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03:39:00 <esolangs> [[Greguov-Korec universal Minsky machine]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134158&oldid=128033 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+26) Categories
03:41:45 <esolangs> [[NGGYU]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134159&oldid=127289 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+26) Category
03:47:00 <esolangs> [[The ()lang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134160&oldid=134148 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+38) Lowercase, category
03:52:35 <esolangs> [[When]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134161&oldid=30807 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+41) Distinguish confusion
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12:57:03 <esolangs> [[Do my esolangs even have meaning anymore or am i just part of an infinite factory making brainfuck clones until the end of eternity]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=134164 * Tommyaweosme * (+1419) Created page with "Do my esolangs even have meaning anymore or am i just part of an infinite factory making brainfuck clones until the end of eternity is an [[e
12:57:50 <esolangs> [[User:Tommyaweosme]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134165&oldid=133901 * Tommyaweosme * (+138)
13:01:39 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck implementations]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134166&oldid=131077 * Tommyaweosme * (+7) sorry, i had to correct this
13:04:30 <esolangs> [[Talk:Brainfuck speed test]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134167&oldid=115626 * Tommyaweosme * (+284)
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13:13:03 <esolangs> [[Minsky machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134168&oldid=134154 * B jonas * (+14) /* The section 14.2 Minsky machine */
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13:33:25 <b_jonas> fungot, what's your birthday?
13:33:25 <fungot> b_jonas: such is the beauty of languages for me). it's in r5rs
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15:02:14 <fizzie> fungot: How did you get your birthday recorded in the Scheme standard? And doesn't R5RS predate you?
15:02:15 <fungot> fizzie: you might have meant
15:03:56 <esolangs> [[Talk:10D Deadfish 7 with Time Travel and a Multiverse]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=134169 * HammyHammerhead * (+0) Created blank page
15:04:14 <int-e> fungot: so where is that time machine?
15:04:15 <fungot> int-e: xxx x x x x x x) is syntax groups, is sets, and using cont
15:04:49 <fizzie> As part of the neverending quest to improve the wiki infrastructure, planning to set up MariaDB replication so that the backups are no longer just weekly affairs but effectively real-time. Since these days there's so many edits a week.
15:04:54 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld elon enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube
15:05:00 <int-e> too manyt prefixes...
15:05:07 <fungot> Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ .
15:05:09 <esolangs> [[Talk:10D Deadfish 7 with Time Travel and a Multiverse]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134170&oldid=134169 * HammyHammerhead * (+107) /* Command discussion */ new section
15:05:17 <HackEso> Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \.
15:06:10 <int-e> fizzie: tbf I was pretty sure that my second guess was correct :)
15:09:38 <fizzie> Heh, this piece of "you have a delivery and need to pay some fees" spam has been translated to Finnish reasonably well, except the message is signed by "Kuninkaallinen Posti", or in other words "Royal Mail".
15:09:55 <fizzie> Of course it's always possible they've crowned a King or a Queen of Finland while we've been gone.
15:12:46 <int-e> Spam can be weird. I recently had one allegedly by a finnish(!) immigrant to the UK who wanted to hire a full-time tutor to ensure a proper education for his kids. I didn't quite understand what the scam would be. I imagine it would be an advance fee scam but how do you pull that off when you're presenting as somebody who has a 4 digit amount of pounds to spare per month?
15:13:43 <int-e> Oh I made a terrible blunder, it was Sweden. My apologies.
15:16:37 <HackEso> int-e är inte svensk. Hen kommer att spränga solen. Hen står för sig själv. Hen gillar inte färger, men han gillar dissonans. Er hat ein Hipster-Spiel gekauft.
15:17:30 <int-e> Oh right, that's one more reason to detonate the Sun.
15:17:54 <perlbot> b_jonas: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =.
15:18:11 <int-e> I don't know what the third sentence means.
15:18:12 <HackEso> Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \.
15:18:50 <HackEso> fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the king of #esoteric, see https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg . He understands how it actually works.
15:19:14 <HackEso> Tanebventions include necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, sand, dragons, persistence, the BBC, _46bit, progress, sanity, the hug, Italian, the grace period, the limerick, ruin, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: maths or tanebventions: foods. He never invents anything involving sex.
15:19:54 <int-e> Is that Go the game, or Go the language, or both?
15:19:58 <b_jonas> Cthulhuquagdonic Mothraquagdonic Narwhalicorn better be one of those lists
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16:06:33 <fizzie> I don't think Swedish "står för sig själv" means anything else than the literal English translation of "stands for itself", as in, "requires no supporting evidence / further explanation" or other things of that nature.
16:09:49 <int-e> fizzie: I miscounted, it's the fourth sentence that I don't understand.
16:10:09 <int-e> (something about dissonance)
16:10:55 <int-e> the trouble with small numbers is that there are so many of them
16:36:14 <fizzie> "He/she doesn't like colours, but he does like dissonance" is what I assumed it means. Not sure why it switches from gender-neutral to male halfway through.
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16:53:40 <esolangs> [[Divmeq]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134171&oldid=134162 * TheCanon2 * (+115) Wrote golfed versions of the addition and subtraction programs
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17:23:01 <esolangs> [[Talk:Sakana]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134172&oldid=133593 * TheCanon2 * (+53) Acknowledged the issue of finding Sakanas computational class
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19:49:47 <esolangs> [[Talk:Divmeq]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=134173 * TheCanon2 * (+215) Created the talk page
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20:12:25 <esolangs> [[Talk:Divmeq]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134174&oldid=134173 * TheCanon2 * (+656) /* Programming tutorial */ new section
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20:51:13 <int-e> b_jonas: I made an almost useless thing: https://int-e.eu/~bf3/shapez-oracle/
20:59:23 <esolangs> [[ScriptJava]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134175&oldid=88799 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+49) Categories
21:01:50 <esolangs> [[Talk:Divmeq]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134176&oldid=134174 * TheCanon2 * (+1130) Added sections for single-values and brainfuck-style loops
21:05:21 <b_jonas> int-e: this seems to indicate that RuRuRuRu:--------:CuCuCuCu is possible
21:06:03 <b_jonas> it would also be better if it provided proof for possible shapes by showing a method of construction somehow, like a tree with simple inputs in their leaves
21:06:53 <int-e> Huh! Okay, I'll have to debug that...
21:07:53 <esolangs> [[Talk:Divmeq]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134177&oldid=134176 * TheCanon2 * (+10) /* Programming tutorial */ fixed grammar
21:25:48 <int-e> Oh no, I aliased two memory regions while optimizing the code.
21:25:54 <salpynx> is there a standard (information theoretic) term for a unary "bit" equivalent? base3 = trit, base2 = bit, base1 = ???
21:27:47 <b_jonas> salpynx: uh, a tally mark?
21:30:02 <salpynx> that was the best I could think of too, tally / mark / symbol, but it sounds a bit informal. I thought I'd seen something like "uit" somewhere, but maybe that's too silly
21:36:40 <int-e> b_jonas: Okay, fixed that.
21:37:21 <int-e> b_jonas: I can't easily extract a recipe from this though :P
21:40:56 <int-e> If I did it would look very silly too.
21:41:50 <int-e> Anyway, the lack of recipes is why I wrote "almost useless".
21:54:54 <int-e> b_jonas: that was a good catch; only 443 templates were corrupted in the resulting table.
22:03:04 <int-e> oh god there's another bug
22:07:39 <b_jonas> wait, "optimizing the code"? isn't this just a single table less than 64 kilobits in size that you compute once and do a single lookup in, since you aren't getting a recipe, only a bool for whether the shape is possible?
22:08:24 <int-e> anyway the other bug was on the javascript side
22:08:30 <int-e> so easier to fix, done
22:09:04 <int-e> b_jonas: the table compressed into a 447 bytes .wasm file :P
22:10:20 <b_jonas> did any of the bugs get into your machine in the shapez save?
22:11:14 <int-e> It was all in the part where I started to manually optimize web assembly that I got from Rust.
22:11:45 <b_jonas> well that makes more sense
22:12:12 <esolangs> [[Talk:Divmeq]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134178&oldid=134177 * TheCanon2 * (+817) Created and documented an assembly notation for Divmeq
22:13:56 <esolangs> [[Talk:Divmeq]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134179&oldid=134178 * TheCanon2 * (+4) made a mistake
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22:22:09 <int-e> b_jonas: before that manual optimization it was 1060 bytes and allocated 1M of memory instead of just the table
22:23:06 <int-e> so... while it's not exactly sane to mess around at the web assembly level, it did pay off
22:30:27 <esolangs> [[Talk:Divmeq]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134181&oldid=134180 * TheCanon2 * (+229)
22:34:32 <int-e> b_jonas: It turns out you can get everything by stacking zigzag shapes like Cu------:--Cu----:Cu------:--Cu---- from below (or prefixes thereof, or rotations or mirror images, so 28 shapes in total), or rotations of Cu------:--Cu---- from above (no mirrored versions required, somehow). Which is a lot cheaper than stacking every pair of possible templates. But the only way to verify this is to...
22:34:38 <int-e> ...check that you still get all the templates.
22:36:45 <int-e> which condenses to this... uh... beautiful? code. https://paste.debian.net/1324668/
22:40:36 <b_jonas> int-e: only now https://int-e.eu/~bf3/shapez-oracle/ says that -------- is possible, which is wrong
22:42:15 <b_jonas> and also says that RuRu----:-------- is possible
22:43:01 <int-e> Yeah I know, the former is a quirk of the enumeration and the latter is an incomplete validity check for *encodings* of shapes
22:43:31 <int-e> I'll fix the former; not sure whether I want to fix the latter.
22:44:03 <int-e> (the way I wrote the code, RuRu----:-------- is an alternative encoding of RuRu----)
23:02:23 <int-e> 456 bytes now. Oh well.
23:11:30 <esolangs> [[Talk:Divmeq]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134182&oldid=134181 * TheCanon2 * (+396) added section for for loops
23:13:17 <esolangs> [[Talk:Divmeq]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=134183&oldid=134182 * TheCanon2 * (+56) fixed typo