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01:46:16 <esolangs> [[Translated Befunge]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=132961 * None1 * (+916) Created page with "'''Translated Befunge''' is an esolang made by [[User:None1]]. It is [[Befunge]] but horribly translated by Baidu & Microsoft. (however you can add more or choose a another pair of translators for an even more horrible translation!) Note that Befunge programs ar
01:48:27 <esolangs> [[Joke language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=132962&oldid=132909 * None1 * (+70) /* Horribly translated variants */
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02:19:32 <esolangs> [[IndentationError: unexpected indent]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=132966 * None1 * (+1479) Created page with "IndentationError: unexpected indent is an esolang created by [[User:None1]] and inspired by [[foo : The term 'foo' is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet, function, script file, or operable program. Check the spelling of the name, or if a pa
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03:14:37 <esolangs> [[Sakana]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=132975&oldid=132828 * TheCanon2 * (+100) I, the creator of Sakana, formally create the new function .
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04:10:32 <zzo38> About adding a "joke proofs" category, I agree that the "Brainfuck is not turing complete" should be changed from "proofs" to "joke proofs" category; it might also be moved to user namespace (in which case it might not need any category at all, but the "proofs" category is wrong for this article regardless of the namespace)
04:30:53 <salpynx> Agree with the proofs category being wrong. But the content is not really recognisable as a joke. Delete or userspace it. It's _below_ "not even wrong"
04:32:39 <salpynx> The copyright 'joke proof' that inspired, I can at least see what the joke is supposed to be, but axiom 3 is trivially wrong or unclear in meaning, which spoils the humour
04:34:12 <salpynx> 3 "If you have some book and there is a reliable way that you can reconstruct a copyrighted book from it, then that book is copyrighted too."
04:40:54 <salpynx> .. not sure what that means exactly, but "My First ABC" (if it goes all the way to Z) allows you to reconstruct all other (English) books... Which is basically the joke, comparing to ℕ
04:42:31 <salpynx> Maybe the copyright article is funny, but the wording of 3 is a weak point
04:46:45 <esolangs> [[Rizzlang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=132979&oldid=132927 * ZachChecksOutEsolangs * (-78)
04:47:36 <esolangs> [[Talk:Brainfuck is not turing complete]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=132980&oldid=132972 * Unname4798 * (+58)
04:50:28 <salpynx> The recent non-language wiki-articles that translate source code badly through ai were bothering me. I want to argue they do not even define a language and totally miss landing a joke because they probably _could_ be made funny by describing it in terms of formal languages and algorithms, but don't.
04:50:49 <salpynx> In making the argument clearly I worry it'd complete the joke, then the argument against would be the one thing that justified them.
04:58:31 <salpynx> parody jokelang: Find a picture of a cat on the internet. Scribble all over it until it is not recognisable as a cat. wow it's a "programming language". Default is a cat program. If the original cat looked like it was waving, it's Hello World.
04:58:45 <salpynx> This is formal-language funny because the language includes all images of scribbled on cats, but excludes all scribbled on dogs.
04:58:59 <salpynx> It's algorithm funny because there's a spec for the behaviour of each 'word' in the language for common program forms.
04:59:21 <salpynx> (the silly named A+B problem is pic of 2 cats, which is basically cat, with unary output)
05:00:32 <salpynx> two cats just walked towards me as I typed that..
05:00:51 <salpynx> ... maybe this is not funny
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09:21:12 <wib_jonas> fizzie: https://logs.esolangs.org/ says "We have recently migrated from freenode to the Libera.Chat network". Does that still count as recent?
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09:26:22 <int-e> depends on the time scale... if you measure time by messages to this channel... I imagine the ration before/after move is 10:1
09:26:32 <int-e> it couldn't hurt to change that to "in 2021" though :)
09:27:00 <int-e> The note is dated (as in, annotated with a date) though.
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09:32:52 <wib_jonas> ah, so it's not recently compared to now, but recently compared to the date of that blog entry
09:42:11 <fizzie> I think I had the same thought that the message is probably not really necessary any more.
09:46:13 <wib_jonas> fizzie: no, I think there should be some message indefinitely to explain why there's logs from freenode and libera
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09:56:02 <fizzie> Fair, but it probably doesn't need to be a dated note with a red banner, I can just add a second paragraph under `about`. When I get around to it some day.
10:02:12 <fizzie> Regarding https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang_talk:Community_portal#(idea)Introducing_SyntaxHighlight? (just noticed the new comment in it) I think I thought about SyntaxHighlight before (it comes with the MediaWiki distribution nowadays), but after browsing about a little bit, it seemed like it wouldn't be all that useful, since it wouldn't support (most of) the actual esolangs, and there's no
10:02:14 <fizzie> viable mechanism to enable user-defined languages (it's a separate binary).
10:02:16 <fizzie> Still, it would be easy to add, and there's certainly _some_ amount of "normal code" on the wiki that could benefit from it. And Pygments does support Brainfuck and Befunge (not sure how well). It would just put the unsupported languages at a disadvantage.
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10:36:25 <wib_jonas> I don't generally use syntax highlighting even for normally programming, but I wonder whether the people who do like syntax highlighting would think it's still useful for highlighting brainfuck or befunge
10:38:04 <wib_jonas> funnily for *Intercal*, where people often hide "do" or "do not" in longer words, syntax highlighting showing that might actually be useful
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11:45:23 <wib_jonas> in general, syntax highlighting (if done well) can be more useful for obfuscated programming or esoteric languages, because when the code is misleading, the highlighter can notice that and warn you. I just don't think it's very useful for brainfuck or befunge in particular.
11:46:35 <wib_jonas> although finding where a v or ^ arrow points to in befunge could be useful, in the same way as finding the matching parenthesis can be useful in more traditional programming
11:47:17 <wib_jonas> as in when control flow goes through a big blank space (or a big area with a jumble of digits, say) in the befunge program and it's hard to follow what lines up with what
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16:21:00 <cpressey> What I thought I learned was that the "WaveFunction Collapse" algorithm relies on there being at least some 0% probabilities for adjacency in the input. It's "wrong" for a road to lead right into a wall, so there are 0 of these adjacencies in the input, so you see 0 of these adjacencies in the output.
16:21:29 <cpressey> If there are "no wrong adjancencies" I wonder if it even works.
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16:51:22 <esolangs> [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=132987&oldid=131620 * TheCanon2 * (+241) Added the Sakana and Ixqus variants, but I have no idea if they are notable enough to be on this page.
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22:40:53 <esolangs> [[Talk:Brainfuck is not turing complete]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=133006&oldid=133005 * Tommyaweosme * (+101)
22:45:35 <esolangs> [[Talk:Brainfuck is not turing complete]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=133007&oldid=133006 * Aadenboy * (-109) removing the "you can ... signatures" thing since I didn't realize that ~~~~ is replaced by the user's signature when saving
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23:23:58 <esolangs> [[Cantor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=133011&oldid=133010 * Joe * (+42)
23:30:16 <esolangs> [[MinusGreater]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=133012&oldid=132708 * Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff * (-1) /* number program: */
23:32:03 <esolangs> [[Cantor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=133013&oldid=133011 * Joe * (+152)
23:40:24 <esolangs> [[Fractaler]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=133014 * BestCoder * (+322) Created page with "fractaler is a thing that uses fractals to code == instructions == X -> A, B... [condition] - X splits into A and B... only if condition X -< A - X has a value A - X - count number of X > X (A,B,C...) places X, with maybe the values being ABC... == fixed cat ==
23:44:46 <esolangs> [[Fractaler]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=133015&oldid=133014 * BestCoder * (+139)