< 1727827204 980343 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is Light and Darkness Dragon which negates monster effect activations automatically, which is great – unfortunately, it also negates spell card activations which would prevent the spells actually being played
< 1727827238 690105 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I'd either need to stop it negating them somehow, or to reduce its ATK to the point where it can't negate any more (but then it needs to be increased back up for the next turn)
< 1727827277 269385 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've mostly been working on the second approach, and have reached the edge of my YGO rules knowledge; I know the rules for the interaction of ATK-changing effects are screwy when some of them are permanent, but can't remember what they actually are
< 1727827311 761934 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :while we're there what did you say about Pokemon TCG the last time? is it definitely not Turing-complete, or is it just designed to make the sort of loops that help TCness much less likely than M:tG?
< 1727827348 639447 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I think we established that at least one voluntary infinite loop (i.e. driven by one of the players taking actions intentionally to sustain the loop) exists, which wasn't obvious
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< 1727827509 671362 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see. sounds like some rulesets for chess, where there's a limit on the number of turns without captures or pawn moves, but if you exceed that limit the game is a draw only if a player requests that draw.
< 1727827570 513521 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the official rules have two limits, nowadays
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< 1727827575 978182 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although that needs both players' cooperations for a loop, and even then almost never works because most chess games have real time limits
< 1727827590 213449 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :after 50 turns without captures or pawn moves, either player can request a draw, after 75 it is a draw automatically
< 1727827605 125196 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am not entirely sure why both halves of this are needed, presumably there's a good reason
< 1727827631 654421 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think some correspondence games only have a per-move time limit, not a full game limit
< 1727827704 565884 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: maybe the mandatory part is so that tournament games can't go on forever and delay the tournament? though the real time limits should ensure that.
< 1727827749 455198 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think it's to ensure that players don't run out of paper for logging the game
< 1727827763 85753 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the time limit is not a problem in many tournaments, it's quite common to have an increment per move
< 1727827788 230287 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe it's to make the job of umpires easier if a player requests a draw by repetition
< 1727827881 300653 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I presume the 75 move limit rarely makes a difference in real world games if the 50 move limit (by request of either player) is there
< 1727827881 702222 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, I just realised that it would be possible to negate the Light and Darkness Dragon to prevent it negating the spell, so all I need to do is find some repeatable way to negate it during a Main Phase but not the Standby Phase, that shouldn't be *too* hard as negating is a very common effect in YGO
< 1727827912 593371 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that means I have a few thousand cards to read through until I find the one that works :_D
< 1727827914 343076 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* :-D
< 1727827955 172503 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is amazing how tight this path is, so far I have found three points in the proof where only one card (out of the >10000 that exist) works
< 1727828058 272097 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh what the hell, Beargram works, I didn't even know it had that effect
< 1727828077 780334 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I find the card I need and it is famous for being a meme card :-D
< 1727828125 877535 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so this would be a program with a single big loop
< 1727828176 304227 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes
< 1727828176 332094 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so, the construction is that Recycle can be activated and Abyss Actor - Comic Relief must be activated during the Standby Phase, but (if I understand the rules properly) the player can choose the order
< 1727828206 502818 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see "I find the card I need and it is famous" and "Beargram" and I think of M:tG Berserk, is that normal?
< 1727828215 231580 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they have to Recycle the card out of the graveyard so that when Comic Relief activates, and gets the activation negated by Light and Darkness Dragon, Tantrum Toddler has nothing to attach (otherwise Tantrum Toddler gets its eighth material and activates a game-winning effect – although we'd need to prevent *it* being negated by Light and Darkness Dragon somehow)
< 1727828224 365555 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: similar names, very different effects though
< 1727828302 937499 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh no, this is easy, you have Tantrum Toddler get its activation negated by Light and Darkness Dragon, *but* you still pay the cost (to send 4 attached cards to the graveyard), and you just have the cost to detach the cards automatically win the game, so it doesn't matter that the activation doesn't go through
< 1727828367 611749 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then during the turn, you play the Spell Card you drew for turn, and Light and Darkness Dragon can't activate because Beargram prevents effects being activated in response to Spell Card activations
< 1727828454 421575 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :one other thing the player could do is not play the card – but the idea is to have six cards in hand that can't be played, so if you don't play it you have to discard something to hand size, and that triggers two copies of Forced Requisition to make the opponent discard two cards, and those can be cards that trigger in the GY to immediately win the game
< 1727828508 982181 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the other other thing you could do would be to set it face down as though it were a trap (Normal Spells don't do anything when set like traps, but it's a legal action so that you can bluff), but we can have a Denko Sekka on the field that specifically prevents setting spells and traps
< 1727828543 471006 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that's a full lockdown of the spell-using player's actions, other than attacking which there are numerous ways to prevent
< 1727828627 721502 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the opponent doesn't really have to do anything, they just exist to control certain cards, so all that's necessary is a way to prevent them losing to deckout, and there are a ton of those
< 1727828667 361496 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, assuming that lockdown loop works, we then need to find a viable programming language made out of Normal Spells
< 1727828695 357414 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the problem there is that YGO naturally has two counters and no control flow (all the commands run in sequence), which is not enough unless the commands are quite complex
< 1727828752 263476 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(the two players' life totals are the two most easily controllable counters)
< 1727828837 39166 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess the Light and Darkness Dragon is continuously shrinking every turn, that might be usable for computation somehow, although there's also a need to top the attack level back up so that it can keep negating
< 1727828914 240333 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooh! Light and Darkness Dragon is symmetrical, so I can have the spell-using player control it, that makes its ATK much easier to manipulate, although I'd still need to find something that boosts ATK permanently and not just until end of turn
< 1727828928 403245 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or alternatively, resets the ATK drop
< 1727829088 240468 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just to complete the lockdown loop for any YGO player who finds this in the logs: the combo to autowin with cards in graveyard is Transaction Rollback + Compulsory Evacuation Device targeting a monster that was summoned with Relay Soul; this wins regardless of cards in hand, cards in deck, or life totals
< 1727829191 340883 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, Sales Ban is very useful for preventing activation of any effects that would screw things up, it has a lingering effect that applies to one specific card name and lasts the whole Duel
< 1727829228 961264 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah wait, no, LaDD has to be controlled by the opponent because otherwise Beargram wouldn't work
< 1727829278 193299 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe there's an alternative card that works
< 1727829302 286713 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so now you have to find useful conditionals?
< 1727829504 393504 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :either that, or a third counter
< 1727829515 453241 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :even that needs useful conditionals, but they don't need to be quite so useful
< 1727829648 999803 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :are there cards that let you read life totals in a way that isn't monotonic such that the player loses more if they have lower life total? like Death's Shadow in M:tG
< 1727829658 582097 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I managed to figure out a way to read monster ATK (you use Mystik Wok to tribute a monster and gain life equal to its ATK, and it gets banished by Dimensional Fissure, then you get it back with Dimension Distortion), although Mystik Wok is a quick-play and I'm not sure whether that messes things up
< 1727829675 183260 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are a few lifepoint-halving effects
< 1727829690 372706 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and some which hurt you if you have higher lifepoints than the opponent, but heal you if you have lower
< 1727829710 813596 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also one that averages lifepoints with the opponent
< 1727829724 808785 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(unfortunately, there is rounding, which means you can't store information in the fractional part)
< 1727829759 768644 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Supremacy Berry says "If your Life Points were lower than your opponent's when this card was activated, gain 2000 Life Points. If your Life Points were higher than your opponent's, you take 1000 damage.", that's the sort of effect that seems useful for computation
< 1727829871 298855 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that sounds like you need a third counter though
< 1727829905 455702 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(life total reading effects aren't that common in M:tG either of course)
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< 1727830067 195389 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, a third counter really seems important for this sort of construction
< 1727830121 33547 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, in the Netrunner counter I used three but it might have been doable with two, but that's primarily because I had workable control flow with the rezzed/derezzed status of cards in Archives, making it possible to have four different multiply/divide loops (×2, ×3, ÷2, ÷3)
< 1727830181 524840 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so the counters were normally used as one counter to store data, and one counter to store the instruction pointer – but when doing the multiplication/division, in my construction it multiplies/divides onto the third counter *but* it could have instead used the instruction pointer counter as a temporary
< 1727830198 710853 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :M:tG has a lot of effects that let you use a creature's toughness or power or toughness minus marked damage as a counter, and I kind of expect that YGO would have something similar even if it's not as frequent as in M:tG
< 1727830231 373473 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the problem is, if you're using the instruction pointer as a temporary, you need something else to remember which multiplication/division you're doing
< 1727830237 763085 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I said third counter specifically because of the effect that's just based on the difference between your life total and the opponent's
< 1727830286 999871 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is hard to read power in Magic, and hard to read toughness without marking damage, but toughness minus damage marked has a very clear effect
< 1727830303 745362 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this doesn't work so well in YGO, if you reduce a monster's DEF to 0 it doesn't get destroyed or anything, it just stays there
< 1727830345 112664 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is one infamous card (infamous because it creates some really incomprehensible judge rulings), called Pole Position, that says that the monster with the highest ATK is unaffected by other cards
< 1727830375 853869 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :normally "unaffected" is restricted to activated effects in order to make it easy to understand, but Pole Position doesn't have that, it makes it unaffected by continuous/static effects too
< 1727830412 616312 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ouch
< 1727830423 854201 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so say if a monster has 1900 ATK, and another monster has 2000 ATK, and I equip the 1900 ATK monster with an equip spell that increases ATK by 500
< 1727830442 553478 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this creates a paradox, and the rules for this changed quite recently
< 1727830462 926008 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :unfortunately, they are subjective, and specify that the card most responsible for the issue is destroyed
< 1727830495 693053 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think there is an unofficial rule to hold Pole Position responsible whenever it is involved, but in general it is hard to know which card would be affected
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< 1727830566 233780 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(the MTGO equivalent for YGO seems to work by following the dependency cycle for 16 steps and then destroying whatever card is next in the list, which at least makes it possible to continue the game but often makes a fairly arbitrary-seeming choice; it also doesn't implement Pole Position)
< 1727830661 571875 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, I have resigned myself to the fact that Pole Position is very likely to be involved in the TCness construction, but I don't really want to use it, both because it would prevent testing the construction online, and because it is so hard to understand all the consequences of that card being in play
< 1727830733 340642 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's a pity
< 1727830769 59054 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :some amount of rules complications is to be expected for such a construction, but ideally it shouldn't descend to the "infamous" level
< 1727830775 751119 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's probably OK if monsters have their ATK changed only via activated effects
< 1727831226 832104 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh no, I just realised that the card that gains life equal to a monster's ATK can choose its DEF instead, so the two would need to always be equal or the card is unusable
< 1727831398 531497 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there seems to be exactly one permanent ATK-doubler (Cubic Wave), which unfortunately is quite specific but might still be usable
< 1727831727 192322 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, permanently increasing the LaDD's ATK to counteract the permanent decreases seems hard; Kashtira Overlap might be usable?
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< 1727832608 151010 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wow, Gingerbread House is perfect for keeping the LaDD active
< 1727832824 304334 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, no it isn't, it's optional
< 1727832829 960561 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I hate how many effects in YGO are optional
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> 1727860921 345389 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07IP14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141953 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+2892) 10IPlang
> 1727861097 14330 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Target14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141954&oldid=141936 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+266) 10
> 1727861598 125397 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141955&oldid=141637 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+156) 10
> 1727861962 358772 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07F'juhv iK'tlhUng14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141956&oldid=127203 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1) 10
> 1727861997 963330 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:MihaiEso/Targets14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141957 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+1098) 10Created page with "Struck is completed. === Esolangs === * Make my first esolang * Make at least 10 esolangs * Make at least 25 esolangs * Make at least 50 esolangs * Make at least 100 esolangs * Make at least 500 esolangs
> 1727862417 393283 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:XKCD Random Number14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141958&oldid=141704 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+41) 10
> 1727862441 303329 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:XKCD Random Number14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141959&oldid=141958 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (-7) 10
> 1727862617 598827 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Befunge/Constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141960&oldid=141828 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+53) 10
> 1727862783 772483 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:MASM/Print A14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141961 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+282) 10I found a "Hello, world!" program!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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> 1727863082 128099 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Befunge/Constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141964&oldid=141963 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+147) 10
> 1727863100 580423 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Befunge/Constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141965&oldid=141964 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+3) 10
> 1727863266 608728 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Befunge/Constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141966&oldid=141965 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+20) 10/* 80-89 */
> 1727863327 940914 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TW'sLE!!!14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=141967 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+1475) 10tw'sle!!!
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> 1727864603 916440 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:PrySigneToFry/Sandbox/My Rate to the user that I know14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141971&oldid=141722 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1) 10
> 1727864978 680997 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Iddi0114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141972&oldid=140681 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+792) 10Added information other than redirection
> 1727865463 305495 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadfish/Implementations (nonalphabetic and A-L)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141973&oldid=141929 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+2965) 10/* */
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"
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> 1727868037 824588 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141987&oldid=141986 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (-9) 10Whoops...
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> 1727868465 188534 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry/Sandbox/My Rate to the user that I know14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141990&oldid=141989 5* 03None1 5* (+0) 10
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> 1727871208 214883 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Abuse filter 15 makes no sense14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=141997&oldid=141996 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+234) 10
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> 1727878068 400399 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=142005&oldid=141134 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+149) 10/* */
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> 1727882754 278829 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=142013&oldid=142006 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+628) 10
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< 1727903166 911083 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had tried to compile a C program that I had written, that uses OpenSSL, on another computer, and says that OPENSSL_config is not available (resulting in a compiler warning about implicit declaration), and a linker error due to ERR_print_errors_fp not being available (although that did not result in a compiler warning). Do you know what is wrong with it?
< 1727903207 344653 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(The program compiled when the calls to those functions were commented out, although the result is then that error messages are not handled)
< 1727904081 378367 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: is this about OpenSSL having two incompatible major versions and you're trying to link to the other one?
< 1727904138 733473 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's infamous because they're incompatible in such a stupid way that it can lead to correct programs in the earlier major version to become insecure when you try to adapt them to the newer major version, or so I've heard
< 1727904295 683504 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I didn't know that, and I also don't know how to fix it. Can #if and/or #ifdef commands be used (and if so, how is it needed to be done)?
> 1727904747 225724 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Lol waht i cant edit talk pages14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=142056 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+734) 10Created page with "{{lowercase}}lol waht i cant edit talk pages is an esolang made by [[user:tommyaweosme]] because of the admins of this very wiki. == commands == user:? - defines new variable called ? edit user talk:? to remove n messages - subtracts n from
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< 1727905347 972100 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I don't know about the specifics of OpenSSL, I only heard these as rumors.
< 1727905511 511220 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :One of those functions is deprecated. The other is behind a conditional flag that /might/ be disabled, https://github.com/openssl/openssl/blob/master/crypto/err/err_prn.c#L176-L186
< 1727905527 405117 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or it may be something entirely different, of course.
< 1727905544 425432 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's a software problem after all.
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> 1727906734 989626 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Abuse filter 15 makes no sense10]]": offtopic
< 1727907216 269249 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I admire your willingness to come up with narrow blocks like that
< 1727907242 938486 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had partially written a ASN.1 BER parser; so far it handles constructed types and can convert object identifiers into decimal format.
< 1727907327 711061 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: thanks – in a way I can get away with it because the wiki is still fairly small, so blocks that need a lot of manual monitoring are still possible
< 1727907341 522842 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, the wiki is now long past the point where it's reasonable to read every edit
< 1727907354 447313 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: should the accompanying talk page Talk:Abuse_filter_15_makes_no_sense be deleted too?
< 1727907360 523557 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no
< 1727907364 50558 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is a deletion discussion
< 1727907370 842578 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool
< 1727907390 930618 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in the very early days of Wikipedia, back when it was small, this is apparently how deletions were handled, and it's how Esolang has been doing it for years
< 1727907408 101864 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is still an exception in Wikipedia's rules to not delete talk pages if they contain discussion of why the corresponding non-talk page was deleted
< 1727907418 521145 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :even though it hasn't been relevant for decades now
< 1727907420 687549 :shikhin!~shikhin@ahti.space CHGHOST ~shikhin :offtopia/offtopian
< 1727907597 328045 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"long past the point where it's reasonable to read every edit" => I was considering to suggest to take a shortcut and time out everyone who edited https://esolangs.org/wiki/Bbtos for a few months, but you probably wouldn't do that
< 1727907623 814680 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think peopel are editing
< 1727907637 136316 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* people are editing that for the same reason they add Deadfish implementations
< 1727907679 221137 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the only pages I've ever had to split up due to getting large enough to stress technical limitations are a) the hello world page (makes sense), b) the deadfish implementations, and c) my talk page
< 1727907712 544515 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the last of those really shouldn't have happened, although in retrospect it may have been inevitable (something similar happened to Jimbo Wales' talk page on Wikipedia)
< 1727907784 41806 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :your user talk page is big because there isn't an obvious "Administrator's noticeboard" page so we're using it in its stead
> 1727907808 440229 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:9014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=142057&oldid=142024 5* 03Ais523 5* (+326) 10it's wrong
< 1727907852 690721 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: right – and that's probably because we've never needed an admin noticeboard
< 1727907882 510879 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and with only one frequently active admin, I guess it makes sense to use the page that pings them?)
< 1727908287 815190 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you'd think part of the reason why your user talk page is so big is that you create interesting esolangs and the main reference to them is on the wiki and users message you because of that, but it turns out that's very little of the user talk page
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< 1727908737 298596 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :In ASN.1 the low bit of a byte is called "bit1", but if ASN.2 is made up then "bit0" would be better for the low bit, I think.
> 1727909393 478830 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Translated Poetic Mihai14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=142058 5* 03MihaiEso 5* (+3174) 10Created page with "'''Translated Poetic Mihai''' is a esolang made by Mihai Popa. It's [[Poetic (Mihai Popa)|Poetic]] but horribly translated with crappy languages. 1. Take this example Add experience and goodness. You love this content The color is very good, For
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< 1727911439 582236 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what's the correct way to delete one letter in vi? I tried dl but it didn't work
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< 1727911476 964276 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :You can push x or delete to delete a single character
< 1727911511 575740 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :dl *does* work in vim, which I'm more used to
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