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> 1731507035 651963 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07P14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=145378 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1192) 10Created page with "'''P''' or '''PLOOPY''' is an esolang created by [[User:Yayimhere]] based on a joke on Failboats streams == semantics and syntax == === syntax === the "fonts" are defined as:  [what A will be replaced[space]with what b will be replaced with[space]ect.] (where [space]<
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< 1731516782 492158 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :eh wutever anybody wanna chat about FWOTD
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< 1731522846 273299 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: What is the purpose of the language DIVSPL?
> 1731522865 827798 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: DIVSPL is a declarative programming language designed to solve the FizzBuzz problem. It's a one-dimensional language with a static, strong type system. The language aims to make expressing FizzBuzz solutions concise and easy to understand.
< 1731523109 486517 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: What is the purpose of the language Malbolge?
> 1731523216 137624 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Malbolge's primary purpose is to be intentionally difficult to use, making it a challenging and esoteric programming language. It's designed to be a frustrating and complex language, pushing the boundaries of what's considered "computable" in programming.
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< 1731523252 474415 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: What is the purpose of the language BLC?
> 1731523313 723552 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: BLC (Binary Lambda Calculus) is a self-interpreting programming language that uses binary digits to represent lambda calculus expressions. It's designed to be a simplified and efficient way to express and execute lambda calculus programs. BLC's self-interpreter is a key feature, allowing it to execute programs directly without needing external...
> 1731523313 728162 PRIVMSG #esolangs :interpreters.
< 1731523331 426399 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, good so far. Now...
< 1731523337 313769 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: What is the purpose of the language Brainfuck?
< 1731523353 313014 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This one is tough because RAG has too many options to choose from, I think.
> 1731523441 408202 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Brainfuck is a minimalist programming language designed to be simple and challenging. It's known for its limited syntax, relying on a single-instruction set to manipulate a memory cell. The goal is to demonstrate the fundamental concepts of programming, emphasizing the importance of logic and problem-solving over complex syntax.
> 1731523513 948720 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07true14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=145383&oldid=145380 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+81) 10/* Examples */
< 1731523561 953322 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yep, a complete miss. BF was designed to have a small compiler, and arguably to implement P''.
< 1731523570 545375 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: What is the purpose of the language Cammy?
< 1731523614 26750 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...Also, "single-instruction set"? Bad grammar aside, that's wrong in either possible sense.
> 1731523817 193750 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Cammy is a functional programming language designed for expressing categorical logic. It's based on a static, strong, and implicit type system, making it suitable for representing mathematical structures using categories. Cammy's S-expression syntax and primitive recursive nature allow for concise and expressive code. It's particularly well-suited...
> 1731523817 197812 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for tasks involving dataflow programming and categorical logic.
> 1731523862 335365 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07P14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=145384&oldid=107258 5* 03Corbin 5* (+28) 10Bluelink Bhm.
< 1731523939 518720 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So. On one hand, I can't argue against a single word of that. But OTOH we can see that the RAG is not reliable for articles of that length; it's iffy on BLC and whiffs on Brainfuck.
< 1731524035 27942 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's funny how the LLMs can show us the existence of blind spots: hey look, the LLM has the same blind spot as us! But it can't explain what's missing.
< 1731525071 328270 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also BF normally has more than one memory cell
< 1731525093 556561 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder if it still gets easy ones wrong?
< 1731525101 670973 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: why was Advance The Wheel! created?
> 1731525110 73181 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Advance The Wheel! (ATH!) was created as a playful, experimental language designed to explore the limits of programming. It's a "toy language" meant to be fun and challenging, pushing the boundaries of what's possible with a simple, yet expressive syntax.
< 1731525132 288256 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, still gets it wrong
< 1731525137 336843 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: What is the purpose of the language Advance The Wheel!?
< 1731525236 219115 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hard prompts are really sensitive to word choice, so let's see apples-to-apples how bad it is.
< 1731525276 430033 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: why was Advance The Wheel! created?
< 1731525283 27977 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs ::P
> 1731525311 837469 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Advance The Wheel! is a self-interpreter language designed to create a small, efficient, and flexible programming language. It achieves this by using a unique control flow based on a wheel that advances based on program commands. This allows for a compact and metacircular language with potential applications in computational linguistics and the...
> 1731525311 840941 PRIVMSG #esolangs :creation of new programming languages.
> 1731525317 877758 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Advance The Wheel! (ATH!) was created as a playful, experimental language designed to explore the limits of programming. It's a "toy language" meant to be fun and challenging, pushing the boundaries of what's possible with a simple, yet expressive syntax.
< 1731525333 58340 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :u'i Zero temperature.
< 1731525409 798799 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yes, it still got it wrong even with korvo's wording (although the second sentence is correct and the first sentence is arguably correct, the third is obviously wrong)
< 1731525418 598681 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it missed the actual answer entirely
< 1731525471 168658 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: Please write a haiku about Advance The Wheel!?
> 1731525477 421716 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: A wheel's slow turn spins, Advance The Wheel, a dream's call, Code dances, it leaps.
< 1731525507 161086 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :apparently it can't count
< 1731525510 825136 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :TBH I'm somewhat surprised that I got the exact same answer... I expected some degree of randomness. Maybe that's wrong or maybe there's a cache.
< 1731525523 271470 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it does look vaguely like a haiku from a distance, but the details are all wrong
< 1731525527 321081 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is typical of generative AI
< 1731525794 576691 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I think it's configured to have "zero temperature"; there's a randomness slider in [0,1] and at 0 it will always pick the most likely token in a greedy loop.
< 1731525820 890044 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :This reminds me that OpenAI's showcase example of "Chain of Thought" is absolute bullshit. https://openai.com/index/learning-to-reason-with-llms/  ...you get a weird cryptogram. And the very first step is a recipe for decoding, and all the "reasoning" is boring step-by-step application of those rules that came out of nowhere. None of "oh each ciphertext word is 2 times longer than the plain text...
< 1731525827 333684 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :...word so let's group letters in pairs" that would constitute a guided solution process.
< 1731526044 763013 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Will it bamboozle people who've never solved a cryptogram? I bet it will. But it does *not* demonstrate reasoning. I also wonder what they've cooked to enable this kind of thing; dealing with sequences of semi-random letters is not exactly an LLM task.
< 1731526264 95826 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Imagine if the showcase was an instance of Fermi estimation. I'd be far more impressed.
< 1731526569 332691 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: anyway I guess that means you have to inject your own randomness and rephrasing questions will do that
< 1731527030 250819 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Yeah, that's a way of looking at it. The way that I think of it is in terms of conditional probability; after a long run of hard tokens (the prompt), the model's probability distribution is going to stay relatively hard for a while. It'll fuzz out eventually, but only with like a Lyapunov exponent or whatever.
< 1731527315 828437 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :The above stated purpose of the language BLC is mostly wrong
< 1731527358 812303 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :what the heck is a self-interpreting programming language ? 
> 1731527360 774189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gravilang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=145385 5* 03Bogdan192848 5* (+1649) 10Created page with "=Gravilang= '''Gravilang''' is an programing language so small that it can run on literal balls (i am actually trying to do that btw using Gravitrax), while still being able to to conditions (not necesarelly turing complete because it cannot do nested conditions)
< 1731527382 532024 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :all PL's have self interpreters
< 1731527412 356933 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :BLC is not a way to execute lambda calculus programs either
< 1731527457 348438 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :unless you interpret that as adding basic IO to pure lambda calculus
< 1731527475 457166 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BLC is a *lifestyle*.
< 1731527496 385220 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :BLC's self-interpreter doesn't let you execute programs without an external interpreter
< 1731527570 201878 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :tromp: to be fair it got all the rest wrong, too
< 1731527588 308550 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :the original purpose was to have a very simple definition of Algorithmic Complexity giving very small constants
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< 1731527650 51524 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :when I tried it on a language designed for one primary purpose, which is stated in the first paragraph of the article, it still failed
< 1731527695 385243 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It seems like RAG has diminishing or even negative returns on a large database. DIVSPL is the only one to get a good answer.
< 1731527705 996451 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Er, on a large article, rather.
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