< 1685925755 286677 :Soni!~quassel@autistic.space QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1685928988 582116 :^[!~user@user//x-8473491 JOIN #esolangs ^[ :user > 1685930562 541875 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109713&oldid=109503 5* 03Esolanger12345 5* (-43) 10 > 1685930596 905559 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109714&oldid=109713 5* 03Esolanger12345 5* (-1) 10got rid of stray dot > 1685930631 233627 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109715&oldid=109714 5* 03Esolanger12345 5* (+11) 10verified > 1685930677 432211 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Omicron14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109716&oldid=109684 5* 03DrKilobyte 5* (+33) 10 < 1685931414 889389 :Soni!~quassel@autistic.space JOIN #esolangs SoniEx2 :Genders: Autgender, 💜🖤💚; Soni L. < 1685931681 892001 :Soni!~quassel@autistic.space QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds > 1685931862 759157 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Omicron14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109717&oldid=109691 5* 03DrKilobyte 5* (+954) 10 > 1685932352 752092 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:DrKilobyte14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109718&oldid=109653 5* 03DrKilobyte 5* (+68) 10 < 1685932478 442198 :Soni!~quassel@autistic.space JOIN #esolangs SoniEx2 :Genders: Autgender, 💜🖤💚; Soni L. > 1685932987 953658 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Omicron14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109719&oldid=109716 5* 03DrKilobyte 5* (+2) 10 < 1685933000 304335 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds > 1685935908 857674 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Omicron14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109720&oldid=109719 5* 03DrKilobyte 5* (-4) 10 < 1685936012 146365 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca JOIN #esolangs zzo38 :zzo38 < 1685942144 421606 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net JOIN #esolangs bgs :bgs < 1685943956 193770 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://github.com/TodePond/DreamBerd > 1685944746 949306 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Parth Patel14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109721&oldid=109682 5* 03Parth4apple 5* (+0) 10fix broken link < 1685945238 371107 :bgs!~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1685950716 765402 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: Where are you? < 1685950720 897880 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`' < 1685950723 40488 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :612) also who it a tome, a small one < 1685950911 939197 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I wanted to ask when C++ added the ' separator for integer literals... it's C++14) < 1685951288 294034 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1685951474 359228 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i thought _ was better for that < 1685951515 59994 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It looks nicer but having any separator is occasionally helpful. < 1685951563 651499 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION has octal bitmasks representing a 3^3 cube, so they naturally come in groups of three.
> 1685954132 910786 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07H14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109722&oldid=90282 5* 03OsmineYT 5* (+1) 10No more WIP, changed some grammar > 1685955568 848088 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Negate14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109723&oldid=80360 5* 03OsmineYT 5* (+1) 10Fixed formatting < 1685955697 317421 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1685955850 364417 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1685955943 4147 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1685956312 526358 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1685957416 35884 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :river: I imagine the rationale is that they couldn't use comma, so they lifted it up instead. < 1685957431 637087 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Rust actually uses underscores. < 1685957442 506148 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :that is insane < 1685957454 763139 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :`fungot ' is the upcomma < 1685957456 295671 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot? No such file or directory < 1685957518 382721 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Obviously it's also possible that ' as a separator actually exists and I'm unaware.) < 1685958804 917192 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1685961419 586901 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1685961448 799961 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :river, int-e: we can't use underscore as the digit separator because that would clash with user-defined numeric literal syntax < 1685961514 293637 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :as in, in `0x5_A00` the `_A00` is a udl suffix, whereas in `0x5'A00` the apostrophe is a digit separator < 1685961611 864938 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1685961692 439930 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2023-04-25.html#lc < 1685961789 342590 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: eh, people historically used just about every permutation of tiny spots for a decimal point, digit separator, and multiplication point. I've seen lower point for multiplication and upper point for decimal point in old books I think. < 1685961827 699606 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and yes, I think apostrophe was used at some point. I'm sticking to either thin space or underscore outside of C or C++ code. < 1685961846 400874 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :usually underscore in IRC. < 1685961967 630046 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn PRIVMSG #esolangs :Alternative to thousands separators is exponential notation. IMO it's usually warranted if there's enough digits to make it hard to read. < 1685962321 424761 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :__monty__: you mean writing (1<<41) instead of 0x0000_0300_0000_0000 ? no! let the poor programmer who inherits my job suffer and count digits. < 1685962406 553334 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot, are you fearsome or fearful, and what's the difference? < 1685962522 7935 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/3/2/ < 1685962611 904486 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, let them find that bug too < 1685962685 148123 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :0x55555555 is more readable than ((1 << 32) - 1) / 3 < 1685963213 783875 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :uh < 1685963229 131703 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? ioccclist < 1685963231 332157 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ioccclist is update notification for when a new year of the International Obfuscated C Code Contest is announced, or the winners for a year is announced, or the source codes of winners are released. http://www.ioccc.org/#news < 1685963278 852036 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :their website is scary, it says "2023-05-22 We have been busy preparing for an important / significant update to this web site. In the temp-test-ioccc GitHiub repo, we have made nearly 2000 changes to date." etc < 1685963301 573584 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :has the IOCCC team been abducted and taken over by a corporate who hired full stack web developers? < 1685963335 178354 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Fixing Makefiles and code to allow for nearly all winners to be compiled on modern systems" NO! don't ruin the history < 1685963358 856193 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Setting up a system whereby authors of IOCCC entries may update their own contact information via a GitHub pull request" => definitely taken over by a corporate < 1685963370 735171 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Setting up to generate the top level winners.html file via a tool" < 1685963402 870426 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :doesn't sound like it's the real IOCCC time. Microsoft must have brought them out < 1685963432 189211 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"We are working on an improved IOCCC submit server that will allow those who submit entires to be informed about the status of their submission." => that is definitely something the old IOCCC team wouldn't do < 1685963513 695296 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Any corrections, improvement, typo fixes and other fixes will be applied to the winners via GitHub pull requests: by the authors and/or other interested 3rd parties." also < 1685963542 139818 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a sad end to the three decade old tradition < 1685963880 640311 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs SGautam :Siddharth Gautam < 1685965516 763908 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :one of the three "C" now stands for "committee" < 1685965533 90463 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or "corporate" or "company" < 1685965623 828599 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :normally we'd have to name http://underhanded-c.org/ as their successor, but since that contest has been absent for over five years, the position is just vacant < 1685967444 512713 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :international olympic committee for cryptic coding? < 1685967783 577131 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1685968842 7802 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure if it's about cryptic coding anymore. it will be about enterprise-quality coding. < 1685968924 829314 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn PRIVMSG #esolangs :TBF that's usually quite cryptic. < 1685968936 513667 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :look, they even have https://github.com/ioccc-src/temp-test-ioccc/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md a "Contributor Covenant Code of Conduct" with "Our Pledge" < 1685968980 376524 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :they probably copied that straight from some modern website template thing < 1685969153 911465 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1685969177 542054 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1685969695 797460 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds > 1685971119 561464 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07An Odd Rewriting System/odd.rs14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109724&oldid=109640 5* 03Pro465 5* (+0) 10idk when i made this bug, it worked the first time > 1685971456 799998 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109725&oldid=109502 5* 03B jonas 5* (+122) 10/* Incomplete list of some interesting or notable esolangs */ link [[The Subtyping Machine]] < 1685972376 128284 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity > 1685973566 492096 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Help14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109726&oldid=97392 5* 03NewlightcallsfornewSOUP 5* (+42) 10/* Code */ > 1685973659 31438 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Help14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109727&oldid=109726 5* 03NewlightcallsfornewSOUP 5* (-27) 10/* Code */ > 1685975643 560123 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109728&oldid=109715 5* 03NewlightcallsfornewSOUP 5* (+12770) 10/* Other Stuff */ > 1685975883 144735 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109729&oldid=109728 5* 03NewlightcallsfornewSOUP 5* (+44) 10/* Important Math Formulas */ < 1685976101 848976 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname > 1685977402 216767 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109730&oldid=109025 5* 03NewlightcallsfornewSOUP 5* (+763) 10/* Joke/Silly Ideas */ < 1685979909 984959 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1685984524 477768 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1685984568 47532 :CAT_S!apic@brezn3.muc.ccc.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1685985390 45630 :CAT_S!apic@brezn3.muc.ccc.de JOIN #esolangs CAT_S :A. Pic. - my name since YOLD 3149 < 1685987657 927526 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1685987753 416850 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf JOIN #esolangs shachaf :Shachaf Ben-Kiki < 1685989813 721858 :MrAureliusR!~MrAureliu@user/mraureliusr QUIT :Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in < 1685989981 111405 :MrAureliusR!~MrAureliu@user/mraureliusr JOIN #esolangs MrAureliusR :Got ZNC? > 1685994571 252023 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Quassaunt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109731&oldid=109570 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+19) 10I don't know how I messed up the example that badly > 1685994984 337995 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Sugueziume14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109732&oldid=100197 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+0) 10 > 1685995309 296902 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Sugueziume14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109733&oldid=109732 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (-1) 10 < 1685996197 222378 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Free Hero Mesh also has a notation like {bit 3 15 21} for numbers, which is another alternative than using shifts or literals, or than ((1<<3)|(1<<15)|(1<<21)). In C, macros can be another way, e.g. (BIT3|BIT15|BIT21) or using names for what the bits correspond to. < 1685996225 32612 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Using apostrophes for digit separators in C might mean needing to change preprocessor and other programs that expect a apostrophe to be used for character literals, I think. < 1685996263 191673 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(And, I do not know how is "udl" working in C) < 1685996887 965803 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, GNU documentation says that the source character set "must be isomorphic with ISO 10646", but this, and even the handling of character set conversion in general, can be problematic, I think. Are they going to fix that, too? (Disabling character conversion, with an option to warn for non-ASCII characters (and some control characters), seems better to me.) < 1685997277 759789 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(My own operating system design requires that it is not isomorphic with ISO 10646. It also has different handling of file names, but that is not an issue with the preprocessor when doing cross compilation.) < 1685997385 119549 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The use of UTF-8 complicates the processing: It will need tro be converted from ISO-8859-1 (even if that is not the actual character set it is encoded in) into UTF-8, and then preprocessed and converted back to ISO-8859-1, and then after any extra processing steps converted back to UTF-8 and then you must tell the compiler to convert it back to ISO-8859-1; it seems like it is very messy. < 1685997528 80094 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :They should also fix the C standard (if they have not done already) so that multi-character literals will be handled in an acceptable way (which GCC does, but Microsoft doesn't). < 1685998766 883876 :vyv!~vyv@76.65.5.168 JOIN #esolangs vyv :vyv verver < 1685999116 821900 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1685999285 909221 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sprupine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=109734 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+3547) 10Created page with "Sprupine (named after Spruce and Pine trees) is a self-modifying esolang by [[User:BoundedBeans]] with binary tree code. ==Syntax== Keep in mind, a binary tree can be represented as an array. For example: 1 / \ 5 9 / \ / \ 6 0 2 3 Can be repr > 1685999359 891764 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109735&oldid=109694 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+15) 10 > 1685999402 132816 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:BoundedBeans14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109736&oldid=109290 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+14) 10 > 1686000267 183624 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:JakkOfKlubs14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=109737 5* 03JakkOfKlubs 5* (+69) 10Created page with "== Contact == * Contact on Discord at Quinn Wuest#7429." > 1686000697 545627 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03QuinnWuest 5* 10New user account < 1686000920 37799 :vyv!~vyv@76.65.5.168 QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! > 1686000949 81977 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109738&oldid=109708 5* 03QuinnWuest 5* (+138) 10/* Introductions */ > 1686000975 367318 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Efghij14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109739&oldid=87741 5* 03QuinnWuest 5* (-1) 10Username change. (New account) > 1686001054 551433 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:QuinnWuest14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=109740 5* 03QuinnWuest 5* (+113) 10Created page with "== Hello Word == * I'm Quinn Wuest. == Contact me == * Contact me on Discord at Quinn Wuest#7429." < 1686002052 728388 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1686003609 472959 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1686008658 647132 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BitQueue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=109741&oldid=107531 5* 03DivergentClouds 5* (+108) 10clarified edge case regarding blocks < 1686009231 38413 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Which existing programs to parse C tokens will have to be changed if they use apostrophe for numbers like that? < 1686009449 899085 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds