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ACTION hello!

< 1679041367 473794 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am trying to understand proposition 2.3 of https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/locally+cartesian+closed+category but the notation is difficult :(
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< 1679048923 455684 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi
< 1679048937 916856 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :nlab is difficult to read
< 1679049013 235909 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know about dependent product in category theory
< 1679049032 249767 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :you could ask in #categorytheory it is a good channel
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< 1679049358 282605 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think earlier I more wanted to complain than get help but I might ask later
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< 1679110289 362401 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :What OSes allow shared libraries to rename functions while being binary compatible? Like, Amiga renamed OpenLibrary to OldOpenLibrary and made a new OpenLibrary, to fix a bug that couldn't be backwardly-compatibly fixed (it takes a version parameter, but the old one ignored it)
< 1679110317 376020 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Wait, no, the signature changed. The old one didn't take a version number at all
< 1679110361 766748 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :...hm, actually I'm not sure. The OldOpenLibrary docs don't list a second parameter, but maybe it took and ignored it, and that's effectively equivalent
< 1679110365 236475 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :http://amigadev.elowar.com/read/ADCD_2.1/Includes_and_Autodocs_3._guide/node0220.html
< 1679110698 367260 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Import-by-ordinal is/was the standard practice of how to use DLLs on Windows, I believe, and allows for that.
< 1679110791 598029 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :And of course there's symbol versioning support on GNU/Linux.
< 1679111086 919654 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, I thought Windows typically exported and imported by name
< 1679111143 400384 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is that symbol versioning an ELF thing? I don't know much about it
< 1679111155 166706 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I know it supports both. And I was under the impression that ordinals were commonly used. But that's just a rumour.
< 1679111183 108649 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Saves space and all that.
< 1679111309 135943 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Symbol versioning is... well, I think it's more or less a GNU thing.
< 1679111315 457909 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Though https://sourceware.org/binutils/docs/ld/VERSION.html suggests they got the idea from Sun.
< 1679111467 14936 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Apparently at least some BSDs have picked it up too, judging from https://wiki.freebsd.org/SymbolVersioning
< 1679112817 836379 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm still unsure why an OS would need both relocation and virtual memory. If it has virtual memory, the executable can be placed whereever it expects to be placed. If it has relocation, nothing too wrong with a flat address space (I guess that's the Amiga model. Oh, or the program can use PIC apparently)
< 1679112843 482837 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'd love to read comparisons about how executables and shared libraries work between systems
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< 1679121595 811397 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: the unix solution for that is to keep the names of the linked symbols but have the renaming done in the headers
< 1679121743 431786 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but usually just don't rename, pick a new name (or new mangled name for languages that mangle)
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< 1679166615 671207 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess memory protection is more to prevent accidents? Like Windows will stop pointers to other programs from being meaningful, but any program can just ask politely for memory access to other programs and be granted it. Although I guess that's changing in mobile and with Windows 10/11 "apps"
< 1679166731 415793 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Accidents and attacks. No clue what the Windows angle is here.
< 1679166736 744626 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know about Windows, but I'd be surprised if that would be allowed cross security contexts no matter how politely you ask.
< 1679166781 693120 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :For the same user (for some definition of "user"), probably, since that's how I think cheat programs tend to work? 
< 1679166791 839802 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Beyond the fact that it's an OS, so it's supposed to enforce security boundaries, and memory protection is a large part of that story.)
< 1679166886 413988 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, thinking of the same user/cheat program story
< 1679166912 257114 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :On Linux, I believe you have to go through the 'ptrace' mechanism to inspect other processes' memory, and a lot of distributions "recently" (some years back) started turning on ptrace restrictions by default, so that you can only trace your own descendants, or processes that specifically cooperate with you.
< 1679166948 571803 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/security/Yama.txt <- that thing.
< 1679166991 240060 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"ask politely" -- of course any program can expose a protocol for external access to internals.
< 1679167002 408159 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Meant ask the OS politely
> 1679167023 593394 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cammy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107521&oldid=107413 5* 03Corbin 5* (+1102) 10/* Syntax */ Document the theory of jets.
< 1679167055 218087 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think a lot of companies would prefer if most users used an OS where Cheat Engine couldn't work, and I think most users wouldn't care about being hamstrung that way.
< 1679167060 230032 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or you can load a program into your own address space and patch it and manipulate it that way. Or fully emulate it.
< 1679167104 980119 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the dream of "trusted computing"
< 1679167120 81913 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? trusted
< 1679167122 959718 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :trusted? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1679167159 932669 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? trust
< 1679167162 160252 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :trust? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1679167171 777724 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's no such thing as trust, apparently.
< 1679167173 199472 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(A trusted component is a component that can break security.)
< 1679167202 38956 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I may soon have a spare, not particularly powerful computer (my current laptop that I only use for Parsec streaming my desktop is dying. Bought a new laptop, and am going to try to have this one repaired under warranty)
< 1679167208 295934 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The thing about the word "trust" is that it doesn't specify who trusts whom or what.
< 1679167210 397241 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Half wondering if I should put Icaros Desktop on it
< 1679167234 678646 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm currently finding Amiga fascinating, but will probably lose interest at some point
< 1679167244 625624 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :In the "trusted computing" context it's largely about third parties trusting your hardware, bypassing you as the user.
< 1679168535 626886 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I like how Amiga uses logical devices, like C: being the equivalent of PATH, that can be assigned to different physical locations (or I think multiple)
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< 1679201871 591244 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Using Icaros Desktop in VMware wasn't a ... pleasant experience
< 1679201877 667704 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Don't know if real hardware would be better
< 1679201882 901911 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Cursor kept flickering
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< 1679207664 114738 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :....apparently I left Hyper-V running? I thought I turned it off
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< 1679209897 97448 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Still having issues with Icaros Desktop
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< 1679228465 469405 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I put Windows 3.11 into an 86Box emulating a 486 with a Tseng Labs ET4000/W32 SVGA adapter (used to have one of those), and the screen kept doing this thing where the image would not refresh / get all corrupted, but fix itself if I moved the mouse cursor around the affected area.
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< 1679232310 704604 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: make sure the driver knows how much RAM is on your video card. I've seen video corruption when the driver thought there was more video RAM that there actually was. Those old hardware and drivers don't just autodetect all their configurations like modern hardware do.
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< 1679290184 568751 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yesterday I was playing a role playing game session. After the game, the GM mentioned that most players, if they find some gnolls would attack (either right away or when they attack). I did something a bit different; at first I just decided to go ahead so that they would not find us; I did not know if they were neutral, friendly, or enemies, but my guess was the first one.
< 1679290200 999908 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :But then they attacked, so we were ready to fight back, but then I thought, maybe they were tricked by the Black Hand, so I decided to say something to them, and that worked; it seems I was right. They were not very good at English, but it seems this time I managed to get the point across.
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< 1679296822 931203 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It sounds like you are a good roleplayer, zzo38
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< 1679300952 271669 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: the sentence with "most players" is unfinished
< 1679302010 349117 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I think that sentence seems fine, apart from a missing comma after "gnolls"
< 1679303336 193928 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, it says the players attack rather than the gnolls attack
< 1679303342 93014 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :tricky
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< 1679305158 178691 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe zzo38 could have tried talking to the gnolls in Gnorwegian
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< 1679307444 269216 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool
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< 1679339612 85889 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, I missed a comma. (And, "Gnorwegian" is not a language that my character can speak; fortunately there was one guy riding an elephant who was good at at least three different languages (including English, Quan Ma (the country we were in), and the gnoll's language), so he was able to talk to them more effectively.
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< 1679343342 148526 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? wegian
< 1679343345 295313 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A wegian is an equivalence class of #esoteric regulars. There are two main wegians, the Nor (from Finland) and the Glas (from Hexham). There's also the hypothetical Gal, which hasn't been observed yet so we're not sure where it's from.
< 1679343356 630424 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :is Gnorwegian a Tanebvention?
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< 1679382682 169727 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I'm afraid Gnorwegian is a Tanebvention. It's the language spoken in Phinland
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> 1679392484 289324 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Andriy 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:GraphAddress.png10]]": An explanation of addresses in Graph Oriented Fictional COmputer
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< 1679406477 312171 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :a periodic tiling
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< 1679419906 961583 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :river: nice catch, thank you for linking it. if you want to post an answer to https://mathoverflow.net/q/182440/5340 , ping me and I'll delete my answer
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< 1679429941 282853 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Factorio and Spelunky 2 have seeded map generation but they support only 32 bits of entropy for the seed. I find this so weird. These are modern games running on modern hardware, so why limit the seed so much?
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< 1679431152 691333 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :How much of a limitation is that? I guess it makes Minecraft-style reverse engineering of the seed less complicated.
< 1679431280 860300 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(cf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCF4k2_-C40 ...hmm I wonder whether there is an accessible first-hand account of the brute force computation effort.
< 1679431283 898007 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :)
< 1679431313 394386 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaRurhiK-Lk
< 1679431941 120608 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: yes, people did brute-force search all the Factorio seeds using some automated criteria to find good ones for the any% speedrun
< 1679431997 172203 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or maybe not all just a lot of them? I'm not sure. 
< 1679432034 847538 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :each one takes a few seconds to generate the map around the starting area so you need serious parallelism to brute force all of the, but it's not out of question
< 1679432055 76173 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but more importantly you get repeats if you generate lots of random seeds, at least in Factorio
< 1679432078 279068 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know how Spelunky works, maybe it uses a larger seed for non-seeded games, in which case you won't get repeats 
< 1679432084 364051 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Factorio only has seeded games
< 1679432135 283873 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(though of course Factorio mods may override the map generator, so one could plausibly use a larger seed, though there's a drawback, the modded map generation is always much slower than the vanilla one)
< 1679432339 712036 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway as to "why" I imagine nobody gave it much thought? And for entertaining humans, 2^32 is a lot of scenarios. Or even 2^20 if there are duplicates.
< 1679432390 700067 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: for Spelunky, one possible explanation is that it displays the seed in the interface in-game, probably to watermark videos to show that they're seeded
< 1679432427 712018 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"But with 64 bits brute force could find better seeds." doesn't make a great argument in favor either.
< 1679432441 386934 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think there are so many duplicates that there are only 2↑20 though
< 1679432469 768630 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :if larger seed size could find much better seeds that just means your map generator is not balanced enough
< 1679432469 977593 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I was hoping so, just saying that I think this is still enough.
< 1679432557 570320 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Below 2^20 things may get iffy, mostly because of the birthday paradox amplified by a large player base.
< 1679432655 50275 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :note that Factorio is effectively even faster than Spelunky, because speedrunners run the default settings category, in which you can't choose explicit seeds, but you can roll a random seed and preview the map, watching the preview counts in the speedrun time, and players just keep rerolling that until they get an acceptible seed, taking just a few seconds between rerolls
< 1679432672 940750 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Hmm, I guess factorio is too long-term of a game to suffer the Minecraft speedrunning effect (where finding the right stuff early on is so important)
< 1679432723 604357 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I don't know. I've watched Minecraft speedruns, I haven't watched anything from those other two games so I know almost nothing about them.
< 1679432773 321093 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: not true, it's short term, the early part is where randomness matters the most, at least in those speedrunning categories
< 1679432826 721616 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :for later in the game you can lose a lot on execution, but not on randomness, because in shorter categories you see everything already on the preview map, while in longer runs the randomness just doesn't matter as much proportionally
< 1679432844 981451 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So... I guess "balancing" actually means reducing the randomness then?
< 1679432858 828706 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's not all in the preview by the way: one thing that can ruin runs is that rocks drop a random amount of stone and coal when you mine them, 
< 1679432901 318505 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and in a speedrun you want to mine a few rocks (that spawn close to your starting point, which is random but you can see from the preview) and hope they give good drops, and if not then you just restart in the first few minutes
< 1679432929 240721 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but this is more important in the seeded categories; in unseeded just the generated map matters more
< 1679432980 94301 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: kind of, or at least taming the randomness so it can't give you crazy overpowered maps in seeded runs, which by the way both Spelunky 2 and Factorio seems to do well
< 1679433023 160921 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :in Spelunky 2, good shops and secret shops in 1-2 and 1-3 can help a lot, but they can only help so much that people quickly found seeds that have the best shops
< 1679433095 110316 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also important, though not really for the seeded stuff, that you balance the game so no seed can screw you over too much, which Spelunky 2 and Factorio also do really well
< 1679433120 567084 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :in Spelunky 2 when players die they almost always feel that it's their fault, not the game's fault
< 1679433127 476462 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a really well made game
< 1679433225 222163 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and if you want a particular item, even if you could get that item from a lucky shop in the first biome (dwelling), there's also some guaranteed or at least very likely way to get the same item in any random seed. there's no way to likely get *all* items together, but you also don't get them randomly from shop drops in seeded
< 1679433458 985819 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :eg. there's a guaranteed jetpack in Duat, a guaranteed spike boots in ice caves, a practically guaranteed cape in Sun Challenge (you may not be able to get one but it's likely your own fault, not randomness), a guaranteed altar with sacrificable potential corpses in Madam Tusk's Palace (it doesn't generate if you kill Madame Tusk earlier, but that basically only happens by the player's fault), a 
< 1679433464 992495 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :guaranteed large set of shops called the Black Market in Jungle, etc
< 1679433490 807667 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :a guaranteed Dice Shop in Tide Pool, and more
< 1679433537 713030 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and there are enough levels and altars are frequent enough that you'll almost certainly get a random altar besides the one in Tusk's Palace, though often not on the level where you want to get them
< 1679433615 121066 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the dungeon is also designed so you can't get everything at once: there are two sections where you can branch to one of two biomes. first is Volcana vs Jungle where in Jungle you get the Black Market with lots of normal items in shops plus glue, whereas in Volcana you get one very good item, Vlad's Cape instead; second is Sunken City vs Temple which have their own set of interesting tradeoffs
< 1679433667 509021 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and even besides the guaranteed items, the game is designed so that the items only make your work easier, you can usually still progress without items, it's just harder, 
< 1679433703 705554 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so together with the randomness this makes the game quite variable and less boring at the highest level, where the players are good enough to survive with any incomplete set of items
< 1679433814 142254 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, *because* the game randomness is well designed, I think it would be even better if it allowed longer seeds
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< 1679435880 770313 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and yes, https://tasvideos.org/3080S nethack is the example for where the random map generation is balanced wrong: you can die on turn zero or get a wand of wishing very close to your starting point
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< 1679518770 854289 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you remember how people spreaded tales about how the maya calendar would overflow in year 2012 and since the mayans were ancient and wise clearly this means that the world will end in 2012. maybe a few billion years ago our descendants will remember that we measured time in seconds in signed 64-bit time_t variables and conclude that since we were ancient and wise clearly the world will end 2**63 
< 1679518776 861556 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :seconds after the big bang (or 2**63 seconds after the unix epoch)
< 1679518796 54550 :Riviera!~Riviera@user/riviera PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: no that's not it
< 1679518804 493151 :Riviera!~Riviera@user/riviera PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: the world will end in 2012
< 1679518810 355505 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :we're between 2**58 and 2**59 seconds after the big bang so 2**63 seconds is a reasonable length for that myth
< 1679518883 971169 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: what did you do with the time line there? "ago" usually applies to the past.
< 1679518957 453203 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :er yes
< 1679518968 161093 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/a few billion years ago/a few billion years from now/
< 1679519236 705508 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and yes, this doesn't make sense because of general relativity
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< 1679520269 986596 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or they'll think that our decimal SI system is ancient and wise and so the world will end earlier, a mere zettasecod after the big bang
< 1679520491 954591 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or hopefully none of that because they'll have someone less ancient and more wise to derive their myths from
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< 1679521970 312678 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: ..but why would the time since big bang be signed..
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< 1679523590 493973 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I read somewhere about they thought there is the "mirror universe" before the big bang
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< 1679527890 106066 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: the code often has to take the difference between two timestamps, and this difference should fit into a signed integer
< 1679528024 258220 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: you know, like how fseeko or lseek has to take a signed file offset because you can seek relative to the current tell, even if all absolute offsets in a file are nonnegative; or subtracting two pointers into the same array returns a signed integer, which could overflow if the length of your array is more than fits into a signed integer
< 1679528758 457517 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :fair
< 1679528758 829183 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"signed file offset" -- I momentarily tried to read that in a crypto context
< 1679528963 136036 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :idly reminds me of signed pointers :p
< 1679528995 548405 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :though I think the ones with a cryptographic signature are called something else
< 1679529166 91482 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Man, I'm skeptical that "the current file offset" should even be part of the OS file API.
< 1679529237 504803 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :why?
< 1679529248 250380 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :curious about the reasoning
< 1679529353 992615 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess I'm not sure about the benefit of maintaining it in the kernel rather than in userspace.
< 1679529388 480660 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: it's a headache in connection with threads
< 1679529389 562919 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :It doesn't really make sense if you have concurrent reads/writes to the same file -- in that case you presumably always want to pread/pwrite.
< 1679529427 236156 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I sort of feel like the reasoning for it might have to do with things like appends and streams, but even those behave in a kind of bizarre way.
< 1679529435 769615 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, as with many things it's sometimes useful... but how many programs that append interchangeable records to files do you really have?
< 1679529447 517146 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :If a file is in append mode, a write to it ignores the offset anyway.
< 1679529552 872814 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's a fair point re userspace vs kernel space
< 1679529584 939682 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess mmap() alleviates the pain in practice for files that aren't super big, where the "super big" threshold got a massive boost with the switch to 64 bit systems (with 2^48 bits or so address space).
< 1679529586 504095 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe the offset should (also) be maintained in userspace abstractions over the file interface
< 1679529603 264399 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :err
< 1679529610 599681 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :2^48 bytes, 48 bits addresses
< 1679529648 156088 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :mmap has its own problems, though.
< 1679529656 220102 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course
< 1679529669 739611 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :computers don't have free lunches
< 1679529674 459804 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or offer
< 1679529693 614467 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think few programs that use mmap to read a file correctly handle the case where the file is concurrently truncated while reading.
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< 1679529718 366607 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Where you get a SIGBUS.)
< 1679529736 740305 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :don't do that then (tm)
< 1679529804 911517 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And won't that also be a problem if you manage positions in userspace?
< 1679529845 489357 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean, it's possible to handle in both cases.
< 1679529849 966927 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though I guess with a far nicer channel for the error
< 1679529859 600780 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :But one will just return an error from a particular call, and the other will raise a global signal.
< 1679529883 543713 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :If Linux had local signal handlers like Windows that could make handling nicer in this case.
< 1679530942 270830 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think they're up to 57 bits of address space now.
< 1679530984 216881 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, all usable by userspace?
< 1679531001 610052 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know about operating systems, but hardware-wise, on x86-64, by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_5-level_paging
< 1679531058 610475 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think one benefit of the current file offset being a part of the OS file API is so that the same API can be used for files and for pipes.
< 1679531073 846534 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah. Another 9 bit level on top of those 48 bits would do it indeed.
< 1679531123 67935 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Intel-only, maybe? On my relatively modern 3000-series Ryzen, /proc/cpuinfo says "43 bits physical, 48 bits virtual".)
< 1679531296 63247 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, a quick search found nothing more recent than https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-5-Level-Paging-KVM
< 1679531334 635003 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I imagine demand for that isn't too big yet.
< 1679531376 475079 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Here's something I learned about Plan 9 the other day: it has (at least) two uncommon file mode bits, which make it possible at the filesystem permissions level to mark files as "append-only" (ignores offsets in all writes and places the data at the end of the file) and "exclusive use" (may be opened by at most one client at a time). Supposedly convenient for log files.
< 1679531651 709877 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Append-only is something that I had thought before too
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< 1679535117 78689 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: hm interesting
< 1679535134 612917 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :append-only as a filesystem permission... makes a lot of sense really
< 1679536315 742399 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I think linux's ext driver has that too
< 1679536330 179842 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the append-only bit that is
< 1679536471 714485 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :see https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/chattr.1.html , the attribute a is append-only, supported by the ext4 driver
< 1679536558 62009 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think there's an "exclusive use" thing as such, but there's kind of a bit for mandatory locks where you can lock the file for exclusive use, see https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/fcntl.2.html under "Mandatory locking", it just doesn't work very well
< 1679536586 362823 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :honestly that sounds much less useful than append-only
< 1679536606 587366 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :append-only you can imagine like when you send log files to a line printer so they can't be modified easily later
< 1679536627 753888 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course an alternative is sending the log lines to another computer that stores them
< 1679536642 604179 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Linux also has leasing, although that does not prevent accessing the file for very long. You can lease a file that you are writing to so that if anyone reads it, you can ensure that the file is written before anyone else reads it
< 1679536749 842250 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :right, it's just that there's usually no point for that or mandatory locking, because locking doesn't work well when only one party uses locks, the other party could already have started to access the file before you lock it
< 1679536773 176007 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :these are implemented because they are something the kernel can do, but they aren't practically useful
< 1679536913 120606 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, although if the operating system is designed differently then there are ways to be done using transactions, etc. (I had ideas relating to operating system design, and one of them is transactions for I/O capabilities including multiples at once)
< 1679536943 180372 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Since, one at a time may be insufficient)
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< 1679537142 617977 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: even so most of the time both processes that access the file need to be aware of transactions and access the file with them, and you can already use locking to emulate such transactions in user-space. 
< 1679537171 454982 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :kernel support for transactions, which I think Windows has to some extent, can be nice, but I think it's orthogonal to the mandatory locking thing
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< 1679537711 832000 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :You may be right, but depending how the operating system and also how the program is designed (and on which kind of security features you intend), you can improve some uses.
< 1679540018 289450 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :What are your ideas relating to operating system design (including low-level and high-level features)? (Whether or not they are compared to other operating systems, and whether or not they could be added on to another one)
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< 1679585826 586442 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :on the wiki, should [[Category:Implemented]] apply to a language if there's a credible claim that there is or was a working implementation, even if we can't get a copy of that implementation, such as with BANCStar? I'm asking because I found another language where this may be the case
< 1679585912 659306 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm thinking of contacting the programmer and asking for a copy. But I'm somewhat scared because the person who claimed that he'll try to get the BANCStar interpreter from some old floppies disappeared, with only a user on github with recent commits remaining, and I don't want to vanish like that.\
< 1679586090 226144 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :never mind, I found the interpreter, it was merely misplaced, not entirely missing
< 1679586562 263077 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :how do we still not have a bancstar implementation..
< 1679586594 838761 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :feels like surely one must've remained from the 90s, it's not _that_ long ago and was like, used in industry
< 1679586713 11925 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: either because the user who tried to get one got distracted and forgot about it and none of us tried to contact them (eg. through github), or because the floppy was unreadable. the more sinister possibility is that that user sent a copy to mroman but that caused mroman to disappear, but there's evidence against this because mroman
< 1679586713 508091 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :disappeared way too late for that
< 1679586739 354299 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :
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< 1679586745 927228 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also right now I'm trying not to disappear after I said I have a copy of this other language
< 1679586750 667002 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :implementation
< 1679586759 885275 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :best of luck with not disapperaing!
< 1679586762 175959 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because I realize what it looks like from your site
< 1679586986 541163 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :quick question. if a C function delcares a local variable of char type but doesn't initialize it like `char foo;` then in some code path it doesn't initialize it and then runs onto an if statement like `if (foo) yesfoo(); else nofoo();` then does that code path cause undefined behavior on the C level?
< 1679586998 888867 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(yes, I'm reading typical 90s code)
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< 1679587440 719706 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :C11 6.3.2.1p2: "If the lvalue [undergoing lvalue conversion, i.e., being read] designates an object of automatic storage duration that could have been declared with the `register` storage class (never had its address taken), and that object is uninitialized --, the behavior is undefined."
< 1679587522 599675 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, looks like it is UB. not too surprising in a 1990s program, just wanted to know for sure
< 1679587599 940724 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you *do* take its address somewhere, then that rule won't apply, and (I think) it merely has an indeterminate value, and whether it is (or could be) undefined behavior depends on whether the type in question has any trap representations. If `char` is an unsigned type, it can't have any. If it's signed, it might, unless that's specifically disallowed for the character types.
< 1679587662 283755 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I presume in that case some other similar rule might apply, about uninitialized memory
< 1679587818 347806 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe, but I don't think there is a similar general "automatically-undefined" rule about reading uninitialized memory. `malloc` in particular is explicitly called out to give you "an object -- whose value is indeterminate".
< 1679587844 94148 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(An indeterminate value is either an unspecified value or a trap representation.)
< 1679587920 165457 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :And indeed (per C11 6.2.4p6-7) the initial values of uninitialized objects are also indeterminate.
< 1679587926 663143 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok. malloc can be a problem elsewhere, but not for this function-local char variable
< 1679588152 633518 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There *is* a non-normative note in J.2p1 that "-- behavior is undefined [when:] The value of an object with automatic storage duration is used while it is indeterminate", with no additional qualifiers. But the normative sections it refers to are 6.2.4, 6.7.9 and 6.8, and I don't think any of those make it, shall we say, "unconditionally undefined".
< 1679588179 550124 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Accessing it if it does happen to be a trap representation is undefined, of course.)
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> 1679589427 619580 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Legasm14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107604 5* 03B jonas 5* (+3207) 10Created page with "The '''Legasm''' Virtual Machine is a RISC virtual machine implemented in software, invented by Philippe Clavel and [[David Madore]] in 1998.  The machine was originally intended to serve some purpose in the Legendes II game engine, but eventually got abandonned, then la
> 1679589576 257435 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07David Madore14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107605&oldid=94169 5* 03B jonas 5* (+13) 10[[Legasm]]
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> 1679589634 290909 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Legasm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107606&oldid=107604 5* 03B jonas 5* (+22) 10/* Links */
> 1679589643 625896 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107607&oldid=107549 5* 03B jonas 5* (+13) 10[[Legasm]]
< 1679589867 113151 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :documented. hopefully someone downloads the implementation from http://www.madore.org/~david/legendes/versions/l980904.tgz as insurance against me disappearing
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< 1679589897 828906 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I find it funny how this machine has 256 registers, of which all but the 8 bottom and 16 top ones are general-purpose registers
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< 1679591062 926052 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh no, wib_jonas disappeared.
< 1679591067 777309 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The conspiracy got to them.
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< 1679594712 95645 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, he's still there
> 1679594763 346237 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Legasm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107609&oldid=107606 5* 03B jonas 5* (+82) 10carry bit
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< 1679598888 725780 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think LLVM has a "freeze" instruction to force something to have a value even though it was undefined, without needing to specify what value.
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< 1679599003 690681 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :About BANCStar and [[Category:Implemented]], I should think that the implementation should need to be known in order to use that category. However, if an implementation of BANCStar is found, then perhaps some of the things that were guessed, we can figure out which guesses are correct and incorrect, and which things were previously not known, might have possibility to figure out
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< 1679600001 14115 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: ok, but what does "known" mean? for example, if you can buy the implementation but it's rather expensive, imagine Matlab or Mathematica or Dyalog APL but without student discounts or trial versions, does that count as known?
< 1679600146 140996 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or if eg. we have a copy of the interpreter, but it only runs on some rare ancient hardware for which we don't have working hardware or emulator, or only runs on a very expensive Playstation 6, or in Adobe Flash
< 1679600284 971781 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or only on windows-based mobile phones or whatnot
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< 1679600377 389929 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess if it only runs on PS6 then we just wait for ten years, which is not that long for the esolangs community, and the problem solves itself because by then people will both make emulators and figure out how to dump games on that console
< 1679600384 682758 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and then we tag
< 1679600846 200635 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that you could count all of the situations that you describe as "known", although perhaps it might be sensible to define a separate category for implementations which are not commonly accessible due to reasons such as that, maybe. (But, then, how to decide exactly the line, if any?)
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< 1679601009 931659 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: in questionable cases we can just not apply any tag
< 1679601042 908590 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and yes, I don't know of any esolangs with a weird implementation status right now, but if I can imagine it then someone can make an esolang that's deliberately like one of these
< 1679602475 815545 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just re-read isaac asimov the last question
< 1679602526 943699 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, did I prompt that with the 2**63 seconds thing?
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< 1679641109 63758 :orin!~oren@ec2-44-201-23-133.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :So I'm reading these ANCIENT floppies
< 1679641131 604192 :orin!~oren@ec2-44-201-23-133.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :5.25 single sided floppies from the dawn of the PC
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< 1679648990 465410 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :don't copy that floppy
< 1679649029 947261 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I must say I am incredibly impressed by Asimovs "The Last Question" - I don't know how he was so accurate with this prediction
< 1679649046 626304 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :that we would have this superintelligent AI thing we all ask questions to and it just refuses to answer every single time 
< 1679649050 34106 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :he was so ahead of his time
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< 1679650056 167624 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :You wouldn't download a floppy.
< 1679650215 968718 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm. I did that relatively recently
< 1679650257 716779 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Windows95a.img, Windows95b.img.
< 1679650269 678746 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Because the CD isn't bootable.
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< 1679650338 876359 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(while playing with VirtualBox; I also have one for freedos)
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< 1679652109 46681 :orin!~oren@ec2-44-201-23-133.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :how do I open a palæolithic archive format with the header "\0Norton ver 1E" 
< 1679652873 616482 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Huh, MS backup? Fun! https://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1586851
< 1679653025 199696 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(My first guess would've been Norton Utilities)
< 1679653965 717324 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :bootload€rs ar€ still crap
< 1679653992 682675 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :mayb€ sus€s yast bootload€r will do it
< 1679654054 203038 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :just scan all isos imag€s and partitions for bootabl€ things˙ mak€ a m€nu ˙ don€˙ thats th€ promis€
< 1679654077 302263 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :sounds good̉  
< 1679654102 941096 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :how do i fix this shit with th€ € ˙
< 1679654124 148080 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :b€hav€s lik€ altgr is pr€ss€d  
< 1679654177 486755 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :so floppi€s ar€ probably b€tt€r than p€ndriv€s [usb]
< 1679654320 318248 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sometimes a key becomes "unstuck" if you press it again
< 1679654347 146206 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(because keyboards send press and release events and a lost release event results in this situation)
< 1679654355 225516 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sometimes the keyboard is just broken though :P
< 1679654598 743134 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :no stuck k€ys  
< 1679654749 655740 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :no id€ả
< 1679654796 502439 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs : ̉asdfa\̉"''\\'''\\\\\\]]]]]]]]]1122333€4^8^€4€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ €4€€€€€€€ ^^^^^^7444€€€€€€€^78‘i‘’’’‘‘‘’’’¯sdfdssddfgghhjkkkll˛'˛˛˛'''''\\\\\zzxxcvbnmm¸˙̉̉̉̉̉̉̉̉̉̉̉
< 1679654809 449328 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :uhm
< 1679654814 178596 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :now qu€stion mark
< 1679654833 260033 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :local€ or sth qu€stion mark
< 1679654870 869556 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :its obviously not altgr pr€ss€n
< 1679654872 204817 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :d
< 1679654907 259141 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :th€ € symbol is on [fiv€]  
< 1679655001 32185 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :gu€ssss my p€nis is still too big
< 1679655026 246630 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :to acquir€ som€ h€lp  
< 1679655093 4504 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzi€ h€lp m€˙ 
< 1679655124 184342 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :i will ow€ you a favor
< 1679655148 333557 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :two favors̉ ˙˙ok
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< 1679655274 984480 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs : ˙˙th€ gall of m€n '''
< 1679655312 512201 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol˙wh€n ˙ wann jung€ wann
< 1679655342 842515 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wpa: Do you think that's funny? Because it's not.
< 1679655386 299434 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :no˙its a trag€dy˙  so ˙you hav€ an id€a 
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< 1679655397 298858 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :you think im kidding̉
< 1679655400 274 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :im not
< 1679655400 420127 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Assuming that this keyboard problem is real (I still tentatively believe it) you should probably try to fix it without bothering this channel.
< 1679655495 204855 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock JOIN #esolangs sprock :maeve (she/her)
< 1679655512 16368 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :FIZZI€ QU€RỶ
< 1679655531 625496 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you realize that won't hilight, right
< 1679655538 679732 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :if that's your goal
< 1679655554 120778 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :i hav€ tim€
< 1679655640 816862 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, reboot, then find a different keyboard if that doesn't fix it
< 1679655861 767094 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzi€ is a g€nius ˙ mayb€ will h€lp ˙
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< 1679660365 482971 :orin!~oren@ec2-44-201-23-133.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :ÿöú ńèëḑ ţŏ ŕêßȯōṭ
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< 1679663038 401833 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :`zalgo why would i reboot
< 1679663040 814075 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :w̦̰hͣͭý͡ ̩̑w̉ͩo̘̞u҉̈ļ̘d̘̹ ̱͘iͯ̂ ̧ͯr̭̐e͕͇b͂ͭo̪͎ȏ͜t̗͟
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> 1679669032 915232 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Codon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107614&oldid=107613 5* 03Dtp09 5* (-145) 10/* Opcodes */
> 1679669096 946624 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Codon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107615&oldid=107614 5* 03Dtp09 5* (-12) 10/* Hello, World! */
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> 1679670122 805961 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Codon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107616&oldid=107615 5* 03Dtp09 5* (-9) 10/* Opcodes */
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> 1679673939 331322 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Codon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107617&oldid=107616 5* 03Dtp09 5* (+414) 10/* Examples */
> 1679674410 715576 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bfbot14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107618&oldid=67297 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (-106) 10dead link
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< 1679726004 745748 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Inherent mode is a pretentious way of saying there is no data to address. "
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< 1679765776 416766 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :don't forget, this night will have the DST offset adjustment in Europe (except Iceland), so work starts an hour early on Monday
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< 1679769554 851507 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Does any version of GCC or LLVM have a possibility to set a soft time limit for optimization?
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< 1679772194 910900 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I tried to do a reverse turing test with chatgpt
< 1679772213 154219 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :it misunderstood and thought it was a normal turing test
< 1679772338 375057 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :what's a reverse turing test, asking questions only a computer could anwser?
< 1679772823 358651 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :Do you like the reverse turing test?
< 1679772849 103836 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly:  it is when the AI gets to ask questions, and must determine if they are talking to a human or an AI
< 1679772889 127643 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :o
< 1679772890 322135 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I will do one with 10 questions instead of just 3
> 1679772953 596838 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GolFunc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107632&oldid=107630 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+19) 10/* Preset functions */
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> 1679773212 386550 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GolFunc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107633&oldid=107632 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+134) 10/* Example programs */
> 1679773343 143740 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GolFunc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107634&oldid=107633 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+67) 10/* Truth Machine */
> 1679773366 56786 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GolFunc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107635&oldid=107634 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+39) 10
> 1679773390 507009 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GolFunc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107636&oldid=107635 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+27) 10
> 1679773402 54842 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GolFunc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107637&oldid=107636 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+10) 10
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> 1679773438 739715 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GolFunc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107639&oldid=107638 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (-1) 10
> 1679773465 258107 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GolFunc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107640&oldid=107639 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+30) 10
> 1679773537 534267 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category talk:Golfing language14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107641 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+156) 10Created page with "== Naming ==  Shouldn't we name it in plural, "Golfing Languages"? ~~~~"
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< 1679774816 929504 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :http://zzo38computer.org/backup/utf8monoculturists.html While much of this is valid, there are things that they have failed to consider. What features of Unicode are redundant or are relevant depends on the application, and often many of its features are undesirable, but which ones these are can differ. However, there may also often be desirable features, that Unicode doesn't have.
> 1679774833 620469 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GolFunc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107642&oldid=107640 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+25) 10/* Preset functions */
< 1679774845 475777 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, conversion is not always possible, and does not always preserve certain properties.
< 1679774938 158910 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :And, sometimes, it is not necessary (or helpful) to fully specify the character encoding of a file; for example, sometimes just "extended ASCII" is sufficient. (And, if necessary, then usually you could declare the character set, if the file format supports that possibility.)
< 1679774981 803612 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Free Hero Mesh class definition file uses PC character set by default, but the file can declare a different character set (although it is always required to be extended ASCII, which means that Shift-JIS cannot be used).
< 1679775809 589956 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Some programs can ignore character encodings without needing to assume a single global standard. Not having character encodings at all can simplify the program if that program does not need it (which many will not need, although also some will need, so you should consider if it is the case or not, if you are writing such a program).
> 1679776810 611117 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Categorization14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107643&oldid=105224 5* 03Jesse Hamlin-Navias 5* (+14) 10/* Paradigm */ added link to imperative paradigm
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> 1679777149 207787 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RifL14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107644 5* 03Jesse Hamlin-Navias 5* (+14302) 10First posting of RifL page
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> 1679777250 300468 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107645&oldid=107607 5* 03Jesse Hamlin-Navias 5* (+11) 10Added RifL
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> 1679791686 291387 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Tora 5*  10New user account
> 1679792167 545731 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107646&oldid=107583 5* 03Tora 5* (+259) 10/* Introductions */
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> 1679813399 810288 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Codon/codon.js14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107647 5* 03Dtp09 5* (+6567) 10Created page with "This is a function I wrote to execute Codon programs. Given the program as the first parameter and the input as the second parameter, it will return the output. If there is an error compiling, it will log to the console and return no value. If the input is not spec
> 1679813533 487241 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Codon/codon.js14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107648&oldid=107647 5* 03Dtp09 5* (-17) 10
> 1679813749 150125 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Codon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107649&oldid=107617 5* 03Dtp09 5* (+96) 10
> 1679813774 674701 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Codon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107650&oldid=107649 5* 03Dtp09 5* (-2) 10
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< 1679816910 555149 :orin!~oren@ec2-44-201-23-133.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :what compression program has the best speed/compression tradeoff ratio, when youre compressing a big folder that has some already compressed files in it?
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> 1679824286 415567 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esimpl14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107651&oldid=98270 5* 03Ais523 5* (+1) 10/* Absolute binary syntax */ a couple of typo/thinko fixes
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< 1679830361 94155 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a good question, but I do not know
< 1679830371 983425 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it common that attemping to compress compressed data will be very slow, due to the high entropy?
< 1679830401 442497 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :perhaps a BWT (bzip2) based compression will not suffer as much from this
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> 1679833683 935508 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Joaozin003/Developing area14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107652&oldid=107629 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+464) 10
> 1679833758 991549 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Joaozin003/Developing area14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107653&oldid=107652 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+13) 10/* Address space */
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< 1679834738 791840 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :a parallel was drawn between the (reverse) turing test and bladerunner
< 1679834741 907479 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I never thought of that
< 1679834911 429250 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :can someone explain the appeal of befunge to me?
< 1679835046 78125 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :tortoise test
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< 1679835081 268088 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :i mean...
< 1679835129 217422 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :river: the tortoise test
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< 1679835216 235621 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i never heard of it
< 1679835241 109455 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :befunge is appealing because it is appalling
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< 1679835356 816017 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :tortoise test is part of the test for empathic responses in blade runner
< 1679835401 568711 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :one of the well-remembered questions
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< 1679835727 669785 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyone here have any electric sheep?
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< 1679836167 987036 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i am going to rewatch bladerunner today
< 1679836602 542831 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :befunge lacks conditionals?
< 1679836735 709229 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh...found them
> 1679836939 499330 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GolFunc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107654&oldid=107642 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (+57) 10
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< 1679837758 884720 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://googology.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:JohnTromp/The_largest_number_representable_in_64_bits
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< 1679838252 830294 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :got an idea for a threaded variant of befunge
> 1679838830 546959 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107655&oldid=107646 5* 03Lykaina 5* (+139) 10
< 1679838996 690329 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :i used to have the account lesidhetree.
< 1679839049 656075 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :at some point in the past i made Lykaina to match my irc nick
> 1679839265 488039 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Lykaina14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107656 5* 03Lykaina 5* (+110) 10Created page with "Hi, I'm Lykaina on Libera. I used to be [[User:Lesidhetree|Lesidhetree]], but I don't go by that name anymore."
> 1679839413 630360 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Lykaina14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107657&oldid=107656 5* 03Lykaina 5* (+49) 10
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< 1679840056 882671 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooh
< 1679840068 591348 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :this64 bits thing looks interesting
< 1679840263 365562 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :that was cool. I knew it was going to be BLC before I opened it :>
< 1679840623 729750 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i imagine it is undecidable to know what is truly the largest number representable in 64 bits with this encoding
> 1679840971 843159 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Lykaina14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107658&oldid=107657 5* 03Lykaina 5* (+88) 10
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> 1679841459 549367 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GolFunc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107659&oldid=107654 5* 03Joaozin003 5* (-14) 10/* Truth Machine */
> 1679841535 235060 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fungeball14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107660 5* 03Lykaina 5* (+202) 10Created page with "A two-dimensional multi-"threaded" language inspired by [[Befunge]].  Created by [[User:Lykaina|Lykaina]] and currently a work in progress.  [[Category:Languages]] [[Category:Two-dimensional languages]]"
> 1679841729 619610 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107661&oldid=107645 5* 03Lykaina 5* (+16) 10/* F */
< 1679841762 144205 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :i hope i'm editing the wiki correctly
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< 1679844874 886989 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :befunge is surprisingly good for codegolf
> 1679844977 506888 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:K.avi14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107662 5* 03K.avi 5* (+131) 10Created page with "Hi I'm K.avi an undergrad CS student interrested in learning about writing interpreters and compilers! I don't know much yet though"
< 1679845053 637985 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course, fungeball will make more sense if viewed from a hex editor
< 1679845085 708346 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :or with an ascii table handy
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< 1679845672 567832 :Lykaina!~sara@user/lykaina PRIVMSG #esolangs :no...i don't need *that* many directionals...
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> 1679867318 901890 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07(SIASL)14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107663 5* 03K.avi 5* (+1598) 10Created page with "==Presentation==  (SIASL) is an Esolang belonging to the Turing tarpit family of languages. it takes inspiration from [[Brainfuck]].The most simple way to descripe it would be as some sort of 2d Brainfuck see [[Generic_2D_Brainfuck]] and 2dFuck for reference.the name SIAS
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> 1679871594 200318 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107677&oldid=107661 5* 03K.avi 5* (+16) 10/* Non-alphabetic */
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> 1679871969 621081 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07(SIASL)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107678&oldid=107676 5* 03K.avi 5* (-134) 10/* Presentation */
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> 1679872798 513786 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07(SIASL)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107681&oldid=107680 5* 03K.avi 5* (+21) 10
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< 1679910575 536748 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :well done!
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< 1679913710 80691 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i rewatched blade runner and taht was really cool. now I know the turtle test
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< 1679929094 499510 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :olist : shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
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< 1679943183 626492 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :`bc 2^64
< 1679943185 278067 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :File 2^64 is unavailable.
< 1679943187 436687 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :`calc 2^64
< 1679943190 702891 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :18446744073709551616
< 1679943267 870450 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :tromp: in the article it says 9,something, but this says 18,something
< 1679943299 40925 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :`calc 2^63-1
< 1679943301 896191 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :9223372036854775807
< 1679943310 454788 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i guess this one is when you use twos compliment
< 1679943331 4661 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` bc <<<'2^64'
< 1679943331 673969 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i dont think this matters for the article
< 1679943332 14342 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :18446744073709551616
< 1679943335 446580 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah thanks
< 1679945079 394639 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, good catch!
< 1679945125 460404 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :fixed. thanks!
< 1679945159 980077 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`' compl[ei]ment
< 1679945161 175156 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No output.
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< 1679956975 570308 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Does GRUB convey EFI variables to Linux somehow? Are they lost? Does Linux attempt to read directly without using UEFI's runtime services?
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< 1679960188 262838 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :All I know is, on many distributions there's an instance of efivarfs mounted at /sys/firmware/efi/efivars. (And if you try to reinstall grub to fix a broken thing while chroot'd into a /target, and have just done a simple, non-recursive --bind mount of /sys into /target/sys, it may fail because it tries to have something to do with those.)
< 1679960864 868736 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :TIL (unrelated) that the kernel can pretend to be a PE/COFF image that can directly be loaded as an (U)EFI executable, according to https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/efi-stub.html
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< 1679964684 283247 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that UEFI is no good. I had idea how to make better one. The booting order will be configured, and then at the end is the ROM OS (which would be a Forth-based system stored in ROM, so that the computer can be used without an operating system). The disk has the table with three columns: computer type, address on disk, length. (You can have more than one with the same computer type, if desired.)
< 1679964780 185117 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :And then, it is simply loaded into memory and executed (like PC booting does). The BIOS will provide the functions available for boot loader: "input ASCII", "output ASCII", "read disk", "read parameter", "next boot". (There is no "write disk" function; use operating system drivers if you want to write on disks.)
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< 1679969211 435267 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :that... sounds pretty similar to the old BIOS system used on x86 machines
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< 1679972117 514245 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, it is similar to PC BIOS in some ways. (On a computer that is a PC, it would even be possible to also implement PC BIOS and PC booting system too, so PC-based operating systems will work too.) However, it is different in some ways.
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< 1679983576 99942 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I implemented EUC-JP (if I have not made a mistake), and EUC-TRON (which is a superset of EUC-JP), but now I will try to implement encode/decode Shift-JIS, which is a bit more complicated and more messy (I think that EUC-JP is generally better than Shift-JIS anyways, especially for C codes; Shift-JIS is no good for any format that uses the ASCII characters 0x40 to 0x7E for special purposes, including C codes)
< 1679983806 928122 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Possibly also can add in future, EUC-CN, EUC-KR, EUC-TW, EUC-XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, etc)
< 1679984158 656712 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-29-3.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: directly loading a kernel without a boot loader, and not from a floppy disk boot sector? what is this magic?
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< 1680083244 521290 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :today I am reading about GPT/LLMs
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> 1680124156 531888 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07O++14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107700 5* 03JvEso 5* (+966) 10Created page with "'''O++''' is a esolang which is inspired by [[O]] and '''C++'''. Unlike [[O]], '''O++''' is not stack-oriented. Be aware that this esolang is nowhere near completion, and things might be changed alot. =Examples= ==Hello World!==  "Hello World!">>o ==[[Cat]]==  i>>o =Printing= 
> 1680124179 457314 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07O++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107701&oldid=107700 5* 03JvEso 5* (-24) 10
> 1680124220 951499 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=107702&oldid=107677 5* 03JvEso 5* (+10) 10
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> 1680138057 427380 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Purah126 5*  10New user account
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> 1680176833 527892 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nopfunge Solid14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107717 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+4039) 10Simplifying Nopfunge.
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> 1680177042 242868 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Turnfunge14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=107718 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+6253) 10Simplifying Nopfunge Solid.
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< 1680232803 283635 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can a Siege creature attack itself?
< 1680234739 373817 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm suddenly very curious about that, but feel like it's hard to know unless someone asks WotC staff or until the rules update is released
< 1680237471 918887 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I would guess that it can, although I don't know for sure.
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ACTION wonders whether life would be better with /ignore -full -pattern chatgpt

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< 1680278731 729375 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38, a well-known Magic the Gathering personality is asking the same question, in the context of a specific combo. Liquimetal Coating + Ensoul Artifact
< 1680278733 881790 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://twitter.com/SaffronOlive/status/1641832560362758145
< 1680279819 820081 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that it ought to be allowed. Someone mentioned it might die due to toughness, and depending on the number of damage dealt, yes; you will have to ensure not dealing too much damage in one turn (whether from itself or from blockers), but that is just a part of the strategy.
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< 1680283940 552585 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :So, I think the strategy described on Twitter will not work because it has power equal to its toughness and will die before the trigger can resolve. You will need to give it less power than its toughness (perhaps by playing Defensive Stance; then its power is 4 which is still enough to remove all of the defense counters)
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< 1680292800 549321 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38, Battle Creatures can't attack or block
< 1680292822 581771 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://twitter.com/WotC_Matt/status/1641856801363853315
< 1680292883 897885 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I saw that a bit earlier today. (I think that the game would be better without such a rule though, and also without a rule that creatures cannot be attached to other stuff.)
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