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[https://balt.sno.mba check out my wwebed siute :]]" 02:37:04 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:40:25 -!- Sgeo has joined. 03:00:00 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: I seem to have stopped.). 03:01:13 -!- Taneb has joined. 03:02:03 [[Lasagna]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=117626 * Baltdev * (+9940) Created page with "=== Note === This article is copied from the [https://github.com/balt-dev/Lasagna GitHub repository]. = Lasagna = Lasagna is an esoteric programming language defined by an unsized LIFO stack (hence the name, stack) of bytes, inspired by assembly languages. == Basic 03:02:34 [[Lasagna]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117627&oldid=117626 * Baltdev * (-168) 06:02:38 -!- Koen has joined. 06:07:06 -!- raz3time has joined. 06:12:24 Apparently FTP over NCP supported non-8-bit-bytes 06:12:33 Or at least that's my takeaway from " FTP: 06:12:33 This is specified in RFC 765. It is very similar to the FTP 06:12:33 used with the NCP. The primary differences are that in 06:12:33 addition to the changes for Telnet, that the data channel is 06:12:33 limited to 8-bit bytes so FTP features to use other 06:12:34 transmission byte sizes are eliminated." 06:12:37 https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc0801.txt 06:30:32 -!- tromp has joined. 07:23:18 -!- cpressey has joined. 07:28:50 Sgeo: I see that references RFC 765 -- I just looked at https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc0765.txt and it has a few interesting things to say about "byte size".  In one place it mentions "32-bit bytes". 07:29:40 "Byte" was once a more flexible concept than it is today.  This also explains the prevalence of the word "octet" in some RFCs. 07:31:22 9 bit bytes were popular for a while too 07:31:52 The C standard has a concept of a smallest addressable unit (tied to the size of a char), do *they* call that a byte? 07:33:25 zzo38: I think I've seen a spreadsheet have a locked area of some kind inside it, so that e.g. deleting a row in that area only affected that area and not the rest of the spreadsheet.  I'm not sure if there could be more than one of these in the spreadsheet at any given time though. 07:35:15 And your idea seems to go beyond just that 07:39:26 Is there an RFC for NCP FTP? 07:40:20 https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc959/2_Overview.html 07:41:11 I should sleep 07:56:39 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:03:06 -!- arseniiv has joined. 08:03:12 how did they squeeze that extra bit in? must have been very tight 08:04:22 well, computers were bigger then ;-) 08:04:35 hehe 08:09:18 -!- Koen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:15:58 river: they configured their RAM and peripherials to not use error correction bits, and use those as extra value bits instead. 08:39:18 [[Talk:List of quines]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117628&oldid=87216 * PlaceReporter99 * (+92) 08:57:17 [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117629&oldid=117610 * PlaceReporter99 * (+20) 09:01:56 [[List of quines]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117630&oldid=115435 * PlaceReporter99 * (+176) /* Prelude */ 09:02:20 [[List of quines]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117631&oldid=117630 * PlaceReporter99 * (+12) /* Python (Python 3) */ 09:13:19 -!- __monty__ has joined. 09:20:22 -!- raz3time has quit (Quit: Go back to your cringe 9 to 5. I'll be gaming.). 09:56:22 -!- Koen has joined. 10:23:26 -!- Thelie has joined. 10:49:43 Moin 10:55:45 [[List of quines]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117632&oldid=117631 * None1 * (+143) /* Python (Python 3) */ Added a much simpler one 11:32:37 There are constants that aren't literals, but are there literals that aren't constants? 11:34:28 -!- craigo has joined. 11:38:12 what about strings with interpolation in languages that allow it? 11:53:26 i think that you can redefine literals in python 11:53:28 so 0 = 3 11:56:14 <__monty__> Only for the first 256(?) or so integers because those are cached somehow or something. 11:58:09 [citation needed] 11:58:20 [[Esolang talk:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117633&oldid=109336 * PlaceReporter99 * (+143) 11:58:44 (I imagine it's not an assignment but some direct poking into memory instead) 11:59:52 You used to (in Python 2.x) be able to assign a different value to the boolean constants True and False 12:00:46 my brain parsed "assignment" there as in a task/exercise 12:01:09 which I mean, "find a way to redefine integer literals in python" might make a fun one 12:01:11 For a non-constant literal I was thinking something like NOW as in "start_time = NOW;" 12:01:26 __LINENO__? :p 12:01:29 (ok it 12:01:32 's a macro) 12:01:55 (it's also __LINE__, but anyway) 12:03:24 "It's a macro" versus "it's a literal" is largely a matter of narrative... I think I'm going to consider __LINE__ the current reigning champion for this category 12:04:02 [[Talk:Palindrome]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117634&oldid=20090 * None1 * (+112) 12:04:49 I think "foo ${bar}" is the most "syntactic literal but its value is dynamic" in my book 12:08:03 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:10:56 [[Talk:BF+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117635&oldid=113591 * None1 * (+182) /* palindrome */ new section 12:36:51 [[Lasagna]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=117636&oldid=117627 * None1 * (+23) 13:27:13 -!- cpressey has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 13:34:54 -!- cpressey has joined. 14:16:25 -!- Koen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:16:46 -!- Koen has joined. 14:28:09 -!- Thelie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:56:48 [[Brainappend]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=117637 * Joaozin003 * (+979) Created page with "'''Brainappend''' is a [[brainfuck]] derivative by [[User:Joaozin003]], partly inspired by [[Vague]] where the braces ([ and ]) append their contents to the source code (including themselves). This makes looping much more difficult. == I 16:05:08 -!- cpressey has quit (Quit: Client closed). 16:32:44 -!- Thelie has joined. 16:37:12 -!- SGautam has joined. 16:37:45 -!- b_jonas has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:45:28 cpressey: The way I had meant though, is that, in my example, you can delete a data row from the zone row X, in which case the zone cells X:Y and X:TY now have one less data row, without leaving any gap, and likewise you can add new rows, and this won't damage any calculations. 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