> 1701993621 793686 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Pimpimling14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120285&oldid=120284 5* 03Pimpimling 5* (+38) 10 < 1701994037 423084 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that isn't a problem, since stdin is for input and not for output so you are not supposed to truncate it (and it might be a error instead of doing anything). Having a truncate function for FILE objects is mainly useful with open_memstream and fopencookie (although then will need another function such as fopencookie2 so that you can define the truncate function). < 1701994342 691995 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :However, the operating system design that I was working on, does require different file access functions (although the kernel doesn't need them since it uses proxy capabilities instead, and user programs can also use proxy capabilities; what I mean is file access functions in the standard library which will call the capabilities), since the C functions, POSIX functions, etc are insufficient. < 1701994433 15874 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(There are no file names, files can have multiple numbered streams, file streams can contain both bytes and hard links to other files, and multiple objects can be locked at once, and transactions can be set involving multiple objects at once, etc) < 1701994647 139503 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, I wonder how many platfomts support reading from stderr when programs are run in the most normal way? < 1701994681 418283 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(on Linux/UNIX, when stderr is a terminal (and it frequently is), you can read from it to read from that terminal even if input is redirected) < 1701994858 108448 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know. Some might have separate functions/ports that only allow reading or only writing, so it is not possible. > 1701995884 615739 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120286&oldid=120276 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+17) 10/* C */ add > 1702001515 843677 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gregorovich14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120287&oldid=79137 5* 03Pimpimling 5* (-1) 10Punctuation fix (not code-related) < 1702001947 49600 :wpa!uid568065@id-568065.helmsley.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1702003806 950508 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: sorry about my connection < 1702003914 261383 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) > 1702008598 241187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BF Lite14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120288&oldid=96945 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+104) 10Categories > 1702009945 214827 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Next14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120289&oldid=120275 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+87) 10 < 1702011039 115366 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1702013705 737498 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1702019674 268255 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds > 1702021082 719049 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07(top, height)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120290&oldid=109082 5* 03Squidmanescape 5* (+611) 10/* Finite-State Automaton */ < 1702021722 160855 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1702023566 143060 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120291&oldid=120286 5* 03Azwid 5* (+15) 10/* C */ < 1702025607 96266 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1702025614 388097 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1702025895 970612 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1702025918 3640 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in > 1702028155 614200 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07HsifdaeD14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120292&oldid=116834 5* 03Squidmanescape 5* (+0) 10Fixed spelling error (hsifdeaD -> hsifdaeD) < 1702029553 660174 :Koen_!~Koen@2a01:e34:ec7c:30:b0fd:4c27:27ee:834b JOIN #esolangs * :Koen < 1702030321 167170 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1702030666 583396 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1702030669 880810 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1702030848 635373 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1702031736 103801 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1702032082 429237 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1702032157 739369 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :re https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2023-03.html#lPH race condition in displaying the next stop or stops on displays in public transport vehicles.  the race condition isn't solved, but they did patch a workaround for the most confusing case. the displays M4 metro used to change to the next station at the start of the door close warning, < 1702032158 240116 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :which was way too early. now it changes to the next station a few seconds after the train starts to roll instead. < 1702032229 38894 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also on the M4 metro, in at least one station the led strip embedded in the platform now has two different colors of blue in different sections, presumably because they replaced some of the sections of the led strip that had too many burnt out leds. < 1702032727 822242 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: re stderr readable, old versions of the Linux kernel like 2.4.0 have a funny sequence in init/main.c:init which says `(void) open("/dev/console",O_RDWR,0); (void) dup(0); (void) dup(0); return execve(shell, argv, envp_init);` (with no error handling) opening the console for the init process and duping it to the next two file descriptors. < 1702032728 323107 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :this has been refactored since so it looks much less hilarious in modern kernel sources. < 1702032802 900354 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1702033046 95319 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course that isn't the typical case for how a process gets its standard handles, instead I think getty opens the terminal that init tells it to open, with separate getty processes for each virtual terminal, or these days an X terminal emulator or ssh or similar gives the client side of the pty for the process it spawns > 1702033344 351712 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Alx 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Luapplogo.jpg10]]" > 1702034245 353052 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RightSlash14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=120294 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+866) 10Created page with "'''RightSlash''' is esolang by [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]] with left-infinite tape with cells with values 0-F. [[User:ChuckEsoteric08]] forgot to save .txt file so not much specification is known. What is known that it has no increment/decrement commands, it use > 1702034823 434926 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RightSlash14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120295&oldid=120294 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+253) 10 < 1702038165 896092 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :HackEso's init.c has https://github.com/fis/umlbox/blob/master/init.c#L73-L76 -- not quite sure why it *doesn't* do that trick of making them share an open file description. < 1702038489 288009 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1702040040 723042 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1702042368 691071 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.213.251.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl JOIN #esolangs FreeFull :FreeFull > 1702043095 53236 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lua++14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=120296 5* 03Alx 5* (+13602) 10Created page with "= Lua++ = [[File:Luapplogo.jpg|frameless]] Lua++: The (in-development) Lua 5.1 superset, made by [[User: Alx]]. {| class="wikitable" ! Associated file extensions || Descriptor |- | .lpp || The non-compiled extension type recognised by the Lua++ interpreter. | > 1702043188 727689 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Alx14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120297&oldid=118058 5* 03Alx 5* (+21) 10 > 1702043518 307012 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BracketOnly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120298&oldid=120269 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+2) 10/* Never Gonna Give You Up */ Corrected grammar. < 1702044448 880739 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1702045091 605482 :Guest57!~Guest57@bras-base-toroon4524w-grc-31-70-27-119-39.dsl.bell.ca JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Guest57 < 1702045102 727553 :Guest57!~Guest57@bras-base-toroon4524w-grc-31-70-27-119-39.dsl.bell.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi < 1702045118 778831 :Guest57!~Guest57@bras-base-toroon4524w-grc-31-70-27-119-39.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Client Quit > 1702048079 699618 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07StackBit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120299&oldid=109386 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+143) 10/* StackBit minimalisation */ < 1702050024 417642 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown > 1702054716 923566 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UBLANG14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120300&oldid=102779 5* 03ChuckEsoteric08 5* (+442) 10 > 1702055866 516391 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120301&oldid=120209 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (+61) 10 > 1702056037 592518 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120302&oldid=120301 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (+38) 10 > 1702056522 411022 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120303&oldid=120302 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (+151) 10 > 1702056533 425778 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120304&oldid=120303 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (-1) 10 > 1702056581 111981 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120305&oldid=120304 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (+8) 10 > 1702056596 317936 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120306&oldid=120305 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (-6) 10 < 1702057817 397331 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname > 1702058670 479392 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120307&oldid=120306 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (+7) 10 > 1702058691 988882 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120308&oldid=120307 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (+6) 10 > 1702058709 77031 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120309&oldid=120308 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (-2) 10 > 1702058719 626245 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120310&oldid=120309 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (-8) 10 > 1702058768 331070 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120311&oldid=120310 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (-5) 10 < 1702060157 808924 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1702060616 151979 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1702060682 95931 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org JOIN #esolangs hooloovoo :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1702061286 206134 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1702061729 707837 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1702062047 266826 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse > 1702062065 389030 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Quell14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=120312 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (+68) 10Created page with "Truth Machine: 
INP 0 loop:     OUT 0 JNZ 0 loop JEQ 0 1 loop"
> 1702062092 115848 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Quell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120313&oldid=120312 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (+37) 10
> 1702062152 292056 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Quell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120314&oldid=120313 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (-2) 10
> 1702062165 531449 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Quell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120315&oldid=120314 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (-1) 10
> 1702062178 571976 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Quell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120316&oldid=120315 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (-2) 10
> 1702062198 129480 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Quell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120317&oldid=120316 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (-12) 10
> 1702062331 504455 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120318&oldid=120311 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (+467) 10
> 1702062341 324752 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120319&oldid=120318 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (+9) 10
> 1702062794 886702 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120320&oldid=120319 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (+332) 10
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> 1702063501 706781 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120322&oldid=120321 5* 03Infinitehexagon 5* (-460) 10
> 1702063959 787132 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07HTPF14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120323&oldid=120273 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+40) 10Rectified an unterminated documentation string in the Common Lisp implementation and amended its orthography.
> 1702064060 306753 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Turi ip ip ip14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120324&oldid=120239 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (-4) 10Removed a superfluous and in the looping counter's introductory text.
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> 1702071135 973234 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Threi14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120334&oldid=120333 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+15) 10Formatting
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< 1702074894 739482 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hm. Burlesque has the [r ("reduce") builtin, which is basically Haskell foldl1, but I can't find the scanl1 equivalent, and it's not real easy to construct if you're already using the global state stack for some other purpose.
< 1702074901 923121 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess I could the undocumented s0 S0 g0 stuff, but it always feels a little cheaty, especially since it's not mentioned in the language reference.
> 1702075487 269090 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Expressive14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=120337&oldid=117930 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+53) 10Categories
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