fibonacci numbers using the quotient ring Z[p]/[p^2 = p + 1] < 1677413970 669846 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :And I can see how to make it work for any linear recurrence, and how to show that it works, but I feel like I'm missing some context. < 1677414367 793563 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1677414718 778545 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1677414753 126400 :TheFloatingPixel!~TheFloati@public-gprs180242.centertel.pl JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] TheFloatingPixel < 1677414826 73086 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Ah, this seems relevant: https://www.debian.org/vote/2022/vote_003 ...having a distinct section name helps with managing what goes into the installer. < 1677415309 574531 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: so the non-free firmware remains in a separate section so it's easy to tell which packages are non-free, but they're included on the install DVD? I don't particularly care about what goes to the full DVD because the debian DVDs don't seem to work well in practice anyway < 1677415354 372964 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: as far as I can see they've split non-free into firmware and other stuff (though I don't know what other stuff there is) < 1677415424 51158 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, I don't care beyond the fact that I can now update this system again. < 1677415459 454792 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :after adding non-free-firmware to sources.list < 1677415460 978598 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see. and that applies starting from debian 12 but not to 11, right? < 1677415492 38502 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I assume so. < 1677415501 610250 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It would be crazy to break stable like this. < 1677415554 534419 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, it looks like bullseye doesn't have a non-free-firmware section but bookworm does < 1677415602 517822 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :where are the names for the debian versions listed officially? there used to be a nice link from the debian homepage < 1677415605 380809 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And who knows, maybe they'll make this addition automatic for dist upgrades to the next stable release for installations that include any non-free firmware packages. < 1677415607 783396 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but they like hid it now < 1677415644 840272 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.debian.org/releases/index.en.html < 1677415703 38331 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so 9 is stretch, 10 is buster aka oldstable, 11 is bullseye aka stable, and bookworm is the next one < 1677415706 590424 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah that's the only source I know < 1677415741 79467 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the page is there, they just hid the link from the frontpage < 1677415787 264494 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ftparchives#sourceforcodenames goes back farther, but even https://www.debian.org/releases/index.en.html goes to before I first used Debian < 1677415799 180097 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( what's a front page... I usually bypass those with a search engine ) < 1677415891 620094 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, the FAQ is way better < 1677415920 704203 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ftparchives#sourceforcodenames doesn't acknowledge that "sid" is also an acronym standing for "still in development" < 1677415941 886583 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it does tell what sid is and who Sid in Toy Story is, but not the dual meaning < 1677415949 939894 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/meaning/etymology/ < 1677416018 77701 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1677416077 230312 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm < 1677416086 372044 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :they are going to run out of good codenames in a decade < 1677416121 762947 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"rocky" is still usable, and "spell" probably, and there's an RC car called "RC" but that would be a really bad name for a release because everyone will read it as meaning "release candidate" < 1677416165 260737 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but after that you'll have to use toys from the sequels or something < 1677416208 913438 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and Toy Story 2 adds very few new toys < 1677416313 222395 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( Video title: The Death of Debian ...and then talk about Toy Story characters. ) < 1677416358 331622 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FWIW I didn't even know that that's where they take their names from. < 1677416447 402174 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Debian invests donations into flop sequel Toy Story 5" < 1677416522 902686 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :While critics lament the confusing cast of new characters with no purpose for the story, Debian went on record stating that it was money well spent. < 1677416555 398817 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or they could just go: stretch, buster, bullseye, bookworm, trixie, rocky, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 < 1677416590 830544 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :TRUE, FALSE, FILE_NOT_FOUND < 1677417381 210767 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perhaps they could cut costs if they skip the Hollywood movie that nobody would want to watch anyway. release some tie-in merchandise books and cheap toys, write a bunch of reviews of the first half of the advance screening by reviewers who walked out the room in the middle, document the characters on Wikia and TvTropes, post some social media posts on whatever people use at that time about how the < 1677417387 328450 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :movie is so bad that cinemas don't even bother to show it – no wait, cinemas won't exist anymore, make that streaming providers don't even host the movie < 1677417719 21456 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: isn't it FALSE = 0, TRUE = 1, ENOENT = 2 ? < 1677417791 361399 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :No. The reversal of True and False was almost as hurtful as the extra value: https://thedailywtf.com/articles/What_Is_Truth_0x3f_ < 1677420064 282843 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.215.123.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl JOIN #esolangs FreeFull :FreeFull < 1677422228 171019 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1677427984 461777 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Richard565 5* 10New user account < 1677428369 303962 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.167 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime > 1677428801 143575 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107048&oldid=107039 5* 03Richard565 5* (+213) 10 < 1677430753 294444 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.167 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1677430883 59216 :razetime!~Thunderbi@2401:4900:6284:d6aa:a2fa:b085:54f9:a6af JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677431679 969402 :razetime!~Thunderbi@2401:4900:6284:d6aa:a2fa:b085:54f9:a6af QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1677432917 471288 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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He named it after the song he was > 1677454908 421300 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107061&oldid=107037 5* 03Richard565 5* (+15) 10added Tenshi C < 1677455364 735169 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677455403 754037 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1677459973 37105 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Plasma 5* 10New user account < 1677461015 906106 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677461025 519879 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677461272 312177 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677461388 812965 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677461659 890698 :TheFloatingPixel!~TheFloati@public-gprs180242.centertel.pl QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1677463616 593867 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.215.123.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677464346 801282 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677464361 805635 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord > 1677464539 898294 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Yes14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107062&oldid=106460 5* 03Yes 5* (+177) 10 > 1677464580 506890 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Danicb14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107063&oldid=106706 5* 03Squidmanescape 5* (+1239) 10/* Underlying Pattern */ > 1677465428 1313 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Danicb14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107064&oldid=107063 5* 03Squidmanescape 5* (+326) 10 < 1677466856 913303 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.171 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime > 1677467538 958527 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107065&oldid=107023 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. < 1677469495 768378 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.171 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds > 1677470020 523829 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107066&oldid=107065 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+229) 10 > 1677470041 378813 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107067&oldid=107066 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+4) 10 < 1677471008 486638 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677471801 943039 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1677472300 212318 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677472346 787923 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.171 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677472416 6392 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1677476405 649544 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1677476590 786199 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1677479324 100121 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677479553 917091 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1677479975 160441 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1677480834 626446 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1677480863 631399 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1677481599 474875 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1677483369 843966 :tromp!~textual@92.110.219.57 JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1677484071 141941 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.171 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677484164 823010 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.171 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677484165 191891 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.171 NICK :razetime < 1677485092 139970 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.171 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1677485661 853151 :tromp!~textual@92.110.219.57 QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1677485925 60829 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677486346 68009 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.171 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677486482 13414 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@2001:268:c204:ba8d:a2e7:bff:fe3d:32e JOIN #esolangs * :xelxebar < 1677486782 930374 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@2001:268:c204:ba8d:a2e7:bff:fe3d:32e QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.8 < 1677486849 779702 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@2001:268:c204:ba8d:a2e7:bff:fe3d:32e JOIN #esolangs * :xelxebar < 1677486895 614466 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@2001:268:c204:ba8d:a2e7:bff:fe3d:32e QUIT :Client Quit < 1677486941 788687 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@2001:268:c204:ba8d:a2e7:bff:fe3d:32e JOIN #esolangs * :xelxebar < 1677487024 626788 :rodgort!~rodgort@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1677487140 579874 :rodgort!~rodgort@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de JOIN #esolangs * :rodgort < 1677489901 940073 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@2001:268:c204:ba8d:a2e7:bff:fe3d:32e QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.8 < 1677490039 895430 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1677490967 521840 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677491070 538985 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1677493179 327181 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@126.156.222.36 JOIN #esolangs * :xelxebar < 1677493423 140588 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1677493772 165596 :shikhin!~shikhin@offtopia/offtopian QUIT :Quit: Quittin'. < 1677493887 14641 :shikhin!~shikhin@ahti.space JOIN #esolangs * :shikhin < 1677493965 638266 :shikhin!~shikhin@ahti.space CHGHOST ~shikhin :offtopia/offtopian < 1677494218 23711 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.5.171 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1677494331 290006 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :does the HackEso web interface https://hack.esolangs.org/edit/ https://hack.esolangs.org/get/ still have problems with non-ascii files? < 1677494339 437176 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or is it just on my side? < 1677494706 65101 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? hand injuries < 1677494708 11933 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hand injuries are surprisingly common among webcomic writers, see eg. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2314 or http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html < 1677494727 825006 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`slashlearn hand injuries//Hand injuries are surprisingly common among webcomic writers, see eg. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2314 http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html or https://www.irregularwebcomic.net/news.php?date=2020-05-27 < 1677494731 226957 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Relearned 'hand injuries': Hand injuries are surprisingly common among webcomic writers, see eg. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2314 http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html or https://www.irregularwebcomic.net/news.php?date=2020-05-27 < 1677494732 772662 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? hand injuries < 1677494734 523611 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hand injuries are surprisingly common among webcomic writers, see eg. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2314 http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html or https://www.irregularwebcomic.net/news.php?date=2020-05-27 < 1677494927 265214 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It might have those problems still. I don't remember doing anything to fix them. I feel like I looked into it, but ut uses a web framework kind of a thing (Flask) that was maybe a little too magical. < 1677494974 484313 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok < 1677495193 778763 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1677495194 145607 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :where's that webpage with the monthly open-ended programming puzzles that you sometimes work on? I think it's associated with a big tech company < 1677495200 241680 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can't find it in wisdom < 1677495244 721678 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :IBM's Ponder This, I think? https://research.ibm.com/haifa/ponderthis/index.shtml < 1677495248 49324 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that, yes < 1677495276 494366 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it's not in wisdom < 1677495359 26292 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`slashlearn ponderthis Ponder This are monthly open-ended programming puzzle challenges that some regulars enjoy: https://research.ibm.com/haifa/ponderthis/index.shtml < 1677495362 960366 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Learned 'ponderthis ponder this are monthly open-ended programming puzzle challenges that some regulars enjoy: https:': research.ibm.com/haifa/ponderthis/index.shtml < 1677495369 900650 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? member < 1677495370 279400 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no < 1677495371 574872 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm sorry, #esoteric has regulars, not members. Who told you about members? There are definitely no members here, and you wouldn't be allowed to know about them, anyway. < 1677495376 96666 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`slashlearn ponderthis//Ponder This are monthly open-ended programming puzzle challenges that some regulars enjoy: https://research.ibm.com/haifa/ponderthis/index.shtml < 1677495379 309100 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Learned 'ponderthis': Ponder This are monthly open-ended programming puzzle challenges that some regulars enjoy: https://research.ibm.com/haifa/ponderthis/index.shtml < 1677495441 103762 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` (set -e; cd /hackenv/wisdom; rm -v "ponderthis ponder"*) < 1677495443 810380 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :removed 'ponderthis ponder this are monthly open-ended programming puzzle challenges that some regulars enjoy: https:' < 1677495449 192651 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? ponderthis < 1677495450 868308 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ponder This are monthly open-ended programming puzzle challenges that some regulars enjoy: https://research.ibm.com/haifa/ponderthis/index.shtml < 1677495494 70635 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.174 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677495494 519568 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was mostly asking because there's a certain open-ended programming puzzle that I'm considering to solve, but also it kind of lends itself to GPU programming, < 1677495505 474931 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I wonder if you ever do GPU stuff for these puzzles < 1677495581 823038 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think the version I want is small enough that I can solve it (as in get an approximate solution that I'm satisfied with, not necessarily get the best solution) without GPU, but if that one is solvable then you can always try the one bigger version that is much slower and that I wouldn't be able to solve with CPU < 1677495708 688564 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm talking about a puzzle that isn't on ponderthis, that's just what reminded me that esolangs solves these kinds of puzzles < 1677495980 353089 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` set -e; cd /hackenv/wisdom; grep -aPRil '\btoe' . # wisdom has a toe obsession < 1677495981 959797 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​./toe \ ./the \ ./title \ ./apt \ ./wth \ ./welp \ ./twnh \ ./tmi \ ./hth \ ./portmanteau < 1677496728 126074 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's not even just one user, these are defined by like four different users < 1677499798 316716 :sam!~sam@lullcec.org QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1677500546 7894 :xelxebar_!~xelxebar@KD111239181227.au-net.ne.jp JOIN #esolangs * :xelxebar < 1677500713 335981 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@126.156.222.36 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1677500869 865946 :xelxebar_!~xelxebar@KD111239181227.au-net.ne.jp NICK :xelxebar < 1677500963 823373 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1677504532 124782 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Leol2214]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107068&oldid=106979 5* 03Leol22 5* (+68) 10changed some stuff and cyberbullied myself < 1677507124 812036 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.174 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677507217 17848 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.174 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1677507217 353034 :razetime1!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.174 NICK :razetime > 1677508881 782503 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenshi C14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107069&oldid=107060 5* 03Richard565 5* (+399) 10 > 1677509270 831539 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenshi C14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107070&oldid=107069 5* 03Richard565 5* (+375) 10Added alternate hello world < 1677509579 425420 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1677509593 127507 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas > 1677510659 32186 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Trilangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107071&oldid=107030 5* 03Bbrk24 5* (+99) 10/* Sample programs */ Add GCD calculator < 1677511650 91243 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1677511812 628720 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Client Quit > 1677512802 453449 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WTFCode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107072&oldid=107007 5* 03Asicosilomu 5* (+435) 10version cinq > 1677512910 784365 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WTFCode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107073&oldid=107072 5* 03Asicosilomu 5* (+4) 10/* MODE */ > 1677512918 911230 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WTFCode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107074&oldid=107073 5* 03Asicosilomu 5* (+4) 10/* MODE */ < 1677513046 706909 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1677513798 96467 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.254.34.174 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677516751 825416 :genpaku!~gen@107.191.100.185 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677517004 97518 :genpaku!~gen@107.191.100.185 JOIN #esolangs genpaku :paku < 1677517214 469052 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1677519702 313669 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1677532480 14302 :lagash_!~lagash@lagash.shelltalk.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1677533224 910077 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677533238 752833 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu JOIN #esolangs * :b_jonas < 1677533511 557395 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1677533731 771018 :lagash_!lagash@lagash.shelltalk.net JOIN #esolangs lagash :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677533789 755918 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1677537631 819251 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677539632 710853 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1677540487 899490 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ars14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107075&oldid=106562 5* 03Nurdle 5* (-5) 10/* Timestamps */ > 1677540506 369393 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ars14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107076&oldid=107075 5* 03Nurdle 5* (-4) 10/* Truth Machine */ > 1677544340 649507 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenshi C14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107077&oldid=107070 5* 03Richard565 5* (+5921) 10 > 1677549469 846285 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tenshi C14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107078&oldid=107077 5* 03Richard565 5* (+325) 10Extened the history section. > 1677549639 891825 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107079&oldid=107048 5* 03Plasma 5* (+228) 10Added myself > 1677549649 148348 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Over Objective Programming Language14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107080 5* 03Plasma 5* (+1452) 10Added basic language info > 1677549761 607114 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Plasma 5* 10moved [[02Over Objective Programming Language10]] to [[Over-Objective Programming Language (Opal)]]: Changed name > 1677549785 480678 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Plasma 5* 10moved [[02Over Objective Programming Language10]] to [[The Over-Objective Programming Language (Opal)]]: Changed name (again; forgot "the" this time somehow!) < 1677550714 99225 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677550977 936303 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1677553013 69465 :razetime!~Thunderbi@43.254.111.18 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677558250 677091 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677558437 806212 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1677561009 585981 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1677561194 851956 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1677561796 60099 :razetime!~Thunderbi@43.254.111.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1677561925 778343 :razetime!~Thunderbi@43.254.111.18 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677563814 761676 :razetime!~Thunderbi@43.254.111.18 QUIT :Ping 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:Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :
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< 1677573885 736981 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :g'day < 1677574272 899009 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^8ball is it a good day? < 1677574272 988094 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :No. < 1677574398 712711 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wtf I thought Stardew Valley was a feel good peaceful game... there's combat? < 1677574406 600282 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And monsters? > 1677578507 830993 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Rdococ14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107085&oldid=82282 5* 03Rdococ 5* (-76) 10 < 1677579030 692459 :xelxebar_!~xelxebar@KD111239153139.au-net.ne.jp NICK :xelxebar < 1677579395 28495 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1677582004 876728 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^8ball is it friday yet? < 1677582004 966592 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes. < 1677582031 237292 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^8ball are you sure? < 1677582031 334405 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes. < 1677582035 895118 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^8ball are you *really* sure? < 1677582036 12043 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :No. < 1677582045 760028 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Right. < 1677582068 133432 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it would've worked without the empahsis too < 1677582094 813375 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(but no, I didn't count... and I also didn't remember which parity is which) < 1677582125 648774 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^8ball ? < 1677582125 712084 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes. < 1677582163 126533 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1677582193 130677 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^8ball is today tuesday? < 1677582193 233795 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes. < 1677582205 410990 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(this time, I did count) < 1677582241 419955 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :be careful, I think some of the 8-ball services in these bots (HackEso, perlbot, lambdabot) is rigged, with a nonstandard set of answers that differs significantly from the original < 1677582254 873590 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :really < 1677582444 302632 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Next you'll be telling us that there are different versions of the magic 8-ball with different answers. < 1677582562 752167 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: there are probably ones with slightly different answers, but that wasn't my problem. at one point one of them had a very different distribution of answers, with I think more than 20 different answers. I think that's fixed by now but I'm not sure. < 1677582922 891111 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :You removed the two definitely nonstandard ones from https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/file/tip/share/8ballreplies -- the rest I feel like came from a random web search result originally. < 1677582988 434651 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :That list has 10 "positive" replies, 5 "neutral" ones and 5 "negative" ones. < 1677583047 142574 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, that was probably one of the nonstandard ones then < 1677583083 510524 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There was some sort of a joke about "Outlook not so good" and the email client Outlook, but I don't remember how it went. < 1677584206 329817 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it looks as if the 20 responses might not be standardized in an RFC or ISO/ANSI/ECMA standard. this is shocking. < 1677584297 615329 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :last time I found out that the ISO C standard doesn't completely define the Gregorian calendar. < 1677584314 603577 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't understand how people live in such uncertainty about how their basic tools work < 1677586433 906064 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :@8ball < 1677586434 89588 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs :Unknown command, try @list < 1677586549 297766 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot call 8ball Is today Tuesday? < 1677586549 613689 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: Cannot predict now < 1677586562 128852 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`8ball Is today Tuesday? < 1677586563 645866 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It is decidedly so. < 1677587135 534076 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1677594019 821784 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@KD111239153139.au-net.ne.jp QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1677595994 147197 :dyurko[m]!~dyurkohou@2001:470:69fc:105::3:16cd QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1677596021 941461 :Franciman!~Franciman@mx1.fracta.dev JOIN #esolangs Franciman :Franciman < 1677596968 806488 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677597294 641703 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a JOIN #esolangs fungot :fungot-0.1 < 1677599154 130264 :dyurko[m]!~dyurkohou@2001:470:69fc:105::3:16cd JOIN #esolangs * :@dyurko:houtworm.im < 1677599729 143484 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1677599788 133901 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1677600368 810260 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@KD111239153139.au-net.ne.jp JOIN #esolangs * :xelxebar < 1677601864 131135 :laerling!~laerling@user/laerling JOIN #esolangs laerling :lærling < 1677602185 470281 :Franciman!~Franciman@mx1.fracta.dev QUIT :*.net *.split < 1677602185 814957 :^[!~user@user//x-8473491 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1677602185 851999 :hkgit03!~laerling@user/laerling QUIT :*.net *.split < 1677602185 970600 :JAA!~JAA@user/jaa QUIT :*.net *.split < 1677602186 199522 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1677602254 480962 :Franciman!~Franciman@mx1.fracta.dev JOIN #esolangs Franciman :Franciman < 1677602254 481141 :^[!~user@user//x-8473491 JOIN #esolangs ^[ :user < 1677602254 481151 :JAA!~JAA@user/jaa JOIN #esolangs JAA :JustAnotherArchivist < 1677602254 484509 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de JOIN #esolangs sknebel :sknebel < 1677602276 105105 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@KD111239153139.au-net.ne.jp QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.8 < 1677603634 137191 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1677603743 868939 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Client Quit > 1677605089 824875 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WTFCode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107086&oldid=107074 5* 03Asicosilomu 5* (+0) 10/* ARRAY LENGTH */ < 1677607193 402968 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :`8ball is 8ball the OG AI helper? < 1677607195 83005 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :My reply is no. < 1677607198 375380 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :pity < 1677610319 756284 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1677610353 590318 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@wilsonb.com JOIN #esolangs xelxebar :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677611001 940282 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: It could be a lie. < 1677611075 370455 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The 8-ball predates Eliza by just 20 years (taking the year it was invented for a convenient round number) < 1677612927 894969 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`8-ball Were you invented just 20 years before Eliza? < 1677612929 367424 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes. < 1677612981 146312 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean, according to Wikipedia... the 8 ball was invented in 1946 and ELIZA was created in 1966. > 1677618655 237041 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107087&oldid=107067 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677618715 230517 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107088&oldid=107087 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677618830 971329 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107089&oldid=107088 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677618855 296159 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Vandlen't14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107090 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+106) 10Created page with "== Yes == test --~~~~" > 1677618904 108756 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107091&oldid=107090 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+125) 10 > 1677619004 522095 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107092&oldid=107089 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677619277 270421 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107093&oldid=107092 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677619299 831398 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107094&oldid=107091 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+125) 10 > 1677619378 419857 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107095&oldid=107093 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677619394 714445 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107096&oldid=107094 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+120) 10 > 1677619422 846577 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107097&oldid=107096 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+79) 10 > 1677619452 28439 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107098&oldid=106623 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+55) 10 > 1677619772 882187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107099&oldid=107095 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677619818 845815 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107100&oldid=107098 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+0) 10 > 1677620401 78784 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107101&oldid=107099 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677620509 94635 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107102&oldid=107101 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677620519 796697 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107103&oldid=107100 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+0) 10 > 1677620542 325565 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107104&oldid=107103 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+43) 10 > 1677620556 525212 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PRINT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107105&oldid=107104 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (-43) 10Undo revision 107104 by [[Special:Contributions/SpaceByte|SpaceByte]] ([[User talk:SpaceByte|talk]]) < 1677628700 755893 :craigo_!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1677628704 635761 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving