00:02:39 <Lymia> Basic idea is to break down programs into cascades of behaviors. Each behavior is just BFJoust code with some extra op codes. "End behavior" and "Jump to behavior". Then a few manually written ones for basic strategies like timer clears.
00:03:13 <Lymia> It reflects well how it seems current programs are written in practice.
00:04:01 <Lymia> And I'm hoping a few extra features can give an evolver the kick it needs to make effective programs.
00:05:13 <Lymia> (behaviors are ordered and cannot call previous behaviors in the order. That way the output length off potentially exponential, but still bounded. Can just reject code that is too long early and give excess length a big fitness penalty)
00:06:24 <Lymia> (can also name them with vectors, so that there's a good way to have a "named" jump that can be gradually evolved and just hit the nearest behavior that matches)
00:06:51 <Lymia> No idea if it'll work, but, will just have to see.
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01:34:48 <int-e> shachaf: well this is curious: https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/bee-bug.png
01:36:28 <shachaf> I mean, the file name is a hint.
01:37:54 <int-e> I saw a comment that the final scene has an easter egg. This happens if you undo to the start of the level afterwards.
01:39:25 <shachaf> Is that the one where you do home right as you activate the ending?
01:39:32 <int-e> Also there are at least two ways to flip that switch which is funny.
01:39:40 <int-e> shachaf: yeah that's the one
01:39:55 <shachaf> Hmm, the one I used was size+flower
01:40:03 <int-e> It's the only room with an off-center home and it isn't reset properly on reset.
01:40:20 <int-e> which makes no sense but it worked.
01:43:59 <int-e> Anyway, I still have three trophies left. No progress there...
01:53:03 <int-e> (I guess it's two more since I had last updated https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/bee-magic.png )
03:48:07 <shachaf> int-e: OK, I brought myself to the same state as you, on this computer.
03:48:26 <shachaf> I don't think I've solved any of these three?
04:15:57 <shachaf> int-e: Ugh, OK, I think I've figured out how to do fire/flip/size, but I may have locked myself out of it this run.
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07:33:30 <b_jonas> "range of possible tape lengths needs to be larger" => if you want that in that future bfjoust successor, you should also consider making the modulus for tape cell values smaller than 256. it's currently 256 mostly because of the origins from Brainfuck.
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07:39:34 <b_jonas> “‘MIT license’ is ambiguous” => the lazy short disambiguation is “X11 license”
07:39:47 <b_jonas> there's only one of those, isn't there?
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15:15:28 <esolangs> [[User:Alidonis12/sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144027&oldid=125162 * Alidonis12 * (+78) Created link to new stub for garbage.net, a new esolangs I will actually finish this time
15:16:05 <esolangs> [[User:Alidonis12/sandbox/garbagenet]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=144028 * Alidonis12 * (+96) Created page with "It's currently in a document on my desktop, I'll make a wiki article when I finish it this time."
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18:58:21 <fizzie> Bah, the repo-browser has stopped functioning again.
19:00:33 <fizzie> "connect() to unix:/run/uwsgi/hackeso-hgweb.socket failed (111: Connection refused)". But why.
19:01:07 <fizzie> "Listen: /run/uwsgi/hackeso-hgweb.socket (Stream)", "Active: active (listening)" says systemctl.
19:01:27 <fizzie> This would be easier if it was just on all the time, instead of having to be fancy systemd socket activation thing.
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23:18:03 <salpynx> fizzie: is bfjoust/report.txt version controlled? I was hoping to plot out the ranking changes over time, and get a feel for how score has changed over time. I thought i could get this from hill commits, but it only has the warriors
23:26:19 <fizzie> Unfortunately it's not. I guess technically you could recreate it from the commits, but it would involve re-running the games.
23:47:05 <salpynx> I'll look into getting chainlance running locally and see. Not as simple as running back through the the commit history and just reading the scores, but maybe a more interesting project
23:50:51 <fizzie> The tool I use for the hill is `gearlanced`, which is specifically intended for hill-style use, in that it keeps a cached copy of N pre-parsed "left" programs in memory, and can then quickly test a single new "right" program against all of them.
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23:57:29 <Lymia> Do you have benchmarks or similar on how many programs you need before torquelance starts beating out gearlance
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