> 1705884635 58142 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Quests14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122276&oldid=122265 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+64) 10Updated and rectified the Extended Backus-Naur Form (EBNF) description. < 1705887156 777338 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1705887196 738108 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1705890618 481960 :Koen_!~Koen@2a01:e34:ec7c:30:11d1:11f:b85b:4993 QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1705910001 347700 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1705910593 208455 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Matthilde14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122277&oldid=90423 5* 03Olus2000 5* (-4) 10Updated links to git > 1705912487 898358 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UM814]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122278&oldid=122167 5* 03Olus2000 5* (-122) 10/* Hello World */ Even shorter < 1705914194 253358 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1705914306 141132 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net JOIN #esolangs m5zs7k :m5zs7k < 1705914431 87615 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1705918275 623038 :supercode!~supercode@user/supercode JOIN #esolangs supercode :[https://web.libera.chat] supercode > 1705920818 166964 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122279&oldid=122241 5* 03Gfdxdgfesthrtyukli 5* (+148) 10/* Introductions */ > 1705922283 744183 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Iavac14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122280 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+118) 10Created page with "Should this just redirect to [[Idvac]]? --~~~~" < 1705922338 236884 :Koen_!~Koen@2a01:e34:ec7c:30:75da:221a:7e7b:f0b5 JOIN #esolangs * :Koen < 1705923025 705746 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1705924676 675181 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1705925194 196954 :supercode!~supercode@user/supercode QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1705926861 566518 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1705931850 804954 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122281&oldid=122128 5* 03Xyzzy 5* (+80) 10 > 1705932030 242822 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122282&oldid=122281 5* 03Xyzzy 5* (+35) 10 > 1705932138 907175 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122283&oldid=122282 5* 03Xyzzy 5* (+152) 10 < 1705932434 54921 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1705937499 606012 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-28-119-160.as13285.net JOIN #esolangs cpressey :[https://web.libera.chat] cpressey < 1705937974 360497 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-28-119-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :"[S]tated purpose affects legal interpretation [...] The GPLs start with long preambles. Those preambles are not operative text in the strictest legal sense, but they are part of the documents, and can be cited to resolve vagueness and ambiguity, where it arises." <-- omg it's a form of "prompt engineering" < 1705938917 686344 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-28-119-160.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds) < 1705939354 607240 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-28-119-160.as13285.net JOIN #esolangs cpressey :[https://web.libera.chat] cpressey < 1705939539 639261 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1705939731 140326 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1705939856 473329 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cpressey: that's a white lie. that's because people won't read or won't obey "Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed." even as they're trying to use a fricking copyright license, and they try to cut out parts of the license, even though they are clearly requried to < 1705939856 974286 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :distribute the whole thing. So GNU put that white lie there in case they listen more to that than the straightforward "changing it is not allowed". < 1705940007 777383 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-28-119-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, the GPLs are just one example. Other licenses are preceded with a statement of purpose too. I don't doubt it affects legal interpretation, when it comes down to it. Whether the GPL's preamble affects legal interpretation in a way that helps GNU or not, I can't say. < 1705940104 876410 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :redistributing the preamble and postamble is simply propaganda that GNU requires you to do if you use their licenses or copy their software, same as how the license for the GNU libc manual requires you to keep the "Free Software Needs Free Documentation" essay in the appendix < 1705940149 852741 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's just that Debian counts the former one about the GPL still a free license, but the latter (or possibly the required front-cover text and back-covered text) too much and doesn't consider the manual free, which I think is ridiculous < 1705940315 233220 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Other licenses are preceded with a statement of purpose too." => yes, the Creative Commons license comes with twice as much explanatory text as legally binding text. I don't think this is a problem. I wish people who write laws added explanatory text too rather than just vomit anything on paper, go on vacation, and hope the courts sort out what < 1705940315 733546 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :their text is supposed to mean. we should just wall then into the parliament until they solve all the homework that the supreme court gives them and disambiguate their own laws, with bread and water only starting from the seventh day, and only at most two personal servants per congressman, like the papal elections do. < 1705940369 943317 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, walling them in goes explicitly against the constitution's guarantees about freedom right now, so we can't do this without modifying the constitution first. > 1705941223 561448 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Category:Featured languages14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122284&oldid=31296 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+24) 10Category < 1705941281 35502 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-28-119-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just want a functioning public domain that includes software.  Maybe that can't happen because software is too special.  I dunno. < 1705941437 748310 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-28-119-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :If I write an essay, I can say, "OK, that's not a work of mine anymore.  No one owns it anymore."  Apparently it's too dangerous to allow that to happen with software. < 1705941594 986918 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-28-119-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :The fact that there might be a patent hiding in it.  The fact that it might be deemed a merchantable good that comes with an implicit warranty of fitness for a particular purpose.  All these dangers, you see. < 1705941879 329290 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1705941885 840763 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1705942196 621438 :supercode!~supercode@user/supercode JOIN #esolangs supercode :[https://web.libera.chat] supercode < 1705943761 269679 :cpressey!~cpressey@host-92-28-119-160.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1705944265 949461 :yewscion!~cdr255_@164.52.227.66 JOIN #esolangs yewscion :Claire Rodriguez < 1705944442 512899 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1705945738 960413 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1705946682 810990 :supercode!~supercode@user/supercode QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1705947442 107908 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wanted a different license, which is effectively like public domain including free from patents, etc, that you are not required to give attribution or copyright notices or to anything else like that; however, anyone who distributes it must use the same license (implicitly or explicitly) or GPL3, AGPL3, CC-BY-SA 4.0 (if they are able to satisfy the terms of those licenses). < 1705947498 116348 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Furthermore, you are not to be sued for violation except for a counterclaim due to someone trying to sue you for violating their own copyright, patent, etc on this work. < 1705950167 914585 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1705950593 724247 :sprock!~sprock@user/sprock JOIN #esolangs sprock :maeve (she/her) < 1705951139 660744 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds > 1705953036 153126 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Random-ass Turing Complete Language14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122285&oldid=122269 5* 03EvyLah 5* (+1325) 10 > 1705953223 47280 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Random-ass Turing Complete Language14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122286&oldid=122285 5* 03EvyLah 5* (+205) 10 < 1705953336 669390 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN #esolangs APic :A. 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ZZZzzz… > 1705964622 880814 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Deadfish~14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122290&oldid=21788 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+11333) 10Added INTERCAL interpreter > 1705965236 618337 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadfish~14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122291&oldid=117075 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+88) 10 > 1705966741 15973 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122292&oldid=122283 5* 03None1 5* (+153) 10/* 0>0 */ < 1705966758 239165 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname > 1705966938 561742 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Iavac14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122293&oldid=122280 5* 03None1 5* (+169) 10 > 1705967314 725585 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadfish~14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122294&oldid=122291 5* 03None1 5* (+29) 10/* Implementation */