00:36:01 [[Fuck-brain]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111915&oldid=111910 * None1 * (+12) /* Accumulator */ 00:38:12 [[Fuck-brain]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111916&oldid=111915 * None1 * (+0) /* Example Prograns */ 00:40:23 [[.fuck]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=111917 * None1 * (+21) Redirected page to [[Dotfuck]] 00:42:38 [[Dotfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111918&oldid=111903 * None1 * (+0) /* Execution */ 00:42:52 [[Dotfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111919&oldid=111918 * None1 * (+1) /* Execution */ 00:44:42 [[Dotfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111920&oldid=111919 * None1 * (+20) /* Why is it brain-exploding */ 00:53:00 [[C-Shop]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=111921 * None1 * (+267) Created page with "C-Shop is an esolang created by [[User:None1]], it has nothing to do with the non-esoteric language C# except that they have similar pronouciation. ==Syntax== Every line in C-Shop can be on of these: Welcome to C-Shop This must be the first line of the program." 01:01:51 [[C-Shop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111922&oldid=111921 * None1 * (+258) /* Syntax */ 01:04:22 [[C-Shop]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111923&oldid=111922 * None1 * (+63) 01:07:11 [[C-Shop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111924&oldid=111923 * None1 * (+67) /* Syntax */ 01:13:04 [[C-Shop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111925&oldid=111924 * None1 * (+82) 01:15:00 [[C-Shop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111926&oldid=111925 * None1 * (+120) 01:25:05 [[C-Shop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111927&oldid=111926 * None1 * (+1) /* Syntax */ 01:28:04 [[C-Shop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111928&oldid=111927 * None1 * (+79) /* Syntax */ 01:28:17 [[C-Shop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111929&oldid=111928 * None1 * (+0) 01:28:31 [[C-Shop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111930&oldid=111929 * None1 * (+0) 01:29:04 [[C-Shop]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111931&oldid=111930 * None1 * (-79) /* Syntax */ 01:32:06 [[C-Shop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111932&oldid=111931 * None1 * (+201) 01:32:23 [[C-Shop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111933&oldid=111932 * None1 * (+0) /* One Time Cat */ 01:33:28 [[C-Shop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111934&oldid=111933 * None1 * (+79) /* One Time Cat */ 01:41:53 [[C-Shop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111935&oldid=111934 * None1 * (+848) /* Example Programs */ 01:47:29 [[C-Shop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111936&oldid=111935 * None1 * (+97) 01:48:05 [[Esolang Simply Created To Annoy People Who Dislike Scratch]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=111937 * AnotherTakenName * (+3877) Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Esolang Simply Created To Annoy People Who Dislike Scratch |author=[[User:AnotherTakenName|AnotherTakenName]] |year=[[:Category:2023|2023]] |majorimpl=[https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/ 01:48:28 [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111938&oldid=111909 * None1 * (+60) 01:49:18 [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111939&oldid=111880 * None1 * (+13) /* C */ 01:49:55 [[C-Shop]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111940&oldid=111936 * None1 * (+0) /* Hello World */ 01:51:27 [[Crop]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111941&oldid=111810 * None1 * (+0) /* Example Programs */ 01:51:47 [[Esolang Simply Created To Annoy People Who Dislike Scratch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111942&oldid=111937 * AnotherTakenName * (+27) 01:53:01 [[ESCTAPWDS]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=111943 * AnotherTakenName * (+83) Redirected page to [[Esolang Simply Created To Annoy People Who Dislike Scratch]] 01:57:18 [[Esolang Simply Created To Annoy People Who Dislike Scratch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111944&oldid=111942 * AnotherTakenName * (+1) /* Cat 2 */ 01:59:15 [[Esolang Simply Created To Annoy People Who Dislike Scratch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111945&oldid=111944 * AnotherTakenName * (-7) /* Cat 1 */ 02:05:48 -!- APic has joined. 02:16:55 -!- razetime has joined. 02:23:31 [[Scratch is dumb]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=111946 * None1 * (+1301) Created page with "Scratch is dumb is an esolang made by [[User:None1]], it is made to response to the person who invented the esolang [[Esolang Simply Created To Annoy People Who Dislike Scratch]], who want to annoy people who dislike scratch. This esolang will tell you that Scratc 02:24:52 [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111947&oldid=111938 * None1 * (+74) 02:29:07 [[Scratch is dumb]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111948&oldid=111946 * None1 * (+380) /* Example Programs */ 02:29:44 [[Scratch is dumb]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111949&oldid=111948 * None1 * (+10) /* Hello World */ wrap 02:30:13 [[Scratch is dumb]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111950&oldid=111949 * None1 * (+12) /* Hello World */ multiline code 02:31:09 [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111951&oldid=111939 * None1 * (+22) /* S */ 02:32:07 [[Scratch is dumb]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111952&oldid=111950 * None1 * (+53) 02:35:06 [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111953&oldid=111799 * None1 * (+426) Added Scratch is dumb to hello world programs list 02:37:34 [[Scratch is dumb]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111954&oldid=111952 * None1 * (+121) 02:39:04 [[Scratch is dumb]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111955&oldid=111954 * None1 * (+91) 03:00:33 [[You can without a brainfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111956&oldid=111751 * D * (+12) 03:01:45 [[You can without a brainfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111957&oldid=111956 * D * (-12) /* See also */ 03:05:25 [[Dotfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111958&oldid=111920 * D * (+43) 03:47:50 -!- razetime has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 04:02:49 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 04:36:15 -!- razetime has joined. 04:42:06 -!- razetime has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 07:32:24 [[Talk:I/D machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111959&oldid=111452 * Pro465 * (+458) /* I cant see why this is turing complete */ clarify 08:40:35 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…). 12:04:24 -!- tromp has joined. 12:11:04 -!- SGautam has joined. 12:11:58 [[Dotfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111963&oldid=111958 * None1 * (+148) /* Execution */ .fuck has no decrement. 12:14:21 [[Dotfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111964&oldid=111963 * None1 * (+56) /* Turing completeness */ 12:14:24 Yay I still know how to make a rocket (shapez.io) 12:17:00 (not very efficiently but who cares) 12:18:16 [[Scratch is dumb]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111965&oldid=111955 * None1 * (-13) /* Introduction */ redundant words 12:19:52 [[Scratch is dumb]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111966&oldid=111965 * None1 * (+65) /* Turing completeness */ 12:20:23 [[Scratch is dumb]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111967&oldid=111966 * None1 * (+1) Third person 12:21:21 [[Scratch is dumb]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111968&oldid=111967 * None1 * (+16) 2023 12:21:44 [[Dotfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111969&oldid=111964 * None1 * (+18) 12:23:33 int-e: are you doing a fresh playthrough or just adding more lanes into your big factory? 12:23:58 or cleaning up the factory perhaps 12:24:34 b_jonas: I started from scratch because I got the game on steam and now I'm collecting achievements (without try-harding, just seeing what I can get from a single playthrough). Also it had been 10 months since I touched it. 12:25:19 I see 12:25:35 (I got it on steam for the puzzle DLC if you remember. Which... is okay, but not something one must get.) 12:30:17 [[Dotfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111970&oldid=111969 * None1 * (+2322) /* Why is it brain-exploding */ Replace with an exact number generated by Python on my laptop, and figured out that you DO need 2^2000+ dots because dotfuck has no decrement. 12:31:00 I'm not sure whether I'll go beyond a single factory.. certainly no more than 4. 12:31:18 [[Dotfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111971&oldid=111970 * None1 * (+113) 12:31:57 (I don't get achievements if I use a savegame that used a mod, so I'll have to rebuild the slice maker from scratch) 12:32:14 (though I can obviously resuse the design) 12:33:36 (4 factories is a sweet spot for the overall layout, because you can have a 4-fold rotational symmetry easily) 12:35:52 If I find some extra motivation I might finish up https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/shapez-v5x6-wip.png to see whether it achieves the, was it 40 seconds or 30 seconds per level that is hard? at 10x speed. 12:36:47 (it's funny; it's really only missing the control logic but somehow I ran out of steam on the last mile) 12:37:49 Ultimately the fact that the 8-factory design I had basically finished didn't run at 60 fps really killed the drive. 12:38:41 [[Dotfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111972&oldid=111971 * None1 * (+336) /* Why is it brain-exploding */ 12:40:09 [[Dotfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111973&oldid=111972 * None1 * (+1) /* Why is it brain-exploding */ typo 12:46:55 [[Dotfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111974&oldid=111973 * None1 * (-161) /* Why is it brain-exploding */ Not that many, but still a crazy number! 13:23:30 [[User:None1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111975&oldid=111947 * None1 * (-1) No s. 13:31:13 [[]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=111976 * None1 * (+158) Created page with " is an esolang created by [[User:None1]], is is the same as [[]], but all the emojis are replaced with Chinese characters, making it easier to type." 13:33:32 [[]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111977&oldid=111976 * None1 * (+225) 13:33:41 [[]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111978&oldid=111977 * None1 * (+1) /* =Cat Program */ 13:33:58 [[]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111979&oldid=111978 * None1 * (+0) typo 13:34:32 [[]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111980&oldid=111979 * None1 * (+37) /* Example Programs */ 13:35:01 [[]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111981&oldid=111980 * None1 * (+2) /* Hello World */ quotes 13:36:03 [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111982&oldid=111951 * None1 * (+10) /* Non-alphabetic */ Added [[]] to language list 13:36:27 [[]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111983&oldid=111981 * None1 * (+10) 13:39:14 [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111984&oldid=111975 * None1 * (+82) Added to user page 13:39:40 [[User:None1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111985&oldid=111984 * None1 * (+3) fixed link 13:45:10 [[Chicken]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111986&oldid=79678 * None1 * (+29) See also 13:46:55 [[Talk:I/D machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111987&oldid=111960 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+58) /* I cant see why this is turing complete */ 13:47:51 [[Talk:I/D machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111988&oldid=111987 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+69) /* I cant see why this is turing complete */ 13:53:18 -!- Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 14:08:09 -!- Noisytoot has joined. 14:12:42 -!- perlbot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1 - https://znc.in). 14:12:42 -!- simcop2387 has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1 - https://znc.in). 14:22:16 [[Talk:I/D machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111989&oldid=111988 * Hakerh400 * (+1069) 14:26:40 -!- ais523 has joined. 14:36:27 -!- simcop2387 has joined. 14:39:10 [[Talk:I/D machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111990&oldid=111989 * Pro465 * (+269) /* I cant see why this is turing complete */ request clarification 14:39:27 -!- perlbot has joined. 14:47:34 [[Two-instruction madness!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111991&oldid=111509 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (-1) /* Infinite loop */ 14:55:57 -!- razetime has joined. 15:36:20 [[C-Shop]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111992&oldid=111940 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+68) Categories 15:37:45 [[Scratch is dumb]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111993&oldid=111968 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+107) /* Turing completeness */ categories 15:40:35 -!- SGautam has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 15:42:36 [[Talk:I/D machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111994&oldid=111990 * Hakerh400 * (+1117) 16:22:40 [[Talk:Arithmetic]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111995&oldid=111912 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+3774) /* Can you explain the interpreter a bit */ reply 16:22:40 -!- Guest63 has joined. 16:23:17 -!- Guest63 has quit (Client Quit). 16:53:08 Bah, now the washing machine is dead. :/ 16:56:42 Outlet works (with a phone charger), and fuse in the plug is still good, so I guess it's just kaput. 17:00:50 Manufacturer charges £117/visit post-warranty, even if they can't fix it or if it's "beyond economic repair". Plus replacement parts, of course. 17:04:04 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 17:08:54 It's so annoying when it's probably some moderately small thing to repair (like swapping a board or a transformer or whatever), but the cost is the same order of magnitude as just replacing it. 17:10:37 ouch 17:13:46 how old is the washing machine? 17:16:59 It's about 4.5 years old, with a 2-year warranty period. 17:17:16 Kind of would like these things to last for closer to 10 years rather than 5. 17:23:32 -!- tromp has joined. 17:29:00 yeah, they definitely shouldn't die in 4.5 years 17:29:16 my washing machine is over ten years old now and works fine 17:44:07 -!- impomatic has joined. 17:47:23 Does anyone know how I can get in touch with the creator of Esowar? https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esowar 17:48:17 Oorby used to be a regular here, but they haven't been here in a while 17:48:20 * Orby 17:48:21 I'd like to get a copy of the code. It's no longer online :-( 17:51:57 it shouldn't be that hard to re-implement, it's basically a cross between BF and Core Wars 17:55:35 I know, but would be nice to have the original and any example programs. 17:56:36 you could try using https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Orby to email the email address the wiki has on file 17:56:50 (assuming there is one – I can't check) 18:00:10 `? member 18:00:14 I'm sorry, #esoteric has regulars, not members. Who told you about members? There are definitely no members here, and you wouldn't be allowed to know about them, anyway. 18:00:35 see also re-member, dis-member 18:00:52 (no I don't think those entries exist) 18:03:38 ais523: email sent, thanks 18:04:41 of course I can't guarantee you'll get a reply 18:07:10 I wrote a short program in Ruby. Works fine, but wondered if anyone fluent in Ruby can see any simplifications, bad style or bad practices in it :-) https://corewar.co.uk/optima/optima.rb 18:07:49 ais523: I'm used to not getting replies. I send a lot of emails asking about stuff which has disappeared from the internet. 18:08:06 Even snail mail about pre-internet stuff. 18:16:27 [[Talk:I/D machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111996&oldid=111994 * Ais523 * (+1183) /* I cant see why this is turing complete */ how the data normally ends up getting stored in practice 18:18:34 sometimes these very small TCness constructions require an absurd number of steps before you even reach anything that's recognisable as arithmetic, fortunately the I/D machine isn't too bad in that respect 18:19:01 The Waterfall Model can actually store numbers almost-directly, which is a little surprising but makes it easier to convince people it's TC 18:19:27 ():^ Underload is a lot worse, I think that's a few levels of abstraction away from anything that can be interpreted as an integer 18:22:52 -!- fungot has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 18:24:24 I like Underload :-) 18:24:48 -!- razetime has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:25:37 the minimal TC subset works pretty differently from the full version of the language 18:25:50 if you have * then you have actual numbers 18:47:19 "The Waterfall Model can actually store numbers almost-directly, which is a little surprising but makes it easier to convince people it's TC" => is this your reaction to https://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:I/D_machine#I_cant_see_why_this_is_turing_complete ? 18:48:11 was inspired by it, at least 18:51:30 something I was thinking about semi-recently was tag systems, and if it's possible for them to be efficient 18:51:50 the TCness proofs generally go via Minsky machines, which means an exponential slowdown – I'm not certain whether or not such a slowdown is required 18:55:14 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 19:04:47 -!- Sgeo has joined. 19:07:05 [[Talk:Woodchuck/Implementation]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=111997 * Rdebath * (+281) Broken interpreter :( 19:14:13 ... the TCness proof for Underload, or even underload with *, goes through a two-stack machine. so do the TCness proofs of Consumer Society. only of course you prefer to push the boundaries of TCness with tarpits where that's hard, and that's when you go through Minsky machines. though of course if you're trying to program an existing language like M:tG then that does help. 19:31:53 b_jonas: there are plenty of ways to prove Underload TC – my usual one is to translate SKI combinator calculus into it 19:40:47 [[Simplified Emmental]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111998&oldid=79336 * Rdebath * (+161) Simple ruby interpreter. 19:41:00 -!- impomatic has quit (Quit: https://corewar.co.uk). 19:41:37 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:49:09 ais523: yeah 20:17:04 -!- vyv has joined. 20:22:24 [[Esolang Simply Created To Annoy People Who Dislike Scratch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=111999&oldid=111945 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+87) /* External resources */ Categories 20:23:12 [[Esolang Simply Created To Annoy People Who Dislike Scratch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=112000&oldid=111999 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+34) Class 20:31:21 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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