< 1696553376 994441 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1696553412 326010 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord > 1696556027 675370 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07COVID-1914]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117497&oldid=84059 5* 03Lilchiky 5* (-7) 10Missing some formatting < 1696556127 394693 :razetime!~razetime@sd202148.hung.ab.nthu.edu.tw JOIN #esolangs razetime :realname > 1696557362 821998 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bawkbawk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117498&oldid=117477 5* 03Lilchiky 5* (-1) 10/* 99 bottles of beer */ < 1696558375 904304 :Wryl-o-the-wisp!sid553797@user/wryl JOIN #esolangs Wryl :Wryl > 1696559232 956031 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bawkbawk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117499&oldid=117498 5* 03Lilchiky 5* (+4) 10/* 99 bottles of beer */ +2 > 1696559513 9281 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0799 bottles of beer14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117500&oldid=117284 5* 03Lilchiky 5* (+1125) 10/* List of implementations */ Adding [[Bawkbawk]] implementation < 1696559716 175096 :Wryl-o-the-wisp!sid553797@user/wryl QUIT : > 1696559718 744499 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Bawkbawk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117501&oldid=116799 5* 03Lilchiky 5* (+9) 10 > 1696559845 242969 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bawkbawk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117502&oldid=117499 5* 03Lilchiky 5* (+23) 10/* Memory */ > 1696559941 752359 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bawkbawk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117503&oldid=117502 5* 03Lilchiky 5* (+73) 10/* 99 bottles of beer */ aha > 1696559999 805104 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bawkbawk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117504&oldid=117503 5* 03Lilchiky 5* (-37) 10/* Text to Bawkbawk */ eehe > 1696560354 361667 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bawkbawk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117505&oldid=117504 5* 03Lilchiky 5* (+10) 10/* invisible */ visible < 1696569608 428296 :razetime!~razetime@sd202148.hung.ab.nthu.edu.tw QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1696572444 339108 :razetime!~razetime@v385-gateway.cs.nthu.edu.tw JOIN #esolangs razetime :realname > 1696573597 884444 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07For The Worthy14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117506&oldid=116049 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+25) 10Category > 1696573672 371994 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Dropsort14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117507&oldid=44547 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+23) 10Category < 1696574723 449519 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 JOIN #esolangs arseniiv :the chaotic arseniiv < 1696577006 270654 :Koen!~Koen@2a01:e34:ec7c:30:3ce4:2408:dce0:30b3 JOIN #esolangs * :Koen < 1696579026 646363 :Cale!~cale@cpe80d04ade0a03-cm80d04ade0a01.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1696580036 814151 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-945d-e8f0-805c-53d5.fixed6.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1696580531 613463 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net JOIN #esolangs cpressey :[https://web.libera.chat] cpressey < 1696580919 948446 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs : You can combine distributions in various ways, but you have to keep normalizing the result so that it sums to 1, and that is a buzzkill, algebraically speaking <------ I had a thought late last night that make me seriously question this.  Of course, I don't know if I should trust that thought.  But I need to investigate this again. < 1696581146 72763 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1696581715 40776 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a448-3a80-1-a8f4-d9c9-588-489b.fixed6.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs sprout :sprout < 1696582139 739399 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Instead of making sure the result sums to 1 always, can we not let the result sum to whatever (positive) value n, and divide by n only when necessary?  And our operations that combine probabilities would also have to combine n's. < 1696582157 646082 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/result/distribution/ < 1696582747 884575 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :The two operations I care about are AND or OR, naturally.  For AND you multiply probabilities.  To extend it to this should be easy: it's just multiplying fractions instead.  Really, just another way of looking at the numbers you're multiplying. < 1696582776 186445 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :OR is a little more involved, I need to go look it up < 1696582908 248079 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :P(A∪B)=P(A)+P(B)−P(A∩B) < 1696583046 199264 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That AND assumes the probabilities are independent < 1696583063 491725 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm happy with getting something that works with only independent probabilities < 1696583097 508611 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK < 1696583109 895029 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1696583871 59482 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :It sort of came from stuff I was doing with Markov chains, and every transition in a Markov chain is independent. < 1696584655 291210 :razetime!~razetime@v385-gateway.cs.nthu.edu.tw QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1696585525 942652 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK, I see where my thinking is wrong < 1696585899 104446 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :It doesn't matter whether you normalize the probability to 1 or whether you maintain it as a ratio.  It doesn't change the fact that there are a number of laws that multiplication of ratios doesn't obey. < 1696586456 478338 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :If we arbitrarily say that AND is min and OR is max, then we get more laws, and we can form a distributive lattice, even.  But these operations don't correspond with anything in practice. < 1696586509 746103 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I think that is not a showstopper for my purposes.  It would be nice if they corresponded with something in practice.  But it's not critical.  I'd rather have the lattice < 1696587202 812945 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :This does raise the question for me, of what does it mean intuitively, to apply min and max to probabilities, which is a bit vexing.  But I can try to ignore that < 1696587383 254174 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds) < 1696587757 558754 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, OK, it means "as least as probable that", doesn't it?  Flipping a coin and getting heads is as least as probable as rolling a 1 on a 6-sided die.  min() and max() are, like, picking one of the two events based on a ranking, rather than combining them to form a new probability. < 1696587878 125494 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/a ranking/their rank according to their probabilities/ < 1696588975 510464 :razetime!~razetime@sd202148.hung.ab.nthu.edu.tw JOIN #esolangs razetime :realname < 1696589939 123744 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown > 1696590571 728928 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bawkbawk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117508&oldid=117505 5* 03Lilchiky 5* (+0) 10moving `see also` to the bottom < 1696590622 616433 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Europe2048 < 1696590650 34142 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi everyone! If I made yet another IPA esolang, will it be cell-based or stack-based? < 1696590707 233639 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Should it be turing-complete or not? < 1696590720 281435 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Will it be based on another esolang or not? < 1696591162 555499 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Europe2048: In this context, soes IPA mean International Phonetic Alphabet? < 1696591168 835082 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :*does < 1696591173 547431 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes. < 1696591266 979680 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Europe2048: Thanks.  Re your questions, I don't know if I can give you any answer besides "Follow your heart". < 1696591312 450849 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :cpressey: So you can't give me an answer for yourself? < 1696591416 666829 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, I've never made an esolang based on IPA, so I can't say.  I did design one where every program element was pronounceable, years and years ago, but I shelved it.  I don't clearly remember what its semantics were, I'd have to dig it up and puzzle over it. < 1696591438 541819 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Some other people made IPA esolangs too! < 1696591480 382823 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Actually, I believe one of the attributes of standardized FORTH was that every symbol had a standardized pronounciation < 1696591526 383506 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :You don't want some programmers saying "dupp" and others saying "doop", do you.  Makes debugging over the telephone harder than it needs to be. < 1696591609 765428 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :To fix that problem, I'll make a sound for each example program. < 1696591830 432302 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, I'll also make sure every program is pronouncable in my esolang. < 1696593927 241045 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyone?! < 1696594190 928098 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :doop dee dup > 1696595904 682377 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Template:Quote14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=117509 5* 03Lilchiky 5* (+32) 10shortcut4quotes > 1696596172 299028 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bawkbawk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117510&oldid=117508 5* 03Lilchiky 5* (+757) 10/* Implementations */ a big discovery  > 1696596218 213525 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bawkbawk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117511&oldid=117510 5* 03Lilchiky 5* (-14) 10fixiy > 1696596376 14774 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bawkbawk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117512&oldid=117511 5* 03Lilchiky 5* (-9) 10small grammar mistake < 1696596481 389690 :Koen!~Koen@2a01:e34:ec7c:30:3ce4:2408:dce0:30b3 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1696597594 822564 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hello, int-e! < 1696598046 163574 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :ANYONE?!!?!?!??!? < 1696598333 471394 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Are cell-based and stack-based the only two options? < 1696599181 717189 :razetime!~razetime@sd202148.hung.ab.nthu.edu.tw PRIVMSG #esolangs :not really. < 1696599194 964484 :razetime!~razetime@sd202148.hung.ab.nthu.edu.tw PRIVMSG #esolangs :you'll find a lot more if you try a little bit. > 1696599221 814370 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None1/InDev14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117513&oldid=117467 5* 03None1 5* (+324) 10/* Commands */ < 1696599266 833260 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi razetime, should I make an IPA esolang? > 1696599356 788132 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None1/InDev14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117514&oldid=117513 5* 03None1 5* (+110) 10/* Commands */ > 1696599418 658993 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None1/InDev14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117515&oldid=117514 5* 03None1 5* (+56) 10/* Commands */ < 1696599576 728136 :razetime!~razetime@sd202148.hung.ab.nthu.edu.tw PRIVMSG #esolangs :you should make whatever you like. < 1696599618 872324 :razetime!~razetime@sd202148.hung.ab.nthu.edu.tw PRIVMSG #esolangs :it doesn't matter if it's unoriginal. we have a lot to go around. just make something. > 1696600351 589659 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None1/InDev14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117516&oldid=117515 5* 03None1 5* (+643) 10/* Commands */ Add examples > 1696600371 604638 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None1/InDev14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117517&oldid=117516 5* 03None1 5* (+1) 10/* Examples */ Close open brackets > 1696600383 6650 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None1/InDev14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117518&oldid=117517 5* 03None1 5* (+1) 10/* =Hello World */ > 1696600428 502446 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None1/InDev14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117519&oldid=117518 5* 03None1 5* (+105) 10 > 1696600463 911645 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None1/InDev14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117520&oldid=117519 5* 03None1 5* (-1574) 10Moved out of sandbox > 1696600517 205192 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wsad14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=117521 5* 03None1 5* (+1712) 10Created page with " {{bf}} wsad is a [[brainfuck]] derivative, that uses only 4 characters. ==Commands== Every command consists of two characters in {{cd|w, s, a, d}}, for example: {{cd|wa}} is equivalent to the {{cd|+}} command in brainfuck. It is case insensitive. {|class=wikitable ! First < 1696600571 307258 :Koen!~Koen@2a01:e34:ec7c:30:454e:d2c5:88f4:a9ff JOIN #esolangs * :Koen > 1696600573 102079 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117522&oldid=117330 5* 03None1 5* (+11) 10/* W */ > 1696600657 813179 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WCDA14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117523&oldid=76373 5* 03None1 5* (+23) 10 > 1696600794 69216 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117524&oldid=117184 5* 03None1 5* (+76) 10/* My Esolangs */ < 1696600835 250932 :Koen!~Koen@2a01:e34:ec7c:30:454e:d2c5:88f4:a9ff QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1696601255 300672 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[074 esolang + Python polyglot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117525&oldid=117073 5* 03None1 5* (+764) 10/* External Resources */ > 1696601270 347300 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[074 esolang + Python polyglot14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117526&oldid=117525 5* 03None1 5* (-1) 10/* External Resources */ > 1696601551 889791 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None1/InDev14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117527&oldid=117520 5* 03None1 5* (+302) 10 > 1696601709 238409 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wsad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117528&oldid=117521 5* 03None1 5* (+13) 10 > 1696601757 434509 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wsad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117529&oldid=117528 5* 03None1 5* (+14) 10 > 1696601797 900370 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wsad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117530&oldid=117529 5* 03None1 5* (+2) 10 > 1696601868 815967 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:XKCD Random Number14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117531&oldid=116446 5* 03None1 5* (+27) 10/* WeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeBasic */ > 1696602025 692236 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:XKCD Random Number14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117532&oldid=117531 5* 03None1 5* (+8666) 10/* JSFuck */ > 1696602075 886315 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:XKCD Random Number14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117533&oldid=117532 5* 03None1 5* (+45) 10/* JSFuck */ < 1696603898 480609 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1696604741 623041 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net JOIN #esolangs cpressey :[https://web.libera.chat] cpressey < 1696605223 203117 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1696606154 593328 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1696606523 754199 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1696607175 617265 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Europe2048 < 1696607203 266433 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi everyone! < 1696607320 613452 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net JOIN #esolangs cpressey :[https://web.libera.chat] cpressey < 1696607459 267775 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1696607846 282147 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello < 1696608289 316855 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi river! < 1696608295 121309 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Should I make an IPA esolang? < 1696608299 221614 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes < 1696608317 519325 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Would it be cell-based, stack-based, or something else? < 1696608944 612914 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net JOIN #esolangs cpressey :[https://web.libera.chat] cpressey < 1696609630 477701 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1696609724 906103 :razetime!~razetime@sd202148.hung.ab.nthu.edu.tw QUIT :Quit: Go back to your cringe 9 to 5. I'll be gaming. < 1696610224 270279 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 JOIN #esolangs arseniiv :the chaotic arseniiv < 1696610282 421113 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a03:2260:300c:400:61bd:fe2e:1f3c:b90a JOIN #esolangs Thelie :Thelie < 1696611344 541480 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: finally got my hands on Tres Undos, some funny moments there < 1696611504 591280 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi, arseniiv! < 1696611523 961830 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :If I made an IPA esolang, would it be cell based, stack based, or something else? < 1696611585 975603 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Europe2048: well if that’s IPA, it won’t be of any justice to not make it phonetics-based in some way. Stacks and tapes are too mundane for that < 1696611627 505603 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :So you're saying it should be cell-based? < 1696611644 107018 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so one’d better investigate computational capabilities of human articulatory system, of course, why should it be cell-based < 1696611694 201451 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :So you're saying it should be stack-based? < 1696611703 666477 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :creaky voice can be a source of computational units, then oral-nasal distinction can be used for branching < 1696611809 22177 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Europe2048: no it shouldn’t. What makes you believe that < 1696611811 486001 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I’m just curious a bit how it all works) < 1696611848 1974 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, lateral consonants are of utmost importance, moreso lateral affricates < 1696611850 707105 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Just say cell- or stack-based already! I can't understand! < 1696611895 933690 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Europe2048: I’m not keen on either, why should it be cell- or stack-based when it can be so much more, like monkey paw based < 1696611929 33982 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or Yog-Sothoth based, I probably minced the name but that’s for the best < 1696611940 584683 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the possibilities! < 1696611962 144888 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Should it be based on conlangs or something? < 1696612037 488614 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :even better, Yog-Sothoth over a field of characteristic two. Can’t do spicier than that, char 2 makes all sorts of ridiculous nuisances < 1696612042 829420 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or Ithkuil, yes < 1696612048 48932 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(that’s a conlang) < 1696612064 656859 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I’d be very pleased to look at an esolang which does Ithkuil a justice < 1696612135 304510 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK, anyways, tell me what should it be based on in particular. < 1696612290 609770 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ithkuil, bonus points for a quine which translates from Ithkuil as “this program is licenced under LGPL, MIT and CC0 and is a valid excuse to learn some Lojban in turn” < 1696612313 664456 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but each valid program should be a valid Ithkuil sentence < 1696612334 807286 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :even more bonus points: each Ithkuil sentence is a valid program < 1696612342 245279 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :How can I do that? Ithkuil is literally the hardest language to learn! < 1696612358 682737 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that’s where the challenge lies! < 1696612365 734386 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe not the hardest though < 1696612445 975051 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ithkuil 3 should be simpler than Өłð Ɨṱħķüįɫ < 1696612470 982128 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(which should not be mentioned by its true name either) < 1696612496 368023 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Are there digraphs in New Ithkuil (2023) < 1696612498 187815 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :? < 1696612539 134954 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Europe2048: don’t know, sorry < 1696612594 926573 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :I found out that no. < 1696612708 794334 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyways, do you mean to make an Ithkuil language? < 1696614082 51319 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Europe2048: using valid Ithkuil grammar but endowing it with computational semantics, hopefully somehow related to what the original constructs mean < 1696614139 112665 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :"valid Ithkuil grammar" How the heck would I do that? > 1696614472 626040 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rotary14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117534&oldid=43218 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+1380) 10Add examples and category, link to interpreter < 1696614475 296528 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1696616643 271213 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1696617289 371822 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.149.238.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN #esolangs arseniiv :the chaotic arseniiv < 1696617500 271770 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@188.64.15.98 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1696617571 911909 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.149.238.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Client Quit < 1696617588 614728 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Europe2048 > 1696622423 355967 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bukkake14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117535&oldid=46434 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+187) 10Categories > 1696622435 609962 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bukkake14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117536&oldid=117535 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+1) 10/* Further reading */ Category < 1696622756 328872 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1696624448 627505 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Europe2048 < 1696624449 993025 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.28.172 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Should it be based on conlangs or something?" => I would say no, there are already too many of those < 1696624474 659646 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi b_jonas! < 1696624491 618276 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Should I make an IPA esolang? If yes, would it be cell-based or stack-based? < 1696624665 605116 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.28.172 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure, but probably only if you're at least drinking age < 1696624691 273491 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm 9... < 1696624701 221848 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I can pronounce many IPA sounds. < 1696624826 595172 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.28.172 PRIVMSG #esolangs :do not brew ale if you are younger than drinking age. it could get you into trouble. < 1696624867 861330 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :"brew ale" What's ale? < 1696624909 235686 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.28.172 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ale is alcoholic drink with low alcohol content, provided it's not brewed from grapes (because then it's called wine) or cereal (because then it's called beer instead) < 1696624932 221202 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Don't you know that IPA is International Phonetic Alphabet? < 1696624947 966624 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.28.172 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or honey (because then it's called mead instead). English is weird, why do you need so many names for spirits? < 1696624958 48681 :b_jonas!~x@89.134.28.172 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Europe2048: no, IPA is a type of ales < 1696624988 342271 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's your opinion. < 1696625006 774806 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, IPA for International Phonetic Alphabet is more widely used. < 1696625020 424964 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :I meant this definition when I said "I can pronounce many IPA sounds.". < 1696626147 572255 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1696626313 613453 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net JOIN #esolangs cpressey :[https://web.libera.chat] cpressey < 1696628330 613607 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Europe2048 < 1696628336 880462 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi everyone! < 1696629171 818507 :Europe2048!~Europe204@fableness-hydrant.volia.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1696629709 440999 :sam!~sam@lullcec.org JOIN #esolangs * :sam < 1696629770 281765 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1696630685 601040 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03MagmaMcFry 5* 10New user account > 1696630908 540872 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117537&oldid=117401 5* 03MagmaMcFry 5* (+130) 10o/ < 1696630949 903167 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-10-151-176.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1696631001 82192 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117538&oldid=117537 5* 03MagmaMcFry 5* (+69) 10uh i copied the nowiki tags by accident < 1696632611 272132 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a03:2260:300c:400:61bd:fe2e:1f3c:b90a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1696635921 880383 :razetime!~razetime@sd202148.hung.ab.nthu.edu.tw JOIN #esolangs razetime :realname < 1696636669 965814 :razetime!~razetime@sd202148.hung.ab.nthu.edu.tw QUIT :Quit: Go back to your cringe 9 to 5. I'll be gaming.