< 1730767076 449470 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1730767121 332926 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1730767220 225811 :Lymia!lymia@ayame.servers.aura.moe PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: btw, something I did think of on a BF Joust rework < 1730767248 380725 :Lymia!lymia@ayame.servers.aura.moe PRIVMSG #esolangs :It may be worth it to have certain numbers be "cheaper" to represent in some way than others. e.g. (+)*16 being "shroter" than (+)*15 or (+)*17 < 1730767252 93009 :Lymia!lymia@ayame.servers.aura.moe PRIVMSG #esolangs :shorter* < 1730767270 448219 :Lymia!lymia@ayame.servers.aura.moe PRIVMSG #esolangs :Would help reduce the amount of finetuning, I think, to have a few specific breakpoints for "large/small/etc" on decoy/offset/etc sizes. < 1730767455 621111 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Lymia: hm, interesting < 1730767481 860605 :Lymia!lymia@ayame.servers.aura.moe PRIVMSG #esolangs :Decoys especially, combined with offset clears existing. < 1730767494 393610 :Lymia!lymia@ayame.servers.aura.moe PRIVMSG #esolangs :+1 on an offset or decoy size can make or break a hill. < 1730767501 881112 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was planning to just use decimal but I am not convinced I disagree – OTOH it might be hard to do in an intuitive way < 1730767561 407038 :Lymia!lymia@ayame.servers.aura.moe PRIVMSG #esolangs :The existence of pairs of bots where.... < 1730767573 801677 :Lymia!lymia@ayame.servers.aura.moe PRIVMSG #esolangs :+1/-1 on offset or decoy sizes can just flip that one matchup and lose very little elsewhere is an ow. < 1730769231 13384 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement < 1730769403 623680 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1730769428 83251 :m5zs7k!aquares@web10.mydevil.net JOIN #esolangs m5zs7k :m5zs7k < 1730770016 451367 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1730770127 581365 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse < 1730771488 418947 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@32.64.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale > 1730772383 970190 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Son of a BitCh14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144927&oldid=144903 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+222) 10Categories > 1730772620 273074 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BitChanger14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144928&oldid=101522 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+67) 10/* See also */ Derivatives < 1730772689 66601 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@32.64.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1730774722 804565 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1730774886 957479 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1730776158 630785 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron < 1730784324 272827 :myname!~myname@v2202404221793264578.bestsrv.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1730784325 534626 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :*.net *.split < 1730784325 717845 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1730784326 645361 :jix!~jix@user/jix QUIT :*.net *.split < 1730784327 4786 :wryl!sid553797@user/meow/Wryl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1730784327 160802 :drakonis!drakonis@user/meow/drakonis QUIT :*.net *.split < 1730784327 934663 :Ae!Ae@linux.touz.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1730784328 639138 :ManDeJan!3da94070ba@user/mandejan QUIT :*.net *.split < 1730784329 68735 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator QUIT :*.net *.split < 1730784329 628359 :dnm!sid401311@id-401311.lymington.irccloud.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1730784329 934933 :Argorok!sid195487@id-195487.hampstead.irccloud.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1730784330 188341 :krychu_!~krychu@static.19.136.108.65.clients.your-server.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1730784352 794517 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-45759c8b.dyn.optonline.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1730784428 744508 :Ae!Ae@linux.touz.org JOIN #esolangs * :Ae < 1730784428 782297 :ManDeJan!3da94070ba@user/mandejan JOIN #esolangs ManDeJan :ManDeJan < 1730784428 782397 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator JOIN #esolangs Bowserinator :No VPS :( < 1730784428 782412 :dnm!sid401311@id-401311.lymington.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs dnm :dnm < 1730784428 782432 :Argorok!sid195487@id-195487.hampstead.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs Argorok :Argorok < 1730784428 782443 :krychu_!~krychu@static.19.136.108.65.clients.your-server.de JOIN #esolangs * :krychu < 1730784456 967480 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Ping timeout: 243 seconds < 1730784467 737289 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1730784467 775501 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :b_jonas < 1730784467 775555 :jix!~jix@user/jix JOIN #esolangs jix :Jannis Harder < 1730784467 775587 :wryl!sid553797@user/meow/Wryl JOIN #esolangs Wryl :Wryl < 1730784467 775606 :drakonis!drakonis@user/meow/drakonis JOIN #esolangs drakonis :drakonis < 1730784504 843235 :myname!~myname@v2202404221793264578.bestsrv.de JOIN #esolangs myname :myname < 1730786256 477017 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had also made up a Magic: the Gathering card before that mentioned prime numbers, before the other one mentioned that was made officially. I wrote "Players and permanents with a prime number of counters have shroud." < 1730788203 367231 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-45759c8b.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1730792037 909601 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1730792314 331314 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Text14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144929&oldid=135543 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* Quine */ > 1730792471 371607 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:EvyLah/public stack14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144930&oldid=144914 5* 03Gggfr 5* (+28) 10 > 1730792588 658117 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07List of quines14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144931&oldid=144919 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+76) 10/* 05AB1E */ < 1730792779 939494 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1730792828 984341 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord > 1730793404 665501 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07List of quines14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144932&oldid=144931 5* 03ZCX islptng 5* (-13) 10Moved !Chinese because it is built-in < 1730793428 350591 :Guest60!~Guest60@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Guest60 < 1730793433 362296 :Guest60!~Guest60@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :helllllllo < 1730794020 205779 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1730795564 645300 :Guest60!~Guest60@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1730795606 351566 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW < 1730796613 694452 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :“certain numbers be ‘cheaper’ to represent (+)*16 being ‘shroter’ than (+)*15 or (+)*17” => oh no! it's not US election day, it's still Halloween, and the deadfish are executing their iiss attack! < 1730796645 99651 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :waht > 1730798366 396425 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5* 10moved [[02Inspect.getmembers(object)10]] to [["Python"]] > 1730798366 413992 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5* 10moved [[02Talk:Inspect.getmembers(object)10]] to [[Talk:"Python"]] > 1730798382 708718 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5* 10moved [[02"Python"10]] to [["python"]] > 1730798382 728085 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5* 10moved [[02Talk:"Python"10]] to [[Talk:"python"]] > 1730798467 451385 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07"python"14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144941&oldid=144937 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-8) 10 > 1730798967 70451 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144942&oldid=144858 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+14) 10/* Stuff to continue */ < 1730800998 204875 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1730801016 543580 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN #esolangs moony :Kaylie! (she/her) < 1730803109 376878 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds > 1730803667 26825 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07"python"14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144943&oldid=144941 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-14) 10 > 1730803732 563369 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07"python"14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144944&oldid=144943 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+32) 10 > 1730803862 391610 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07"python"14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144945&oldid=144944 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+31) 10 < 1730804162 428675 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1730804176 419508 :supercode!~supercode@user/supercode JOIN #esolangs supercode :[https://web.libera.chat] supercode < 1730804574 883971 :Artea!~Lufia@artea.pt JOIN #esolangs Artea :Artea ElFo < 1730805270 496324 :supercode!~supercode@user/supercode QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1730807272 388665 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Superstitionfreeblog14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144946&oldid=144723 5* 03Superstitionfreeblog 5* (+1093) 10 < 1730807742 354691 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW < 1730810292 23206 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1730812181 278733 :Everything!~Everythin@178-133-144-30.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN #esolangs Everything :Everything > 1730813295 23351 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!@$%^&*()+=14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=144947 5* 03Xyzzy 5* (+59) 10Created page with "{{Stub}}{{WIP}} This is a language based on [[!@$%^&*()+]]." > 1730813644 674669 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:!@$%^&*()+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144948&oldid=140824 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+157) 10/* the hell */ < 1730813785 393255 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1730814463 583835 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1730814576 584098 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Look!14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=144949 5* 03None1 5* (+447) 10Created page with "==Look! online interpreter== Since I've deleted the REPL hosting the Look! online interpreter, I plan to create another using Vercel. It will probably be done in a month, but it won't be reachable in inland China. --~~~~" < 1730814746 351323 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW < 1730814937 836651 :Everything!~Everythin@178-133-144-30.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1730815066 20452 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1730815145 350286 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1730815573 895865 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1730818644 350076 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs b_jonas :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1730820455 248842 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@32.64.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale < 1730821314 345280 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1730821884 971515 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1730822470 76419 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? password < 1730822473 485322 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The password of the month is release incident pilot. < 1730822499 63823 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :> map sort ["release incident pilot","presidential election"] < 1730822500 690873 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : [" acdeeeeiiillnnoprstt"," acdeeeeiiillnnoprstt"] < 1730822611 16119 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(https://wordsmith.org/anagram/ is still pretty cool) < 1730823984 387944 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1730824391 746803 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1730825911 405950 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: you know the command you gave doesn't actually compare them, and they're very hard to compare by eye, right? < 1730825930 751311 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: well, they're not equal < 1730826016 294041 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, yes, I know < 1730826197 208901 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: but also https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/ooh1Aif8eija.png :P < 1730826243 291370 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hehe < 1730827538 144525 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1730828158 322559 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1730829762 941564 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1730831333 100873 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!@$%^&*()+=14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144950&oldid=144947 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+42) 10Categories < 1730833709 358802 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@32.64.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1730838230 388854 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1730839511 516455 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: huh, using Deadfish notation to represent numbers would indeed be a reasonable way to make some numbers cheaper than others < 1730839612 790594 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Are people electing a new president of #esolangs? < 1730839647 591458 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i ii iii iis iisi iisii iisiii iiisd iiis iiisi iiisii iiisiii iissddd iissdd iissd iiss < 1730839684 34726 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(have we reminded all the Americans here (who are eligible to vote and haven't yet done so in this election) to go and vote yet?) < 1730839773 131178 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :alternatively, binary floating-point could work: 1p0 1p1 1.1p1 1p2 1.01p2 1.1p2 1.11p2 1p3 etc. < 1730839826 924873 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Any recommendations on what to vote for? < 1730839861 370476 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I already dropped off my ballot yesterday.) < 1730839948 680922 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: at least in the UK, Trump is incredibly unpopular, so I imagine most Brits would vote against him by voting for Harris < 1730839981 549271 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we had a Trump supporter as Prime Minister recently, she got thrown out by her own party after only a few weeks < 1730840043 496624 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but Trump was also very unpopular even before then < 1730840098 467434 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, my presidential vote is completely meaningless in California. < 1730840122 975306 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :indeed – it would be a huge upset if Harris fell below 50% there, and every vote above 50% doesn't matter < 1730840139 215027 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :some of the House seats in California might potentially matter < 1730840160 736416 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I don't have the list of individual seats in California memorised < 1730840245 287640 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(looking it up on the Internet says that CA-45 and CA-22 are the two closest House districts in the country) > 1730840251 491329 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Eodermdrome14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=144951&oldid=142355 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+6) 10/* Example programs */ updated link < 1730840321 732671 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :My district, CA-12, is presumably on the other end of whatever list that is. < 1730840350 847382 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :"With a Cook Partisan Voter Index rating of D+40, the 12th district is the most Democratic district in both California and the United States, giving nearly 90% of its vote to Democrats in both the 2016 and 2020 presidential elections.[1][2]" < 1730840357 328774 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: the problem is that it also lets jousters very quickly zero a flag that starts at 128 < 1730840423 954149 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: yes, a) CA-12 isn't remotely close, and b) both candidates say that they'll support the Democrats if they win, so it would require one of them to be lying about that to affect who controls the House post-election < 1730840435 29325 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I don't see that as a problem, turtles being fast is good for the game < 1730840457 981239 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if they weren't fast there'd be no point in using the strategy, it has a lot of disadvantages < 1730840577 10961 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: One of the candidates is going for a direct democracy thing: < 1730840582 792051 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :«"We are putting the power back into the people by allowing the voters of the East Bay to vote on every bill that crosses my desk in congress. Meaning that as long as 51% of the district votes for a bill that passes my desk, I will support that even if I don't personally agreed with the particular decision," said Dr. Tran.» < 1730840636 1036 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Of course de facto that's still the same situation. < 1730840642 245713 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, just with extra steps < 1730840656 711072 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also she's presumably not going to win. < 1730840707 985601 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe I should run for congress. < 1730840807 646621 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :unfortunately I wouldn't be able to vote for you, due to being British < 1730840872 243147 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, I could move to Britland and stand for Parliament. < 1730841330 927820 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: you said earlier that you don't want to decrease the cell modulus, currently 256, by much, because it would be too quick to clear flags. with a deadfish square operation, you can achieve a clear in 9 turns if undisturbed. isn't that too fast? < 1730841420 362421 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: oh, these operations don't affect the cells on the tape < 1730841423 433354 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with sss.-sss. < 1730841424 590690 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they're just to control the internal counter < 1730841437 335711 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, and how can you use the internal counter? < 1730841443 511682 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for control flow < 1730841454 142918 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just control flow? < 1730841456 671562 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes < 1730841490 431544 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's the only way to do, e.g., "subtract 1 from this cell 128 times" without taking up a huge amount of code space < 1730841524 153720 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :by using the counter to count the iterations of a 128-iteration loop < 1730841529 146248 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in that case I hope you get more than one counter < 1730841557 175461 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like either three counters, or two counters and a way to quickly compare distance from your own flag to a constant < 1730841596 561525 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's one counter + compare distance to marker + compare distance to own flag; the marker is a pointer to a tape cell that you can move to you current cell in zero time < 1730841601 51249 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* your < 1730841651 460934 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this has enough power to implement most of the interesting programs on the champions page, but low enough power that programs still behave somewhat predictably < 1730841653 683827 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see < 1730841659 270274 :Everything!~Everythin@178-133-16-55.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN #esolangs Everything :Everything < 1730841685 793642 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :do you get at least an extra boolean or two that you can clear, set, and test? < 1730841699 694585 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to ease on code space < 1730841710 539852 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no but you have an instruction pointer – boolean flags is an interesting idea though < 1730841737 685151 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I figured that repeating programs a couple of times in code space would be OK for programs that needed to do that < 1730841746 354478 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :adding booleans would allow the code space to be made smaller, though < 1730841830 753782 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :booleans or counters with a small limit, for things that you want to repeat a few times < 1730841869 890672 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like trying to make sure you see a cell cleared multiple times before you move past it < 1730841941 497329 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, antishudder loops nearly always need a different clear algorithm anyway < 1730841995 763436 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the shudders are designed to beat normal clear algorithms, so if you zero a cell and see it nonzero on the next cycle, usually you switch to a less normal algorithm for zeroing it the second time < 1730842013 114485 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or perhaps a single-level subroutine call that saves your position but not the orientation (velocity) so you can use the orientation for four different returns < 1730842134 905641 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :assuming this still uses a funge/piet code space < 1730844038 68773 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1730845679 788987 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: I went with an anagram for a reason :P < 1730845778 814413 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think you have the word order wrong, "pilot release incident" actually makes sense as a noun phrase < 1730845797 273828 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and of course, the word order doesn't matter for an anagram) < 1730845837 112011 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wanted a software context, not an avian one. < 1730845854 369963 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you are right that that makes more sense < 1730845901 387178 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm sure there are better anagrams anyway. 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