2024-02-01: 00:00:24 -!- Sgeo has joined. 01:37:56 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 01:38:56 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 02:19:31 -!- Bowserinator has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 02:19:31 -!- iovoid has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 02:23:19 -!- Bowserinator has joined. 02:25:08 -!- moony has joined. 02:25:11 -!- iovoid has joined. 02:49:28 -!- Melvar has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 03:02:51 -!- Melvar has joined. 04:04:19 [[User talk:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122766&oldid=122656 * None1 * (+88) /* Quines */ 04:11:28 [[Talk:Two-instruction madness!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122767&oldid=122764 * None1 * (+128) /* It seems that ?! has only 2 commands, but it is Turing complete */ 04:16:42 [[brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122768&oldid=122569 * None1 * (+94) 04:37:12 [[Unlike]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122769 * None1 * (+1929) Created page with "{{lang|a=User:None1|i=[[Brainfuck]], [[Befunge-93]] and [[Deadfish]]}} It is named Unlike because it has something similar to the three esolangs. ==Commands== Unlike uses these commands, its programs are on 2D grids, at the start of program, the IP's direction is right and 04:37:40 [[XKCD Random Number]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122770 * None1 * (+37) Redirected page to [[User:XKCD Random Number]] 04:38:33 [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122771&oldid=122760 * None1 * (+13) /* U */ 04:39:13 [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122772&oldid=122644 * None1 * (+88) /* My Esolangs */ 04:42:49 [[Talk:Two-instruction madness!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122773&oldid=122767 * None1 * (+637) /* It seems that ?! has only 2 commands, but it is Turing complete */ 04:44:25 [[Talk:Two-instruction madness!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122774&oldid=122773 * None1 * (+153) /* It seems that ?! has only 2 commands, but it is Turing complete */ 04:49:01 [[Unlike]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122775&oldid=122769 * None1 * (+39) /* Computational class */ 04:51:44 [[PaidFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122776&oldid=121847 * None1 * (+197) /* Examples */ 05:59:03 [[Brainfuck+2]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122777&oldid=122551 * None1 * (+15) 07:36:23 -!- tromp has joined. 08:08:32 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 08:57:51 -!- tromp has joined. 09:04:41 [[Talk:Two-instruction madness!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122778&oldid=122774 * None1 * (+130) /* It seems that ?! has only 2 commands, but it is Turing complete */ 09:10:48 [[ObjLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122779&oldid=122615 * None1 * (+46) /* Syntax */ I forgot that dictionary is unordered 09:14:44 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:15:36 [[ObjLang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122780&oldid=122779 * None1 * (+56) /* Commands */ 09:20:18 [[ObjLang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122781&oldid=122780 * None1 * (+357) /* Fibonacci (via recursion) */ 09:45:47 -!- __monty__ has joined. 09:48:47 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 10:09:55 [[ObjLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122782&oldid=122781 * None1 * (+12) /* Commands */ 10:10:09 -!- Koen_ has joined. 10:16:54 [[ObjLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122783&oldid=122782 * None1 * (+48) /* Commands */ 10:18:52 [[ObjLang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122784&oldid=122783 * None1 * (-4) /* Commands */ 10:24:41 [[Talk:Python is Magic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122785&oldid=122647 * None1 * (+114) /* The Hello World program actually prints Hello, iorld! */ 10:24:49 [[Talk:Python is Magic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122786&oldid=122785 * None1 * (+78) /* The Hello World program actually prints Hello, iorld! */ 10:30:20 [[ObjLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122787&oldid=122784 * None1 * (+30) /* Commands */ Bool is not allowed in ObjLang 10:55:05 [[ObjLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122788&oldid=122787 * None1 * (+11) /* Commands */ 10:56:11 [[ObjLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122789&oldid=122788 * None1 * (+0) /* Commands */ 10:58:23 -!- tromp has joined. 11:01:43 [[ObjLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122790&oldid=122789 * None1 * (+16) /* Commands */ 11:02:14 [[ObjLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122791&oldid=122790 * None1 * (+1) /* Commands */ 11:08:05 [[ObjLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122792&oldid=122791 * None1 * (+14) /* Functions */ 11:16:33 [[ObjLang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122793&oldid=122792 * None1 * (+27) /* A+B Problem */ 11:17:09 [[ObjLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122794&oldid=122793 * None1 * (+0) /* Commands */ 11:20:36 [[ObjLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122795&oldid=122794 * None1 * (+142) /* Fibonacci (via recursion) */ 11:24:12 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Sirikon * New user account 11:27:19 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122796&oldid=122741 * Sirikon * (+164) /* Introductions */ 11:48:59 [[ObjLang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122797&oldid=122795 * None1 * (+4567) /* Computational class */ Added Python interpreter and category 12:04:34 [[ObjLang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122798&oldid=122797 * None1 * (-4463) /* Interpreters */ 12:25:07 [[C = theNextIntegerThatComesAfterAnotherIntegerWithTheValueOf(c)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122799&oldid=106015 * Sirikon * (+6) Bold 13:14:03 -!- FreeFull has quit. 13:21:04 -!- FreeFull has joined. 13:33:53 [[Font]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122800 * B jonas * (+1605) Created page with "The esoteric languages community has created several programming fonts. As the list is getting too long for a wisdom entry, I will list them here. * http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm \oren\'s 816 bitmap font Neoletters. fixed grid of 816 pixels for single-width chara 13:35:27 [[Font]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122801&oldid=122800 * B jonas * (+93) categories 13:37:34 -!- ais523 has joined. 13:38:57 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com). 13:41:58 [[Fungot]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122802&oldid=84669 * B jonas * (+27) [[Category:Probabilistic]] 13:44:23 [[Lambdabot]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122803&oldid=95416 * B jonas * (-4) fallout from IRC drama 13:46:20 [[J-bot]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122804&oldid=95418 * B jonas * (+0) fallout from IRC drama; no longer active, but Firefly maintained it way longer than its terrible architecture deserved 13:49:25 -!- __monty__ has quit (Quit: leaving). 14:03:12 b_jonas: I think the probabilistic category is for programming languages – on the other hand, I am not convinced that fungot is not a programming language 14:03:25 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:10:28 -!- tromp has joined. 14:23:43 [[Birdie]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122805 * Zackbuildit777 * (+716) Created page with "Birdie is a low-level programming language designed by the Sakito System (under the username Zackbuildit online) designed predominantly by a single numeric operation referred to as the "g gate", with features including subroutines, a rotatable queue data structure, 14:34:34 [[Birdie]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122806&oldid=122805 * Zackbuildit777 * (+560) 14:36:25 [[Birdie]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122807&oldid=122806 * Zackbuildit777 * (+66) 14:39:26 [[Birdie]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122808&oldid=122807 * Zackbuildit777 * (+5) 14:42:57 [[Birdie]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122809&oldid=122808 * Zackbuildit777 * (+69) 14:44:56 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 14:44:57 [[User:Zackbuildit777]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122810 * Zackbuildit777 * (+94) Created page with "Sakito System, plural system of unknown number of headmates, C programmer, maker of [[Birdie]]" 14:52:03 -!- Koen_ has joined. 14:52:53 -!- tromp has joined. 15:05:14 -!- Sgeo has joined. 15:13:52 [[Special:Log/move]] move * PythonshellDebugwindow * moved [[C = theNextIntegerThatComesAfterAnotherIntegerWithTheValueOf(c)]] to [[C = theNextIntegerThatComesAfterAnotherIntegerWithTheValueOf(C)]]: Fix capitalisation 16:07:06 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…). 18:12:28 -!- simcop2387 has joined. 18:12:34 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:13:49 -!- Koen_ has joined. 18:14:24 -!- perlbot has joined. 18:17:30 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 18:18:29 -!- Koen_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 18:34:33 -!- tromp has joined. 19:04:25 ais523: yes, and the categories that I applied in https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Font&diff=122801&oldid=122800 probably also only apply to languages. if you don't like them feel free to revert, I won't mind. 19:51:12 -!- nitrix has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in). 19:52:23 -!- nitrix has joined. 20:01:11 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 20:13:09 [[Matrexp]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122819&oldid=115788 * BoundedBeans * (+1038) Banned potential problem characters for parsing extension commands 20:25:44 [[Matrexp]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122820&oldid=122819 * BoundedBeans * (+198) Added code tags, and conditionals with V in the left side is no longer an error 20:36:46 -!- tromp has joined. 20:41:51 -!- APic has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 21:58:57 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 22:00:45 -!- APic has joined. 22:21:28 -!- Koen_ has joined. 22:45:47 [[.exe]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122821&oldid=122696 * EvyLah * (-77) 23:07:25 [[BrainSoup]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122822&oldid=101268 * BoundedBeans * (+1) Fixed example formatting 23:41:26 [[Broccosprout]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122823 * BoundedBeans * (+9514) Created page with "Broccosprout was [[User:BoundedBeans]] first ever true esolang. (Well, I made esolangs before then, but their specifications were not well-defined, and like this one, they were all thematic). It is a [[Trivial brainfuck substitution]]. The latest (and only) su 23:41:50 [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122824&oldid=122771 * BoundedBeans * (+19) 23:42:30 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 23:50:43 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Bulk6470 * New user account 23:52:52 [[User:BoundedBeans]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122825&oldid=122016 * BoundedBeans * (+134) Added Broccosprout link 23:55:03 [[User:BoundedBeans/INTERCAL without labels]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122826&oldid=120105 * BoundedBeans * (-1) Fix grammar mistake 23:59:19 [[CLC-INTERCAL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122827&oldid=122342 * BoundedBeans * (+208) 2024-02-02: 01:39:41 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 01:40:37 [[Talk:APL]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122828 * * (+218) Created page with "==The use of tacit== Tacit style is not even supported by some implementations but treated inexorable elsewhere in some introductions. ~~~~" 01:41:28 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 02:47:13 -!- Melvar has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 03:00:31 -!- Melvar has joined. 03:18:27 [[Trivial brainfuck substitution]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122829&oldid=115105 * BoundedBeans * (+575) Added Broccosprout 04:07:55 [[.exe]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122830&oldid=122821 * EvyLah * (+67) 04:09:00 [[Craftyfunge]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122831 * EvyLah * (+25) Created page with "#REDIRECT {{CraftyFunge}}" 04:09:10 [[Craftyfunge]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122832&oldid=122831 * EvyLah * (+0) Redirected page to [[CraftyFunge]] 04:11:34 [[Gdlang]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122833 * EvyLah * (+20) Redirected page to [[GDLang]] 04:15:32 -!- SGautam has joined. 04:17:20 [[BrainSoup]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122834&oldid=122822 * BoundedBeans * (+157) Repl not working; added workaround 04:18:36 [[Trivial brainfuck substitution]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122835&oldid=122829 * BoundedBeans * (+156) BrainSoup repl not working, added workaround 04:19:02 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Almostahexagon * New user account 04:26:16 [[Broccosprout]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122836&oldid=122823 * BoundedBeans * (+4) Date Modified is not the creation date 04:45:54 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:56:52 -!- Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 06:06:20 -!- Noisytoot has joined. 07:14:33 -!- SGautam has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 07:35:48 -!- tromp has joined. 09:20:10 -!- Koen_ has joined. 09:22:13 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 10:31:44 -!- tromp has joined. 10:43:02 -!- __monty__ has joined. 12:26:31 [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Yetyetty1234567890 * uploaded "[[File:Wisc.jpg]]" 12:39:33 [[WISC]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122838 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+458) Created page with "{{wrongtitle|title=[[File:wisc.jpg]]}} ==Body== WISC is a OISC that has the instruction "Whisk a batter for __ minutes and go to instruction of the recipe that the minutes whisked of this batter is offsetting to and move to the next batter". Because that's kind 12:44:29 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:14:41 -!- Guest81 has joined. 13:16:28 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Jaegerwald * New user account 13:19:00 -!- Guest81 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 13:26:10 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122839&oldid=122796 * Jaegerwald * (+293) huh 13:27:09 [[User:Jaegerwald]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122840 * Jaegerwald * (+84) Created page with "Hi! I'm me. I do stuff. Check out my [https://github.com/JaegerwaldDev GitHub!!!]" 13:28:47 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122841&oldid=122839 * Jaegerwald * (-4) im stupid 14:07:37 [[8BallScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122842&oldid=106894 * Jaegerwald * (+322) This page was outdated. Right now, EightBallScript is basically dead, so I fixed that information. 14:09:50 [[8BallScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122843&oldid=122842 * Jaegerwald * (+13) fixed mistakes i did (i do not know this markdown language) 15:18:31 [[The bluetooth device is ready to pair]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122844 * Infinitehexagon * (+549) Created page with "'''The bluetooth device is ready to pair''' or TBDIRP is an esolang based off of something [[User:Infinitehexagon]] saw on YouTube about a bluetooth speaker with an accent. [[Category:2024]][[Category:Languages]][[Category:Pseudonat 15:49:15 -!- Sgeo has joined. 15:55:57 -!- APic has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 16:02:46 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 16:05:34 [[Birdie]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122845&oldid=122809 * Zackbuildit777 * (+346) 16:13:32 -!- APic has joined. 16:24:27 -!- tromp has joined. 16:41:12 -!- wib_jonas has joined. 16:41:26 `olist 1297 16:41:29 olist : shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas 16:45:35 -!- wib_jonas has quit (Client Quit). 17:00:00 -!- Koen_ has joined. 17:03:45 -!- Joao003 has joined. 17:20:35 o/ <(Hi) 17:30:04 [[Birdie]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122846&oldid=122845 * Zackbuildit777 * (+312) 17:30:25 [[Birdie]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122847&oldid=122846 * Zackbuildit777 * (-12) 17:30:44 [[Birdie]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122848&oldid=122847 * Zackbuildit777 * (+3) 17:44:31 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 17:46:40 -!- FreeFull has joined. 17:56:25 [[The bluetooth device is ready to pair]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122849&oldid=122844 * Infinitehexagon * (+2264) 17:56:59 [[The bluetooth device is ready to pair]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122850&oldid=122849 * Infinitehexagon * (+51) 17:57:13 [[The bluetooth device is ready to pair]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122851&oldid=122850 * Infinitehexagon * (+9) 18:02:09 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 18:02:26 why is it that every f*cking message here is this f*cking bot 18:05:43 If you don't like it, you can filter out messages from the bot, I think 18:14:03 [[The bluetooth device is ready to pair]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122852&oldid=122851 * Infinitehexagon * (+267) 18:17:34 [[User:Infinitehexagon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122853&oldid=122748 * Infinitehexagon * (+46) /* My Esolangs (chronological order) */ 18:18:38 [[The bluetooth device is ready to pair]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122854&oldid=122852 * Infinitehexagon * (+61) 18:22:34 [[The bluetooth device is ready to pair]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122855&oldid=122854 * Infinitehexagon * (+279) 18:24:34 -!- tromp has joined. 18:27:26 [[The bluetooth device is ready to pair]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122856&oldid=122855 * Infinitehexagon * (-849) 18:29:37 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 18:46:58 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:06:17 -!- __monty__ has quit (Quit: leaving). 19:07:39 -!- __monty__ has joined. 20:16:11 -!- Joao003 has quit (Quit: Bye!). 20:16:29 -!- Joao003 has joined. 20:17:00 -!- __monty__ has quit (Quit: leaving). 20:24:30 -!- slavfox has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 20:25:44 -!- slavfox has joined. 21:30:44 [[Language-oriented Programming]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122857&oldid=96923 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+23) Category 22:13:32 -!- Joao003 has quit (Quit: Bye!). 22:26:58 -!- rodgort has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:39:34 -!- rodgort has joined. 23:06:46 [[Two-instruction madness! (fr this time)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122858&oldid=122657 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+49) made a more rigorous proof of turing completeness 23:07:11 [[Two-instruction madness! (fr this time)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122859&oldid=122858 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+1) new line 23:09:38 [[Two-instruction madness! (fr this time)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122860&oldid=122859 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+10) /* I/O */ optional 23:15:40 [[Talk:Two-instruction madness!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122861&oldid=122778 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+129) /* It seems that ?! has only 2 commands, but it is Turing complete */ 23:17:47 -!- slavfox has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 23:18:25 [[Two-instruction madness! (fr this time)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122862&oldid=122860 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+24) Is it not? 23:23:55 -!- slavfox has joined. 23:24:17 [[Talk:Two-instruction madness!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122863&oldid=122861 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+120) /* It seems that ?! has only 2 commands, but it is Turing complete */ 23:50:02 -!- Koen_ has joined. 2024-02-03: 00:09:25 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 00:11:52 [[Talk:CLC-INTERCAL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122864&oldid=121881 * BoundedBeans * (+616) 01:39:41 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 01:40:37 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 02:32:49 [[Birdie]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122865&oldid=122848 * Zackbuildit777 * (+255) 02:44:23 -!- Melvar has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 02:57:20 -!- Melvar has joined. 03:58:14 [[Logimat]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122866 * Uellenberg * (+11896) Initial Page 04:04:22 [[User:Yetyetty1234567890]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122867&oldid=122641 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+10) /* Esolangs */ 04:26:48 [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122868&oldid=122824 * Uellenberg * (+14) Add Logimat 07:19:32 -!- Koen_ has joined. 08:08:58 [[Talk:Bitwise Cyclic Tag]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122869&oldid=108855 * Olus2000 * (+309) Ask about TCness of self-BCT 11:28:27 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:46:01 -!- Joao003 has joined. 11:55:37 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Kon * New user account 11:56:21 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create2 * Kon * created new account User:Konloch: Reserving 'Konloch' 12:25:44 [[Reso]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122870 * Lynndotpy * (+2214) Create Resolang page. 14:21:26 -!- sprout_ has joined. 14:24:51 -!- sprout has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 15:36:27 -!- Joao003 has quit (Quit: Bye!). 16:56:10 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:17:46 -!- Joao003 has joined. 17:18:52 -!- Joao003 has quit (Client Quit). 17:19:07 -!- Joao003 has joined. 17:27:00 -!- Joao003 has changed nick to Joao[3]. 17:27:58 -!- Joao[3] has quit (Quit: Bye!). 17:28:14 -!- Joao[3] has joined. 19:19:49 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: rebooting). 19:20:40 -!- FreeFull has joined. 19:20:54 -!- FreeFull_ has joined. 19:22:08 -!- FreeFull_ has quit (Client Quit). 19:22:11 -!- FreeFull has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:22:35 -!- FreeFull has joined. 19:37:16 -!- Sgeo has joined. 20:20:26 [[Talk:Bitwise Cyclic Tag]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122871&oldid=122869 * Keymaker * (+314) Reply. 22:46:32 -!- ais523 has joined. 2024-02-04: 00:58:30 [[Talk:Two-instruction madness!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122872&oldid=122863 * None1 * (+254) /* It seems that ?! has only 2 commands, but it is Turing complete */ 00:59:40 [[Talk:Two-instruction madness!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122873&oldid=122872 * None1 * (+312) /* It seems that ?! has only 2 commands, but it is Turing complete */ 01:06:44 [[Talk:C = theNextIntegerThatComesAfterAnotherIntegerWithTheValueOf(C)]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122874 * None1 * (+145) Created page with "Where is template? template T add(T a,T b){return a+b;} --~~~~" 01:09:49 [[Talk:C = theNextIntegerThatComesAfterAnotherIntegerWithTheValueOf(C)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122875&oldid=122874 * None1 * (+95) 01:37:26 [[Talk:Two-instruction madness!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122876&oldid=122873 * Ais523 * (+1331) /* It seems that ?! has only 2 commands, but it is Turing complete */ using [[Brainpocalypse II]] as a clearer example 01:39:47 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:44:42 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 01:49:41 [[Brainpocalypse II]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122877&oldid=115676 * Ais523 * (-3) /* Minimized version */ grammar 03:02:43 -!- Melvar has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 03:05:03 -!- op_4 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:05:32 -!- op_4 has joined. 03:16:14 -!- Melvar has joined. 03:17:58 Can the port number be specified in a X.509 certificate? 03:20:36 [[WISC]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122878&oldid=122838 * None1 * (+41) Remember to categorize! 03:21:22 [[Birdie]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122879&oldid=122865 * None1 * (+1) 03:25:36 [[ObjLang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122880&oldid=122798 * None1 * (-40) /* Fibonacci (via recursion) */ Now that there's an interpreter it would be easy to test that this is correct 03:29:18 [[ObjLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122881&oldid=122880 * None1 * (+44) /* Fibonacci (via recursion) */ 03:31:41 [[ObjLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122882&oldid=122881 * None1 * (+13) 04:21:58 -!- Joao[3] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:47:40 [[Tile]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122883&oldid=108682 * Dtp09 * (+3) moved interpreter to github 04:53:48 [[Textile]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122884&oldid=108593 * Dtp09 * (+3) moved compiler to github 05:00:35 [[Moaiscript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122885&oldid=107970 * Dtp09 * (-92) moved interpreter to github 05:14:39 [[Drawfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122886&oldid=118433 * Dtp09 * (-9) 05:17:39 [[Numberlist]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122887&oldid=105419 * Dtp09 * (-19) 05:23:13 [[Bitflipper]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122888&oldid=107768 * Dtp09 * (+3) moved interpreter to github 07:06:03 [[Reso]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122889&oldid=122870 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) Fix category 07:06:57 [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122890&oldid=122868 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+11) /* R */ add 07:52:16 -!- Koen_ has joined. 08:20:53 -!- Hooloovoo has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 08:24:59 -!- Hooloovoo has joined. 08:50:08 -!- tromp has joined. 09:19:14 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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You have to define other functions using operators! Like int func(){return 02:58:25 [[-C++]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122929&oldid=122928 * None1 * (+3) 02:59:00 [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122930&oldid=122926 * None1 * (+11) /* Non-alphabetic */ 02:59:30 [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122931&oldid=122908 * None1 * (+45) /* My Esolangs */ 02:59:39 [[User:None1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122932&oldid=122931 * None1 * (+0) /* My Esolangs */ 03:01:40 [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122933&oldid=122617 * None1 * (+187) /* (top, height) */ Added [[-C++]] implementation 03:02:25 [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A-M)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122934&oldid=121982 * None1 * (+82) /* --Unless */ Added [[-C++]] implementation 03:04:30 [[-C++]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122935&oldid=122929 * None1 * (+1) 03:10:04 [[-C++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122936&oldid=122935 * None1 * (+37) 03:10:33 [[-C++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122937&oldid=122936 * None1 * (+33) 03:21:12 [[-C++]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122938&oldid=122937 * None1 * (+1) 03:22:11 [[-C++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122939&oldid=122938 * None1 * (+27) 03:24:48 [[Psychopaths]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122940&oldid=116391 * None1 * (+13) 03:44:36 [[-C++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122941&oldid=122939 * None1 * (+83) 04:02:07 [[-C++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122942&oldid=122941 * None1 * (+24) 04:05:54 [[-C++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122943&oldid=122942 * None1 * (+1721) /* Examples */ Added Turing completeness proof 04:13:18 [[-C++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122944&oldid=122943 * None1 * (+183) /* Turing completeness proof */ 04:13:28 [[-C++]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122945&oldid=122944 * None1 * (-2) /* Implmentations */ 04:14:57 [[-C++]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122946&oldid=122945 * None1 * (+0) 04:15:42 [[-C++]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122947&oldid=122946 * None1 * (+24) 04:31:00 [[Talk:Printf]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122948 * None1 * (+182) Created page with "==Turing completeness proof wrong== Printfbf has only 16777216 cells and therefore not Turing complete. --~~~~" 04:36:22 [[AGG]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122949&oldid=122916 * None1 * (+1) 04:36:47 [[-C++]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122950&oldid=122947 * None1 * (+1) /* Differences from C++ */ 05:02:47 [[Esoteric programming language]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122951&oldid=120548 * None1 * (+0) Added stress 05:06:10 [[Esoteric programming language]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122952&oldid=122951 * None1 * (+75) Added pronounciation for esolang according to ais523's reply, please revise if wrong 05:34:26 [re esolangs's latest message] not being American, I am not 100% convinced I've got the US English pronunciation right, could someone who speaks US English natively check? 05:54:11 -!- tromp has joined. 06:04:05 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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I have no idea. */ 07:11:02 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 07:13:44 [[Unpseudorandom]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122961&oldid=69309 * None1 * (+135) 07:17:37 I have an idea for a stupid prank. We should buy an empty parcel in a cementary on the island of knights and knaves (where knights' gravestones always tell the truth and knaves' gravestones always lie) and put a stone on it engraved “Here lies a knave or Raymond Smullyan” to make naive puzzlers think they found Raymond Smullyan's grave. 07:24:15 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 07:31:00 [[Ascenic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122962&oldid=122957 * None1 * (+37) 07:41:02 though we should probably use a more complex puzzle spread around multiple gravestones to make it less suspicious 07:49:03 -!- Guest52 has joined. 07:51:25 -!- Guest52 has quit (Client Quit). 07:51:48 maybe it would be easier to just vandalize a normal graveyard 07:52:01 probably in a nerdy college town 07:55:41 (and by vandalize I mean, like, tape stuff to gravestones) 08:19:21 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:20:21 -!- tromp has joined. 09:01:23 Hooloovoo: graveyards in normal college towns don't have weird constraints like everyone buried there is either a knight or a knave and knights' gravestones always tell the truth while knaves' gravestones always lie. those kinds of constraints can only rise on isolated places, like Madagascar. 09:42:22 Words have too much power in the world of logic puzzles; just uttering the phrase "This sentence is false" causes the world to collapse. Fortunately the real world is a bit more robust. :-P 09:43:30 Also https://xkcd.com/246/ 09:52:17 [[Ascenic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122963&oldid=122962 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (-3) 10:16:12 [[Talk:Ascenic]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122964 * None1 * (+122) Created page with "Why is this esolang with only one stack TC? --~~~~" 10:24:57 [[Talk:Ascenic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122965&oldid=122964 * PkmnQ * (+231) 10:25:17 [[Talk:Ascenic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122966&oldid=122965 * PkmnQ * (+1) 10:38:35 -!- Koen_ has joined. 10:41:26 [[Talk:Ascenic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122967&oldid=122966 * None1 * (+155) 10:50:12 -!- __monty__ has joined. 10:51:06 [[Ascenic]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122968&oldid=122963 * None1 * (+3) Anyway is there difference from and e in phonetics? 10:51:25 [[Ascenic]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122969&oldid=122968 * None1 * (-2) 12:50:24 [[Recorder]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122970&oldid=122917 * Yourusername * (+54) ~~~~ 12:50:41 [[Recorder]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122971&oldid=122970 * Yourusername * (+1) ~~~~ 12:53:38 [[Recorder]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122972&oldid=122971 * Yourusername * (+0) /* Comments */ ~~~~ 13:25:20 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122973&oldid=122919 * Shamrocky * (+24) /* Introductions */ 13:26:51 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122974&oldid=122973 * Shamrocky * (+19) /* Introductions */ 13:27:43 [[User:Shamrocky]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=122975 * Shamrocky * (+179) Created page with "Hello everynyan! How are you? Fine thank you! (Oh my gah!) Uh, I wish I were a bird! ("Why are you speaking English?" [translated]) "My daughter is going to America." [translated]" 13:29:27 [[User:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122976&oldid=122975 * Shamrocky * (-171) Replaced content with "''':3'''" 13:29:59 [[User:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=122977&oldid=122976 * Shamrocky * (+116) 14:11:16 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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has joined. 22:19:26 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 22:22:18 -!- tromp has joined. 23:29:30 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 23:55:17 How should I start to make a pokemon battle simulator in C? I should try to avoid needing dependencies, and intend to implement it as a C API. I don't want many of the features of other battle simulators, but do intend to implement some things that others don't (e.g. Unown's letter in generation II). I wanted to write it but am not really sure what to start with, although I wrote a few things that can't be used as they are. 2024-02-07: 00:03:58 zzo38: I assume you'd start with two things: handling ordinary damaging moves that don't have special attributes but you have to do the to-hit randomness and the damage calculation and subtract the HP; and some way to get lots of example pokémon with stas and move lists, probably by importing the parties of every enemy trainer in one of the early games 00:04:19 -!- Sgeo has joined. 00:04:28 no wait, before that, you start by checking what other people have done. let me find the link. 00:11:43 I would think that the data structures and data files would have to be set up first. 00:11:55 But I am not even sure how that should be done, either. 00:21:34 I did partially write the "pokemon.h" file, although that might be changed in future. 01:08:01 found it. https://www.youtube.com/@pimanrules/videos is the person who simulated lots of pokemon battles. he didn't reimplement everything, but ran the relevant game in an emulator, but still had to understand a lot of parts of the game to be able to write the necessary interfaces for that, largely because they wanted both trainers to be controlled by the enemy AI, and the games don't normally support 01:08:07 that. I think that's not quite what you want, you want a reimplementation, but there's probably still a lot of relevant information there. 01:08:55 also they extracted the parties of all trainers in red/blue and I think like two more games 01:09:27 nope, only one more game 01:13:49 which pokemon game do you mostly want to base this on? 01:14:42 (hopefully you didn't mean the TCG because then everything I said would be irrelevant) 01:25:53 I don't mean the TCG. I would intend that it would eventually be able to implement all generations, although not necessarily all implemented in the first version 01:33:39 This is what I wrote so far: http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/pokemontext.ui/raw/4955470380beede4d27d7d9e72876ebcf1b58f4d It is only a part of the C API definition, and it may be changed in future. It is not an implementation, so far. (Some of them might be made only a minimal implementation at first. However, loading the data and implementing it in a way that can be easily extensible later, is something important) 01:37:30 Kind of a random thing, but I guess I might as well ask for ideas. 01:37:33 (Using some existing code/data may be acceptable, especially if it is public domain and is written in C) 01:37:39 I have this situation where there's a daemon, and it has a multiplexed connection thing to a remote system; it's actually an SSH connection, with regular OpenSSH daemon on the other end, while the client side is Go's standard SSH library. 01:37:48 I'd like to have the daemon run an rsync operation tunneled over this connection, by starting an instance of rsync locally, starting another as --daemon on the remote side, and then passing data between the two over the existing multiplexed SSH connection. 01:37:56 Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, rsync just has two ways it can connect to a remote system: either over a TCP connection (where it expects the daemon as the remote end), or using a remote-shell program (traditionally rsh, usually ssh, sometimes a wrapper of some kind). In the latter case, it'll make its own pipes and then spawn a shell to run the remote-shell command line. In my case, I'd 01:37:58 rather just hand it a pair of file descriptors that are pipes my daemon will read/write. 01:38:12 I can think of a couple of workarounds how to give it a command line that would connect to the daemon (cat with some named pipes, nc/socat to a Unix domain socket), but nothing that would avoid requiring an extra copy, with all data passing from local rsync to its spawned program via a pipe rsync makes, then from that command to the daemon using some mechanism. I'd like that just be a single 01:38:14 thing rsync would use to talk to the daemon. 01:38:21 (I vaguely recall last time I tried this, I verified that even if I pass some extra file descriptors to rsync when starting it, it does not cause those to be inherited by the shell that runs the remote-shell command.) 01:38:31 (There's one potential solution where I have the remote-shell command be a program that connects to the daemon over a Unix domain socket and passes references to its own stdin and stdout over the socket so that the daemon can start reading/writing them instead, but that feels a little too overengineered.) 01:38:38 Am I missing some simple method by which I could hand my own pipes to rsync and tell it "here, these are connected to a rsync daemon"? 01:38:45 (Having rsync use TCP would also avoid the extra copy, but then my daemon would have to listen on a TCP port and worry about unexpected connections and whatnot.) 01:41:57 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 01:43:02 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 01:59:05 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 03:13:12 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Presi1234 * New user account 03:18:22 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123015&oldid=122990 * Presi1234 * (+141) 03:20:10 [[User:Presi1234]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123016 * Presi1234 * (+31) Created page with "Hi, Im in Vietnam :1 [[JSF*ck]]" 04:50:41 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 04:51:57 -!- FreeFull has joined. 05:09:56 [[Talk:Ascenic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123017&oldid=122967 * Ais523 * (+1540) I think this is TC but it isn't completely obvious, the usual methods of proving this sort of language TC don't work because its stack manipulation primitives are limited 05:17:59 [[Talk:Ascenic]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123018&oldid=123017 * Ais523 * (+3) fix typo 06:23:51 [[Spiral Rise]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123019&oldid=120577 * Ais523 * (+0) /* 5-symbol tag system */ fix typo 07:53:46 -!- tromp has joined. 08:00:19 -!- Koen_ has joined. 08:16:58 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:31:17 fizzie: I just tested, and in fact rsync does pass an extra file descriptor to the program that it uses to connect 08:31:24 ``` type rsync 08:31:26 bash: line 0: type: rsync: not found 08:31:40 fizzie: the command to reproduce is: (set -e; rm fakeaux; echo $'#!/bin/sh\necho hello >&8' > fakesh; chmod a+x fakesh; rsync --rsh ~+/fakesh imaginary::imaginary 8>fakeaux ||:; cat fakeaux) 08:32:09 fizzie: the rsync will fail here, but it does execute fakesh with the extra file descriptor found, and fakesh writes "hello" into that file descriptor 08:37:25 of course a drastic option would be to compile a modified custom rsync 08:49:28 [[User talk:Presi1234]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123020 * Presi1234 * (+31) Created page with "Hi, I im Vietnam :1
[[Len]]" 09:14:56 Huh, I must've not tested that after all. Though I guess it only helps for passing in the pipes without giving them names; the `fakesh` equivalent would still need to copy between the rsync pipes and the extra ones. 09:16:51 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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It adds some useful commands to Brainfuck. == Instructions == Current instruction set {| class="wikitable" |- ! Instruction !! D 10:41:32 [[User:TeslaX93]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123024&oldid=58276 * TeslaX93 * (+18) 10:56:55 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:01:27 [[Sloopy]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123025 * Chris Pressey * (+2434) Created page with "'''Sloopy''' is a pedestrian C-like Turing-complete language intended to be used in proofs of Turing-completeness. There are four global variables in every Sloopy program: * done, a boolean, initially false * state, an unbounded integer, 11:02:32 [[Sloopy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123026&oldid=123025 * Chris Pressey * (+66) /* Computational class */ formatting 11:27:24 -!- Koen_ has joined. 11:29:01 [[Sloopy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123027&oldid=123026 * Chris Pressey * (+205) Link to reference for the 2nd claim in this paragraph 11:41:48 [[Sloopy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123028&oldid=123027 * Chris Pressey * (+815) Rough description of "Tape-only Sloopy". 11:42:52 [[Sloopy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123029&oldid=123028 * Chris Pressey * (-12) Fix that 12:01:19 [[InternationalFuck]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123030 * TeslaX93 * (+1247) Created page with "PitbullFuck is yet another [[TrivialBrainfuckSubstitution]] language. Instructions are based on the song ''International Love'' by '''Pitbull'''. === Lyrics (chorus) === You put it down like New York City, I never sleep Wild like Los Angeles, my fantasy Hott 12:01:26 [[Sloopy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123031&oldid=123029 * Chris Pressey * (+651) More discussing the transformation from Tape-only Sloopy to Sloopy proper 12:01:34 [[InternationalFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123032&oldid=123030 * TeslaX93 * (+5) 12:06:07 [[Sloopy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123033&oldid=123031 * Chris Pressey * (+290) A clarifying note 12:07:10 [[InternationalFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123034&oldid=123032 * TeslaX93 * (+2373) 12:07:22 [[InternationalFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123035&oldid=123034 * TeslaX93 * (+6) 12:07:42 [[User:TeslaX93]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123036&oldid=123024 * TeslaX93 * (+23) 12:13:19 [[Sloopy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123037&oldid=123033 * Chris Pressey * (+548) 12:26:43 [[Sloopy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123038&oldid=123037 * Chris Pressey * (+320) Describe what is messed up here. Note to self: fix this later. 12:45:47 -!- wib_jonas has joined. 12:46:09 [[User:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123039&oldid=123007 * Shamrocky * (+3) /* About Me */ 12:46:47 [[User:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123040&oldid=123039 * Shamrocky * (+33) /* Baiken */ 12:54:36 [[User:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123041&oldid=123040 * Shamrocky * (+522) 12:55:31 [[User:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123042&oldid=123041 * Shamrocky * (+6) 12:56:07 [[User:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123043&oldid=123042 * Shamrocky * (+6) 12:57:21 [[User:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123044&oldid=123043 * Shamrocky * (-29) /* Favorite Entries */ 12:59:34 [[Data]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123045 * Yourusername * (+552) Created page with "Data is a programming language i made that uses only json-like data and dot notation to make logic == The Two Things == === Data === a = {val: "hi", op: "hello", other: "idk", these: "names don't matter until you use dot notation"} true = { val: "true" op: false a 13:02:05 [[User:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123046&oldid=123044 * Shamrocky * (+85) 13:56:34 [[User talk:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123047&oldid=123011 * Shamrocky * (+24) 13:57:01 [[User talk:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123048&oldid=123047 * Shamrocky * (-5696) Replaced content with "=Inbox=" 13:57:15 [[User:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123049&oldid=123046 * Shamrocky * (+5597) /* Ramblings of a Madwoman */ 14:45:11 [[Sloopy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123050&oldid=123038 * Chris Pressey * (-818) Fix the translation (mainly delete the uneeded translation in the wrong direction) 14:46:08 [[Sloopy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123051&oldid=123050 * Chris Pressey * (+0) catipalizatioN 15:11:17 -!- chiselfuse has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 15:11:48 [[Tuvars]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123052&oldid=100268 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+170) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Tuvars programming language on GitHub and designated the reference implementation as a dead link. 15:12:08 -!- chiselfuse has joined. 15:22:57 [[Sloopy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123053&oldid=123051 * Chris Pressey * (+701) Add EBNF grammar. 15:25:36 [[Sloopy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123054&oldid=123053 * Chris Pressey * (+351) Add grammar changes for Tape-only Sloopy. 15:38:17 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 15:56:39 [[Sloopy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123055&oldid=123054 * Chris Pressey * (+477) A few words on the semantics 15:56:59 [[Sloopy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123056&oldid=123055 * Chris Pressey * (-2) /* Semantics */ formatting 15:57:51 [[Sloopy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123057&oldid=123056 * Chris Pressey * (+14) Add section to make the ToC show up in a nicer place 15:59:34 -!- tromp has joined. 16:10:50 -!- wib_jonas has quit (Quit: Client closed). 16:21:34 [[MIX (Knuth)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123058&oldid=110299 * B jonas * (+100) /* Extensions */ references for the extensions 16:37:33 [[Config+]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123059 * Jaio * (+6552) Create page for Config+ 16:40:25 [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123060&oldid=123013 * Jaio * (+14) add Config+ to Language list 16:43:23 [[Config+]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123061&oldid=123059 * Jaio * (+1) typo :) 17:23:58 -!- Hooloovoo has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 17:26:28 -!- Hooloovoo has joined. 17:51:15 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:51:29 [[Data]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123062&oldid=123045 * Yourusername * (+72) /* Data */ 17:52:21 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 17:58:22 [[Unpseudorandom]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123063&oldid=122961 * LEOMOK * (+40) the computational class is added 18:10:20 [[2dLang]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123064 * Yourusername * (+573) ~~~~ 18:13:41 [[User:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123065&oldid=123049 * Shamrocky * (+476) 18:22:54 -!- tromp has joined. 18:36:17 [[User:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123066&oldid=123065 * Shamrocky * (+466) /* Resident Evil */ 18:36:45 [[User:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123067&oldid=123066 * Shamrocky * (+1) 18:41:09 [[FUNC]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123068 * Yourusername * (+314) ~~~~ 18:55:37 [[User:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123069&oldid=123067 * Shamrocky * (+6) 18:59:03 [[User:Shamrocky]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123070&oldid=123069 * Shamrocky * (+178) 19:09:09 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:54:28 -!- __monty__ has quit (Quit: leaving). 21:25:34 [[OlleH]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123071&oldid=115591 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+52) Categories 22:39:55 [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123072&oldid=117878 * BoundedBeans * (+503) Detailed how I got the C-INTERCAL source to compile 23:15:04 [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123073&oldid=123072 * BoundedBeans * (+436) Confirmed compile method working on WSL 23:32:59 [[Keywords]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123074 * BestCoder * (+477) ~~~~ 23:33:52 [[Keywords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123075&oldid=123074 * BestCoder * (+32) /* Wait... */ 23:34:21 -!- Sgeo has joined. 23:34:39 [[Keywords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123076&oldid=123075 * BestCoder * (+45) /* Wait... */ 23:36:31 [[Keywords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123077&oldid=123076 * BestCoder * (+62) /* Funcs */ 2024-02-08: 00:49:32 [[DotNetOISC]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123078 * BoundedBeans * (+9744) Created page with "DotNetOISC is an OISC-like esolang by [[User:BoundedBeans]] based off of the dotnet executable. ==Syntax== Each logical line consists of at least five strings. Logical lines are separated by newlines. @:''anything''; gets removed from 00:50:04 [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123079&oldid=123060 * BoundedBeans * (+17) 00:50:18 [[User:BoundedBeans]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123080&oldid=122825 * BoundedBeans * (+16) 01:29:09 [[Rooms]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123081 * BestCoder * (+1034) ~~~~ 01:29:52 [[Rooms]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123082&oldid=123081 * BestCoder * (+2) /* Pickup */ 01:30:46 [[Rooms]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123083&oldid=123082 * BestCoder * (+42) /* Return */ 01:31:49 [[Rooms]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123084&oldid=123083 * BestCoder * (+7) /* Rooms */ 01:32:57 [[Rooms]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123085&oldid=123084 * BestCoder * (+6) /* Stuff to know */ 01:34:11 [[Rooms]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123086&oldid=123085 * BestCoder * (+126) 01:35:12 [[Rooms]] 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Send R and then a space and then the full URL and then carriage return and line feed. Discard the first line of the result.) 06:01:01 -!- lambdabot has joined. 06:01:01 -!- isabella has joined. 06:01:01 -!- leah2 has joined. 06:01:01 -!- haavard has joined. 08:11:20 -!- ManDeJan has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:12:45 -!- ManDeJan has joined. 08:14:15 -!- ManDeJan has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:20:39 -!- ManDeJan has joined. 08:37:46 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:53:33 -!- moony has quit (Quit: leaving). 08:53:36 -!- Bowserinator has quit (Quit: Blame iczero something happened). 08:53:36 -!- iovoid has quit (Quit: iovoid has quit!). 09:09:22 -!- Bowserinator has joined. 09:10:56 -!- iovoid has joined. 09:11:14 -!- moony has joined. 09:33:58 -!- moony has quit (Quit: leaving). 09:34:17 -!- Bowserinator has quit (Quit: Blame iczero something happened). 09:34:17 -!- iovoid has quit (Quit: iovoid has quit!). 09:55:18 -!- Bowserinator has joined. 09:57:40 -!- moony has joined. 09:57:42 -!- iovoid has joined. 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/* Print */ 15:08:12 [[Refer]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123126&oldid=123125 * Yourusername * (+33) /* Extension */ 15:09:38 [[Refer]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123127&oldid=123126 * Yourusername * (+62) /* Comments */ 15:14:08 -!- Sgeo has joined. 15:21:41 [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123128&oldid=122997 * Yourusername * (-2) /* ME */ 15:21:53 [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123129&oldid=123128 * Yourusername * (-2) /* Recorder code */ 15:22:58 [[Anything]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123130 * Yourusername * (+42) Created page with "Write anything below = Write stuff below =" 15:58:07 [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123131&oldid=123079 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) /* D */ Alphabetise 15:59:37 [[DotNetOISC]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123132&oldid=123078 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) Fix category 17:08:54 [[Anything]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123133&oldid=123130 * Infinitehexagon * (+208) 17:14:36 [[Anything]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123134&oldid=123133 * Infinitehexagon * (+8) 17:42:38 -!- Koen_ has joined. 18:05:45 [[Mca]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123135 * EvyLah * (+17) Redirected page to [[MCA]] 18:06:42 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123136&oldid=123119 * EvyLah * (+3) 18:09:21 [[Interpret]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123137 * Yourusername * (+540) Created page with "= Everything = Interpret is a metaprogramming language that uses reduction == Stuff == === Types === write types = [] to make the types types = [ eval x, app a b, Z, S, F x, ] === Reduce === For any things that contain inputs, (like the App funct 18:10:19 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123138&oldid=123136 * EvyLah * (+34) 18:11:16 -!- __monty__ has quit (Quit: leaving). 18:13:45 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123139&oldid=123138 * EvyLah * (+141) 18:33:19 [[Rooms]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123140&oldid=123123 * Yourusername * (+1) /* Condition */ 18:34:22 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123141&oldid=123139 * EvyLah * (+3) 18:40:47 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 18:44:35 -!- Thelie has joined. 18:46:35 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123142&oldid=123141 * EvyLah * (+181) 18:49:29 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123143&oldid=123142 * EvyLah * (+261) 19:05:05 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123144&oldid=123143 * EvyLah * (+366) 19:07:41 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123145&oldid=123144 * EvyLah * (+18) 19:10:17 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123146&oldid=123145 * EvyLah * (+129) 19:10:43 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123147&oldid=123146 * EvyLah * (+10) 19:11:22 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123148&oldid=123147 * EvyLah * (+0) 19:11:41 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123149&oldid=123148 * EvyLah * (+17) 19:47:05 [[Ice box]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123150&oldid=122960 * AnotherUser05 * (+2) 20:00:17 [[JustWords]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123151 * AnotherUser05 * (+494) Created page with "JustWords is an esolang created by [[User:AnotherUser05]] where the only valid characters are letters. {| class="wikitable" ! Syntax !! Description |- | Zero - Nine || These are used for number inputs. For example, OneThreeEight would b 20:17:34 [[JustWords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123152&oldid=123151 * AnotherUser05 * (+20) 21:02:27 -!- chiselfuse has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:02:56 -!- chiselfuse has joined. 21:30:05 -!- Thelie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:22:39 [[Scratch is dumb]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123153&oldid=122892 * Salpynx * (+61) Interpreter in Scratch, accepts BASE64 encoded binaries as well as hex. 22:23:20 [[Rooms]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123154&oldid=123140 * BestCoder * (+64) /* Place */ 22:33:37 -!- Koen_ has joined. 22:34:59 [[Talk:Recorder/Rules]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123155&oldid=123005 * BestCoder * (+5) /* DON'T DO BAD WORDS */ 22:40:56 [[Topsy turvy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123156&oldid=40220 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+74) Categories 22:41:23 [[Special:Log/move]] move * PythonshellDebugwindow * moved [[Topsy turvy]] to [[Topsy Turvy]]: Fix capitalisation 23:37:16 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123159&oldid=123120 * B3stc0der * (+22) ~~~~ 23:37:37 [[User:B3stc0der]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123160 * B3stc0der * (+13) ~~~~ 23:41:21 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 23:46:24 [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123161&oldid=122616 * B3stc0der * (+18) /* Recurse */ 23:47:51 [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123162&oldid=123161 * B3stc0der * (+111) /* Recorder */ 23:53:36 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 2024-02-09: 00:28:38 [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * EvyLah * uploaded "[[File:Mecomp.png]]": mecomp diagram 00:29:09 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123164&oldid=123149 * EvyLah * (-56) 00:29:49 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123165&oldid=123164 * EvyLah * (+12) 00:30:28 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123166&oldid=123165 * EvyLah * (-6) 00:48:21 [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123167&oldid=123131 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+18) /* T */ add 01:21:56 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123168&oldid=123166 * EvyLah * (+721) 01:31:51 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123169&oldid=123168 * EvyLah * (+0) 01:32:02 [[User:Almostahexagon]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123170 * EvyLah * (+20) Created page with "please add something" 01:32:33 -!- ais523 has joined. 01:32:41 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123171&oldid=123169 * EvyLah * (+28) 01:33:01 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123172&oldid=123171 * EvyLah * (+0) 01:33:26 [[MCA]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123173&oldid=123172 * EvyLah * (+23) forgetting to include summaries so here you go 01:34:34 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123174&oldid=123173 * EvyLah * (-3) 01:35:29 [[MCA]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123175&oldid=123174 * EvyLah * (+0) 01:38:17 somehow that edit summary is more useless than five edits without summary would be 01:43:40 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 01:44:15 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 01:45:02 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 01:52:14 [[A very minimal esolang with a very few amount of instructions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123176&oldid=119314 * EvyLah * (+126) 01:53:48 [[A very minimal esolang with a very few amount of instructions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123177&oldid=123176 * EvyLah * (+3) 01:57:44 [[You are swine you vulgar little maggot]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123178 * EvyLah * (+5497) Created page with "The "You are swine you vulgar little maggot" rant goes like this: :You are swine you vulgar little maggot. Don't you know that you are pathetic? You worthless bag of filth. As we say in California, I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a 01:58:17 [[You are swine you vulgar little maggot]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123179&oldid=123178 * EvyLah * (+92) 02:00:19 [[You are swine you vulgar little maggot]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123180&oldid=123179 * EvyLah * (+2) 02:27:23 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[You are swine you vulgar little maggot]]": offtopic (not an esolang) and probably also a copyright violation don't link to a version hosted on this wiki, use an external link instead 02:29:48 [[User talk:EvyLah]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123181&oldid=122554 * Ais523 * (+616) /* You can't post large blocks of text copied from elsewhere on this wiki */ new section 02:34:48 [[User talk:Fizzie]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123182&oldid=107876 * Ais523 * (+599) /* Is the Orange Bar of Doom working? */ new section 02:44:39 [[User talk:Fizzie]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123183&oldid=123182 * Fizzie * (+612) /* Is the Orange Bar of Doom working? */ Maybe. 02:47:56 [[User talk:Fizzie]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123184&oldid=123183 * Ais523 * (+541) /* Is the Orange Bar of Doom working? */ opinions on Echo 03:45:34 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:46:48 -!- ais523 has joined. 06:44:52 -!- chiselfuse has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:45:17 -!- chiselfuse has joined. 07:28:02 -!- Koen_ has joined. 07:37:09 [[Scratcholang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123185&oldid=122421 * PikaboyPlaysGames * (-48) /* External Resources */ 07:45:08 [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123186&oldid=122933 * PikaboyPlaysGames * (+63) /* Scratch 3.0 */ 07:46:41 [[Scratcholang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123187&oldid=123185 * PikaboyPlaysGames * (+4) 07:53:25 -!- tromp has joined. 08:30:09 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 08:39:09 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:46:09 [[Esolang:About]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123188&oldid=84786 * B jonas * (+51) 09:39:42 -!- __monty__ has joined. 09:40:37 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…). 13:42:07 [[Snake Shit]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123189&oldid=93551 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+941) Rectified the example Test x10, which would print test elevent times, as well as the number guessing program, and supplemented an approximate mirror-machine implementation. 13:43:38 [[Snake Shit]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123190&oldid=123189 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+256) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Snake Shit programming language on GitHub and supplemented several category tags. 13:46:50 [[Snake Shit]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123191&oldid=123190 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+138) Improved the command table by supplementing the missing argument description to the character printing # instruction and mentioning that the input command & modifies the snake's length. 14:08:57 -!- tromp has joined. 14:36:19 [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123192&oldid=123129 * PaxtonPenguin * (+199) 14:56:21 -!- perlbot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1 - https://znc.in). 14:56:21 -!- simcop2387 has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1 - https://znc.in). 15:01:37 -!- simcop2387 has joined. 15:03:08 -!- perlbot has joined. 15:13:06 [[JustWords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123193&oldid=123152 * AnotherUser05 * (+499) 15:25:17 -!- Sgeo has joined. 15:37:43 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 16:04:32 [[JustWords]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123194&oldid=123193 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+81) Categories 16:12:39 [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123195&oldid=123186 * AnotherUser05 * (+44) 16:21:00 [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123196&oldid=123195 * AnotherUser05 * (+1) 16:21:47 [[Brainfuck constants/Ordered]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123197&oldid=108893 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+30) Back 16:22:34 [[Ice box]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123198&oldid=123150 * AnotherUser05 * (+47) 16:52:56 [[User:AnotherUser05]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123199&oldid=122586 * AnotherUser05 * (+39) 16:56:21 -!- tromp has joined. 17:02:56 [[JustWords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123200&oldid=123194 * AnotherUser05 * (+397) 17:03:41 [[User talk:AnotherUser05]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123201 * AnotherUser05 * (+4) Created page with "talk" 17:25:05 [[Sword]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123202 * AnotherUser05 * (+274) Created page with "{{wrongtitle|title=---|===>}} ==Introduction== '''---|===>''' is an esolang created by [[User:AnotherUser05]], which uses swords. The number of - corresponds to a command, and the number of = corresponds to an input. ==Com 18:16:56 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…). 00:16:39 [[Threader]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123217 * B3stc0der * (+190) ~~~~ 00:20:50 [[Rooms]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123218&oldid=123154 * BestCoder * (+13) /* Auto Run what you are holding */ 00:44:53 -!- another_user05 has joined. 00:50:58 -!- another_user05 has quit (Quit: Client closed). 01:44:21 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 01:44:42 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 01:45:43 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 02:09:06 [[User talk:EvyLah]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123219&oldid=123181 * EvyLah * (+132) 02:10:31 [[A very minimal esolang with a very few amount of instructions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123220&oldid=123177 * EvyLah * (-4) 02:14:11 [[A very minimal esolang with a very few amount of instructions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123221&oldid=123220 * EvyLah * (+331) 02:23:56 [[Wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123222 * AnotherUser05 * (+1946) Created page with "{| class="wikitable" |+ this is a joke lang |- ! command !! what it does |- | Wiki/ || start of program |- | wiki/ || middle of program |- | wiki|| end of program |} ==examples== Wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki 02:24:40 [[Wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123223&oldid=123222 * AnotherUser05 * (-2) 02:25:24 [[User:AnotherUser05]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123224&oldid=123211 * AnotherUser05 * (+37) 02:40:44 [[Snake Shit]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123225&oldid=123203 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+0) Rectified the guessing number program's statement, which claimed to select a number in the range [0, 95], to the interval [0, 94], as the random choice command ? utilizes its argument as an exclusive upper bound. 03:18:44 [[VTFF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123226&oldid=72257 * Nomad * (+209) Added VTFF one-line interpreter and added new 'Interpreter' section. 03:19:02 [[VTFF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123227&oldid=123226 * Nomad * (+1) /* Interpreter */ 03:19:35 [[VTFF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123228&oldid=123227 * Nomad * (+0) /* Interpreter */ 06:19:13 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123229 * EvyLah * (+1379) Created page with "'''Code your own instructions, lazyass''' is an esoteric programming language where you have to code in the instructions. == Coding instructions === You have to start any Code your own instructions, lazyass program by coding in the instructio 06:19:25 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123230&oldid=123229 * EvyLah * (-1) 06:19:47 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123231&oldid=123230 * EvyLah * (+26) 06:21:02 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123232&oldid=123231 * EvyLah * (+167) 06:21:53 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123233&oldid=123232 * EvyLah * (+72) 06:36:01 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123234&oldid=123233 * EvyLah * (+1501) 06:40:22 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123235&oldid=123234 * EvyLah * (+582) 06:44:30 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123236&oldid=123235 * EvyLah * (+1159) 06:45:18 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123237&oldid=123236 * EvyLah * (+39) 06:45:37 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123238&oldid=123237 * EvyLah * (+31) 06:46:12 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123239&oldid=123238 * EvyLah * (-23) 06:54:31 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123240&oldid=123239 * EvyLah * (+752) 06:56:06 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123241&oldid=123240 * EvyLah * (+123) 06:56:20 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123242&oldid=123241 * EvyLah * (-32) 06:57:02 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123243&oldid=123242 * EvyLah * (+16) 07:02:26 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123244&oldid=123243 * EvyLah * (+548) 07:03:06 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123245&oldid=123244 * EvyLah * (-99) 07:03:12 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123246&oldid=123245 * EvyLah * (-32) 07:04:36 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123247&oldid=123246 * EvyLah * (-23) 07:05:35 [[Code your own instructions, lazyass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123248&oldid=123247 * EvyLah * (+3) 07:07:04 [[A very minimal esolang with a very few amount of instructions]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123249&oldid=123221 * EvyLah * (+103) 07:25:14 [[Nope.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123250&oldid=122700 * EvyLah * (-27) /* AsciiDots */ 07:25:29 [[Nope.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123251&oldid=123250 * EvyLah * (-2) 07:26:22 [[Nope.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123252&oldid=123251 * EvyLah * (+29) 07:26:39 [[Nope.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123253&oldid=123252 * EvyLah * (+4) /* AsciiDots */ 07:47:12 -!- chiselfuse has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:48:08 -!- chiselfuse has joined. 07:51:18 -!- tromp has joined. 07:54:37 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 08:35:38 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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22:07:23  [[Assembly Line]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123269&oldid=123268 * EvyLah * (+6) 
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22:17:15  [[Assembly Line]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123273&oldid=123272 * EvyLah * (-19) 
22:21:26  [[Assembly Line]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123274&oldid=123273 * EvyLah * (+335) 
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23:18:58  [[User:EvyLah]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123278&oldid=122553 * EvyLah * (+86) 
23:24:47  [[User:EvyLah]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123279&oldid=123278 * EvyLah * (+42) 
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00:32:07  [[MCA]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123281&oldid=123175 * EvyLah * (+35) jmp to IFF -> halt cpu
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06:37:56  I invented a bitmap font format that can have up to 65536 characters and variable sizes, and a program to convert bdf into this format. (It is simpler than pcf and results in smaller files even though it is not compressed. However, it does have commands for ligature/kerning but those commands are optional to be implemented (and you can easily skip over unrecognized commands that are optional to be implemented).)
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11:58:47  64k is too small for Unicode.
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14:16:44  [[Totrandom]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123283 * Username1234 * (+1120) Created page with "== Brief Introduction ==  '''Totrandom''' is a totally random joke language.  The program contains only a number and anything other than a number will be concerned as a SYNTAX ERROR.  The number means the length of the output, and the program will output a random
14:17:03  [[User:Username1234]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123284&oldid=106068 * Username1234 * (+16) 
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21:57:57  [[Special:Log/newusers]] create  * ClassicHasClass *  New user account
22:01:24  [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123294&oldid=123159 * ClassicHasClass * (+405) hello from ClassicHasClass
22:02:29  [[User:ClassicHasClass]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123295 * ClassicHasClass * (+100) Created page with "I like vintage computing, and esolangs have been part of vintage computing since at least the 1970s."
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04:08:49  I know 64k is too small for Unicode. It is also too small for TRON code. However, it is big enough for a single plane of Unicode or TRON code, so you can have multiple files for multiple planes. (Later I could add a way to add multiple TRON planes into a single file, possibly)
04:14:03  (It can be used with small character sets too, though)
04:15:35  Just use surrogates, they're great! ... said noone ever.
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16:11:49  [[Assembly line]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123298 * EvyLah * (+27) Redirected page to [[Assembly Line]]
16:30:25  [[Laser Pointer]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123299 * AnotherUser05 * (+1151) Created page with "'''Laser Pointer''' is a 2D esolang created by [[User:AnotherUser05]].  ==Syntax==   Lasers actiavte anything that touches it.   > Laser shooter (right)  < Laser shooter (left)  v Laser shooter (down)  ^ Laser shooter (up)  / Mirror  \ Mirror  ! Activates th
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16:38:02  [[User:EvyLah]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123301&oldid=123280 * EvyLah * (+48) 
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17:50:28  [[Talk:Broken Calculator]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123305&oldid=117291 * Mercerenies * (+1009) turing completeness discussion
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18:18:31  [[Rooms]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123306&oldid=123259 * Yourusername * (+80) /* Data */
18:19:17  [[Data]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123307&oldid=123289 * Yourusername * (+1) /* Data */
18:27:21  [[Refer]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123308&oldid=123127 * Yourusername * (+544) 
18:29:45  [[Refer]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123309&oldid=123308 * Yourusername * (+146) /* Goto */
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19:00:51  [[Marblepunk]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123311&oldid=123310 * Mkukiro * (-885) 
19:02:25  [[Laser Pointer]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123312&oldid=123304 * AnotherUser05 * (+0) /* Syntax */
19:03:20  [[Laser Pointer]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123313&oldid=123312 * AnotherUser05 * (-2) /* Syntax */
19:42:31  [[Laser Pointer]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123314&oldid=123313 * AnotherUser05 * (+24) 
19:46:08  [[Laser Pointer]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123315&oldid=123314 * AnotherUser05 * (+9) /* Syntax */
19:48:03  [[Laser Pointer]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123316&oldid=123315 * AnotherUser05 * (+57) /* Syntax */
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19:56:20  [[Ice box]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123318&oldid=123198 * AnotherUser05 * (+66) 
19:56:57  [[Laser Pointer]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123319&oldid=123317 * AnotherUser05 * (+97) 
20:03:40  [[Laser Pointer]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123320&oldid=123319 * AnotherUser05 * (+47) /* Syntax */
20:18:23  [[Talk:My Whole Life]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123321 * EvyLah * (+561) /* Examples? */ new section
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20:29:59  [[Wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/wiki/]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123323&oldid=123322 * AnotherUser05 * (+3) 
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21:40:00  [[User:AnotherUser05]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123325&oldid=123303 * AnotherUser05 * (+7) 
22:08:47  [[Not finite loop]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123326 * AnotherUser05 * (+618) Created page with "{{Distinguish/Confusion|Not finite loop}}  Yeah, this esolang basically includes lots of ways to make not finite loops.   [] This is a basic not finite loop. This loops everything inside forever.    < This sends the cursor back to the begining of the progra
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23:11:10  [[ITMR]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123328&oldid=123327 * Alanmalan * (+76) 
23:12:07  [[ITMR]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123329&oldid=123328 * Alanmalan * (+1) 
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02:41:27  [[User:AnotherUser05]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123331&oldid=123325 * AnotherUser05 * (+31) 
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06:19:19  I have almost made up a bitmap font with TRON plane 0x21; I will just need to add the 6-dot braille and 8-dot braille manually, and then test it.
06:20:24  (I wrote a program which can make a font by combining others, with remapping, as well as manual characters, adding comments, etc)
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11:57:18  [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123333&oldid=123294 * Spoonbill * (+219) /* Introductions */
11:57:26  [[Robotic smiley face]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123334&oldid=113599 * Spoonbill * (+1) very slight grammar corrections
12:46:16  [[Translated Batch]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123335 * MihaiEso * (+4966) Created page with "'''Translated Batch''' is a esolang made by Mihai Popa. It's Batch but horribly translated by ModernMT (however you can add more or choose a another pair of translators for a even more horrible translation!)  Steps: 1. Take this program (as a example): 
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12:47:12  [[Translated VBS]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123336&oldid=119492 * MihaiEso * (+22) 
12:47:22  [[Translated CSharp]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123337&oldid=119494 * MihaiEso * (+22) 
12:47:34  [[Translated Python]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123338&oldid=119493 * MihaiEso * (+22) 
12:47:54  [[Translated Julia]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123339&oldid=119491 * MihaiEso * (+22) 
12:51:47  [[Joke language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123340&oldid=123285 * MihaiEso * (+398) /* Error simulators */
13:07:18  [[User:Shamrocky]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123341&oldid=123070 * Shamrocky * (+72) /* Favorite Entries */
13:09:15  [[User:Shamrocky]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123342&oldid=123341 * Shamrocky * (+41) /* About Me */
13:09:23  [[User:Shamrocky]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123343&oldid=123342 * Shamrocky * (-41) /* About Me */
13:23:34  [[User:Shamrocky]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123344&oldid=123343 * Shamrocky * (+8) 
13:23:53  [[User:Shamrocky]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123345&oldid=123344 * Shamrocky * (+21) 
13:24:43  [[User:Shamrocky]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123346&oldid=123345 * Shamrocky * (+22) 
14:58:04  [[Laser Pointer]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123347&oldid=123320 * AnotherUser05 * (-47) /* Syntax */
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15:23:07  [[Three Star Programmer]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123348&oldid=118052 * DivergentClouds * (-105) Fixed description of example, as it was for the Noisy 3SP variant and also is not limited to ASCII
16:01:27  [[Not finite loop]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123349&oldid=123326 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+109) Categories
16:06:00  [[Oxon]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123350&oldid=109014 * A casual user * (-2973) Decided that a tutorial on this wasn't necessary and removed the unfinished tutorial, then made the text more concise (though it is still terribly hard to understand, sorry about that).
16:11:48  [[Laser Pointer]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123351&oldid=123347 * AnotherUser05 * (+16) 
16:13:59  [[Laser Pointer]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123352&oldid=123351 * AnotherUser05 * (+66) 
16:23:24  [[Random-ass Turing Complete Language]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123353&oldid=122297 * EvyLah * (-46) /* Control flow */
16:41:17  [[Three Star Programmer]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123354&oldid=123348 * DivergentClouds * (+83) added my zig interpreter to External Resources
16:45:39  [[FXYT]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123355&oldid=121069 * Susam * (+44) Replace backquotes with  tags
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21:18:58  [[Lightswitch]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123357&oldid=118404 * Kaveh Yousefi * (-30) Rectified the cat program's incomplete p3 toggle instruction.
21:21:07  [[Lightswitch]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123358&oldid=123357 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+211) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Lightswitch programming language on GitHub and supplemented the category tag Implemented.
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22:17:53  [[User:Shamrocky]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123360&oldid=123356 * Shamrocky * (+14) /* Bayonetta */
22:19:18  [[User:Shamrocky]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123361&oldid=123360 * Shamrocky * (+115) /* Silent Hill 3 */
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22:27:43  [[Hellhole]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123362 * Codeguy9 * (+630) Created page with "Hellhole is a programming language I developed using [[thue]]that compiles to [[brainfuck]] you can find it [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JcX81E9WdvMuM4-C-XHb1Ln7-p3u5t_l/view?usp=drivesdk here] for the code snack IDE app you can interpret it with your favorite int
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23:36:32  [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123364&oldid=123333 * Blik * (+198) /* Introductions */
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02:02:43  [[Captive]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123365 * Rottytooth * (+4128) New language: Captive
02:03:45  [[User:Rottytooth]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123366&oldid=58389 * Rottytooth * (-34) added language
03:53:56  [[LottoScript]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123367 * Imakesi * (+1028) Created page with "LottoScript is an esolang with five randomized commands:  {| class="wikitable" |+ Commands |- ! Command !! Name !! Function |- | Add || [ADD] || Add 1, or 10 (see later at EXR) to the cell |- | Subtract || [SUB] || Remove 1, or 10 (ditto) from the cell |- | Append |
03:54:42  [[LottoScript]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123368&oldid=123367 * Imakesi * (+2) 
03:55:06  [[LottoScript]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123369&oldid=123368 * Imakesi * (+0) 
03:56:39  [[LottoScript]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123370&oldid=123369 * Imakesi * (+197) 
04:00:26  [[LottoScript]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123371&oldid=123370 * Imakesi * (+189) 
04:03:08  [[LottoScript]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123372&oldid=123371 * Imakesi * (+1109) 
04:03:23  [[LottoScript]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123373&oldid=123372 * Imakesi * (-4) 
04:05:05  [[LottoScript]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123374&oldid=123373 * Imakesi * (-32) 
04:05:49  [[LottoScript]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123375&oldid=123374 * Imakesi * (+21) 
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07:28:49  so a problem I'm kind-of stuck on at the moment: given a directed acyclic graph, determine whether or not there are two different paths connecting the same two points
07:28:57  it's easy to do in quadratic time, but I'm wondering whether it can be done faster
07:29:17  (these are directed paths, otherwise it'd be easy)
07:30:08  actually, I'm less interested in the problem itself and more interested in what sort of data structure solves it
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08:50:47  ais523: do you need two paths that are merely different, or edge-disjoint, or node-disjoint?
08:51:35  b_jonas: merely different – although all the definitions are the same because it's not "between two particular points" but "between any two points"
08:51:57  so if there are two paths between A and B that both go through C, for example, there are also two paths from either A to C or C to B
08:52:18  (or both)
08:52:42  so if it can be done with two arbitrary paths, it can also be done with two node-disjoint (apart from the endpoints) paths
08:52:46  oh, between any two points
08:54:07  between two particular points is easy I think, just do a tsort to see which point comes earlier, then a BFS from the earlier point that counts the number of paths from that point to each other point
08:54:16  yeah, any two points sounds less trivial
08:54:22  (my quadratic-time algorithm is doing that starting from every point)
08:54:55  (or, well, skipping the ones that are downstream of a point you've already checked)
08:55:04  (but that doesn't change the computational complexity)
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13:54:17  [[Captive]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123376&oldid=123365 * Rottytooth * (+1136) Cleaned up wording and styling
14:05:51  [[Captive]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123377&oldid=123376 * Rottytooth * (+294) Added notes to command table
14:10:19  [[Captive]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123378&oldid=123377 * Rottytooth * (+253) Added to do list
14:17:20  [[Captive]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123379&oldid=123378 * Rottytooth * (+3) /* Constants */
14:26:14  [[Captive]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123380&oldid=123379 * Rottytooth * (+1) /* Concept */
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14:36:54  [[User:Rottytooth]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123381&oldid=123366 * Rottytooth * (+169) 
14:38:15  [[Captive]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123382&oldid=123380 * Rottytooth * (+303) /* Moby Dick */
15:09:01  [[Pathfollow]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123383 * AnotherUser05 * (+610) Created page with "'''Pathfollow''' is an esolang invented by [[User:AnotherUser05]].  ==Commands==   @ start of IP  | IP follows this vertically  - IP follows this horizontally  + corner turn  ^ one ways  0-9 add to value  ; get an input and add it to the value  : output the c
15:27:32  [[Captive]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123384&oldid=123382 * Rottytooth * (+77) /* To Do */
15:44:29  [[Pathfollow]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123385&oldid=123383 * AnotherUser05 * (+354) 
15:45:41  [[Pathfollow]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123386&oldid=123385 * AnotherUser05 * (+22) /* Commands */
15:46:17  [[User:AnotherUser05]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123387&oldid=123331 * AnotherUser05 * (+27) 
15:46:29  [[User:AnotherUser05]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123388&oldid=123387 * AnotherUser05 * (-1) 
15:47:41  [[Pathfollow]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123389&oldid=123386 * AnotherUser05 * (+59) 
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16:47:40  [[Captive]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123390&oldid=123384 * Rottytooth * (-6) /* Example Programs */
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18:01:41  [[Rooms]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123391&oldid=123306 * Yourusername * (+128) /* Return */
18:02:03  [[Rooms]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123392&oldid=123391 * Yourusername * (+7) /* Run with Args */
18:03:41  [[Rooms]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123393&oldid=123392 * Yourusername * (+44) /* Run with Args */
18:04:44  [[Rooms]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123394&oldid=123393 * Yourusername * (+78) /* Pickup */
18:05:39  [[Rooms]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123395&oldid=123394 * Yourusername * (+34) /* Place */
18:05:50  [[Rooms]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123396&oldid=123395 * Yourusername * (+0) /* Pickup */
18:08:23  [[Rooms]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123397&oldid=123396 * Yourusername * (+198) /* Delete */
18:08:53  [[Rooms]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123398&oldid=123397 * Yourusername * (+1) /* Auto Run what you are holding */
18:09:17  [[Rooms]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123399&oldid=123398 * Yourusername * (+0) /* Data */
18:12:14  [[Rooms]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123400&oldid=123399 * Yourusername * (-3) /* Split */
18:14:28  [[Rooms]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123401&oldid=123400 * Yourusername * (+76) /* Split */
18:15:10  [[Rooms]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123402&oldid=123401 * Yourusername * (+18) /* Split */
18:18:26  [[Rooms]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123403&oldid=123402 * Yourusername * (+19) /* Rooms */
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18:25:36  [[Rooms]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123410&oldid=123409 * Yourusername * (+79) /* Examples */
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18:41:06  ais523: interesting question. I'm trying to think about the restricted version where the digraph doesn't have 3 long directed paths, so there are just three layers and you want to find two length 2 directed paths with the same start and endpoint.
19:08:53  Oh man, someone mentioned N Step Steve and my save file is apparently gone.
19:08:59  Which is what I expect from browser-based things.
19:19:12  More browser-based things should have a save game export/import facility so you can put them in just regular files if they're important.
19:57:42  Right.
19:57:48  Though I'd rather this just not be a browser-based thing.
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20:24:36  [[Pathfollow]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123415&oldid=123414 * AnotherUser05 * (+15) /* Truth Machine */
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20:36:58  [[Hello, golf!]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123417&oldid=105418 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+160) Categories
20:47:39  [[Entropy]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123418&oldid=84666 * Rottytooth * (-81) Removed dead links, added link to project site
20:58:52  I made up a font, now. (I think some other people on here have also made up a font.)
21:00:59  It includes JIS X 0213, JIS X 0212, GB 2312, KS C 5601, 6-dot Braille, and 8-dot Braille. However, only the braille is my own glyphs; the others are from other sources
21:02:55  (I also put them together in one font; previously they were separated by several fonts)
21:34:29  zzo38: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Font
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23:40:03  b_jonas: Thank you. However, what I made is a bit different from those, and has a different format, and is mostly combined from other fonts (the file which was used to control the combination is available too). (It might be possible to write a converter into pcf and other bitmap font formats, although I have not done so.)
23:40:30  The file which controls the conversion is:  https://raw.githubusercontent.com/zzo38/scorpion/trunk/gui/font/T0021_16x16.make
23:41:31  (Change the end from ".make" to ".font" to download the font file itself. The program that makes the conversion, and documentation of the file format, are also available.)
23:44:44  Also, why is the "Font" article with the categories, which it would probably only be applicable for programming languages? (I doubt any category is actually appropriate, in this case)

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00:17:46  zzo38: because I added the categories and nobody removed them yet
00:18:01  if you don't think they're appropirate you can delete them
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05:12:24  [[Random-ass Turing Complete Language]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123419&oldid=123353 * EvyLah * (-56) hello world program works ok
05:13:45  [[MCA]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123420&oldid=123281 * EvyLah * (-18) brilliant spelling by me fixed
05:40:51  [[MCA]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123421&oldid=123420 * EvyLah * (+2618) 
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06:04:10  int-e: Wow, some of these N Step Steve Part 2 puzzles are hard!
06:04:12  I forgot.
06:04:47  I mean, I just restarted.
06:05:02  And finally did 13,21 again.
06:08:30  Some of these are really good, I kind of forgot.
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10:14:14  shachaf: well I still have the map so I don't have to replay it. :-P
10:15:46  shachaf: and the screenshots I have in the map include hints: https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/steve-13-21.png
10:21:55  (actually I don't know which of the steve games that is from)
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10:24:10  ais523: so I can solve the special case of your problem where no directed path in your DAG is longer than 2 (so the DAG only has three components, with all arcs going from an upper component to a lower one), but I don't see if this solution generalizes.
10:26:11  ais523: say you have a DAG with just three colors, upper, middle, and lower, with edges going from upper to middle, or middle to lower, or upper to lower. the DAG has O(n) edges and nodes. first, find all nodes in the middle color only that have an indegree higher than n**(1/2), and call these nodes fat. there must be at most n**(1/2) fat nodes.
10:27:39  now for each fat node separately, you can do two graph traversals to see if there's two paths between the same two point where one path goes through that fat point, each such traversal costs n**(1+o(1)) and you do this at most n**(1/2) times so that's n**(3/2+o(1)) time.
10:29:56  then from each starting node you can do a search to find if there are two paths to the same destination starting from that node, except when you do this, don't continue to search from fat nodes. if you do the search this way, you reach each middle node from at most n**(1/2) starting point, and so follow each arc at most n**(1/2) times, so all these
10:29:56  searches together must take at most n**(3/2+o(1)) time, and they find any double path where neither of them go through a fat point.
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11:01:52  wib_jonas: ooh, that's clever – subquadratic but superlinear
11:03:06  I keep forgetting that there are valid computational complexities between O(n log^k n) and O(n^2)
11:22:15  I need to go to bed, so I'm not sure I've got this right, but: it may be possible to generalize it via splitting the graph into two halves (with no edges from the latter half to the former half), then recursing on both halves to see if there are any two-paths within one half, then using your algorithm on the edges that go between the two paths
11:22:46  not 100% sure this comes out as subquadratic but I think it does
11:23:35  * the edges that go between the two halves
11:25:17  actually I suspect I've got this wrong, the part of the proof where you count the number of starting nodes doesn't generalize properly
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13:02:34  [[User:Shamrocky]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123423&oldid=123361 * Shamrocky * (+4) rearranged the interests section alphabetically, also added the "Class of '09" Section, also unbolded and decapitalized kaito in the vocaloid section
13:05:05  [[User:Shamrocky]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123424&oldid=123423 * Shamrocky * (+283) forgot to add the Class of '09 section
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13:12:58  [[User:Shamrocky]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123431&oldid=123430 * Shamrocky * (+24) /* Interests */ Added Indents
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14:49:46  [[Talk:Circle of Life]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123439 * Shamrocky * (+92) Created page with "This is my first language I probably made a lot of errors lol - [[User:Shamrocky|Shamrocky]]"
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15:49:38  [[Joke language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123444&oldid=123437 * Shamrocky * (-67) /* General languages */  Decided that [[Circle of Life]] was better as a serious language
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15:55:38  [[FatFinger]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123447 * Rottytooth * (+1128) Added FatFinger stub
15:58:28  [[User:Rottytooth]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123448&oldid=123381 * Rottytooth * (+23) added FatFinger
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16:20:54  [[ITMR]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123449&oldid=123329 * Alanmalan * (+9) 
16:21:04  [[Talk:Code your own instructions, lazyass]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123450 * EvyLah * (+309) /* Categorization? */ new section
16:22:01  [[Talk:Code your own instructions, lazyass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123451&oldid=123450 * EvyLah * (-18) should not be using category
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16:27:58  int-e: That one is from part 2.
16:28:16  It's great.
16:33:41  [[User:Shamrocky]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123453&oldid=123431 * Shamrocky * (+21) /* Unimplemented */
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16:42:19  [[Circle of Life]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123455&oldid=123454 * Shamrocky * (+8) /* Errors */  Lengthened error codes in preparation for sub-errors
16:44:55  [[Circle of Life]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123456&oldid=123455 * Shamrocky * (+85) /* Intricacies and Nuance */
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17:06:19  b_jonas: OK, so a good counterexample for this two-paths-between-two-points problem seems to be the graph used by FFTs (which has edges from (a, b) to (a, b+1) and (a xor (1< that contains at most one path between any two points, and is symmetrical, so I think it implies that your construction doesn't generalise
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17:12:08  ais523: hmm, so the nodes have just 2 indegree and 2 outdegree, but every node has either Omega(n) ancestors or Omega(n) descendants so you can't hope to traverse up or down from them fast
17:14:25  right
17:14:55  I probably chose the wrong special case to try to solve first
17:16:43  it's a good special case, though – and I was also trying to see if that one worked, first
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17:25:49  [[Talk:Folders]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123458&oldid=107384 * Rottytooth * (+118) /* Umm this actually (and obviously) is not 0 byte code */
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17:45:05  [[Circle of Life]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123459&oldid=123456 * Shamrocky * (+92) /* Example Programs */  Minor Progress on a 2-func calculator
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18:02:30  [[Circle of Life]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123461&oldid=123460 * Shamrocky * (+117) /* Basic Functions */  Added Add and Sub functions
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18:22:46  [[Circle of Life]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123467&oldid=123466 * Shamrocky * (+401) /* 2 Function Calculator */  Finished Calculator
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18:52:54  int-e: Oh man, remember 14,19?
19:09:54  [[Graphene]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123471 * Baltdev * (+5841) Created page with "== Graphene ==  Graphene is an esoteric programming language created by ~~~ in 2024. The program structure is defined by an arbitrary graph structure.  === Layout === A program is laid out as a graph with nodes and edges.  At the start of the file, an Exit node must be
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20:19:22  shachaf: kind of but not really
20:21:00  shachaf: was there a star in there, above the wall?
20:22:51  Uh, I'm already out of the room, I should have taken a screenshot.
20:23:42  shachaf: https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/random_steve.png is what I have
20:24:24  but my screenshots tend to not show stars
20:25:20  Oh, yes, that one.
20:25:35  The star was above the wall in the top right, yes.
20:26:00  I do remember thinking it was impossible to get.
20:26:38  We both did, and then we both figured it out.
20:26:46  And now I don't remember how it went.
20:27:34  I don't remember exactly. But I do remember what the logical mistake was.
20:35:06  I don't think I can figure the details out without playing the game again.
20:35:25  Christmas 2022. Hmm.
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02:47:03  [[Deadfish]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123492&oldid=122896 * Nomad * (+593) /* Implementations */
03:14:06  [[User:BoundedBeans]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123493&oldid=123080 * BoundedBeans * (+202) Added c-intercal easy link
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07:34:42  int-e: I went back to this and got that star after a while.
07:34:55  Even with a pretty good idea of what I wanted to do it was quite tricky.
07:52:09  shachaf: right, there is a component to puzzle solving that is just exploring the state space... that's the part where I'd have to actually replay the level.
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09:51:27  [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123494&oldid=87659 * Tastyfish * (-1) it's -> its
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11:17:09  [[InternationalFuck]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123496&oldid=123495 * TeslaX93 * (+78) 
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14:18:08  [[BFInfinity]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123498&oldid=123497 * Cleverxia * (+938) More commands
14:18:40  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123499&oldid=123498 * Cleverxia * (+3) /* Commands */
14:20:04  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123500&oldid=123499 * Cleverxia * (+15) /* Commands */
14:23:09  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123501&oldid=123500 * Cleverxia * (+0) FUCK!
14:29:32  [[User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123502&oldid=121505 * Cleverxia * (+171) /* Commands */
14:49:57  [[BFInfinity]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123503&oldid=123501 * Cleverxia * (+46) /* brainfuck interpreter */
14:52:38  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123504&oldid=123503 * Cleverxia * (+33) /* Cheating Quine */
14:52:53  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123505&oldid=123504 * Cleverxia * (+1) /* Cheating Quine */
15:02:04  [[Pathfollow]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123506&oldid=123416 * AnotherUser05 * (+6) /* Not Finite Loop */
15:21:45  [[Not finite Ioop]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123507 * AnotherUser05 * (+727) Created page with "{{Distinguish/Confusion|Not finite loop}}  Yeah, this esolang basically includes lots of ways to make not finite loops.   [] This is a basic not finite loop. This loops everything inside forever.    < This sends the cursor back to the begining of the progra
15:21:59  [[Not finite loop]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123508&oldid=123349 * AnotherUser05 * (+0) 
15:23:18  [[Folders]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123509&oldid=121996 * Rottytooth * (-10) /* Previous Versions */
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15:44:04  ais523: the graph paths question it would probably be worth to post onto  cstheory.stackexchange.com
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17:23:46  [[Circle of Life]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123510&oldid=123474 * Shamrocky * (+0) 
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18:05:47  [[Joke language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123511&oldid=123444 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+44) /* General languages */ add
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18:48:16  [[Circle of Life]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123512&oldid=123510 * Shamrocky * (+1) 
18:52:11  b_jonas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2qael0G3i4 is insane :) (shapez blueprint TAS)
19:08:49  int-e: oh wow, that seems to be done quite well, at least from what it does in the start
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19:13:02  hehe, does a countdown at the end
19:14:51  nice, thank you for the link
19:15:50  the countdown was a nice touch, yeah :)
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19:19:04  I'd kind of like to know how many events this has. Hard to eyeball. Oh well :-)
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20:52:17  [[Truth-machine]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123513&oldid=123196 * ApisNecros * (+40) Add Starfish implementation
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21:27:07  [[Mailman]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123514&oldid=66216 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+65) Formatting, categories
21:36:55  [[SolboScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123515&oldid=92238 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+100) Categories
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21:38:46  [[Graphene]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123516&oldid=123478 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+23) Category
21:42:07  [[FatFinger]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123517&oldid=123488 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+18) Link to [[AutoCorrect]]
21:42:36  [[AutoCorrect]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123518&oldid=116655 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+30) See also
21:51:00  [[Shortstack]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123519&oldid=123486 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+178) Categories
21:55:49  [[Circle of Life]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123520&oldid=123512 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-26) Underscores, formatting, categories
21:56:34  [[Clickclang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123521&oldid=106551 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-20) Categories
21:57:09  [[MindVomit]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123522&oldid=104831 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+5) Categories
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00:41:41  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123523&oldid=123505 * Cleverxia * (+552) /* Commands */
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02:29:35  [[User:Cleverxia]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123525 * Cleverxia * (+116) Created page with "==Current Esolangs I've created== * [[ bytes :3]] * [[Nanofunge]] Nopfunge minimalsation * I forgot * And more...."
03:38:36  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123526&oldid=123524 * Cleverxia * (+24) fork bomb
03:51:07  [[BFInfinity]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123527&oldid=123526 * Cleverxia * (+559) /* Commands */
05:55:16  How to display the coordinates of a part of a picture of a video in VLC? Can the exact frame number be displayed, too?
06:55:29  [[Brainfuck]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123528&oldid=121955 * None1 * (+42) 
06:55:43  [[Hello, golf!]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123529&oldid=123422 * None1 * (+23) /* See also */
06:56:33  [[MCA]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123530&oldid=123421 * EvyLah * (+183) output?
06:57:47  [[Hello, golf!]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123531&oldid=123529 * None1 * (+0) lowercase
06:58:03  [[Brainfuck]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123532&oldid=123528 * None1 * (+13) lowercase
07:04:54  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123533&oldid=123527 * None1 * (+532) Remember to write your username in the "Creator" column
07:07:59  [[User:None1]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123534&oldid=122955 * None1 * (+52) /* My Accounts */
07:30:55  [[In Your JSON]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123535&oldid=123479 * None1 * (+182) Undo revision 123479 by [[Special:Contributions/Cocosbeans|Cocosbeans]] ([[User talk:Cocosbeans|talk]]) (Won't work because this is unordered)
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07:42:38  [[BFInfinity]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123537&oldid=123536 * None1 * (+0) /* Commands */
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07:46:23  [[User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123539&oldid=123538 * None1 * (+7) 
07:52:43  [[Graphene]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123540&oldid=123516 * None1 * (+0) /* Values */
08:08:09  [[BFInfinity]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123541&oldid=123537 * Cleverxia * (+225) 
08:12:57  [[BFInfinity]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123542&oldid=123541 * Cleverxia * (+76) set
08:17:34  [[BFInfinity]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123543&oldid=123542 * Cleverxia * (+715) Added set commands
08:19:30  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123544&oldid=123543 * Cleverxia * (+0) /* Base Specs */
08:21:39  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123545&oldid=123544 * Cleverxia * (+1006) /* Commands */
08:23:59  [[Interpret Esolangs Online]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123546&oldid=122927 * None1 * (-119) 
08:24:41  [[Talk:Interpret Esolangs Online]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123547&oldid=114818 * None1 * (+186) 
08:29:35  [[BFInfinity]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123548&oldid=123545 * Cleverxia * (+270) 
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12:35:13  [[BFInfinity]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123554&oldid=123553 * Cleverxia * (+389) /* Commands */
12:36:19  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123555&oldid=123554 * Cleverxia * (+39) /* Examples */
12:36:37  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123556&oldid=123555 * Cleverxia * (+1) /* random bit generator */
13:48:12  [[User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123557&oldid=123539 * Cleverxia * (+195) 
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14:06:53  [[Language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123559&oldid=123443 * None1 * (+17) /* B */
14:07:48  [[User:None1]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123560&oldid=123534 * None1 * (+98) /* My Esolangs */
14:09:37  [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A-M)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123561&oldid=122934 * None1 * (+196) /* brainfuck */
14:10:30  [[A+B Problem]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123562&oldid=122618 * None1 * (+30) /* brainfuck */
14:12:15  [[Brainfuck extensions]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123563&oldid=122136 * None1 * (+16) 
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17:40:37  [[MCA]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123564&oldid=123530 * EvyLah * (+79) MAKING MECOMP v1.1
17:42:05  [[Special:Log/move]] move  * EvyLah *  moved [[MCA]] to [[MCA (Old)]]: Making MCA v1.1, which is not the same
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21:09:55  [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123567&oldid=123364 * Michael * (+78) 
21:20:16  [[User:Michael]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123568 * Michael * (+55) Created page with "Hello, I am Michael (afmika), I love math and esolangs!"
21:21:30  [[User:Michael]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123569&oldid=123568 * Michael * (+13) 
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22:21:41  [[Spin4]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123571&oldid=123570 * Michael * (+8) 
22:27:57  [[Spin4]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123572&oldid=123571 * Michael * (+68) 
22:31:10  [[Language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123573&oldid=123559 * Michael * (+12) /* S */
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22:45:53  int-e: Hmm, did this game have a "cryptid tracker" before, or is that new?
22:48:11  shachaf: I don't remember one; I remember painstakingly going through all the rooms to look for those critters
22:49:48  I guess they added it.
22:50:05  Because I'm sure I would have noticed it in this room before.
22:50:17  which one?
22:51:35  14,9 maybe?
22:52:52  10,6
22:53:51  Hmm, I don't have a proper screenshot of that, only a telescope one, for some reason...
22:54:16  But that looked like this: https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/random_steve.png
22:54:47  Oh maybe it's because it's such a big room.
22:55:16  So I couldn't get all of it in one screenshot. But... hmm... no I don't remember seeing any device in there.
22:56:54  How many did you have in the end?
22:57:05  29
22:57:48  which is really 28+1 because 1 of them is very different from the rest.
22:58:52  https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/random_steve.png was my final map overview.
22:59:22  and you may see something odd in there.
23:01:33  (yeah I'm using the same file name... too lazy to come up with new ones)
23:03:18  Hmm, I don't know if I remember/found what you're talking about.
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23:05:11  shachaf: VVEP gur ynfg pelcgvq pna or sbhaq ol perngvat n qbhoyr jnec va gur yriry rqvgbe.
23:05:24  (spoiler, I don't know how to make that a hint)
23:06:34  I should've added... make sure you've found 28 cryptids first.
23:07:19  In this playthrough I'm at 18 kittens, 26 stars, 17 cryptids.
23:07:36  So I guess I won't rot13 that right now.
23:07:51  Is the special one at 1,1?
23:07:59  it's 4,4 but yeah
23:08:25  I forgot whether you can see that in the telescope or not.
23:08:57  Hmm, I see it in the cryptid tracker.
23:09:09  I also don't know whether you've rediscovered the telescope.
23:09:37  Yes, I don't think you can get this far without finding the telescope.
23:10:57  I wonder what I'm missing for this last star.
23:11:15  It's at 14,17. I know I had it before.
23:12:17  (Not asking for an answer, to be clear, just wondering.)
23:12:42  hmmmm screenshot doesn't help there?... oh it does actually, I have left myself one of those subtle hints ;-)
23:13:04  well, maybe.
23:13:31  Is it next to the monster at the top?
23:13:53  Yes.
23:14:03  https://shachaf.net /tmp/su/2024-02-17-151323_1304x1298.png
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23:15:00  Okay, then yes, I've left myself a hint. But that's not a solution. :)
23:15:08  So at first it was a mechanics question. I was pretty sure that the answer was to put a dead kitten facing right to the left of the star, and then push a flag under it.
23:15:18  But then I managed that and it turned to stone so that's not it.
23:16:14  But I'm not seeing any way to get a kitten facing left there.
23:16:18  Wanna see my hint? I don't know how exactly I managed this... in fact I forgot a highly relevant detail of the game mechanics.
23:16:59  Hmm. Sure?
23:17:11  https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/random_steve.png again
23:17:31  keeping in mind that all my screenshots are just after entering the screen, and not edited in any way :)
23:17:33  Oh man, I thought I'd ruled that out.
23:17:38  [[Spin4]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123574&oldid=123572 * Michael * (+14) 
23:18:43  so the detail I forgot is... hmm, I'll rot13
23:19:13  vs lbh chfu n qrnq png snpvat yrsg gb gur evtug... qbrf vg punatr gur qverpgvba vg'f snpvat?
23:19:18  (feel free to ignore that)
23:19:44  OK, got the star.
23:20:12  The answer to the rot13ed question is yes.
23:20:35  So that's not the solution.
23:22:46  Here's my cryptid tracker: https://shachaf.net /tmp/su/2024-02-17-152205_1301x1314.png
23:24:07  Cool, yeah I've never seen that. That said though... it may have existed and I only found that room after I had most, possibly all cryptids already (and knew where all of them were)? Then I wouldn't remember.
23:25:24  shachaf: btw you seem to always have a space between shachaf.net and /tmp ... that's not ideal?
23:25:40  https://epicpikaguy.itch.io/n-step-steve-part-2/devlog/471982/post-launch-update seems to suggest it was added later.
23:26:00  I'm planning on deleting these files and I don't want Googlebot or whatever to start crawling them forever and ever.
23:26:55  OK, looking at one of these marked secrets I realize that I've forgotten you can also use teleporters, not just wormholes.
23:28:53  is this still about N-step Steve?
23:29:14  yes, looks like it is
23:31:12  shachaf: User-agent: * \ Disallow: /tmp/su
23:31:50  I guess that's an option.
23:33:26  isn't there somewhere I started to collect games that the esolang community likes to play? I thought I created a page on the wiki or something
23:34:27  `slashlearn N Step Steve//N Step Steve is a puzzle video game https://epicpikaguy.itch.io/n-step-steve-part-1 that the esolang community likes to play.
23:34:33  Learned 'n step steve': N Step Steve is a puzzle video game https://epicpikaguy.itch.io/n-step-steve-part-1 that the esolang community likes to play.
23:36:54  oh, it's on https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:B_jonas
23:37:28  [[User:B jonas]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123575&oldid=118706 * B jonas * (+85) /* Games that the esolangs community plays */ N Step Steve
23:42:25  Hmm, I forgot quite a few things about this game
23:44:32  nobody is making hard toothbrushes anymore. it's all medium, soft, ultra-soft, and x-ultra-ultra-soft

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03:26:35  int-e: Well, I went back to it, and I'm at 18 kittens, 28 stars, 27 cryptids.
03:26:55  Apparently there's something at 11,17, but I'm puzzled by it.
03:48:08  Oh, got it.
03:52:15  Now that I have 28, I guess I'll look at your text.
03:52:27  Oh.
03:55:29  [[MCA (Old)]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123580&oldid=123565 * EvyLah * (-62) /* Reserved memory cells */
03:59:01  [[BFFuck]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123581&oldid=122209 * None1 * (+140) /* External Resources */  Finally fixed if-else statements!
03:59:03  I don't think I'd've found that.
03:59:28  Even though I plausibly found it last time (it seems a little familiar?), but this time I don't think I'd even have looked.
04:02:35  [[BFFuck]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123582&oldid=123581 * None1 * (+3603) /* Examples */  Added [[FizzBuzz]] example
04:18:39  [[Assembly Line]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123583&oldid=123277 * EvyLah * (+52) 
04:21:00  [[GDLang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123584&oldid=122578 * EvyLah * (-1104) removing page
04:26:30  [[User:EvyLah]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123585&oldid=123301 * EvyLah * (-19) dont look at gdlang
04:26:44  [[Gdlang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123586&oldid=122833 * EvyLah * (-20) Blanked the page
04:35:54  How to extract frames from a video file according to what is at a specific part of the picture? (e.g. if it displays a number, and you want to then extract them in the order by the numbers; in that case it would also be necessary to convert the picture back into the numbers that are displayed, though)
04:49:56  zzo38: yeah, you'd probably have to extract all the frames to compare the numbers. or at least compare the numbers in every few frames if they aren't changing very quickly.
04:50:25  I used ffmpeg to play all the frames from a video
05:04:46  But I thought that video files are usually encoded that some frames are key frames, so you might not need to check all of the frames if you know that some parts of some of the frames are not changing. Furthermore, I am not sure what is the way to actually compare the numbers in the picture, especially that it is probably lossy
05:22:46  zzo38: yes, you may need to extract all the frames even if you throw away some of them
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06:32:54  [[Mode Spam]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123588&oldid=123587 * EvyLah * (-2) input has 2 ways, I don't think that's "various"
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12:46:05  shachaf: oh yes, that other way to get a qbhoyr jnec
12:47:59  (green energy? :) )
12:49:42  shachaf: I'm pretty sure I only figured that out after realizing that this mechanic has a constant offset...
12:50:26  (which leads to "apparently there's something at 11,17")
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18:44:39  [[Mode Spam]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123603&oldid=123589 * EvyLah * (+216) fixed the spelling "accumulator" wrong (7 times) & added the swap mode cmd
18:45:00  [[Spin4]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123604&oldid=123602 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+97) Link, categories
18:48:00  [[Spin4]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123605&oldid=123604 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+26) Lowercase
18:49:16  [[Mode Spam]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123606&oldid=123603 * EvyLah * (+1255) apparently I'm really bad at spelling
18:49:42  [[Mode Spam]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123607&oldid=123606 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+55) Categories
19:12:33  int-e: I mean, it does demonstrate this thing at the "ending" area.
19:13:03  I think at the time I just assumed that that specific interaction always takes you to that place.
19:13:23  But actually all of them behave the same way.
19:18:28  [[Mode Spam]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123608&oldid=123607 * EvyLah * (+211) added input/output mode
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19:57:53  [[Mode Spam]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123612&oldid=123611 * EvyLah * (+0) ok
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20:03:35  [[A+B Problem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123614&oldid=123613 * EvyLah * (-1) didn't notice objlang and moved mode spam
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21:01:20  [[User:EvyLah]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123616&oldid=123585 * EvyLah * (+97) mode spam
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21:10:22  [[Mode Spam]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123618&oldid=123617 * EvyLah * (+10) thank you online string replacer
22:11:42  shachaf: It does and I'm pretty sure I only realized that in retrospect.
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05:27:47  [[Mel]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123621&oldid=123620 * None1 * (+4) 
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18:31:08  [[Lakshayati]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123655&oldid=123654 * MaxDobbs32 * (+31) 
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20:20:33  [[Osis]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123657&oldid=68251 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+4889) Introduced the requirement of at least one space as separator betwixt code and base cases in order to obviate ambiguities, rectified several mistakes, corrected the [1,2] period program, reformatted the table, and supplemented an EBNF syntax formulation.
20:21:33  [[Osis]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123658&oldid=123657 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+158) Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Osis programming language on GitHub and changed the category tag Unimplemented to Implemented.
20:24:28  [[Osis]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123659&oldid=123658 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+13) Reformulated the pseudocode description of the execution principle in a manner that utilizes the mathematical nomenclature entailing n and a(...).
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06:05:12  What's the fastest Thue interpreter in existence?
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06:32:57  Swyrl: most of the work on Thue interpreters was over a decade ago, so I'm not sure anyone remembers that any more
06:33:12  and I'm not sure if any were optimised for speed
06:33:15  Thue interpreter or compiler, I guess.
06:33:27  it wouldn't surprise me if the best approach would be to write a new one, if you need speed
06:34:42  (also, writing fast interpreters for tarpits can be very difficult because many tarpit programs store things in very inefficient encodings, which an optimising interpreter can reverse-engineer and store more efficiently for a huge speedup, but that's generally very difficult to implement)
06:36:20  Yeah, there's only so much you can do to make the core operations fast before you hit the "bottom".
06:36:57  right – optimising the core operations in a tarpit is sometimes helpful, but working out how they optimise as groups and optimising the group gives a much larger benefit
06:37:36  e.g. in brainfuck, a good optimising compiler should optimise code like [->+++<] into a multiplication by 3, and that will inherently be much faster than simply trying to implement [ and - and > and + and < as efficiently as possible#
06:39:19  I wrote an optimizing interpreter for The Waterfall Model named Ratiofall, which works by analyzing what a loop is doing and attempting to shortcut as many iterations of the loop as possible, and this works recursively, so often even complex and nested loops can be optimized down to a single constant-time operation
06:39:48  (although of course it's impossible, both in general and in this particular case, to make this sort of thing work for all loops)
06:40:03  Hard to do things like that in Thue and other string rewrite languages unless you write rules in a specific form.
06:40:10  with Thue this sort of thing is harder because it's hard to even identify where the loops are
06:41:22  oh, another thing that can make Thue hard to implement efficiently is that the search string and replacement can be different lengths, which means that you need to be able to insert into the middle of a string
06:41:53  Yeah. You solve that with a deque.
06:43:01  I don't think a deque would handle that problem – it can only do fast different-length replacements at one particular point in the string (typically the ends), so you would have to scan the entire string repeatedly changing the replacement point
06:43:10  A deque and a trie are as fast as I've gotten.
06:43:12  Yes.
06:43:32  Throw your rules into a trie, with the leaves being the right hand sides of your rules.
06:43:52  At any evaluation step, try to match the head of the deque with the trie.
06:43:57  If you can't, advance one character, try again.
06:44:29  If you can, dequeue the pattern length, and then enqueue the right hand side to the head of the deque.
06:44:31  so I think there are two basic models you could use: one is the "iterated finite-state transducer" model which I think is what you are using (although it doesn't easily work for the "standard" probabilistic variant of Thue, it works for "Thue with unspecified evaluation order")
06:44:59  Yeah, the latter bit.
06:45:10  You can also use the trie to compile to a sequence of nested switch/case statements.
06:45:11  and the other would be to have some sort of rope to hold the string, together with an index of what locations matched the LHS of a rule
06:45:13  Or nested ifs.
06:45:27  that would be faster in cases where most of the string doesn't match most of the time
06:45:45  I think the trie would ideally be compiled into a finite-state machine
06:46:17  What would be the difference?
06:46:23  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyer%E2%80%93Moore_string-search_algorithm
06:46:30  Time complexity is the same-ish.
06:47:18  with the finite-state machine time complexity is O(n) where n is the length of the state string, with the trie it's O(nx) where x is the length of the longest search string
06:47:38  although, x is a constant for any given program, so it doesn't change the computational complexity of any given program
06:47:48  still, not having to rewind after a failed match makes it faster in practice
06:47:49  I was going to say.
06:47:50  It's still linear.
06:48:11  Why would you rewind? Failure means you advance by one character by "rolling" the deque.
06:48:37  say your rule is aaab::=c and your search string is aaaaaab
06:48:38  Or are you talking about a rewind in terms of control flow.
06:48:49  Right.
06:48:59  first you match aaab against the first four characters of the string, then against characters 2-5, then against characters 3-6, and so on
06:49:03  so each character is being checked multiple times
06:49:20  Mmm.
06:49:42  a well-designed finite-state machine can check aaab against characters 1-4, then just check b against 5, because the information that we just saw 3 'a's is already encoded in the machine's state
06:49:50  Yeah, if we divide it like.. `aaa aaab`.
06:50:18  You'd traverse `a -> a -> a -> b` and then fail on `a`, advance one character.
06:50:48  I guess you can think of a finite state machine as checking from all possible starting positions in parallel
06:51:16  Yeah you'd have to go through.. eugh, 4 comparisons each.
06:51:19  Hm.
06:51:21  Yeah.
06:51:57  I feel like at that point you're describing regular expressions with string replacement states.
06:52:19  right, this is why I said "finite-state transducer" which is effectively the mathematical formalization of that
06:52:30  And you can morph a trie into a DFA.
06:52:59  It's just merging common prefixes, but..
06:53:02  Err, suffixes.
06:53:54  the trie already merges common prefixes – the change to a DFA is in working out what part of the tree to return to after a mismatch (which might not necessarily be the root)
06:54:13  Yeah that part I don't have an intiution about.
06:54:17  *intuition
06:54:29  So what would the FSM for `aaab ::= c` be, do you think?
06:55:11  it would have 5 states, representing the number of characters of "aaab" that had matched, so I'll call them 0…4 respectively
06:55:50  most characters go to state 0 when read; 'a' in state 0-2 adds 1 to the state number; 'b' in state 3 shows a match; 'a' in state 3 remains in state 3; and 4 is the state that shows a match was found
06:56:20  normally it's harder for a human to calculate than that (although still pretty easy for a computer), but this string is quite well-behaved
06:57:12  OK, so 'b' in state 3 goes to state 4 and that's how it reports the match; state 4 is just a halt/success state
06:58:09  in general I think you have a state for all possible prefixes of the search strings, so the behaviour when there is a potential match is identical to that of a trie
06:59:00  the only difference is in deciding where to go after a mismatch, which is done by looking at the longest (possibly empty) suffix of the characters read so far that's a prefix of at least one search string, and going to that state
06:59:38  Hm, I'm gonna try to draw that out.
06:59:40  Hard to visualize.
07:00:01  You seek to the next character on successful match given a transition, yeah?
07:00:21  e.g. if we have search strings "abcde" and "cdfg", then upon reading "f" after "abcd", the longest suffix of the characters read that's a prefix of a search string is "cdf", so we jump to the "cdf" section of the trie
07:00:57  so, there's one state for every string that's a prefix of at least one search string (even if it's a prefix of more than one search string, you still only have the one state)
07:02:23  say the state is "X" and you're reading a character 'y' to produce the string "Xy" –  you then need to go to the state "Xy", but if there isn't one (because no search string starts with "Xy"), you remove the first character of "X" and try again (effectively advancing the position "you started scanning from" by one character)
07:02:52  That's kind of interesting..
07:02:53  and repeat, eventually (if you just read a character that doesn't appear in any search string) you end up with the empty string, which must be a prefix of every search string
07:03:22  and because there are finitely many "X"s and finitely many "y"s, you can just work out the correct state transition for every "Xy" in advance by trying all of them
07:04:03 * Swyrl thinks.
07:08:50  Wouldn't this require analyzing the initial string -and- the rules?
07:09:36  no, just the rules, once you've analyzed it it works on any string (initial or not)
07:09:40  aaab -> c run on a string "aaaaaaaab" would fit the bill, but what if it was something like "aaaacccccaaaaaaab".
07:10:10  so, the rule for state 3 (i.e. after reading "aaa") goes to state 3 upon reading "a", but back to state 0 upon reading "c"
07:10:37  Right, but you'd need to do have your list of symbols to fail on.
07:10:42  because "aaac" isn't a prefix of any search string, and nor is "aac" nor "ac" nor "c"
07:10:47  *you'd need to have your list of symbols to fail on".
07:10:52  Bah, fingers.
07:11:02  and we can analyze that in advance
07:11:43  well, your "any symbol not in any of the rules" transition goes to state 0
07:12:19  I guess you do need to know the complete list of characters that could occur (or just design the FSM to always go to state 0 upon seeing an unexpected character)
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07:13:36  So 1 -(a)-> 2 -(a)-> 3 -(a)-> 4 -(b) -> 0, and 1 -(a)-> 2 -(a)-> 3 -(a)-> 4 -(*) -> 4.
07:14:04  I think you have the states numbered incorrectly, but the general pattern of the transitions looks right
07:14:23  I just started from 1 instead of 0.
07:15:01  Whoops, yeah, that last one should be 0.
07:15:15  last one should be 1 I think, with your numbering
07:15:15  Initial state, see 'a', next state, see 'a', next state, see 'a', next state, see 'b' and go to initial state. See anything else, go to the same state.
07:15:31  Yeah, a 1.. sorry, it's almost midnight and my meds have worn off.
07:15:48  this sort of thing is common among programmers, don't worry about it
07:16:12  That'd be odd, though. I feel like that'd produce some weird results.
07:16:21  Like that'd match on `aaaaaacb`.
07:17:21  the full machine is (with your numbering) 1: {'a': 2, others: 1}; 2: {'a': 3, others: 1}; 3: {'a': 4, others: 1}; 4: {'a': 4, 'b': accept, others: 1}
07:17:53  so on 'aaaaaacb', the machine goes from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 on the leading 'a's, stays at 4 for the rest of the 'a's, then goes back to 1 on the 'c'
07:18:02  and then stays at 1 for the 'b' because state 1 doesn't have a rule for 'b'
07:18:49  Why wouldn't 'c'  trigger a transition to 4 as well, or is that just "if we're repeating the previous transition"?
07:19:10  Like if the transition that led to 4 is 'c' that'd be 'c'.
07:19:25  'c' doesn't trigger a transition to 4 because we're only supposed to be in state 4 if the preceding three characters were "aaa"
07:19:58  Right, but locally it's just because the prior transition is 'a', right?
07:20:32  I don't understand your reasoning
07:20:44  we're looking for "aaab" and no other string
07:21:19  so if we see a 'c' we know that the string we're looking for doesn't overlap this point in the string being searched, because "aaab" doesn't contain 'c'
07:21:48  and so we can go back to the initial state because we know that any match has to be entirely to the right of the current location, so it's safe to forget everything we've seen
07:22:06  thus 'c' always goes back to state 1, regardless of which state we were in beforehnad
07:22:16  I'm trying to figure out the general rule for generating these.
07:23:16  What would "abc -> xyz" look like as a state diagram?
07:23:49  1: {'a': 2, others: 1}; 2: {'b': 3, others: 1}; 3: {'c': accept, others: 1}
07:24:03  the right hand half of the rule doesn't matter at all for the matching, just for the replacement
07:24:15  to make it into a full finite-state transducer, you need to add in the replacements too
07:24:18  so it'd look like this:
07:24:27  Right.
07:25:00  So let's add more search strings. "abc", "aab", "acab", "baac".
07:25:23  1: {'a': goto 2, others: echo the read character, goto 1}; 2: {'b': goto 3, others: print 'a', echo the read character, goto 1}; 3: {'c': print "xyz", goto 1; others: print 'ab', echo the read character, goto 1}
07:25:50  with your new set of search strings, the states are "a", "b", "aa", "ab", "ac", "ba", "aca", "baa"
07:25:52  and ""
07:26:04  i.e. everything that's a prefix of any of the search strings
07:26:23  Hmmmm.
07:26:45  ("a" is a prefix of three of the search strings, but we nonetheless only have one "a" state)
07:26:53  And that's not really any different from  a trie.
07:27:05  You'd still have those same states.. ish.
07:27:13  right, the transitions for when we read something that could extend a match are identical to the trie
07:27:38  the only difference is the transitions that produce something that isn't a valid prefi
07:27:40  * prefix
07:28:29  e.g. say we read "a" in state "baa" – "baaa" doesn't match, so we would transition to "aaa" if it were a state (but it isn't), and so we instead transition to "aa" which is a state
07:28:54  (and when constructing the finite-state transducer, the "b" and "a" that "fall off the start" get echoed)
07:29:16  ..What the heck is the algorithm to do this?
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07:30:43  DFA minimization?
07:30:53  a) calculate all prefixes of the state LHSes; b) append all possible symbols to each of those prefixes (you can optimize for symbols that can't occur); c) for each of those strings made by appending prefix+symbol, take the longest suffix of it that's one of the prefixes; the suffix becomes the next state to go to, the bit before the suffix gets echoed
07:31:18  except d) if the prefix+symbol happens to be a rule LHS, instead print the RHS and goto the initial state
07:31:28  (assuming we're talking about unspecified-evaluation-order Thue)
07:32:30  For a), that's just "all possible slices of a string starting from the first character and ending with the last"?
07:33:00  no, it's prefixes, not slices
07:33:06  and it's only prefixes of rule LHSes
07:33:27  so, all substrings of rule LHSes that start at the start, but end before the end
07:33:48  That's a lot.
07:34:01  Even for a string like "aaab".
07:34:16  it's less than or equal to the total number of characters in the rule LHses
07:34:30  e.g. a 10-character string has 10 prefixes
07:34:41  so, linear in the size of the program
07:34:44  I'm sorry, I'm not grokking this properly, what exactly do you define as a prefix here?
07:35:04  so for "abcde", the prefixes are "", "a", "ab", "abc", "abcd"
07:35:06  For me, if I have a string abcd, [a, ab, abc, abcd]-
07:35:14  Yeah.
07:35:36  All substrings starting from the first character, and ending right before the end.
07:35:41  yep
07:35:50  Which I said as a slice earlier.
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07:36:03  "slice" to me doesn't necessarily imply starting at the start
07:36:39  a prefix is a sort of slice, but not the only sort of slice
07:36:40  Ah.
07:36:43  Makes sense.
07:39:30  anyway, this conversation has been useful to me because I've been thinking about the use of iterated finite-state transducers as a parsing automaton – it's been interesting to learn that my automaton is exactly the same thing as "left-to-right Thue"
07:40:04  (although, the parsing automaton has restrictions on it to ensure it finishes in linear time, whereas Thue doesn't have those restrictions and is Turing-complete)
07:40:23  I guess this makes sense because Thue was originally invented as a type of grammar, before it became a programming language
07:42:19  anyway, this gives an idea for the next step in optimising the Thue interpreter: suppose you are using the search algorithm of "make the leftmost replacement, then scan the string again and make the leftmost replacement in the new string"
07:42:47  you don't have to scan the string again from the start, there is a limit on how far to the left the next match can occur
07:43:13  I feel like you could use this in tandem with a deque.
07:43:23  yes, at this point I think you could
07:43:36  the "leftmost replacement" rule is particularly amenable to being optimized
07:43:36  I've always wanted to upgrade my trie approach to a DFA.
07:43:50  I managed to get single rule firing down to like.. 50ns.
07:43:57  Including replacement.
07:44:08  are you using an array-based deque? those are normally the fastest deque implementations
07:44:17  Yep.
07:44:23  It's just a circular buffer.
07:44:27  Head and tail pointers.
07:45:04  yes, the only hard part is resizing the buffer if the string grows, and even then it's not that hard, just a pain to get right
07:45:26  hmm, I guess this is actually the same thing as a gap buffer
07:45:38  It's not that hard. You do have a max string length, but.
07:45:52  You can chain buffers together and allocate/expand as needed.
07:46:23  I believe the correct technique is, if the circular buffer fills, to create a new circular buffer that's (e.g.) twice as large and then copy the entire contents over
07:46:54  this is linear time because the time spent copying the data is amortized over the time spent filling the buffer in the first place
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08:02:54  A better way would be to just chain "pages" together in a ring (previous/next pointers), with each page being a fixed size. Your head/tail pointers are then a combo of index + pointer.
08:03:57  it wouldn't surprise me if that's slower – you're paying time every time you move between pages, rather than just when the size grows
08:04:39  Not sure how.
08:04:52  although I guess the extreme way to get this to work would be to use the processor's page table, and just change the relationship between logical memory to move memory around without actually copying it
08:05:00  You don't copy anything.
08:05:02  * relationship between logical and physical memory
08:05:17  Swyrl: yes but I think the copy is actually faster
08:05:53  otherwise you have to deal with pagebreaks for the rest of the program's runtime, which is linear in the number of times you cross a pagebreak rather than linear in the total amount of memory you use
08:06:17  If I have a "page" or "chunk" size of 256 elements, and I fill that up, I allocate another "chunk", set the current chunk's "next" pointer to the newly allocated chunk, and then set my "head" or "tail" pointer to that chunk, and reset the index.
08:06:33  You have a sliding window back and forth. It's not circular.
08:06:48  yes, but say you move back to the previous chunk – now you need to follow the pointer between the chunks
08:07:25  So let's say you "roll" the deque.
08:07:38  Meaning dequeue from tail, enqueue at head, or vice versa.
08:08:16  Unless you're frequently flipping back and forth on chunk boundaries, you'll pay the cost infrequently if your chunks are sufficiently large.
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08:09:06  I feel like there are some situations in which frequently flipping back and forth might happen
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08:09:32  in the random/average case, this'll happen at a rate inversely proportional to the size of the chunks
08:09:45  hmm, maybe the compromise is to make each chunk twice as large as the previous
08:09:51  Could!
08:10:00  oh, I just understood why copying is faster from a computational complexity point of view
08:10:16  the length of time it takes to *allocate* all the chunks is O(total used memory)
08:10:25  and the length of time it takes to do the copies is also O(total used memory)
08:10:54  so, the time spent doing the copy can be counted against the time taken doing the allocation
08:11:48  I'm not sure that that holds. Allocating the double-sized queue and then doing the copy every time is more operations than just allocating.
08:12:05  You have allocate + copy instead of just allocate.
08:12:57  it's more operations but they're proportional to the same value
08:15:25  So let's say you have a chunk setup like [T.....]-[.....]-[...H.]
08:15:37  And you move the head to the right.
08:16:00  You'd just allocate another chunk, and move the head to the right. [T.....]-[.....]-[....]-[H.....]
08:16:25  I don't see how that's the same operationally. You're doing allocations that are smaller than the string you've stored at that point.
08:16:54  well, say you have 65536-byte chunks, now you have to follow a chunk pointer on (on average) 1 in 65536 operations
08:16:56  So if reserving memory takes linear time with respect to how much you wanna reserve, it's both less than the entire stored string -and- less than double the capacity of the buffer.
08:17:20  you are making the "expand" operation cheaper but the "move head/tail" operation more expensive
08:17:43  and the latter happens a lot more often – you have to move the head/tail 65536 times to even make an expand happen
08:18:26  the vast majority of programs will move quadratically or even exponentially more than they expand
08:18:42  so, a tiny extra cost in the move will eventually end up outweighing a linear cost in the expansion
08:20:01  (incidentally, most modern operating systems don't have an "allocate as a copy of" primitive, but they should – it would be faster than an allocation and a copy because the allocation has to spend time zeroing the memory in order to stop programs looking at other programs' deallocated memory)
08:20:22  (and the point is that zeroing memory takes a comparable length of time to copying memory)
08:22:12  So, the trade-off is useful because it prevents you from keeping the memory you've allocated. If you expand by twice the buffer size every time you fill it, but never release the memory or downsize, that's wasting space.
08:22:58  The only valid chunks, i.e the ones that need to be maintained, are the ones between the head and tail pointer.
08:23:06  Tail can never be after head, head can never be before tail.
08:25:26  oh, the normal technique is to use a circular buffer
08:25:34  Right.
08:25:49  But in this scheme, the circular nature is an illusion.
08:25:55  so when you have one big chunk you can have the "edges" contain useful data, and the head and tail closer to the middle, with the bit between them being uninitialized
08:26:29  that means that if the head and tail are constantly moving, but the length of the deque isn't growing, you can avoid needing to do memory operations at all
08:26:51  anyway, with respect to "never release/downsize the memory", that's what most programs do already
08:27:06  freeing memory back to the OS is a) slow and b) usually impossible due to fragmentation
08:27:12 * Swyrl shrugs.
08:27:53  historically in most standard lirbaries, a call to free() will make the memory available to future calls to malloc() but otherwise does nothing to affect the system state, e.g. it doesn't return the memory for use by other programs
08:28:17  (although glibc is an exception if you make sufficiently large allocations)
08:29:18  deallocating memory is actually the most difficult part of writing a memory allocator, if you never have to deal with deallocation it is trivially easy
08:29:48  anyway, for a program like a Thue interpreter, I'm pretty sure it is more efficient to never deallocate
08:29:53  There was a neat talk about Zig about this. And yes, I agree. Fixed object allocators are usually the best.
08:30:17  Your fragment size is 1.
08:30:54  yes, if all the mallocs and frees in the same program are for blocks of the same size it's also easy
08:31:10  (although, only in terms of reusing memory in the program – it's still hard to release it back to the OS)
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09:18:27  [[Adj]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123666&oldid=123665 * None1 * (+23) 
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09:27:43  " I'm trying to figure out the general rule for generating these." => the Cormen, Leiserson, Rivest, Stein, "Introduction to Algorithms" book chapter 32.3 describes it for now, until TAOCP volume 5 is ready. 
09:28:10  it's rather weird and I don't recall the details
09:28:27  Wonder if there's an equivalent algorithm or parsing strategy for structured programming.
09:29:15  Instead of state machines. I know there's a direct conversion by virtue of a state variable and if/else but I have a feeling there's something you can do there that gets at or close to the same complexity as the generated FST.
09:29:36  I'll have to think on that. And thanks, b_jonas, ais523.
09:29:52  Swyrl: also maybe look at the ICFP contest 2007, since it has the Fuun DNA language which is kind of like Thue, and it may have been worth for some teams to make an optimized interpreter for it
09:30:45  Ooh.
09:31:25  Self-modifying.
09:31:27 * Swyrl peeps.
09:36:42  or rather, Fuun DNA is similar to Slashalash except it's more powerful and so less of a tarpit
09:40:15  ais523 “most modern operating systems don't have an ‘allocate as a copy of’ primitive”: I think Linux has that, at least if you're copying OS-page-aligned data, but it's a rather obscure thing that doesn't come up often because normally a program can just resuse previously allocated memory to avoid the zeroing
09:41:12  besides the zeroing is not much of an overhead if you're overwriting immediately anyway, beacuse it only has to write the farther levels of the cache hierarchy once
09:45:02  or at least, that used to be the case: when you allocated a large amount of memory, the kernel didn't need to zero and give it to you all at once, it could zero each page when you first touch it. this is probably no longer exactly true because of automatic hugepages. 
09:45:08  b_jonas: hmm, which system call is that? there's mremap but that doesn't copy the data, it moves it and/or hardlinks it (of course, moving would be good enough for the purpose of this program)
09:45:44  and yes, the zeroing is lazy nowadays but that doesn't really change much in terms of the time spent, it still has to be spent at some point
09:46:32  Windows at least used to have a background memory zeroing thread, but Linux rejected the idea because of cache thrashing (although, they started reconsidering it once uncached write instructions became generally available, not sure if it was implemetned then)
09:50:50  ais523: Maybe a combination of memfd_create and mmap with MAP_PRIVATE will do it?
09:52:02  (it's interesting that this is hard... COW pages exist for fork() after all)
09:55:25  int-e: I think that might work if you knew before you started populating the memory that you were going to need to copy it
09:55:35  but yes, I agree that it's interesting that it's hard
09:56:43  hmm, actually, if you MAP_PRIVATE the same file twice, do you get two different copies? I suppose you do?
10:01:15  I'd hope so, and I don't know.
10:02:33  If you ever want to make a copy of a copy this approach will break down.
10:09:32  Regarding MAP_PRIVATE... POSIX is not clear about that ("modifications to the mapped data by the calling process shall be visible only to the calling process and shall not change the underlying object") and neither is the Linux manpage. Hmm.
10:11:49  ais523: I'm not sure if it's available in full generality, but yes, there's MAP_PRIVATE to map a private writable copy of a file, and vmsplice lets you make the kernel copy data though I don't know the details.
10:11:49  https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16965505/allocating-copy-on-write-memory-within-a-process "Then use libsigsegv to intercept write attempts, manually make a copy of the page and then mprotect both to read-write."
10:13:03  Sounds awful.
10:13:40  int-e: nowadays you can use userfaultfd for that, which is slightly more efficient – but both solutions still have the problem that you allocate zeroed memory and then copy into it
10:14:33  as for MAP_PRIVATE, I'm pretty sure it's possible to map /dev/zero and I'd hope you'd get zeroed memory both times, rather than the second time contain the same data as the first
10:16:38  I wouldn't worry about the zeroing. If it's really that important, eventually the CPU developer folks will change the cache architecture so that the cache can zero a page on its own. But I don't think it will matter in the case you want, because if you overwrite the page immediately then the copy doesn't cost much.
10:17:20  it does for large pages I think
10:17:38  if it's just a 4KiB page then yes, the whole thing is zeroed and is now in L1, then you can copy it and the source of the copy also fits into L1 at the same time
10:17:54  ais523: but it's also conceivable that /dev/zero is a special case and "real" files behave differently... but not terribly likely, I think.
10:17:58  so you just have to pay the cost of writing 4KiB into L1 twice
10:18:23  but with larger pages, the start of the page will fall out of cache before the end is zeroed, so you're going at a much slower speed
10:18:50  I wonder if POSIX was intentionally vague because they didn't want to constrain OSes, they do that sort of thing a lot
10:19:10  (for one I bet if private mappings were shared within a process this would be an attack vector, maybe on on the dynamic linker, that I'd have seen somewhere)
10:21:14  they logically shouldn't be, and I think they probably aren't, but it's weird that that isn't clearly documented
10:24:47  hmm, another way to implement it would be to have something similar to /dev/mem, but for logical/virtual memory (from the mapping process's point of view) rather than physical memory
10:24:54  then, you could just MAP_PRIVATE a section of your own memory
10:25:46  (although that would have the usual MAP_PRIVATE issues of needing prefaulting in order to ensure that you are taking a snapshot, rather than some parts of the memory being loaded later and seeing changes that had been made since the map)
10:28:58  Anyway, a quick test with a real file indicates separate COW mappings. Same for memfd_create().
10:30:21  hmm, I wonder how you submit patches for the man pages
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11:14:39  ais523: there's a suggestive note in the OpenBSD manpage https://man.openbsd.org/mmap on this, search for /MAP_COPY/
11:25:39  wib_jonas: MAP_COPY is a GNU Hurd flag for mmap, I think
11:26:07  Linux didn't implement it in favour of MAP_DENYWRITE, but then MAP_DENYWRITE got removed because it was inherently a DOS vector
11:26:23  …but didn't add anything else to solve the same underlying problem
11:26:50  ais523: in any case, if you want to map a copy of your process's existing memory, and you can go linux-specific, then you can write that memory into a file in /dev/shm , and then map MAP_SHARED that part of the file. this way the kernel does the copying and presumably doesn't have to zero pages, except where you're writing not page aligned
11:27:14  wib_jonas: that doesn't map a copy, it double-maps the same part of memory
11:27:21  overwriting either will overwrite the other
11:27:43  write copies from your memory
11:27:50  ah right, I see
11:28:24  now I am wondering if you could do something with vmsplice, probably not though because you can't map a pipe
11:29:06  but you have to be careful with it, because the kernel has to keep track of what's mapped where. I presumably you'd just create a large file in /dev/shm in advance, map it non-readable, then write to the file and mprotect the region to make it available
11:29:15  btw, this reminds me of one of my great ideas: a kernel implementation of pipes mostly in userspace, along the lines of a futex
11:29:52  so that the two programs connected by the pipe just directly read and write into memory that's mapped by both of them
11:30:00  ais523: I think you can use splice or vmsplice if you want the kernel to copy the same pages to multiple copies in memory. you could plausibly do that for some esoteric stuff.
11:30:22  wib_jonas: there's a system call "tee" which copies pages out of a pipe whilst leaving the originals in the pipe
11:30:34  ais523: right
11:31:23  although it's splice-style copying of references to the pages, rather than actual copies in memory
11:32:41  ais523: well, there are multiple libraries that try to implement data structures over interprocess shared memory. some of them probably support something like a pipe. I find the whole thing confusing because there are like four different kernel interfaces for shared memory just on Linux, and I think at least one more on win32, and then the
11:32:42  libraries abstract some of these away, but I don't understand how we ended up with so many different interfaces on linux in first place
11:33:31  wib_jonas: if the kernel were involved, though, it could allow regular reads and writes to the userspace pipes from processes that didn't know how they worked
11:34:01  and I think the reason Linux has so many interfaces is that they keep inventing better ones, but have to keep the old ones around for compatibility
11:34:18  ais523: yes, but IIUC tee lets you copy reference only between pipes, and then splice lets you write from those pipes into any file, hopefully with as few copy operations as the kernel can get away with
11:35:08  right
11:36:35  yes, but in particular in the case of shared memory I don't really understand what is improved between the SysV shared memory and the POSIX shared memory interfaces. I understand the Linux-specific underlying interface which is that shared memory is just files in /dev/shm which is a tmpfs, and I think POSIX  shared memory is a libc interface over
11:36:35  that, but why is there a POSIX shared memory interface in first place instead of standardizing SysV shared memory?
11:37:41  no wait, I think POSIX does standardize the SysV shared memory
11:37:48  but also has the new interface
11:39:02  https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/sysvipc.7.html is the SysV shared memory interface, while https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/shm_overview.7.html is the POSIX shared memory interface
11:39:30  the latter says "POSIX shared memory provides a simpler, and better designed interface"
11:39:42  POSIX isn't just for Unix-alikes, I think many of the new POSIX interfaces are to make it work on, e.g., Windows
11:39:55  like, posix_spawn exists because not all OSes can do a fork
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11:40:59  oh right, isn't there an inherent resource leak in SysV shared memory?
11:41:02  I'm not convinced.  I think posix_spawn exists to preserve the vfork optimization without exposing it to the user, it should exist even without windows
11:41:08  like, if a process crashes the OS has no idea when to deallocate it
11:41:22  or am I thinking about something else
11:42:02  as in, even if you can fork, that requires the OS to copy a lot of administrative data structures, vfork is cheaper but very messy, so it's worth to abstract it away to a library
11:42:37  vfork's behaviour is kind-of unclear in between OSes, and it has odd restrictions that aren't always documented well
11:42:40  vfork is so messy that you can't use it at all without some low-level knowledge of what the compiler even compiles as a write into memory
11:42:42  so abstracting that to a library makes sense
11:43:00  interestingly, gcc seems to interpret vfork as equivalent to setjmp
11:43:25  at least for the purpose of warning about incorrect uses
11:43:42  (that said, I think gcc has some false-positive setjmp warnings, or at least did last time I tried)
11:43:58  that makes sense, it's a function that can return twice
11:44:34  a C function; for a prolog function that's normal
11:44:41  same for a scheme function
11:45:06  or an unlambda function while we're there
11:45:39  I guess this creates philosophical problems about what returning is
11:45:55  in prolog, the compiler is basically rewinding execution to back when the function was running – although setjmp is pretty similar in spirit to that
11:47:15  and setjmp is hard to use correctly too, which is why http://software.schmorp.de/pkg/libcoro.html abstracts away one particular use case that you can implement with setjmp but where you don't want to expose the weird thing about returning twice
11:47:26  call/cc is also similar to a rewind in spirit
11:47:58  I had a call/cc-like operator planned for an Underload-like language, which basically just took a copy of the program-to-run and made it into a stack element
11:48:37  it's hard to think of that as returning twice, although in a way it does – the remainder of the program is similar in nature to a call stack and you are copying it, so running past the same point on the stack twice (or on the stack and its copy) can be thought of as returning twice
11:50:16  scheme and ruby expose this in a maximal way, because they allow full call/cc but also conveniently usable mutable local variables and mutable arrays. whereas prolog makes mutable state somewhat hard to use, and unlambda doesn't have mutable variables at all.
11:50:41  well, ruby 1.8; I don't know if ruby 2 still supports call/cc
11:51:15  it was already an esoteric addition to ruby 1, I think the source code has a comment saying that they aren't doing this because it's useful, they're doing it because they can
11:52:28  at least SWI-Prolog has a mutable assignment operator that outright overwites things that you would expect to be immutable
11:52:33  but I forget the details
11:53:38  nb_setarg(+Arg, +Term, +Value)     Assigns the Arg-th argument  of the  compound term  Term with  the given     Value as setarg/3, but on backtracking the  assignment is  not reversed.
11:53:50  there we go
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11:57:56  yeah, there are multiple brands of mutability; but in scheme, the default way to create a local variable (lambda or let) is just mutable (or potentially mutable; a compiler could detect whether you ever use it as a mutable), and the default way to heap-allocate an array of object references (make-vector) makes the array elements mutable. the same
11:57:57  is true for ruby or C.
11:58:45  whereas prolog is designed with storage immutable by default, sort of like Haskell
11:59:46  hmm, now I wonder, is there an unlmabda extension that lets you mutate the bindings of a k or s?
12:00:31  I don't think so, but it would fit what seems to be the spirit of the language (which is to have something that seems at first neat and mathematically elegant, but then to add on features that are surprisingly hard to reason about and break the abstractions)
12:01:32  also, I am not sure I would describe Prolog's storage as immutable, it's more "narrowable"
12:01:43  in that variables start out undefined and your various operations on them make them more defined
12:03:01  <3 lazy evaluation
12:03:36  (it's not quite the same, since Prolog is happy to spit out such a "partial" result with a placeholder variable where the hole is)
12:03:45  (or holes)
12:04:19  ais523: right, assign-once storage. Rust has now added specific support for assign-once cells in its standard library.
12:04:36  it's more like assign-gradually storage
12:04:48  which is something that lots of programming languages feel like they could benefit from, but is hard to formalize
12:05:55  but isn't that assign gradually just made of data structures that contain multiple assign-once cells in it?
12:06:26  it probably isn't if you look at the implementation, but that's invisible
12:06:41  in very primitive Prologs, possibly – but in practial usage you have lots of assignments that work more like "X #> 4"
12:06:49  which narrow the range of something
12:07:18  ah you're talking about the finite domain constraint satisfaction extension
12:07:26  likewise, it's common to end up asserting that a list has at least X elements, which you can implement with assign-once cells if you use the car/cdr approach to list implementation, but which isn't how you normally think when programming it
12:08:01  I think the #> syntax is pretty common for all constraint satisfaction extensions, whether finite domain or not
12:09:07  ok
12:09:49  my point of view is probably skewed because I used prolog as a somewhat inconvenient language that I translate ordinary code into
12:10:15  with extra features that just get in my way
12:11:02  I mostly use prologs (and Brachylog in particular) in programming competitions (typically code golf), where constraints are often very useful
12:11:22  I have used the constraint solving for a puzzle once
12:11:44  to verify that the solution to a certain tiling puzzle is unique
12:13:13  plus I've met https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=940355 where someone else used prolog to solve a puzzle that I posed on the forum
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02:13:51  [[Sword]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123744&oldid=123725 * AnotherUser05 * (+33) /* Examples */
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02:26:57  [[Fixed Repeating Output]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123747 * AnotherUser05 * (+175) Created page with "Code that repeats a fixed amount of times given from input, while repeating, output 1, then output 0 afterwards.  This shows that the esolang can support fixed loops, and I/O."
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02:30:38  [[User:AnotherUser05]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123749&oldid=123726 * AnotherUser05 * (-30) /* my esolangs */
02:31:24  [[User:AnotherUser05]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123750&oldid=123749 * AnotherUser05 * (+58) /* my esolangs */
06:10:07  How to display X/Y coordinates and frame numbers in VLC?
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10:33:57  [[PRINT]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123751&oldid=121699 * None1 * (+431) /* Mascarpone interpreter */
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12:38:03  [[Olympus]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123753&oldid=123729 * Rottytooth * (+27) 
12:51:36  [[Putlines]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123754&oldid=123745 * Yourusername * (+0) /* Set line N to T */
12:55:31  [[Putlines]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123755&oldid=123754 * Yourusername * (+80) /* Set line N to C */
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12:58:26  [[Putlines]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123757&oldid=123756 * Yourusername * (+10) /* Loop */
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13:49:48  Hello?
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14:37:42  ~~ is it me you're looking for? ~~
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14:46:51  [[Olympus]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123761&oldid=123760 * Rottytooth * (+92) /* Concept */
15:07:21  [[Olympus]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123762&oldid=123761 * Rottytooth * (+28) /* Example Programs */
15:10:45  [[Captive]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123763&oldid=123705 * Rottytooth * (+27) added to categories
15:26:26  [[Fixed Repeating Output]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123764&oldid=123747 * AnotherUser05 * (+12) 
15:28:32  [[N10]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123765&oldid=123748 * AnotherUser05 * (+45) /* Adds two numbers */
15:28:41  [[N10]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123766&oldid=123765 * AnotherUser05 * (+2) /* Cat program */
15:28:48  [[N10]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123767&oldid=123766 * AnotherUser05 * (+2) /* Truth Machine */
15:28:55  [[N10]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123768&oldid=123767 * AnotherUser05 * (+1) /* Fixed Repeating Output */
15:29:25  [[N10]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123769&oldid=123768 * AnotherUser05 * (+0) /* Adds two numbers */
16:21:59  [[Marble run!!]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123770 * AnotherUser05 * (+991) Created page with "{{lowercase}} '''marble run!!''' is a 2D esolang created by [[User:AnotherUser05]].  ==Syntax== O is the marble, these have regular physics. Gravity, velocity, yeah, you get it.  *# - Wall. *+ - Increase the current value
16:23:14  [[Marble run!!]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123771&oldid=123770 * AnotherUser05 * (+59) 
17:14:42  [[User:AnotherUser05]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123772&oldid=123750 * AnotherUser05 * (+28) 
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17:24:14  [[Laser Pointer]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123774&oldid=123724 * AnotherUser05 * (+0) /* Truth Machine */
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20:21:37  [[Marble run!!]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123782&oldid=123781 * AnotherUser05 * (+69) 
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20:28:09  [[Pathfollow]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123784&oldid=123506 * AnotherUser05 * (+0) /* Truth Machine */
20:43:01  [[User:BoundedBeans/My Funge-98 fingerprints]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123785&oldid=120447 * BoundedBeans * (-337) Fixed some issues in the FOEA specification
20:52:35  [[Putlines]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123786&oldid=123758 * BestCoder * (+381) /* Loop */
20:53:03  [[Putlines]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123787&oldid=123786 * BestCoder * (+0) /* Or */
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21:01:11  [[Poplang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123792&oldid=123791 * BestCoder * (+31) /* Rules */
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02:11:05  [[Brainfuck+2]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123797&oldid=122777 * EvyLah * (+60) Brainfuck+3 was taken
05:41:12  [[Mode Spam]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123798&oldid=123714 * EvyLah * (+0) hold on I forgot to change from I to O
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11:06:34  [[Special:Log/newusers]] create  * KalDima *  New user account
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11:30:39  so you know there's this famous algorithm that you can use to detect if a linked list is looping, without using extra storage: have two iterators traversing the list, but one of them at double speed by stepping it twice each time you step the slow one, compare them after each step, if they ever become equal again after the start then there's a
11:30:39  loop.
11:31:23  but yesterday I learned that there's a more complete version of this, which you can use to find the first element that's part of the loop, and this one seems magical to me, it sounds like there's no way it should work.
11:34:22  so you just traverse with two pointers from the start, stepping the second one twice each time, like { x = y = begin; do { x++; y++; y++; } while (x != y); } then once they're equal start stepping them slow but also step a third pointer from the start, and compare after each step, like { z = begin; while (x != z) { x++; z++; } } and when they're
11:34:22  first equal they'll magically point to the first element of the loop.
11:34:51  have you heard of this algorithm? I expect some of you have. do you find it magical, like a weird coincidence that this happens to work?
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13:01:26  [["quote]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123810 * Cleverxia * (+8591) Created page with ""quote is an esolang that can only do inputs, prints and repetition.   ==Commands== "..." prints the quoted things.  q does the escaping (q" is character ", qn is newline).  u [[User:Cleverxia]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123811&oldid=123525 * Cleverxia * (+36) /* Current Esolangs I've created */
13:04:24  [["quote]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123812&oldid=123810 * Cleverxia * (+66) 
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15:10:52  [[Buttons]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123813 * AnotherUser05 * (+72) Created page with "{{WIP}} '''Buttons''' is a 2D esolang created by [[User:AnotherUser05]]."
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16:02:47  [[Buttons]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123814&oldid=123813 * AnotherUser05 * (+1148) 
16:03:13  [[User:AnotherUser05]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123815&oldid=123772 * AnotherUser05 * (+14) /* B */
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16:17:21  [[4est]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123817&oldid=118833 * BoundedBeans * (+3) Fixed example of ^Preprocess
16:22:14  [[4est]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123818&oldid=123817 * BoundedBeans * (+131) Added NLEscapeDelayStart(,->,<-), renamed NLEscapeDelayStart to NLEscapeDelayStart<->
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20:05:05  [[Buttons]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123821&oldid=123814 * AnotherUser05 * (+1) /* Syntax */
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20:26:41  b_jonas: I'd heard of it but couldn't remember the details
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20:28:22  but it isn't very surprising that it works: the distance that each of the first two pointers move before they meet has to be a multiple of the cycle length, so starting another pointer at that time puts the pointer a multiple of cycle lengths apart, and thus they'll always be at the same place whenever they're both on the cycle
20:28:55  because they obviously can't be in the same place when they aren't on the cycle, that means that the instant they first meet will be the instant the cycle starts
20:29:21  when a cycle is detected, slow is at index n, and fast is at index 2n, and the cycle length divides n... so you're starting at 0 again and at will check ahead by a multiple of the cycle length.
20:29:32  as for names... tortoise and hare?
20:29:55  the same algorithm has more than one common name
20:30:01  tortoise and hare algorithm is one of them
20:32:59  I used it at work once, because I needed to test some code that had a special case when there was a hash collision in the first 64 bits of a cryptographic hash
20:33:27  I remember someone used this algorithm to find hash collisions and it surprised me for a bit at first.
20:33:28  [[Spin4]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123826&oldid=123605 * Michael * (+20) 
20:33:51  so I needed a test case for that, i.e. a 64-bit collision against a sound hash function – that means trying around 4 billion possibilities and that's within range for brute force on a modern computer
20:33:56  So you have f^n(0) = f^2n(0)
20:34:05  and the memory-efficient way to do it is to just iterate hashes until you find a repeat
20:34:11  But the latter is also f^n(f^n(0))
20:34:29  I think that's the core of it maybe?
20:34:53  yep, the idea is that you start with something that isn't a valid output from the hash function (but is a valid input)
20:35:06  If you take n steps from 0 you'll reach the same point as if you take n steps from f^n(0)
20:35:18  So you can do it one at a time until you see the collision.
20:35:22  so once you see the same hash twice, it's guaranteed that at least two copies of it came from different preimages
20:35:53  In practice I think the distinguished point method is usually much better.
20:36:09  Also typing all this on a phone keyboard is awful
20:36:13  well, it worked (and the search didn't even take that long)
20:36:18  shachaf: sure, mostly because it can be parallelized
20:36:58  int-e: Right, though it also doesn't require as many computations of the function.
20:37:06  (it's for collisions, of course... not cycles) lambdas vs. rhos...
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20:37:41  Right, if you want a cycle I guess it's harder to parallelize!
20:37:46  shachaf: right but that's a small constant factor. the parallelization is the more important win.
20:39:19  Anyway I suspect we discussed all this at length a few years ago in the context of maybe breaking Data.Typeable? But 2^64 hashes just isn't a casual project, and the fast differential attacks don't seem to apply.
20:39:48  For sure
20:40:34  Man, how expensive are 2^64 hashes on modern GPUs?
20:42:57  dunno, here's a data point: https://gist.github.com/Chick3nman/e1417339accfbb0b040bcd0a0a9c6d54#file-h100_pcie_v6-2-6-benchmark-L33
20:43:27  6.7 years of that... enjoy
20:47:46  Apparently that GPU only costs a few tens of thousands of dollars.
20:47:58  That seems too slow actually... my 1060 reports 13147 MH/s.
20:52:57  *nod* yes, all those things you say above
20:53:18  or maybe the H100 just sucks for integer arithmetic
20:53:53  I see a report for 3080 where it's 54940.5 MH/s
20:55:03  anyway... even if it were 10 times faster it still wouldn't quite be a hobby project :P
20:56:28  I think my friend has a few 3090s he's not really using right now.
20:57:16  But I guess that's not really enough.
20:59:20  How much does a 3080 year cost?
21:00:23  Not going to compute it on my phone, but it sounds like you'd need ~10 of them?
21:01:00  To do this in a year? Yeah it's in that ballpark. There's a lot of uncertainty of course because hashcat is not looking for collisions.
21:01:24  You'd need 10 GPU years, I mean.
21:01:54  Yes.
21:02:10  But it can easily be off by a factor of 2, maybe even 3.
21:02:53  Right.
21:03:04  (Our f() has to re-encode a hash as UTF-32 made up of identifier friendly letters somehow. And probably has to hash 2 blocks...)
21:03:38  Sounds like a 5-figure project probably?
21:03:55  Yeah
21:04:28  That's a bit much just to be able to comment on my bug report telling them to switch to another hash.
21:04:34  is this something that can just be changed in a later ghc version? or does ghc come with some strong cross-version binary compatibility guarantees that make that hard?
21:04:53  nah they can just change this
21:05:15  ghc doesn't even have ABI guarantees for the same library compiled twice by the same compiler
21:06:50  int-e: ok, but maybe they also have some kind of serialization thing for writing data into a file and the format for that needs to stay compatible, at least in the sense that it can read back existing files
21:07:06  On the previous topic, there's also another algorithm for finding cycles that's supposed to be better, right?
21:07:31  Better than the tortoise and hare one, I mean.
21:08:03  shachaf: there's a version that uses exponential backup, checking f(2^n) = f(2^n + k) for 0 < k < 2^n. (different f)
21:08:05  shachaf: sure, if the stepping is expensive then store some or all the elements that you encounter in a hash table and look the new ones you meet
21:08:23  but even that can only save time by a constant factor
21:08:34  int-e: Right, that one.
21:12:55  It's kind of funny that people call the distinguished point algorithm "Pollard's Rho", given that it doesn't find a Rho, and that Pollard's original algorithm isn't able to use distinguished points.
21:13:54  shachaf: I've seen the letter lambda being used (the picture being that you have two strands of iterated f-s that merge together)
21:16:56  Yes, I think that's better.
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00:08:17  [[Befunge]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123832&oldid=122649 * Kleinesfilmrllchen * (+138) Add my own Rust interpreter; the fastest one in this language that's on the list
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00:28:40  [[Gray Snail]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123834&oldid=94102 * CreeperBomb * (+2) /* Cat */ Originally could only output the string "this"
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02:50:59  [[]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123838&oldid=123837 * AnotherUser05 * (+0) 
06:32:25  I wonder if Ayoheek has any strategy more interesting than rock paper scissors. Because a person might be close to victory with one of the options, and I don't know how that affects things
06:33:45  https://archive.guildofarchivists.org/wiki/Ahyoheek
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06:51:37  Imagining a 1v1, my opponent has 2 pens, and I have nothing. They can't get a pen and win immediately if I play beetle. But is that just... a delaying tactic until we're even and it becomes random?
06:58:48  [[Flooding Waterfall Model]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123839&oldid=115895 * Ais523 * (+83) /* Implementation in Magic: the Gathering */ make this section a little more self-contained, so I have something to link to if I want to demonstrate how ''Magic'' is Turing-complete
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09:59:09  [["quote]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123841&oldid=123812 * Cleverxia * (+6) /* Examples */
09:59:34  [[+-"quote]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123842&oldid=123840 * Cleverxia * (+2) /* Commands */
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12:27:02  [[KEYWORD]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123845&oldid=123794 * Nazalassa * (+34) Replaed link to BASIC by Wikipedia link (for a more explanatory page)
12:30:13  [[Funciton]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123846&oldid=123844 * Timwi * (+0) /* Fundamentals */ and again
12:35:14  [[Funciton]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123847&oldid=123846 * Timwi * (-197) More fixes
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13:32:28  [[User:None1]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123853&oldid=123849 * None1 * (+87) /* What I dislike */
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13:40:10  is subleq considered an esolang?
13:48:08  [[Funciton]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123854&oldid=123847 * Timwi * (+244) Update/reorganize functions section
13:48:54  [[Funciton]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123855&oldid=123854 * Timwi * (+0) sorting
13:52:18  [[Expansion]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123856&oldid=123806 * None1 * (+735) /* Print 1048576 A's */
13:55:40  [[Truth-machine]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123857&oldid=123513 * None1 * (+234) /* Exotic */
13:58:00  [[A+B Problem]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123858&oldid=123667 * None1 * (+969) /* enGLish */
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14:46:45  Probably? I mean, it's all subjective. But we have a pretty large category of OISCs in the Wiki: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:OISC
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16:03:52  [[+-"quote]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123860&oldid=123842 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+90) Categories
16:05:23  [["quote]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123861&oldid=123859 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+29) See also
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16:14:30  [[User:AnotherUser05]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123863&oldid=123815 * AnotherUser05 * (+10) 
16:17:34  [[Ice box]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123864&oldid=123722 * AnotherUser05 * (+35) /* Examples */
16:23:53  [[Ice box]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123865&oldid=123864 * AnotherUser05 * (+47) 
16:24:49  [[Ice box]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123866&oldid=123865 * AnotherUser05 * (+3) /* Fixed Repeating Output */
16:28:59  [[Laser Pointer]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123867&oldid=123774 * AnotherUser05 * (+12) /* Cat Program */
16:29:21  [[Laser Pointer]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123868&oldid=123867 * AnotherUser05 * (+0) /* Cat Program */
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17:31:46  [[Truer machine]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123870&oldid=123869 * Infinitehexagon * (+10) 
17:31:57  [[Truer machine]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123871&oldid=123870 * Infinitehexagon * (+2) /* NOT gate */
17:32:21  [[Truer machine]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123872&oldid=123871 * Infinitehexagon * (+3) /* NOT gate */
17:33:02  [[User:Infinitehexagon]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123873&oldid=122853 * Infinitehexagon * (+22) /* My Esolangs (chronological order) */
17:36:42  [[Language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123874&oldid=123807 * Infinitehexagon * (+15) /* X */
17:37:36  [[Language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123875&oldid=123874 * Infinitehexagon * (+0) /* X */
17:44:38  [[Truer machine]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123876&oldid=123872 * Infinitehexagon * (+592) 
17:46:43  [[Truer machine]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123877&oldid=123876 * Infinitehexagon * (+39) 
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18:42:38  `"
18:42:41  1/1:94)  alise: nobody is allowed to fnord me in soviet russia \ 278)  o.O   There's a birth defect which results in the formation of a cloaca.   It's called "not being a mammal" :P
18:43:41  `w
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18:55:13  [[Special:Log/newusers]] create  * Qawtykit *  New user account
19:01:31  [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123878&oldid=123831 * Qawtykit * (+111) /* Introductions */
19:02:18  [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123879&oldid=123878 * Qawtykit * (+52) 
19:05:34  [[User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123880&oldid=123578 * Qawtykit * (+94) 
19:07:14  [[User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123881&oldid=123880 * Qawtykit * (+61) 
19:11:04  [[User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123882&oldid=123881 * Qawtykit * (+22) 
19:42:23  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123883&oldid=121937 * Qawtykit * (+195) noticed this had nothing so i fixed that
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19:43:48  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123884&oldid=123883 * Qawtykit * (+55) being clear
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19:46:36  [[A+B Problem]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123885&oldid=123858 * EvyLah * (+1) /* Mode Spam */ update
19:47:21  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123886&oldid=123884 * Qawtykit * (+40) strings in the stack
19:47:35  [[A+B Problem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123887&oldid=123885 * EvyLah * (+0) 
19:48:07  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123888&oldid=123886 * Qawtykit * (+0) /* Instructions */  did not wanna make another edit but fixed a little mistake
19:48:23  [[A+B Problem]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123889&oldid=123887 * EvyLah * (+0) 
19:50:37  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123890&oldid=123888 * Qawtykit * (+65) ok i swear this is the last one i added a creator coluum to the table
19:52:33  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123891&oldid=123890 * Qawtykit * (-55) /* Instructions */  i dont think i have to be clear actually
20:05:07  [[User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123892&oldid=123882 * Qawtykit * (+99) 
20:05:36  [[User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123893&oldid=123892 * Qawtykit * (-16) 
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20:34:53  [[Soh supplementary private use area-b u+10fffe]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123895&oldid=115627 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+73) Categories
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20:41:45  [[Everett]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123896&oldid=40115 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-60) /* Examples */ Formatting
20:48:00  [[Everett]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123897&oldid=123896 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+13) Deadlink
20:52:21  [[User:EvyLah]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123898&oldid=123616 * EvyLah * (+349) how do I get syntax highlighting
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23:40:06  [[User talk:EvyLah]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123900&oldid=123219 * None1 * (+482) /* Syntax Highlighting */ new section
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23:44:50  [[User talk:EvyLah]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123902&oldid=123901 * None1 * (+1115) /* Syntax Highlighting */  Added an example of non-automatic syntax highlighting
23:45:47  [[User talk:EvyLah]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123903&oldid=123902 * None1 * (+1) /* Syntax Highlighting */
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04:02:04  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_natural_numbers 0 * infinity = 0??????? 
04:13:25  that way you get a semiring.
04:31:42  Think of it as elements of the type [()] in Haskell.
04:32:11  plus a b = a ++ b
04:32:21  times a b = [() | _ <- a, _ <- b]
04:32:52  > let inf = repeat (); zero = []; times a b = [() | _ <- a, _ <- b] in (zero `times` inf, inf `times` zero)
04:32:58   mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
04:33:03  > let inf = repeat (); zero = []; times a b = [() | _ <- a, _ <- b] in zero `times` inf
04:33:04   []
04:33:31  (it's not a great model for this)
04:35:23  Oh man, you're completely right.
04:37:00  doing this with cardinalities works though
04:37:25  (up to aleph_0)
04:38:30  Hmm, so multiplication is computable, right? It's just not the thing I said?
04:38:45  But I'm wondering whether there's a nice way to write it that makes it clear this is the right behavior.
04:40:16  Well you can use your favorite enumeration of N^2.
04:41:00  Ugh, it's been so long since I even did any Haskell things.
04:42:07  > let times [] _ = []; times (_:as) bs = bs ++ times bs as; zero = []; inf = repeat () in (zero `times` inf, inf `times` zero)
04:42:09   ([],[])
04:42:39  times bs as
04:42:44  (not an enumeration of NxN but good enough for this)
04:42:45  Too sneaky.
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09:42:40  bwahahah, this is great! so you know how metric paper comes in sizes of A0 to A6 where An means the longer side is 2**(n/2+1/4) meters and the shorter is 2**(n/2-1/4) meters, A5 is used for schoolchildren to practice writing, A4 is ordinary typewriter paper that most official letters are written on and photocopies made, A3 to A0 are used for arts and technical drawings, right? and there's a second 
09:42:46  series of sizes B0 to B6 where Bn is in the middle between An and A(n-1) so the longer side is 2**(n/2+1/2) meters and the shorter is 2**(n/2) meters;
09:45:36  There are also C and D series. I don't recall how they're defined exactly, but by area, D(n) < A(n) < C(n) < B(n) IIRC.
09:45:36  sorry, wrong formulas, An has longer side 2**(-n/2+1/4) meter and shorter side 2**(-n/2-1/4) meter; Bn has longer side 2**(-n/2+1/2) meter and shorter side 2**(-n/2) meter
09:45:49  yes, I'm getting there, that's the interesting part
09:45:59  Ah :-)
09:49:51  the C series from C0 to C7 is such that Cn has the size between An and Bn, longer size 2**(-n/2+3/8) meter and shorter size 2**(-n/2-1/8) meter, so it's used for envelopes: C6 is the typical envelope for personal letters because an A4 paper folded in quarter so it's A6 size fits in it, and incidentally forint notes have a size so they just fit into them lengthwise so the envelopes are convenient for 
09:49:57  bribes; C5 is used for some personal letters, and C4 is used for official letters that have lots of pages such as the ones the tax bureau used to send you before they went mostly electric, though the most common size for official letters isn't among these series.
09:50:57  But we're just getting to the fun part. These names An, Bn, Cn come from an ISO standard called ISO 216, and that ISO standard doesn't define a D series. There are *two* definitions for the D series that are incompatible with each other!
09:51:50  Oh
09:53:49  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_size#Swedish_extensions defines Dn with longer side 2**(-n/2+5/8) and shorter side 2**(-n/2+1/8)
09:54:15  I'll add that the most common size for official letters varies by country. In Germany, yeah, the 'fold A4 into three' envelopes (whatever they're called) are most common. In Switzerland, it's almost always C5.  Also, B4 envelopes exist so you can ship tax forms to someone and they can use the enclosed C4 envelope to return it. :-)
09:54:19  while https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_size#DIN_D defines Dn with longer side 2**(-n/2+1/8) and shorter side 2**(-n/2-3/8)
09:55:18  so Dn is ambiguous and probably best not used as a name for paper size, you'd better just specify explicit sizes
09:57:04  Huh
09:57:59  > the sequence of formats A4, E4, C4, G4, B4, F4, D4, *H4, A3 is a geometric progression, in which the dimensions grow by a factor 2^(1/16) from one size to the next.
09:58:00   :1:14: error: parse error on input ‘of’
09:58:04  On the Swedish one
09:58:08  Neat!
09:58:23  Except for the totally random order of the letters, that is.
09:58:31  JAA: yes, and they don't define an H series, which leaves open the possibility for two more standards to define them in incompatible ways
09:58:44  Hehe
09:59:07  it's not really a random order since A, B, C was already defined before that
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10:00:32  Right, but E "DL" is the 110mmx220mm envelope size, apparently.
10:01:10  hey, you know what? Dn is ambiguous, and H is unused, so let's rename the german Dn to Hn so it's an unambiguous way to refer to D sizes!
10:02:39  It's a mess.
10:02:47  > the other formats have not turned out to be particularly useful in practice.
10:02:48   :1:65: error: parse error on input ‘in’
10:02:51  
10:03:24 * JAA pats lambdabot.
10:03:52  Oh right, I had forgotten about the 2A0 and 4A0 formats that nobody ever uses.
10:04:01  or we should just say A4.5 instead of B5; and say A4.25 instead of C4
10:04:17  then we don't need to remember how multiple letters are defined, we only need the A series
10:04:51  That'd be nice.
10:05:23  JAA: https://bigartandbanners.com/poster-printing/2a0-poster-printing.html
10:05:33  JAA: I'm not convinced about the “nobody ever uses”. printers for A0 are available in most photocopy shops here because engineer or architect students use it for homework all the time, so if it's that common than it's unlikely that nobody uses the size one larger
10:05:41  "that nobody ever uses"
10:05:45  and yes, advertisers probably use the larger sizes
10:05:47  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123957&oldid=123941 * 97202 * (-1) 
10:06:10  though of course I'll call that A(-1) rather than some other stupid abbreviation
10:07:24  and if you don't like A(-1) then I'll just say 1.68 meters times 1.19 meters
10:07:25  Yeah, they're probably used more often than, say, B0 through B3. But still, very rare.
10:07:57  it's useful to standardize rare use cases
10:08:19  Not sure advertisers use larger sizes typically. The ones I've seen were usually made from multiple smaller parts.
10:08:22  let me try to find the discussion we had for abbreviations of screen resolutions 
10:08:48  No idea what size those were though, didn't pay close attention to that.
10:09:13  int-e: I didn't mean to imply otherwise. :-)
10:10:46  https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2021-10.html#lnX
10:10:51  Of course billboards are their own proprietary mess. https://www.papersizes.org/billboard-sizes.htm
10:11:10  stars at https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2021-10.html#lKW
10:11:53  int-e: they're advertisers, they deserve to suffer in a hell of incomprehensible standards whose meanings they can't figure out, I think it's karmic
10:13:21  I mean it was more me ranting than a "discussion"
10:13:42  Ah, those abbreviations, yeah. I've always ignored them since they wanted to convince me 'Full HD' was something else than 'HD'. That annoyed me enough already.
10:14:26  that was when I was buying a new monitor because my previous one died, and I saw these abbreviations in the online shop
10:14:33  monitors? at the end of the day I look at the resolution
10:14:38  so it wasn't like idle curiosity
10:14:52  yes, luckily the online shop was sensible enough to list that too
10:14:55  (and size)
10:15:02  in decimal numbers
10:15:18  PCMCIA (people can't memorize computer industry acronyms)
10:16:02  (I also remember what it actually stands for... because of this joke.)
10:16:03  Do we open the can of worms that is 'screen diagonal' or not?
10:16:45  JAA: you mean how a 22" 16:9 monitor has 6% less area than a 22" 4:3 monitor?
10:16:55  Yeah, that kind of thing.
10:17:10  And also how they get weirdly rounded to get 'nicer' numbers.
10:17:25  I found out earlier that Framework's '13' devices are actually 13.5".
10:18:01  Err, wrong number, it's 11%.
10:18:32  The 6% number is how much longer the diagonal is at the same area.
10:18:39  Ah, yeah
10:19:26  > sqrt $ (4*3/(4^2+3^2))/(16*9/(16^2+9^2))
10:19:28   1.0598742063723097
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10:21:02  Hmm do they sell the ultra-widw 32:9 monitors by diagonal length too?
10:21:23  (I never wanted one so I don't know.)
10:21:32  I think they do, yeah.
10:22:09  int-e: if so than they got hit by their own terminology, because those monitors are usually curved, and curving makes the diagonal shorter
10:22:19  . o O ( And when they're curved, do they use a screen space diagonal or a space diagonal... )
10:22:53  b_jonas: honestly I think they'll use the screen space diagonal then
10:23:10  Just checked one of the largest online stores for electronics, yep, curved ultra-wide monitors do get a diagonal alright, whatever it is.
10:23:31  (One of the largest here*)
10:23:44  if they used space, then a 360 deg wrap around screen would have diagonal equal to height:(
10:24:04  int-e: wouldn't that be dishonest and won't they get sued for false advertising? the crow flies diagonal is what you see unless you're viewing the monitor from an unhealthy close distance 
10:24:29  'Screen curvature: 1000R, 1500R, 1800R, 3800R'  uh?
10:24:56  b_jonas: measuring across a surface seems reasonable enough to me
10:25:04  Radius of curvature in millimetre, makes sense.
10:25:48  Oh, bonus points, I get a 'display size' in inches and a 'screen size' in cm.
10:25:49  there's also "35 mm equivalent focal length", which is defined such that a camera and lens combo with 35 mm focal length d has a view angle of 2*arctan(36 mm / (2*d)) on the longer side and 2*arctan(24 mm / (2*d)) on the shorter side if the sensor has 4:3 aspect ratio, but an indeterminate view angle roughly close to that if the sensor has any other aspect ratio
10:25:51  awkward notation for something natural, got it.
10:26:58  the "35 mm" name comes from how the film on which you took 36 mm × 24 mm frame size photos had a gross 35 mm width including the holes for cogwheels, in the direction that the frame is 24 mm tall
10:27:47  > Specifications may include unverified machine translations.
10:27:49   :1:60: error:
10:27:49       parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets)
10:27:50  Thanks, I hate it.
10:28:33  do they say what it was translated from?
10:28:46  Of course not.
10:28:52  cool
10:29:02  But likely German
10:29:05  what do they think "specification" means?
10:30:53  and there's the freedom of sign convention for astigmatism: the left lens of my glasses has -10.0 diopters spherical plus -2.0 diopters cylindrical according to my optometrist, but -12.0 diopters spherical plus +2.0 diopters cylindrical according to the lens vendor. this one at least partially makes sense: the lens vendor uses the convention that lets you figure out how thick piece of special glass they 
10:30:59  have to start from, which determines who expensive a machine they need to grind it to the right shape.
10:31:02  [[LZ]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123958&oldid=121267 * Pro465 * (+108) made idx signed and len unsigned. also expanded cases when an instruction is ignored
10:31:13  So this one monitor (Samsung S49AG950NU) with 32:9 and 1000R curvature has a 49" diagonal. They specify a 'visible screen area' of 34 dm^2.
10:35:10  [[LZ]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123959&oldid=123958 * Pro465 * (+2) /* Instruction */
10:37:42 * JAA is too tired to do this calculation right now.
10:37:47  I've seen those big curved 32:9 monitors because the CEOs bought themselves some at work. I wouldn't like one. Luckily they gave me a very fancy 16:9 ratio 27 inch diagonal 3840×2160 pixel resolution monitor, not one of the silly curved wide ones. 
10:38:05  I'd think it could be pretty nice for gaming.
10:38:34  Covering your entire field of view etc.
10:40:49  dunno, I don't play those fast paced first person shooter games
10:41:14  JAA: as long as they don't put importan UI elements at the left and right edges of the screen
10:41:46  Yeah, those areas would be just for peripheral vision.
10:41:48  (which they probably don't because these silly monitors have been around for a while... but I suspect that was a problem initially)
10:42:20  I'd expect so, yeah. 'We have soo much space now to put all our buttons!'
10:42:57  will I ever finish this silly thing I wonder... https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/shapez-todo.png
10:43:17  https://stickman.qntm.org/comics.php?n=10
10:43:36  int-e: what is that? 
10:44:24  b_jonas: Btw I don't know how they actually measure the screen diagonals. It's a trade-off between a larger number and dealing with customers complaining about the diagonal being too short because actually measuring across the curved screen space is hard.
10:45:50  "It takes me ten minutes to move the mouse pointer from one side of the screen to the other." and "My mouse mat is the size of a hockey rink."
10:45:51  b_jonas: It's the first stages of my true MAM project that I thought I could finish last year... there's still three stacking steps left, plus logic for that.
10:46:30  int-e: what throughput of MAM will that be?
10:47:13  I also started a new shapez game, but I have very little built from the MAM, mostly just the constant shape and color sources
10:47:26  b_jonas: 1 belt, though it wouldn't be too much extra work to make it produce 2 belts for the ordinary shapes.
10:48:28  oh, is this the one that you want to turn to a universal shape maker?
10:48:39  one that can make any shape, not just freeplay shapes
10:49:10  b_jonas: I've actually thought of another ultimate challenge for this game... a copy machine (take one belt of input, replicate the shapes on that belt in order). Because then you get all the pipelining opportunities that the main game doesn't provide.
10:49:31  oh, that would be very hard
10:49:52  it's definitely possible
10:50:18  but it's hard to get it to work if you allow the input belt at full speed
10:50:33  (and don't lose any shapes, but that's presumably by definition)
10:50:57  b_jonas: and yes, this is the one that's supposed to make all possible shapes.
10:51:14  do you want it full speed, or would you just slow down the belt to however fast you can produce the copies?
10:52:08  b_jonas: the copier? the speed (up to a full belt at full speed) would be one of the metrics to compete on.
10:53:30  It's a pretty safe bet that I'm never going to actually make such a copier.
10:54:04  the prospect is rather intimidating :)
10:54:39  yes it is
11:51:00  (there are ways to scale this down... like, make a copier that can deal with the 32 painted or unpainted basic shapes)
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13:29:31  [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123960&oldid=123879 * AlexUI * (+69) AlexUI's introduction.
14:00:07  [[LZ]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123961&oldid=123959 * Pro465 * (+210) /* Python Intepreter */ add simpler interpreter
14:17:50  [[Thief, Police and the Building]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123962&oldid=115506 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+949) Supplemented a Kiwiscript example program.
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14:26:59  [[Dot-Peachy]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123964 * AlexUI * (+1531) Creation of the DTP entry in the eso-lang wiki.
14:27:02  [[Thief, Police and the Building]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123965&oldid=123963 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+1) Rectified two mistakes in the movement command listing.
14:27:26  [[Dot-Peachy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123966&oldid=123964 * AlexUI * (+3) Fix.
14:29:45  [[Dot-Peachy]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123967&oldid=123966 * AlexUI * (+70) Interpreter URL.
14:30:27  [[Dot-Peachy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123968&oldid=123967 * AlexUI * (+3) Fix.
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15:33:36  [[Everyonelang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123970&oldid=123969 * Qawtykit * (-9) this is definitely not a stub anymore
15:36:38  [[Everyonelang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123971&oldid=123970 * Qawtykit * (+1) forgot a colon lol
15:49:00  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123972&oldid=123971 * Qawtykit * (+131) concatenation command
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17:19:38  [[SKVERSE]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123974 * BestCoder * (+526) Created page with "SKVERSE (SKip and reVERSE) is a programming language that uses skip and reverse to do stuff: = Stuff = == Skip == Skips a command  skip  print "this will not be ran" == Reverse == Reverses the direction of the code  print "start" #runs at the start  skip #skips reverse
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17:36:23  [[SKVERSE]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123976&oldid=123975 * BestCoder * (+936) /* Start */
17:37:19  [[SKVERSE]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123977&oldid=123976 * BestCoder * (+10) /* Split */
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17:55:02  [[Flij]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123978&oldid=108445 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+91) Categories
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22:01:20  [[Bouncy]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123979 * Mercerenies * (+12480) Created page with "'''Bouncy''' is a 2D esoteric programming language centered around controlling how the instruction pointer interacts with walls. The Bouncy programming language and its official interpreter are designed by [[User:Mercerenies]].  == Overview ==  A Bouncy program func
22:01:49  [[User:Mercerenies]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123980&oldid=106977 * Mercerenies * (+13) 
22:03:05  [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123981&oldid=123894 * Mercerenies * (+13) Bouncy Lang
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23:14:00  [[MultiBrain]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123982&oldid=123940 * None1 * (+58) 
23:14:10  [[MultiBrain]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123983&oldid=123982 * None1 * (+0) /* Write Character To Previous Program */
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10:57:48  [[Kiwiscript]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123990&oldid=116104 * None1 * (+56) 
10:58:26  [[Kiwiscript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123991&oldid=123990 * None1 * (+10) /* See also */
11:07:38  [[No.js]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123992 * None1 * (+733) Created page with "No.js is a joke esolang invented by [[u User:None1]], it is like JavaScript, except that {{cd|console.log}} prints out {{cd|No.}} instead. ==Examples== ===[[Hello, World!]]=== {{cd|console.log}} is unusable, yet you can still use {{cd|console.warn}}:  console.warn("Hello, Wo
11:08:02  [[No.js]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123993&oldid=123992 * None1 * (-2) 
11:10:44  [[Joke language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123994&oldid=123646 * None1 * (+60) /* General languages */
11:11:24  [[User:None1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123995&oldid=123853 * None1 * (+60) /* My Esolangs */
11:13:32  [[No.js]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=123996&oldid=123993 * None1 * (+29) /* Computational class */
12:03:12  [[Talk:Translated CSharp]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123997 * None1 * (+1567) Created page with "Translated program: 
 /. If you want to read Chen Wenlian, you need C\ */ Using the system Using the system.  Is it! Reading is like a document, reading. { Le Xingbo Sea God. { (Some beauty brewing. In the morning, sing the two volumes of the harem, (y 
12:09:43  [[Talk:Translated Julia]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123998 * None1 * (+1706) Created page with "Translated program: 
 Its body volume is calculated to be sturdy, The operation of this system, Allowing the use of swords to strengthen the character, following the will of Emperor Guangwu, to stir up turbidity and promote clarity. So you can use "lyu t
12:15:04  [[Talk:Translated Batch]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=123999 * None1 * (+1647) Created page with "Translated program: 
 Sound off Lice supply Submit gameplay examples to clean up the eight CEOs using Gaduo CK. trixter@oldskool.org Rem (Jishou, Renard). As for having it, please make sure to inform us in more detail. True name. Two sections of total ra
12:15:56  [[Talk:Translated Python]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124000&oldid=119497 * None1 * (+89) /* Hello! */
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12:54:33  [[RUNNER]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124003&oldid=124002 * Yourusername * (+5) 
12:55:12  [[RUNNER]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124004&oldid=124003 * Yourusername * (-18) 
12:55:45  [[RUNNER]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124005&oldid=124004 * Yourusername * (+46) 
13:17:33  [[Kiwiscript]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124006&oldid=123991 * 97202 * (+75) 
13:24:55  [[Talk:Brainfuck bitwidth conversions]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124007&oldid=31205 * None1 * (+230) /* Do 1->2 Compact copy and 1->4 Compact copy work */ new section
13:35:17  [[BFFuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124008&oldid=123582 * None1 * (-978) /* External Resources */  Synchronize link with repo
13:45:55  [[BFFuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124009&oldid=124008 * None1 * (+116) /* External Resources */  F**K reStructuredText
13:46:37  [[BFFuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124010&oldid=124009 * None1 * (+1) /* External Resources */
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14:18:06  [[MIX]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124012&oldid=74597 * B jonas * (+9) proper template for disambiguation
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15:15:05  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124011&oldid=97043 this is one of the funniest disambiguation notes that I've ever added to an article
15:18:28  [[Qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=124013 * Infinitehexagon * (+576) Created page with "'''Qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm''' or QAZ for short is an esolang designed by [[Usre:Infinitehexagon || Infinitehexagon]] to be very very cursed as possible. It has 17 accumulators with unbounded cells. [[Category:2024]][[Category:Languages]]{{WI
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18:35:10  [[A very minimal esolang with a very few amount of instructions]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124014&oldid=123249 * 0ptr * (+220) 
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20:17:38  [[Toki pi ilo nanpa]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124015&oldid=115458 * Olus2000 * (-5) Changed implementation to be marked as reference
20:19:02  [[Dot-Peachy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124016&oldid=123985 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+93) Stub, categories
20:19:49  [[Brainfuck Encoded Concatenative Calculus]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124017&oldid=109446 * Olus2000 * (-5) Changed implementation to be marked as reference
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21:27:19  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124019&oldid=123972 * EvyLah * (+235) -76 is the best number
21:47:31  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124020&oldid=124019 * EvyLah * (+1022) parameter types and -76 update
21:48:35  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124021&oldid=124020 * EvyLah * (+57) 
21:50:41  [[Everyonelang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124022&oldid=124021 * EvyLah * (+20) made the table thingy look a bit better
21:51:44  [[Talk:Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124023&oldid=123937 * EvyLah * (+207) 
21:53:19  [[Everyonelang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124024&oldid=124022 * EvyLah * (+52) said that jumping to char 1000 will end (this is used in the truth machine so I had to add it)
22:00:24  [[A very minimal esolang with a very few amount of instructions]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124025&oldid=124014 * EvyLah * (+206) cod3breaker
22:11:42  [[Talk:Anti-Machine language]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=124026 * EvyLah * (+267) Created page with "If I have an interpreter, should I just add it? I made one in ><>: 
 >i:01-=?v00. v       < >0r>:~?v"Machine detected, fail to run"v    ^   <;ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooor< 
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23:04:09  [[Talk:Anti-Machine language]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124027&oldid=124026 * None1 * (+95) Yes, you can
23:07:06  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124028&oldid=123649 * None1 * (+21) /* Base Specs */
23:10:19  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124029&oldid=124028 * None1 * (+212) /* Commands */
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00:50:26  [[Dot-Peachy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124031&oldid=124016 * AlexUI * (-1) Quick fix.
00:59:11  [[Dot-Peachy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124032&oldid=124031 * AlexUI * (+164) colors
01:16:46  [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124033&oldid=123960 * Obuqwe * (+223) /* Introductions */
01:16:57  [[User:Obuqwe]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=124034 * Obuqwe * (+1022) Created page with "==== Hi! i'm obuqwe ==== I'm an amature programmer and newbie esolanger, hoping to make something interesting = Esolang projects = note: this is a list of esolang ideas that i intend to impliment in some way, if i documented here every esolang idea i had it'd just be
01:18:29  [[User:Obuqwe]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124035&oldid=124034 * Obuqwe * (+23) /* ideas brewing: */
01:19:25  [[User:Obuqwe]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124036&oldid=124035 * Obuqwe * (+1) /* ending notes */
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11:18:28  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124040&oldid=124039 * Cleverxia * (+37) /* Base Specs */ how to prevent conflict?
11:29:56  [[Talk:Dot-Peachy]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=124041 * None1 * (+210) /* year */ new section
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11:59:00  [[ASCIIfuck]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124044&oldid=124043 * Cleverxia * (+1) /* Hello world */
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13:46:57  [[User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124046&oldid=124042 * None1 * (-1) /* Commands */  typo
13:49:20  [[Anti-Machine language]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124047&oldid=116907 * None1 * (+137) /* Implementations (?) */
13:50:03  [[Talk:Anti-Machine language]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124048&oldid=124027 * None1 * (+70) 
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21:57:25  [[CES files]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124052&oldid=116842 * BestCoder * (+247) /* PlusOrMinus */
22:43:47  [[User]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124053&oldid=107291 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+4) Link
22:45:39  [[Scroll]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124054&oldid=88616 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) User link
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02:01:50  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124057&oldid=124024 * Qawtykit * (+737) made some minor edits to my commands, added a command generated by chatgpt, and a pro tips section and other stuff
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02:08:43  [[Codack]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=124059 * BestCoder * (+494) Created page with "Codack (CODing stACK) uses Codacks to do stuff = Codack stuff = == Codack format == Codacks are formatted like this /\[((|(\d+))(,(|(\d+)))*)?\]/
 examples that are formatted correctly:  [1,2,3,5]  [code,3,code,9]  [code,code,code,code]  []  
02:09:07  [[Codack]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124060&oldid=124059 * BestCoder * (+0) /* Codack format */
02:09:29  [[Codack]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124061&oldid=124060 * BestCoder * (-1) /* Codack format */
02:10:43  [[Codack]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124062&oldid=124061 * BestCoder * (-10) 
02:11:23  [[Codack]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124063&oldid=124062 * BestCoder * (+6) 
02:11:38  [[Codack]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124064&oldid=124063 * BestCoder * (-1) 
02:19:54  [[Talk:Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124065&oldid=124023 * Qawtykit * (+257) /* the truth-machine */ new section
02:20:46  [[Codack]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124066&oldid=124064 * BestCoder * (+523) /* Codack format */
02:24:03  [[Codack]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124067&oldid=124066 * BestCoder * (+145) /* Codack Interactions */
02:27:12  [[Everyonelang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124068&oldid=124058 * Qawtykit * (-51) changed the truth-machine explanation to use -1 instead of 1000 because it's less bytes, and to output 0 instead of the input variable because i'm paranoid there's an error for some reason
02:33:21  [[Everyonelang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124069&oldid=124068 * Qawtykit * (+6) 
02:38:33  [[Everyonelang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124070&oldid=124069 * Qawtykit * (+15) 
06:21:11  [[Bit Stupid]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124071&oldid=95142 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+59) Categories
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13:55:41  [[Polyglot]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124077&oldid=124076 * None1 * (+146) /* External resources */  Add 7 esolang + python polyglot
14:33:42  [[Chagz]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=124078 * PaxtonPenguin * (+27) Created page with "Me when your mom"
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15:37:00  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124081&oldid=124051 * Infinitehexagon * (+60) 
15:37:41  [[BFInfinity]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124082&oldid=124081 * Infinitehexagon * (-4) 
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16:46:16  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124085&oldid=124080 * EvyLah * (+129) made some things a little more consistent and added the not enough parameter error msg
16:48:12  [[Everyonelang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124086&oldid=124085 * EvyLah * (-17) changed bf command syntax cuz it was kinda bad
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17:59:15  [[Codack]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124088&oldid=124067 * Yourusername * (+0) /* Codack Examples */
18:09:41  [[ZISC ultra]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=124089 * Yourusername * (+290) Created page with "ZISC ultra uses lines and one instruction to do stuff {| class="wikitable" |+ Cases |- ! Case !! Description |- | % || increment accumulator by 1 then mod it by 8 |- |  || run the thing based on accumulator in BF [0: >, 1: <, 2: +, 3: -,
18:13:51  [[ZISC ultra]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124090&oldid=124089 * Yourusername * (+106) 
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18:21:03  [[ZISC ultra]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124092&oldid=124091 * Yourusername * (+1) 
18:22:31  [[ZISC ultra]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124093&oldid=124092 * Yourusername * (-80) /* Example */
18:24:20  [[ZISC ultra]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124094&oldid=124093 * Yourusername * (+46) 
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18:42:25  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124095&oldid=124087 * Qawtykit * (-7) feel free to add more changes that occur when LTM is on
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22:55:53  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124097&oldid=124095 * Qawtykit * (+447) Added File I/O
22:57:37  [[Everyonelang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124098&oldid=124097 * Qawtykit * (+76) 
23:03:14  [[FBF]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=124099 * None1 * (+27) Redirected page to [[FuckBrainfuck]]
23:04:20  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124100&oldid=124098 * Qawtykit * (+105) 
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02:20:15  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124102&oldid=124101 * Qawtykit * (+74) making sure F is the only command for file I/O you will ever need
02:54:50  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124103&oldid=124102 * Qawtykit * (+97) 
03:33:38  I hate poking around in Firefox's CSS... but it's usable for me again. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1877422#c3 :-) (Maybe I should make a theme.)
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09:31:52  [[Talk:Translated ORK]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=124104 * MihaiEso * (+1157) Created page with "Wow. ~~~~  What I did was:  
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11:39:08  oh darn it. so the Microsoft VBA (Visual Basic for Applications) editor likes to reformat the code. it normalizes all the horizontal whitespace, so you can't keep stuff aligned vertically across lines (it keeps the indentation at the start of a line, as well as the horizontal position of where extra statements start if you put more than one in a
11:39:08  line). it normalizes integer constants by removing their leading zeroes and redundant type sigils, which means you can't just write &H01000000& so the reader can tell which position the one bit is easily, the editor changes it to &H1000000& and good luck counting those zeroes. It normalizes the case of identifiers that are either builtins or exist
11:39:09  in the application interface, which gets ugly when two different identifiers that differ only in their case exist in the interface and the editor keeps changing them randomly, including re-changing them in functions that you aren't even editing when you write the identifier elsewhere.
11:39:33  it changes "EndIf" to "End If". so far these are annoying but at least they don't change the semantics of the code.
11:41:01  but I just found out that there's a case when the editor even edits the code in a way that changes the meaning of the code: it truncates 32-bit float literals to 7 significant decimal digits, even though you need 8 digits to be able to represent any value.
11:43:15  that I won't stand for, and even though in this particular case my literals don't need much precision, I'm going to write them as string constants that I numify later
11:44:32  sure, I could just write them as double-precision float literals instead, but I refuse
12:06:07  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124105&oldid=124103 * None1 * (+317) /* Instructions */
12:07:05  [[Everyonelang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124106&oldid=124105 * None1 * (+2) /* Instructions */
12:08:56  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124107&oldid=124106 * None1 * (+86) /* Error messages */
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12:12:55  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124108&oldid=124107 * None1 * (+75) /* Examples */
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12:28:49  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124109&oldid=124108 * None1 * (+211) /* Count from 1 to 100 */
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12:43:39  VBA was one of the first programming languages I learned, so I didn't see the reformatting as odd at the time
12:44:20  (and many of the previous languages had been other BASICs, many of which also reformat the code – I think it's fairly common for BASICs to store the program in tokenized form so they don't actually know what the whitespace was when the program was entered)
12:59:05  sure, a lot of VBA, including the reformatting, is inherited from previous Microsoft Basics. you can tell that from the numeric error codes. the most common error number is 5, called "Invalid function call", which you get for basically any runtime error that they didn't bother to assign a specific error code. the error numbers used to be assigned
12:59:05  contiguously from 1 up, with more common errors getting a lower code (sort of like with unix errno codes), so one of the most common error codes used to be 2 (still the same as unix errno codes) meaning syntax error, but since that's a compile-time error it no longer has an error code, because you can't catch it in runtime, so that code is no
12:59:06  longer used.
13:01:21  there are a lot of other compatibility features that you can find, including how val("3D2") returns 3E2: in older basics the exponent letter used to be D for double precision and E for single precision; in VBA both mean double precision because double-precision numbers are no longer so slow that you don't use them as default in BASIC programs, but
13:01:21  the D is still supported for reading
13:02:38  [[User:Timwi]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124111&oldid=58207 * Timwi * (-5) /* Contact me */
13:19:02  [[]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=124112 * None1 * (+964) Created page with " (U+00BF) is a [[brainfuck]] equivalent by [[User:None1]].  Every program must start with  (U+00BF) and end with  (U+00EF), every command is represented by a hex digit.  {|class="wikitable" ! Position\BF !! + !! , !! - !! . !! < !! > !! [ !! ] |- |Higher digit || 1 || 3 || 5 || 7
13:19:20  [[]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124113&oldid=124112 * None1 * (+1) /* Hello, World! */
13:20:47  [[Language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124114&oldid=123981 * None1 * (+9) /* Non-alphabetic */
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13:29:04  [[User:None1]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124116&oldid=124115 * None1 * (+9) 
13:32:36  [[INJUQ]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124117&oldid=123942 * ChuckEsoteric08 * (-17) /* Specification */
13:48:35  [[User:None1/InDev]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124118&oldid=121850 * None1 * (+1429) /* Commands */
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14:20:37  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124120&oldid=124119 * Cleverxia * (+100) /* Base Specs */
14:21:59  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124121&oldid=124120 * Cleverxia * (+18) /* Commands */
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15:30:26  [[User:Shamrocky]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124123&oldid=124096 * Shamrocky * (+43) added pronouns
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15:40:54  [[User:Shamrocky]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124125&oldid=124123 * Shamrocky * (+62) 
15:41:21  [[User:Shamrocky/sandbox]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124126&oldid=124124 * Shamrocky * (-4) 
16:05:47  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124127&oldid=124122 * Infinitehexagon * (+271) 
16:10:43  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124128&oldid=124127 * Infinitehexagon * (+106) 
16:11:15  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124129&oldid=124128 * Infinitehexagon * (+76) 
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17:47:34  [[Summatciin]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124132&oldid=108853 * BoundedBeans * (+27) Disallowed non-literal namespaces in functions
18:05:34  [[User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124133&oldid=124046 * Infinitehexagon * (+62) 
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18:06:02  [[User talk:/w/wiki/index.php/Talk:index.php/Main page]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124134&oldid=124133 * Infinitehexagon * (+4) 
18:08:11  [[BFInfinity]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124135&oldid=124129 * Infinitehexagon * (-12) 
18:18:04  [[Mox]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124136&oldid=122759 * Infinitehexagon * (+239) 
18:18:23  [[Mox]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124137&oldid=124136 * Infinitehexagon * (+0) 
18:21:00  [[Mox]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124138&oldid=124137 * Infinitehexagon * (+18) 
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19:34:42  [[Quassaunt]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124139&oldid=119046 * BoundedBeans * (+282) Added %%Evaluatereplace command
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19:51:43  [[Quassaunt]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124140&oldid=124139 * BoundedBeans * (+584) Updated variables
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20:18:52  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124141&oldid=124131 * EvyLah * (+133) added replace char
20:20:08  [[Quassaunt]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124142&oldid=124140 * BoundedBeans * (+1693) Added @@##Errormessage, @@##Argv, and @@##Argvsupport semantics
20:21:00  [[Quassaunt]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124143&oldid=124142 * BoundedBeans * (+13) Added missing code tag
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20:35:45  [[Quassaunt]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124144&oldid=124143 * BoundedBeans * (+732) Added stack manipulation snippets and corrected order of some %%Makecontain arguments
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21:02:05  [[N10]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124145&oldid=124130 * AnotherUser05 * (-31) /* Fibonacci sequence */
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21:22:22  [[Quassaunt]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124146&oldid=124144 * BoundedBeans * (+7530) Revamped conditional section
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21:46:40  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124147&oldid=124141 * Qawtykit * (+69) 
21:49:32  [[Talk:Cheese]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124148&oldid=39841 * Angel * (+22) /* cheese */ new section
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22:06:59  [[Everyonelang]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124149&oldid=124147 * Qawtykit * (+409) If the repl command isn't actually self-modification, i'll be sure to delete this
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22:27:27  [[Talk:Deadfish~]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124150&oldid=122290 * BoundedBeans * (+189) 
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22:38:18  [[Talk:Deadfish~]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124151&oldid=124150 * BoundedBeans * (+1) Corrected error in INTERCAL implementation notes saying the limits for () and {} were separate
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23:23:23  [[Talk:Your stack may be eaten]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124152&oldid=100203 * BoundedBeans * (-1) Fixed stray backslash
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23:31:38  [[Diexponae]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=124153&oldid=102559 * BoundedBeans * (+1) Clarified positioning of input when it doesn't fit the tape