< 1694736005 24612 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1694736005 25351 :op_4!~op_4@user/op-4/x-9116473 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1694736005 25372 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-91b2-3c77-145d-a6a2.fixed6.kpn.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1694736005 192997 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :*.net *.split < 1694736005 962666 :V!~v@ircpuzzles/2022/april/winner/V QUIT :*.net *.split < 1694736006 18754 :^[!~user@user//x-8473491 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1694736006 406982 :mcfrdy!~mcfrdy@user/mcfrdy QUIT :*.net *.split < 1694736007 232766 :haavard!root@haavard.me QUIT :*.net *.split < 1694736017 289219 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-b4dd-3b44-26d1-e39c.fixed6.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs * :sprout < 1694736080 12141 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN #esolangs lambdabot :Lambda_Robots:_100%_Loyal < 1694736121 430743 :mcfrdy!~mcfrdy@user/mcfrdy JOIN #esolangs mcfrdy :mcfrdy < 1694736128 979125 :haavard!root@haavard.me JOIN #esolangs haavard :Håvard Pettersson < 1694736131 270213 :op_4!~op_4@user/op-4/x-9116473 JOIN #esolangs op_4 :op_4 < 1694736200 537198 :V!~v@ircpuzzles/2022/april/winner/V JOIN #esolangs V :Wie? < 1694736229 48149 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1694741583 399932 :^[!~user@user//x-8473491 JOIN #esolangs ^[ :user < 1694741621 961103 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1694741795 339944 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox > 1694744999 450589 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bedtime14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=115973&oldid=109774 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+25) 10/* Dictionary Sources */ < 1694758064 274102 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-b4dd-3b44-26d1-e39c.fixed6.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1694766987 867125 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1694767037 820436 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1694767115 94484 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :b_jonas < 1694767299 106101 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just found out that the fact that we can multiply medium-long integers or polynomials in less than quadratic time was only discovered in 1960. I'd have thought that this was known since at least the 19th century, and Euler or Gauss would have told you if you asked. How did people even do those big computations like computing fifty digits of pi before that? TAOCP even has a note on this in 4.3.3: < 1694767305 132353 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :“Curiously, this idea does not seem to have been discovered before 1960: None of the ‘calculating prodigies’ who have become famous for their ability to multiple large numbers mentally have been reported to use any such method, although […] would seem to lead to a reasonably easy way to multiply eight-digit numbers in one's head.” < 1694767378 346686 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll probably assume that this is another of those things that Gauss knew but never bothered to write down, and people forgot because before public key cryptography there just weren't many applications. < 1694767399 272851 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh < 1694767474 887299 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :pi was calculated to hundreds of digits in the 19th century, surely some form of fast multiplication would speed that up < 1694767527 85519 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can understand if they didn't do fourier transform multiplication because that's only worth for very large numbers if done by hand, and also understand if they didn't discover the three-way Karatsuba multiplication and just used the two-way split, but no fast multiplication is just amazing < 1694767654 361875 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and yes, fifty years from now people will find this ironic because there's also some very simple ideas that we should have discovered ages ago and could be applying right now < 1694768086 313082 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1694768459 847092 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1694768801 360849 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-856e-7fa3-6435-784e.fixed6.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs * :sprout > 1694769996 103704 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07File talk:Cinnamony.jpg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=115974&oldid=115968 5* 03None1 5* (+110) 10 > 1694770423 960933 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=115975&oldid=115953 5* 03None1 5* (+190) 10/* Delete image containing private information */ < 1694770536 287274 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.12.177 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) > 1694770625 652959 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=115976&oldid=115975 5* 03None1 5* (+49) 10/* Delete image containing private information */ > 1694771511 258884 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Cat on Nuigurumiato.jpg10]]": remove metadata > 1694771573 803380 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Truth Machine... I guess? on Nuigurumiato.jpg10]]": remove metadata > 1694771598 505273 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Hello World on Nuigurumiato.jpg10]]": remove metadata > 1694771634 520660 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Nuigurumiato logo.jpg10]]": remove metadata > 1694771665 388300 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Better truth machine in Nuigurumiato.jpg10]]": remove metadata > 1694771681 36239 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Adder in Nuigurumiato.jpg10]]": remove metadata > 1694771710 563281 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Efghij hello world.jpg10]]": remove metadata > 1694771734 890170 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Truth Machine I guess LBJ.jpg10]]": remove metadata > 1694771818 608469 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Logo of Nuigurumiato except its the whole thing.jpg10]]": remove metadata > 1694771868 432078 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 revision10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10Ais523 changed visibility of a revision on page [[02File:Logo of Nuigurumiato except its the whole thing.jpg10]]: content hidden > 1694771877 470141 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 revision10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10Ais523 changed visibility of a revision on page [[02File:Cat on Nuigurumiato.jpg10]]: content hidden > 1694771884 562411 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 revision10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10Ais523 changed visibility of a revision on page [[02File:Truth Machine... I guess? on Nuigurumiato.jpg10]]: content hidden > 1694771898 904426 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 revision10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10Ais523 changed visibility of a revision on page [[02File:Hello World on Nuigurumiato.jpg10]]: content hidden > 1694771905 769172 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 revision10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10Ais523 changed visibility of a revision on page [[02File:Nuigurumiato logo.jpg10]]: content hidden > 1694771911 822503 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 revision10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10Ais523 changed visibility of a revision on page [[02File:Better truth machine in Nuigurumiato.jpg10]]: content hidden > 1694771917 966184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 revision10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10Ais523 changed visibility of a revision on page [[02File:Adder in Nuigurumiato.jpg10]]: content hidden > 1694771924 131419 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 revision10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10Ais523 changed visibility of a revision on page [[02File:Efghij hello world.jpg10]]: content hidden > 1694771931 787093 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 revision10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10Ais523 changed visibility of a revision on page [[02File:Truth Machine I guess LBJ.jpg10]]: content hidden > 1694772020 27168 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07File talk:Cinnamony.jpg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=115986&oldid=115974 5* 03Ais523 5* (+316) 10metadata removed > 1694772074 358971 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=115987&oldid=115976 5* 03Ais523 5* (+198) 10/* Delete image containing private information */ done < 1694772114 863121 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.12.177 PRIVMSG #esolangs :two minutes after I log on, and I'm already being asked to take admin actions :-) > 1694772206 994460 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07File talk:Cinnamony.jpg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=115988&oldid=115986 5* 03None1 5* (+135) 10/* metadata */ < 1694772217 450807 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.12.177 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, for whatever reason, edits to my user talk page aren't triggering the Orange Bar Of Doom any more? < 1694772223 885504 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.12.177 PRIVMSG #esolangs :do other people have the same problem? > 1694772312 116815 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07File talk:Cinnamony.jpg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=115989&oldid=115988 5* 03None1 5* (+88) 10 > 1694772701 157773 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07MediaWiki:Uploadtext14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=115990 5* 03Ais523 5* (+1573) 10a big warning on the upload form, in the hope of reducing the number of images that get uploaded against policy < 1694773828 162175 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1694773843 7088 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1694773856 517979 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rhokell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=115991&oldid=115897 5* 03Pro465 5* (+1003) 10/* Cat */ add Kolakoski sequence example < 1694773950 638149 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :dunno, I only asked for non-admin actions, which is to recategorize https://esolangs.org/wiki/UT19 as a Language > 1694774011 203099 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Timesplitter14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=115992&oldid=115969 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (-4) 10 < 1694774266 621636 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.12.177 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: I was wondering about appropriate categories for that < 1694774284 897498 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.12.177 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess you could define the language it interprets as a language (although UT19 itself is the interpreter, not the language it interprets) < 1694774322 963093 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.12.177 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but, it is just Brainpocalypse II with a really weird encoding (the tag machine was constructed specifically to be a Brainpocalypse II interpreter, although of course you can give it input that doesn't correspond to a Brainpocalypse II program) < 1694774332 81934 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.12.177 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so Examples seemed like a better fit < 1694774344 829855 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I only claim that the *page* should be categorized into Language, not that UT19 itself is a language. < 1694774360 650975 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the page is not only about the implementation < 1694774378 132904 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.12.177 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure that the page actually does describe the language, though? < 1694774381 545698 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.12.177 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just how the language can be used > 1694774385 813643 PRIVMSG #esolangs 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ZZZzzz… > 1694785452 311406 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:KnightJump14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=116027 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+119) 10Created page with "Holy hell--~~~~" < 1694785829 77116 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.12.177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1694786019 831874 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.12.177 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1694786974 415728 :ais523!~ais523@31.94.12.177 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1694787185 686989 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs SGautam :Siddharth Gautam > 1694787632 946129 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Albanian Laundry Machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116028&oldid=115913 5* 03ALBANIAN-LAUNDROMAT 5* (+31) 10 < 1694787769 867902 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1694789044 158973 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1694789433 108424 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, I just found out yet another crazy thing about English words. so "weary" the adjective meaning exhausted is not pronounced like "wear" the verb that means to have clothes on, and they're likely etymologically unrelated. instead, there's a different adjective "wary" meaning cautious, which is pronounced as if it came from that verb. < 1694789540 300989 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :apparently English just has too many words and that's why there are too many coincidences like this, where two words look like they're related but they're not, and you might never know until they look them up < 1694790003 125842 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1694790078 413436 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure about this, but IIUC this is not one of those cases like "sign" vs "signal", "cycle" vs "bicycle", "finite" vs "infinite" where the words are related in the way you think but the vowels change, instead "weary" is unrelated to "wear" despite what you'd think < 1694790185 783155 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@193.29.105.187 JOIN #esolangs arseniiv :the chaotic arseniiv < 1694790457 168688 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@193.29.105.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anybody have ideas on making a game using plain old text UI? I think it can be a bit easier than using graphics. But I’m not talking about classic text adventures too. Something with puzzley puzzles. But I don’t know what exactly do I want. I return to this distraction time to time and still it had to bear any fruit. So maybe you know anyone with ideas in this vein > 1694790907 722310 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07@everyone14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116029&oldid=103689 5* 03ALBANIAN-LAUNDROMAT 5* (+930) 10/* Basic examples */ added 99 bottles < 1694791143 903613 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1694791722 330189 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: I was thinking about making an impelementation of Niagara the board game with IRC interface. the Niagara game state and game actions are rather small and simple, so this could work without any special support on client side. > 1694792040 271796 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Albanian Laundry Machine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116030&oldid=116028 5* 03ALBANIAN-LAUNDROMAT 5* (+36) 10added example < 1694792123 892125 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@193.29.105.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: oh, I seem to remember you telling about that one! That’s an interesting kind of project too though I was pointed more to a single-player games with narration/investigation < 1694792276 275509 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@193.29.105.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :will take a skim through the rules to decide if I’m going to try my hand at it too < 1694792294 792064 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, you could have the computer play the other players so you can play it single player as well < 1694792420 891795 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@193.29.105.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right < 1694792525 305379 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :as for single player, I think you could make a dungeon explorer game, of the kind that nethack and dcss and adom represent, with a dumb terminal UI. nethack and dcss need a full screen display because they use a map, but we know that you can explore dungeons without a map, the way you do it in card games like Munchkin. some monsters are in your < 1694792525 794264 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :room, and many you add a mechanic where each turn you choose which monsters to run away from, by default one per turn but your speed bonuses and the monsters' speed can avoid that too, and you have to fight the rest. I was wondering if something like that could exist, mostly as a card game, but a text adventure game might be possible too. Kingdom < 1694792526 294905 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :of Loathing might be relevant. > 1694792626 934732 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yo14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116031&oldid=71035 5* 03ALBANIAN-LAUNDROMAT 5* (+46) 10added cats < 1694792720 190508 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1694792886 165112 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Albanian Laundry Machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116032&oldid=116030 5* 03ALBANIAN-LAUNDROMAT 5* (+72) 10 < 1694792917 526133 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@193.29.105.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the rules of Niagara seem quite extensive. I think I’ll try to figure them out at least for myself even if I won’t decide to code anything > 1694793854 143084 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Albanian Laundry Machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116033&oldid=116032 5* 03ALBANIAN-LAUNDROMAT 5* (+524) 10/* Examples */ < 1694794591 835444 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1694795201 78148 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1694795316 693005 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Albanian Laundry Machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116034&oldid=116033 5* 03ALBANIAN-LAUNDROMAT 5* (+85) 10/* Commands */ < 1694796000 501075 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1694796310 926614 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rhokell14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116035&oldid=116021 5* 03Pro465 5* (+29) 10/* text to cons list */ fix infinite loop bug > 1694797098 819867 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rhokell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116036&oldid=116035 5* 03Pro465 5* (+786) 10/* Peano multiplication and exponentiation */ add hello world example > 1694797667 767995 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PINAPL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116037&oldid=68126 5* 03ALBANIAN-LAUNDROMAT 5* (+23) 10added category > 1694797713 665064 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lhooq14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116038&oldid=70827 5* 03ALBANIAN-LAUNDROMAT 5* (+23) 10 > 1694797785 743568 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kinetosis14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116039&oldid=49998 5* 03ALBANIAN-LAUNDROMAT 5* (+23) 10 < 1694798732 87506 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: similar to Niagara, Poker card games can probably be played through an IRC bot > 1694798834 955577 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rhokell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116040&oldid=116036 5* 03Pro465 5* (+377) 10/* Cat */ add reverse cat < 1694798880 892295 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@193.29.105.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: yeah! Though they’d need a randomization method agreed upon to be fair by every player < 1694798978 130057 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: Niagara is similar. it doesn't need random dice rolls, but the players need to make their moves simultaneously without knowing the other players' moves. a trusted IRC bot can do either of these. < 1694799130 849423 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@193.29.105.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: ah yeah parallel moves, now I remember! < 1694799233 83042 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@193.29.105.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :still haven’t read the rules properly. I put it off because I need to read two sources simultaneously, to both be able to read legible text and knowing what names refer to what on the board or among the pieces > 1694799258 970395 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rhokell14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116041&oldid=116040 5* 03Pro465 5* (-12) 10/* Kolakoski sequence */ be less hand-wavy < 1694799317 255516 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, the simultaneous moves are an essential feature in Niagara, just like in rock-paper-scissors or diplomacy < 1694799982 721355 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1694800104 321676 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@193.29.105.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that’s a good game element > 1694800906 271578 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rhokell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116042&oldid=116041 5* 03Pro465 5* (+374) 10/* Difference between variable and function names */ improve explanation < 1694800992 603305 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1694802629 628246 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Jail system makes no sense14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116043&oldid=115926 5* 03Pro465 5* (+195) 10/* Hope is lost */ request explanation < 1694804516 765590 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :There are games with plain old text UI, and one idea I had is to make up Pokemon battle simulator game with text only (which has simultaneous commands, although the order of execution is then decided by priority and speed), although my idea was to make the engine in C with API and then the front-end will be a program calling that API and might be a telnet server, perhaps < 1694804543 690998 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :it sounds like a good idea to use telnet < 1694804610 364656 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Pokemon requires both simultaneous commands without the other player knowing, as well as randomness (for accuracy checks, probability of secondary effects, random damage factor, check for attacks failing due to confusion and paralysis, duration of sleeping, and many other effects are decided at random) < 1694804700 622982 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(And, if you want to be assigned teams at random, then there is that too; although normally players would upload their teams.) < 1694804829 324525 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I suppose a front-end with IRC might be possible too; private messages could be used to send commands. however, in the case of Pokemon, uploading teams might not work as well with IRC, which is not intended for long messages. < 1694805534 829981 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :And, like with the other games you mention, you could also have single-player mode with AI for computer players in Pokemon game too. < 1694805621 316259 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1694806162 613309 :Guest97!~Guest97@host-2-102-80-174.as13285.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Guest97 < 1694806354 290524 :Guest97!~Guest97@host-2-102-80-174.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1694807215 357923 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :trusted bot/server of some kind is easiest, but you can even do things like randomness or simultanous moves without it. e.g. by making players post hashes for which they then reveal the input < 1694807813 802342 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: Pokemon teams aren't long messages, are they? I think they have only a small amount of data < 1694807841 278028 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I'm not sure what you'd upload from, unless it's another IRC bot that plays pokémon < 1694808886 40441 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1694809013 667209 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1694809087 501030 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :You could represent a Pokemon team in a compact form. The data needed (although it can vary depending on which generation and other rule options you are using) is: species (and form if applicable), gender, hold item, moves (there are four), IVs (six), EVs (six), and I think in the newest generations there is also Tera types. And then, there are six pokemons in each team, so this data occurs six times. < 1694809113 210402 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :O, I forgot nature. < 1694809344 924677 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :And PP Up, although I think that is rarely specified, as far as I know. And also level. There is also nicknames, although it might be better to not use them in order to avoid a problem with being confusing and the wrong one, and some players might also want to specify colours of pokeballs although that is not important in a text-only interface anyways. < 1694809729 107993 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you are playing that items other than hold items are allowed, then you might have to specify which ones (depending on the rule options), and if you play non-Cleric-Clause then also will need current HP, current PP, and non-volatile status. Some rule variants might even require additional details, possibly. < 1694809769 954139 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I suppose, we can try and let's see if it will fit into a single IRC message. < 1694810623 637697 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :What is the longest names for moves, items, species, forms, etc (in ASCII only)? For the species you can also use pokedex numbers though, which is shorter < 1694810697 258604 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1694811071 122653 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait, there are six IVs? I thought there were fewer per pokemon < 1694811094 663125 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :don't you need the level or XP too? < 1694811123 361011 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :In generation I and II there are only four (that you can set by yourself; HP is calculated automatically). In later generations all six are independent. < 1694811134 356972 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see < 1694811154 69368 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah yes, you mentioned level already < 1694811157 39281 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did specify level above (it is one that I forgot in my first message so I added it in the next one), but XP is not needed since it has no effect. < 1694811212 154597 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it needn't be a single message just a few messages < 1694811263 409636 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, I like Niagara specifically beacuse the game state is so small, even if you represent it in a human-readable way < 1694811425 578819 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It is not a game I know the rules of < 1694811793 964948 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@193.29.105.187 QUIT :Quit: gone too far < 1694814043 861987 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1694816205 406030 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.29.45 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I like this Oxford dictionary but it's so annoying that it doesn't give pronunciation except for very few words so I have to look that up separately. < 1694819635 514665 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can you make up any Hero Hearts levels? > 1694819797 863815 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esketit14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116044&oldid=56604 5* 03ALBANIAN-LAUNDROMAT 5* (+23) 10added category > 1694819812 297372 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tetrastack14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116045&oldid=116025 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+168) 10Fix TC proof > 1694819884 811725 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tetrastack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116046&oldid=116045 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (-2) 10/* Computational class */ > 1694819885 101750 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ErrorFree14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116047&oldid=114214 5* 03ALBANIAN-LAUNDROMAT 5* (+23) 10 > 1694819905 172121 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Eod14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116048&oldid=109957 5* 03ALBANIAN-LAUNDROMAT 5* (+23) 10 > 1694820083 396141 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07For The Worthy14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116049&oldid=98604 5* 03ALBANIAN-LAUNDROMAT 5* (+23) 10 > 1694820752 699197 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07IThinkMyComputerIsDrunk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116050&oldid=109634 5* 03ALBANIAN-LAUNDROMAT 5* (+23) 10 > 1694821018 950258 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Unnamed14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=116051&oldid=101396 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+2) 10Categories < 1694822243 995400 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1694822268 164860 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord