00:31:29 -!- ais523 has joined. 00:31:51 b_jonas: I find it exceedingly unlikely that a backdoor like that wouldn't be noticed by accident when someone sets the clock on a router forwards 00:32:54 the xz backdoor was much more subtle than that (in that it did nothing unless it was actively being exploited), and yet it ended up getting discovered by accident 00:35:44 the most plausible time i can think of is "some time around when PGP was publicly released" – has that since been broken? 01:07:46 -!- sprout_ has joined. 01:09:36 -!- sprout has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 01:19:38 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:20:53 -!- ais523 has joined. 01:36:47 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:38:01 -!- ais523 has joined. 01:50:27 [[XOR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=127538&oldid=127537 * Brain Boy 53 * (-262) 04:00:18 -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 04:14:28 -!- ais523 has joined. 04:38:07 [[XOR]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=127539&oldid=127538 * None1 * (-3) 04:38:17 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 04:38:34 [[XOR]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=127540&oldid=127539 * None1 * (-2) /* External Resources */ 05:05:10 [[Vfl]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=127541 * Viba1 * (+4830) Created page with "{{lowercase}} '''vfl''' (viba's FALSE-like) is a programming language inspired by [[FALSE]], created by [[User:Viba1]] in 2024. It is designed to retain the minimalist and easy-to-implement spirit of FALSE while being better suited to the whims of its creator. Key difference 05:06:02 [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=127542&oldid=127412 * Viba1 * (+10) add vfl 05:10:35 [[FALSE]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=127543&oldid=113862 * Viba1 * (+10) add vfl to "See also" 05:14:57 [[User:Viba1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=127544&oldid=96415 * Viba1 * (+179) 05:19:13 [[Vfl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=127545&oldid=127541 * Viba1 * (+23) forgot the Languages category 06:32:04 -!- tromp has joined. 06:44:29 ais523: just setting the clock forward wouldn't be enough, I did mention that the backdoor maintains its own time and initializes that from other backdoored routers with the same distributed consensus method as the signed alive message. you are probably right that the backdoor would be discovered somehow. 06:50:26 PGP was first released in 1991, that sounds too early for me to hide such a very complex backdoor into hardware. 06:53:55 at least in the kind of hardware involved here. 07:47:34 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:53:06 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 07:57:16 -!- tromp has joined. 08:11:23 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 08:33:13 b_jonas: Hmm have you ever played the shapez industries mod? It adds quite a few new things. One mundane thing is a "deep miner" that mines half a belt worth and actually turns mining itself into a bit of a puzzle: https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/shapez-industrial-mining.png 08:33:54 Ah, the downside being that they don't chain. 08:34:54 (Top is using standard miners, bottom is using the deep ones; I suspect that one could squeeze out one more belt from that area. Naybe 2, but it's hard to use up all of the area.) 08:43:33 The main novelties are that there are some new shapes (produced by "mixing" the four basic shapes), and a "smelter" that melds layers (the dividing lines between the quadrants disappear) and also removes all color. There are also some huge QoL features; there are belt cross-overs, and later in the game a zero-latency way to transport items over huge distances. Which will come in handy if I... 08:43:39 ...actually make a MAM. A MAM will not feature smelting, I think, since AFAICS there is no shape analysis for that on the wire layer. 08:43:45 Anyway, had fun, would recommend. 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