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00:31:42 <fizzie> b_jonas: You might possibly count the Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six series, where the first game (the 1998 Rainbow Six) was a 3D first-person "tactical shooter", but the 2000 "port" (if you can call it that) to the Game Boy Color is a top-down 2D game (but with the same storyline and such).
00:31:51 <fizzie> Or so I'm told by the Internet, I've played neither.
00:32:40 <fizzie> It may not really count as a "sequel" though (it shares the name, and is arguably a "version" rather than "sequel"), and it's apparently not all that good either.
00:38:47 <fizzie> Also this quick test of the Gemini "function calling" API (plugging it into the MediaWiki search and fetch APIs) was fun, it's really a shame there's no free tier in EU/UK that I could use to plug it into the bot: https://0x0.st/XKFO.txt
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00:41:48 <b_jonas> fizzie: thank you
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00:42:39 <b_jonas> fizzie: I don't insist on sequel, a similar game that is unambiguously later in our world is okay regardless of whether the story comes before or after or neither
00:49:20 <esolangs> [[-Output]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128037&oldid=128025 * EvyLah * (+47) haha file extension
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01:01:39 <b_jonas> ok wait I'm stupid, I should have known this. the answer is Kingdom Hearts: the first game Kingdom Hearts is 3D, but there's a 2D game later
01:17:57 <zzo38> Which Kingdom Hearts game do you mean (to be specific)?
01:19:58 <zzo38> Also there is consideration of 2D vs 3D graphics and 2D vs 3D movement. (And then, there will be the games that do not have any graphics at all)
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03:28:26 <esolangs> [[Malbolge Unshackled]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128041&oldid=126985 * Ais523 * (+75) /* External resources */ link Aaroneous Miller's implementation as a Vim macro
03:35:40 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128042&oldid=123633 * Ais523 * (-11) preparing to split the hello world page up further
03:36:50 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A-M)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128043&oldid=127025 * Ais523 * (-303) preparing to split the hello world page up further  also move the "other lists" from the first part to the index page
03:37:17 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128044&oldid=87576 * Ais523 * (+310) move content applying to the whole list from the first page to the index page
03:42:25 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A-M)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128045&oldid=128043 * Ais523 * (-50368) splitting H-M out from this page to a new page  the current page is almost at the size limit and that would prevent most users editing it unless a split is made
03:43:17 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (H-M)]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=128046 * Ais523 * (+50845) split from [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A-M)]]
03:46:14 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A-M)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128047&oldid=128045 * Ais523 * (-55453) splitting D-G out from this page to a new page
03:47:15 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (D-G)]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=128048 * Ais523 * (+55930) split from [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A-M)]]
03:49:42 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A-M)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128049&oldid=128047 * Ais523 * (-55185) splitting B-C out from this page to a new page
03:50:10 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (B-C)]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=128050 * Ais523 * (+55662) split from [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A-M)]]
03:50:53 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move  * Ais523 *  moved [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A-M)]] to [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A)]]: B-M were split into other pages
03:51:47 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (nonalphabetic and A-M)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128053&oldid=128052 * Ais523 * (-22) redirect to index page, so that people who have a link will be able to find the appropriate split page
03:52:34 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128054&oldid=128044 * Ais523 * (+160) link to the newly split pages
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03:56:23 <esolangs> [[Buffalo!]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128060&oldid=128059 * Ais523 * (+0) /* Hello World! */ re-repair link to split page
03:57:15 <esolangs> [[Triliteral]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128061&oldid=126943 * Ais523 * (-4) repair link to split page
04:00:25 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128062&oldid=128042 * Ais523 * (-90493) splitting T-Z out from this page to a new page  although this page isn't quite as large as the A-M page was, it still makes sense to split it to a) avoid future problems and b) have the split components be approximately the same size
04:00:48 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (T-Z)]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=128063 * Ais523 * (+90971) split from [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]]
04:02:24 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move  * Ais523 *  moved [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]] to [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-S)]]: T-Z was split into another page
04:02:43 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (N-Z)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128066&oldid=128065 * Ais523 * (-6) redirect to index page, so that people who have a link will be able to find the appropriate split page
04:03:10 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128067&oldid=128054 * Ais523 * (+54) update index of split pages
04:03:50 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (H-M)]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128068&oldid=128046 * Ais523 * (+0) update link to split page
04:07:04 <esolangs> [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee/Hello world]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=128069 * Ais523 * (+32940) moved from [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (T-Z)]]
04:07:27 <esolangs> [[Hello world program in esoteric languages (T-Z)]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128070&oldid=128063 * Ais523 * (-32823) /* Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee */ this example is dominating the entire page  move it to a page of its own
04:08:34 <esolangs> [[Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128071&oldid=122038 * Ais523 * (-36) /* Examples */ fix link to example that was moved to its own page
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04:12:17 <ais523> sorry for the mess, everyone
04:12:28 <ais523> the hello world page was getting very near the size limit again, so I split it up a bit more
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07:00:51 <b_jonas> zzo38: the first game is the original Kingdom Hearts from 2002 on the PS2, so that's what I have to take, and it's clear enough that it's a 3D game. but the 2D is less clear, so this is probably not a good example, none of the games is unambiguously 2D.
07:01:49 <b_jonas> yeah, I'll probably have to find a better one.
07:02:30 <b_jonas> ais523: *sigh* I remember when we split that, and I think I even suggested that we should split it to four instead of two. I guess I should have been more proactive about it.
07:32:33 <esolangs> [[Addpocalypse]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128078&oldid=128077 * Pro465 * (+357) add more info
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07:36:01 <esolangs> [[User:Pro465]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128080&oldid=114894 * Pro465 * (+21) /* Esolangs created */
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09:55:12 <esolangs> [[User:Yetyetty1234567890]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128085&oldid=124486 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+101) /* Esolangs */
09:56:25 <esolangs> [[NLOBCTADNIBACIMSA]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=128086 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+118) Created page with "wikitext #REDIRECT [[Nesting lines on big complicated trees and definitely not inspired by a conlang i made sometime]]"
09:57:06 <esolangs> [[NLOBCTADNIBACIMSA]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128087&oldid=128086 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (-9) Redirected page to [[Nesting lines on big complicated trees and definitely not inspired by a conlang i made sometime]]
10:22:35 <esolangs> [[Nesting lines on big complicated trees and definitely not inspired by a conlang i made sometime]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128088&oldid=128084 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+168) 
10:22:44 <esolangs> [[Nesting lines on big complicated trees and definitely not inspired by a conlang i made sometime]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128089&oldid=128088 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+1) /* Example */
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12:43:06 <esolangs> [[=?]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=128091 * Yayimhere * (+3518) Created page with "'''=?''' or '''is it''' is a esolang based on a tree of equal questions with nodes. ==overview:== basically you make a tree to print stuff ===nodes=== to create a node there is written:  name of node the origin node(s as there can be multiple of them) is written:  value of
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13:24:17 <esolangs> [[Language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128094&oldid=127994 * Yayimhere * (+9) /* Non-alphabetic */
13:26:05 <esolangs> [[=?]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128095&oldid=128092 * Yayimhere * (+12) /* examples */
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14:17:21 <esolangs> [[Wenyan]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128096&oldid=126297 * None1 * (+5086) /* Code Samples */
14:19:38 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck/Esointerpreters]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128097&oldid=126776 * None1 * (+5068) 
14:20:40 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck/Esointerpreters]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128098&oldid=128097 * None1 * (+19) /* Wenyan interpreters */
14:21:09 <esolangs> [[User:None1]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128099&oldid=127887 * None1 * (+12) /* My Implementations */
14:28:04 <esolangs> [[Wenyan]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128100&oldid=128096 * None1 * (+77) 
14:28:44 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck/Esointerpreters]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128101&oldid=128098 * None1 * (+89) /* Wenyan interpreters */
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15:21:02 <esolangs> [[CLFCE]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128105&oldid=128104 * Ractangle * (+156) 
15:22:31 <esolangs> [[User:Ractangle]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128106&oldid=127960 * Ractangle * (+6) 
15:25:38 <ais523> b_jonas: I split it into chunks that were about ¼ of the limit (the second half was a little confusing to split because it was dominated by one very long program, which I moved to a separate page)
15:25:55 <ais523> the original splitting into halves was an emergency thing I think, the page was actively unusable
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15:27:22 <ais523> there are a lot of esolangs starting with B for some reason, which probably isn't very surprising
15:27:44 <ais523> anyway, when I saw the page was over 199000 bytes I knew I had to split it fairly quickly
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15:37:22 <esolangs> [[Language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128107&oldid=128094 * Ractangle * (+5) /* C */
15:40:27 <esolangs> [[Talk:Addpocalypse]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=128108 * Ais523 * (+1735) computational class discussion
15:43:48 <esolangs> [[-Data Storage]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128109&oldid=125713 * EvyLah * (-174) not 2D because that is very difficult to make
15:45:32 <esolangs> [[User:EvyLah]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128110&oldid=125626 * EvyLah * (+116) 
15:59:56 <ais523> b_jonas: Yooka-Laylee (2017, 3D platformer) – Yooka-Laylee and the Impossible Lair (2019, 2D platformer) – interesting in that there weren't any platform restrictions, the developers just wanted to make a 2D game
16:00:24 <ais523> although, the latter game has a 3D overworld/level-selection screen which is sufficiently 3D to have movement glitches
16:00:33 <ais523> so I'm not sure if it counts as entirely 2D
16:10:58 <esolangs> [[Timing]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=128111 * EvyLah * (+2687) page creation
16:12:33 <esolangs> [[User:EvyLah]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128112&oldid=128110 * EvyLah * (+182) timing update
16:13:40 <esolangs> [[Language list]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128113&oldid=128107 * Ractangle * (+12) /* C */
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16:22:41 <esolangs> [[CLFCE]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128114&oldid=128105 * Ractangle * (+28) 
16:22:52 <esolangs> [[CLFCE]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128115&oldid=128114 * Ractangle * (+8) /* Hello World */
16:35:59 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload  * Ractangle *  uploaded "[[File:Representation of Block-CLFCE.png]]"
16:38:38 <esolangs> [[CLFCE]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128117&oldid=128115 * Ractangle * (+147) /* Block-CLFCE */
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17:17:07 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move  * Ractangle *  moved [[Mathcode]] to [[Guh]]
17:17:24 <esolangs> [[Guh]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128120&oldid=128118 * Ractangle * (-499) Replaced content with "{{Stub}} {{lowercase}}"
17:21:04 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload  * Ractangle *  uploaded "[[File:Screenshot 2024-05-16 201908.png]]"
17:21:45 <esolangs> [[Guh]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128122&oldid=128120 * Ractangle * (+125) 
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17:44:02 <esolangs> [[6 bits, 12 bytes]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128123&oldid=127853 * Stkptr * (-11) Categories
17:45:18 <esolangs> [[6 bits, 12 bytes]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128124&oldid=128123 * Stkptr * (+1) Fix FSM category
17:48:55 <esolangs> [[Trampolines]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128125&oldid=128022 * Aadenboy * (+51) wow stack 3 is useful now no way
17:59:01 <esolangs> [[Trampolines]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128126&oldid=128125 * Aadenboy * (+37) rewording
17:59:26 <esolangs> [[Trampolines]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128127&oldid=128126 * Aadenboy * (+1) rewording 2
18:24:18 <b_jonas> ais523: thank you. New Super Mario Bros U and Super Mario Bros Wonder have 3D overworld for selecting levels but I think they're still clearly 2D games even with that.
18:29:58 <esolangs> [[Xenon]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128128&oldid=128028 * RhubarbJayde * (+121) 
18:33:50 <esolangs> [[Trampolines]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128129&oldid=128127 * Aadenboy * (-1118) adding cat program, making titles redirect to their respective pages, remaking previous programs
18:34:45 <esolangs> [[Guh]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128130&oldid=128122 * Ractangle * (+139) 
18:35:03 <esolangs> [[Guh]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128131&oldid=128130 * Ractangle * (+3) /* Commands */
18:36:18 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128132&oldid=128093 * Aadenboy * (+108) /* Implementations */ added trampolines
18:38:13 <esolangs> [[User:Ractangle]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=128133&oldid=128106 * Ractangle * (+27) /* Language List */
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21:45:45 <b_jonas> if I want to refer to the phenomenon where new users find that arithmetic on (binary) floating point doesn't always give the exact result, should I call this "1.1 + 0.3 > 1.4" or "0.4 - 0.4 < 0.1"? I want to use a statement that works with either 32-bit or 64-bit floats, and these are the smallest such examples with multiples of one tenth.
21:53:46 <int-e> 0.4 - 0.4 < 0.1 is not very convincing. (I guess it's supposed to be 0.5 - 0.4)
21:54:14 <JAA> 0.1 + 0.2 != 0.3 would be the classical example, but I'm not sure it holds for single precision.
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21:54:35 <b_jonas> sorry, that should be "0.5 - 0.4 < 0.1"
21:56:37 <int-e> > 0.1 + 0.2 == (0.3 :: Float)
21:56:38 <lambdabot>  True
21:56:42 <int-e> > 0.1 + 0.2 == (0.3 :: Double)
21:56:44 <lambdabot>  False
21:56:46 <b_jonas> JAA: that one doesn't work for 32-bit floats
21:57:35 <JAA> Aw
21:58:26 <b_jonas> options include "0.6 + 0.3 != 0.9", "1.1 + 0.3 > 1.4", "0.5 - 0.4 < 0.1", "0.3 - 0.2 != 0.1"
22:02:24 <b_jonas> if you're fine with just 64-bit floats then indeed "0.2 + 0.1 > 0.3" works. while for 32-bit floats "0.4 + 0.3 > 0.7" works
22:14:28 <Noisytoot> > 0.1 + 0.2
22:14:30 <lambdabot>  0.30000000000000004
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