< 1677628911 766024 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds > 1677635606 246077 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107106&oldid=107102 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677635665 522992 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:SpaceByte/VandalismTestPage14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107107 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+2157) 10Created page with "This is a page for testing my vandalism bot. (this is spammed to meet character requirements to test the bot)(this is spammed to meet character requirements to test the bot)(this is spammed to meet character requirements to test the bot)(this > 1677635675 87810 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:SpaceByte/VandalismTestPage14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107108&oldid=107107 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (-2157) 10Blanked the page > 1677635722 389587 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:SpaceByte/VandalismTestPage14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107109&oldid=107108 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+2157) 10 < 1677635813 457625 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is the art and effects of the newer Magic: the Gathering cards too aggressive? It seems to me. (Homelands seems about right, though) > 1677635829 491947 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107110&oldid=107106 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677635862 352581 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107111&oldid=107110 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677635958 60680 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:SpaceByte/VandalismTestPage14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107112&oldid=107109 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (-2157) 10Blanked the page > 1677636111 528970 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Vandalang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107113 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+773) 10Created page with "== Vandalang == '''Vandalang''' is the best language to ever be created. No one knows how it worked, who made it, or when it was destroyed, however the only interpreter was on a floppy disk that was thrown in a bonfire. == Satire == this is quite obviously satire. i > 1677636146 636020 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107114&oldid=107111 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677636154 758814 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Vandalang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107115&oldid=107113 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (-773) 10test blank > 1677636238 269552 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107116&oldid=107114 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677636250 542794 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Vandalang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107117&oldid=107115 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+773) 10 > 1677636263 115185 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Vandalang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107118&oldid=107117 5* 03SpaceByte 5* 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312489 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net JOIN #esolangs m5zs7k :m5zs7k < 1677644320 196157 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.64 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1677644559 828800 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1677644996 491004 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net JOIN #esolangs m5zs7k :m5zs7k < 1677645351 248386 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1677645508 270644 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net JOIN #esolangs m5zs7k :m5zs7k > 1677646311 915378 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107175&oldid=107171 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677646343 442825 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Vandalang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107176&oldid=107174 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+7) 10 > 1677646563 53932 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107177&oldid=107175 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677646568 896757 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Vandalang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107178&oldid=107176 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (-7) 10 > 1677646575 612597 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Vandalang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107179&oldid=107178 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+7) 10 > 1677646725 435401 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Vandalang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107180&oldid=107179 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (-7) 10 > 1677646738 751269 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107181&oldid=107177 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677646746 318285 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Vandalang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107182&oldid=107180 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+7) 10 > 1677646821 374705 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Vandlen't14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107183&oldid=107181 5* 03Vandlen't 5* (+82) 10Changed page source. > 1677646836 342413 PRIVMSG #esolangs 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02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107190&oldid=107188 5* 03SpaceByte 5* (+1) 10 < 1677647420 815943 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.64 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677652266 778565 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.64 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677652685 166748 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677655834 35802 :lagash_!lagash@lagash.shelltalk.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1677655900 498000 :lagash_!lagash@lagash.shelltalk.net JOIN #esolangs lagash :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677657102 229607 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1677657122 779535 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1677657810 424003 :Franciman!~Franciman@mx1.fracta.dev PART #esolangs :WeeChat 3.8 < 1677658370 668283 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1677658386 24259 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03XKCD Wrong Times Table 5* 10New user account > 1677659584 625965 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Jellang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107191 5* 03Tesolang 5* (+527) 10i know this is a stub > 1677659625 123723 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Jellang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107192&oldid=107191 5* 03Tesolang 5* (-2) 10jellang link was in square brackets so i fixed it > 1677659693 135644 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Jellang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107193&oldid=107192 5* 03Tesolang 5* (+4) 10the commands were bunched up so fixed > 1677659827 859820 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Jellang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107194&oldid=107193 5* 03Tesolang 5* (+42) 10why do i have to edit this page so much < 1677660035 963614 :lagash_!lagash@lagash.shelltalk.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1677661030 307486 :lagash!lagash@2605:6400:20:b4:9c76:1538:3398:ce71 JOIN #esolangs lagash :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677661905 807903 :craigo_!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds > 1677662859 807534 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tesolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107195&oldid=107002 5* 03Tesolang 5* (+13) 10added jellang < 1677664845 128600 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1677665028 137098 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.64 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677665035 129350 :wib_jonas53!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1677665100 963539 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by wib_jonas53)) < 1677665107 191587 :wib_jonas53!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu NICK :wib_jonas < 1677665115 650550 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: in the wiki configuration, please update the oeis: interwiki prefix to point to the new website https://oeis.org/ . the old URL has sadly bitrotten and we had to replace it everywhere. < 1677665405 550464 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait, where did it live before.. < 1677665470 131472 :wib_jonas55!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1677665518 128794 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1677665535 28893 :wib_jonas55!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu NICK :wib_jonas < 1677665833 131569 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1677667652 114667 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.64 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677668398 126645 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1677668410 196885 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :something's wrong with the net connection, presumably on this side, keeps kicking me out of IRC… wait, maybe that's a feature, trying to make me do more useful work? < 1677668934 109940 :V!~v@ircpuzzles/2022/april/winner/V JOIN #esolangs V :Wie? < 1677669523 324208 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1677670094 596857 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: https://esolangs.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=interwikimap has it at http://www.research.att.com/cgi-bin/access.cgi/as/njas/sequences/eisA.cgi?Anum=$1 which is probably quite ancient. < 1677670155 36057 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably; it seems oeis.org was rgeistered 2003, and at least as far as I've been aware of oeis it's been at that location I think < 1677670207 449108 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Apparently it's configured through the database, not through LocalSettings. And there's a default list -- https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/HEAD/maintenance/interwiki.list -- which has OEIS in the correct URL, but it might be that list is just the defaults for a new installation, not overriding existing values. < 1677670208 142177 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :> In 2006, the user interface was overhauled and more advanced search capabilities were added. In 2010 an OEIS wiki at OEIS.org was created to simplify the collaboration of the OEIS editors and contributors.[8] < 1677670209 891579 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : :1:8: error: parse error on input ‘,’ < 1677670224 284651 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :at least as old as 2010 and probably at least 2006, I guess < 1677670254 962764 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1677670280 865788 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Our wiki seems to have started in 6 April 2005‎ if Main Page edit history is anything to go by. < 1677670631 828623 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :But, in the MediaWiki defaults, the OEIS URL was updated only as late as 2014: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/348a329d5be3a2827cbc3f270a418b02e04e02f4 < 1677670641 904008 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :So that's where we'd've gotten the old one from. < 1677670681 468454 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll try to figure it out in the evening, there's some maintenance scripts around it but nothing that clearly states it'd update the table based on the defaults. < 1677670708 324646 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, but it seems the old URLs were still valid in 2010 < 1677670939 217026 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :from what I understand, some American universities decided that they don't want users to host controversial stuff on their servers or even on any webpage under their domain name, just in case some news site starts to claim "New Southshire University claims " when it's really just the private webpage of a student under a URL < 1677670939 715611 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :like http://studentlab.u-newsouthshire.edu/~drunkjoe/party.html , so to simplify matters they just broke all those links, because it's easier than to decide which ones might contain controversial content in the future < 1677670975 405739 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and this is why both the old OEIS links and the old links to Erich Friedman's pages and more are now dead and we have to replace them < 1677670995 637565 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it sucks but when they're quality resources like these two we do spend some effort on it < 1677671050 92187 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :for the record https://erich-friedman.github.io/ is definitely Erich's Friedman's, not just someone else with a copy of his old homepage that used to be on http://www2.stetson.edu/~efriedma/ < 1677671478 548424 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` hg log --removed -r 12473: -T "u\n" -l 1 /hackenv/wisdom/password | grep -q || slashlearn 'password//The password of the month is up against his power, they were just like bugs.' < 1677671483 898644 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERNS [FILE]... \ Try 'grep --help' for more information. \ Relearned 'password': The password of the month is up against his power, they were just like bugs. < 1677671490 544165 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oops < 1677671497 375204 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that is missing a pattern < 1677671506 412697 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` hg log --removed -r 12473: -T "u\n" -l 1 /hackenv/wisdom/password | grep -q . || slashlearn 'password//The password of the month is up against his power, they were just like bugs.' < 1677671508 242527 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No output. < 1677671515 818037 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is why we should have a command for this < 1677671537 28115 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I even have what I think is a correct one in the logs, just haven't created a script in bin < 1677671541 128634 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? password < 1677671542 860374 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The password of the month is up against his power, they were just like bugs. < 1677671697 209009 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2022-09.html#lSI is the command < 1677672352 761549 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com JOIN #esolangs * :myname > 1677674625 276268 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Jellang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107196&oldid=107194 5* 03Tesolang 5* (+0) 10edited a bit < 1677675376 329992 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :*.net *.split < 1677675376 330305 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1677675376 378608 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock QUIT :*.net *.split < 1677675376 378650 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :*.net *.split < 1677675376 608051 :stmuk_!~steve@15.43.187.81.in-addr.arpa QUIT :*.net *.split < 1677675376 608078 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :*.net *.split < 1677675376 608085 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf QUIT :*.net *.split < 1677675376 608092 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-230-207.bredband.tele2.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1677675397 711682 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron < 1677675402 135511 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN #esolangs APic :A. Pic. - my name since YOLD 3149 < 1677675650 766404 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677675650 766621 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca JOIN #esolangs zzo38 :zzo38 < 1677675650 766634 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock JOIN #esolangs sprock :maeve (she/her) < 1677675650 766641 :stmuk_!~steve@15.43.187.81.in-addr.arpa JOIN #esolangs * :steve < 1677675650 766659 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf JOIN #esolangs shachaf :Shachaf Ben-Kiki < 1677675650 766666 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-230-207.bredband.tele2.se JOIN #esolangs olsner :Got ZNC? < 1677675650 766672 :chibi!~chibi@199.19.75.206 JOIN #esolangs * :Dick Kick'em < 1677675650 810232 :GregorR!~GregorR@71.19.155.102 JOIN #esolangs GregorR :Gregor Richards < 1677675892 372217 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Excess Flood < 1677676086 563680 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in > 1677679023 37238 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03MixoMAx 5* 10New user account > 1677679195 38209 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107197&oldid=107079 5* 03MixoMAx 5* (+224) 10 > 1677679529 371905 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07AsPL14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107198 5* 03MixoMAx 5* (+2196) 10initla commit of the Ascii Programming Language < 1677684497 501235 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1677685138 755610 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1677686024 992110 :Everything!~Everythin@46.185.124.65 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1677687036 220341 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1677687815 134473 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.64 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime < 1677688316 10727 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1677690237 427900 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07XY problem14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107199 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+1466) 10XY problem > 1677690350 211751 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07XY problem14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107200&oldid=107199 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+6) 10 < 1677690453 441345 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1677690460 176275 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1677690551 252351 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07XY problem14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107201&oldid=107200 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (-21) 10 < 1677690575 645917 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1677690605 853601 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in > 1677690616 362310 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07XY problem14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107202&oldid=107201 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (-17) 10 > 1677690640 587560 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07XY problem14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107203&oldid=107202 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+2) 10 < 1677691032 416715 :razetime!~Thunderbi@117.193.3.64 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677691503 551308 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1677692785 683016 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1677695084 922485 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1677695503 962292 :craigo_!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1677696251 983051 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.215.123.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl JOIN #esolangs FreeFull :FreeFull < 1677697345 926335 :rodgort!~rodgort@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1677697806 569898 :rodgort!~rodgort@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de JOIN #esolangs * :rodgort < 1677698188 624634 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1677698414 921484 :craigo_!~craigo@180-150-37-12.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1677702080 833682 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1677703456 218101 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1677704301 940282 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1677704413 900912 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :suppose I have two regular expressions (in the mathematical sense – concatenation + Kleene star + alternation + empty string + letters from the alphabet), which are defined using a language that has macros < 1677704455 502203 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i.e. I can do something like «$a = "(ab*|cd)", $b = "${a}${a}${a}"» < 1677704476 506603 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the macros obviously don't increase the computational power, but they can potentially make the source a lot shorter < 1677704521 364942 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm looking for an efficient way to find a string that matches both expressions simultaneously < 1677704532 711488 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(if possible) < 1677704558 933690 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this problem is clearly decidable by converting both to NFAs or DFAs, but that could incur an exponential blowup… < 1677704826 987472 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: it probably doesn't matter, but are those macros recursive, eg. can you write '$x = |a$x' instead of '$x = a*' ? < 1677704854 916767 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :er < 1677704883 548381 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :make that the recursive macro only occuring on the right so they remain regular instead of CF < 1677704937 881063 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: in the original, yes but I got rid of the recursion already by replacing it with Kleene star < 1677704978 162760 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so only nonrecursive uses are left < 1677705021 619946 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait a monent, I don't think you can even hope to get rid of an exponential buildup because something like $b = aa; $c = $b$b; $d = $c$c; ... $z = $y$y describes a language with just one string that's exponentially long < 1677705054 402341 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: this is the hard part, I think – presumably we can use macros to describe the output string too < 1677705069 63350 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so the issue is to handle the exponentially long strings without an exponentially long increase in runtime < 1677705174 272912 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm < 1677705205 999752 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :your example can be handled just by run-length encoding but I suspect that might not be enough for the general case < 1677705431 640329 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait a moment < 1677705445 277010 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah no < 1677705554 658017 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1677705567 790235 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1677705678 822189 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think, maybe it might be possible to calculate differences between two macros? < 1677705725 466302 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like, "here's the set of strings $x for which there's a string that's both a $b$x and a $c, and the set of strings $y for which there's a string that's both a $b and a $c$y" > 1677705971 866639 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07AsPL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107204&oldid=107198 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+148) 10External resources, categories < 1677706313 811391 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so in the input you can use the macros to abbreviate repeating by a fixed count to as short as the binary representation of that count. that means to take the intersection you kind of have to be able to solve a chinese reminder problem with two moduluses < 1677706353 22818 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :not hard, we know how to use the extended euclidean algorithm for that, but it kind of constrains what kind of solution you can expect < 1677706413 590170 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes – I actually noticed the Chinese remainder problem problem before I noticed the exponential blowup, and that's about as far as I got before turning to #esoteric for help < 1677706533 659320 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the naive solution ends up iterating over all possible tuples of remainders, which feels like it should be optimisable < 1677706552 474998 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but maybe it can't be – this problem can't be TC but it might be something-else-complete < 1677706573 748439 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :…I guess NP-completeness is the most likely form of completeness? < 1677706575 909218 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1677706598 344120 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooh, I think you can implement subset sum in this, can't you? < 1677706637 66984 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :by using the macros to RLE numbers, so that the input represents the lengths of the strings in binary (or some similar base), not unary < 1677706638 363090 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, you have a point! < 1677706707 995554 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is a disappointing result in a way, but now that I know there are cases that can't be done efficiently, it saves me from worrying about the general solution and I can just look for special cases that are common and easy to solve < 1677706744 204000 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :do we know it's even NP by the way? < 1677706843 701480 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, good point – I kind-of assumed that by going nondeterministic you could just guess the correct branches for the regex every time < 1677706852 545037 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that doesn't necessarily make it run in polynomial time < 1677706948 167658 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's clearly doable in exponential time and linear space < 1677707065 153567 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you say polynomial space then I can buy that < 1677707088 712835 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not convinced of linear space < 1677707131 400964 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, I meant nondeterministic linear space < 1677707175 292856 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :when you can do it simply by keeping a pointer into every macro recording whether and where that macro is being evaluated for the first regex, and again for the second < 1677707187 895223 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :…although you can do it in deterministic linear space too < 1677707221 457116 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :use a counter of the possible nondeterministic executions < 1677707226 72790 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to decide which way to go < 1677707257 449262 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are exponentially many possible executions, so the counter will take O(log(exp(input))) bytes to represent = linear in the size of the input > 1677707335 145166 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Periotun 5* 10New user account > 1677707376 898800 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107205&oldid=107197 5* 03Periotun 5* (+123) 10 > 1677707504 602435 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:XKCD Wrong Times Table14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107206 5* 03Periotun 5* (+256) 10Created page with "It seems that you're trying to introduce yourself. You're supposed to do it on [[Esolang:Introduce_yourself|this page]]. The page also contains other people's introductions. ~~~~" < 1677707631 644167 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, nondeterministic linear space sounds possible < 1677707649 627500 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think deterministic linear space is < 1677708202 274196 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, I think you may be right there < 1677708264 764932 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my reasoning was wrong because for the counter to work, it has to remember which choices were made in each use of each macro, which might be exponential itself < 1677708304 920809 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also if you wanted to intersect not two but any number of macroed things (with just alternation, no kleenee star) then you could directly encode SAT of conjunctive normal form boolean formulas into it < 1677708389 42362 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's actually interesting that the Kleene star doesn't seem to be fundamental to this problem being diffiult < 1677708390 810823 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* difficult < 1677708414 164304 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the context is that I've been looking into context-free grammars, and trying to work out which of them can be efficiently parsed < 1677708433 282565 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: we don't know that! all you showed without the Kleenee star is that it's at least NP-hard. but it may require double-exponential time instead of just simple exponential or something and you may need the star for that < 1677708438 66287 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and which of them can be efficiently determined to be unambiguous < 1677708466 865106 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: right, but NP-hard counts as "difficult" even if there are more difficult variants of the problem available < 1677708506 808196 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and if you try to do it deterministically then the lack of star helps because you can iterate on all the (finite number of) execution traces of a regex in the more straightforward backtrack way < 1677708574 152423 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes < 1677708633 596290 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also don't know how hard this is without the macros, or without macros or stars, and then you can try to allow macros and/or stars in just one of the two intersected thingies < 1677708646 92683 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I'm too tired to really think about these now < 1677708900 463100 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :finding a string that matches one grammar but not the other is already NP-hard if you allow macros but no stars, because you can encode a disjunctive normal form boolean formula in the second language, but this doesn't easily translate to your original intersection problem < 1677708987 151418 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :regexes can be negated, but it often causes an explosion in size – I wonder if the macros would prevent that? < 1677709008 608438 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :because you can have a negated version of each macro and define the negated versions recursively < 1677709039 124252 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can also encode the dnf thing to the difference of two grammars with stars but without macros by the way < 1677709847 457957 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :after thinking about the "look for ambiguities in a context-free grammar" problem for a while I'm starting to consider it to be an esolang, it's a) well-known to be TC and b) supports a surprising range of programming techniques < 1677710192 599308 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.215.123.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl QUIT : < 1677710358 655819 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1677710833 405579 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1677711896 22860 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 QUIT :Quit: sorry about my connection < 1677711914 752510 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1677712386 147928 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've updated the OEIS interwiki prefix. (By just resetting the list to the current default, after eyeballing the diff.) < 1677712415 324218 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I don't know of a page with an [[oeis:...]] link though.) < 1677712514 936942 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we use interwikis to Wikipedia occasionally, but that's about it I think < 1677712534 732486 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.27.30 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I've assumed that the "wikipedia:" prefix has to be visible on those, just like links to userspace) < 1677713375 174515 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: thanks < 1677714007 204953 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal