< 1733357010 429978 :mtm!~textual@47.202.75.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1733357150 843737 :mtm!~textual@47.202.75.129 JOIN #esolangs mtm :Textual User > 1733358309 801989 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147504&oldid=73807 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+31) 10 > 1733358327 260955 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147505&oldid=146039 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+31) 10 < 1733358538 444175 :olsner!~olsner@c83-252-234-66.bredband.tele2.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1733359010 198211 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147506&oldid=147504 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+4) 10additional distinction > 1733359023 370237 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147507&oldid=147505 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+4) 10additional distinction < 1733359541 83428 :olsner!~olsner@c83-252-234-66.bredband.tele2.se JOIN #esolangs olsner :olsner? < 1733361635 528757 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1733362771 583912 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147508&oldid=147336 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+14) 10/* random stuff */ < 1733362775 83817 :olsner!~olsner@c83-252-234-66.bredband.tele2.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds > 1733362792 225909 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147509&oldid=147508 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+17) 10 < 1733363347 134177 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement < 1733363867 964803 :olsner!~olsner@c83-252-234-66.bredband.tele2.se JOIN #esolangs olsner :olsner? < 1733364720 30935 :olsner!~olsner@c83-252-234-66.bredband.tele2.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1733366958 94786 :olsner!~olsner@c83-252-234-66.bredband.tele2.se JOIN #esolangs olsner :olsner? < 1733367765 127268 :olsner!~olsner@c83-252-234-66.bredband.tele2.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds > 1733369694 467669 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Addit14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147510 5* 03TheBigH 5* (+240) 10Created page < 1733370120 325209 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1733370443 625154 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1733370870 940254 :olsner!~olsner@c83-252-234-66.bredband.tele2.se JOIN #esolangs olsner :olsner? < 1733375001 270592 :MizMahem!sid296354@user/mizmahem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1733375013 981286 :MizMahem!sid296354@user/mizmahem JOIN #esolangs MizMahem :🐍🐔 < 1733375049 452245 :citrons!~citrons@alt.mondecitronne.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1733375171 651008 :citrons!~citrons@alt.mondecitronne.com JOIN #esolangs citrons :citrons < 1733375273 955091 :olsner!~olsner@c83-252-234-66.bredband.tele2.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds > 1733375494 661309 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Treadnil14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147511&oldid=147163 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+4) 10Correct instance of "instruction" to "half instruction" > 1733375541 414908 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Treadnil14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147512&oldid=147511 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+4) 10missed a spot > 1733379280 110379 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:BoundedBeans/Programs14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147513 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (+29936) 10Created page with "==2-Player Tic-Tac-Toe in C-INTERCAL== ===How to use=== The game will display the board, then whose turn it is. Enter the X coordinate, followed by the Y coordinate (ONE, TWO, or THREE for each). If those coordinates have already been played, yo > 1733379346 928084 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:BoundedBeans/INTERCAL Tic-Tac-Toe14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147514&oldid=115633 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (-12877) 10Replaced content with "Moved to [[User:BoundedBeans/Programs]]" > 1733379372 715301 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:BoundedBeans/C Sharp HBCHT Polyglot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147515&oldid=112127 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (-6190) 10Replaced content with "Moved to [[User:BoundedBeans/Programs]]" > 1733379402 502620 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:BoundedBeans/??? 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 {   ;("Hello, world!")print } ()main func 
1733419948 969186 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03ERR0R.heheheha 5* 10New user account < 1733420174 243444 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Lately I've been using S-expressions. They're easy to parse, can be transformed into other tree-like common syntax like JSON or XML, and have very simple tree homomorphisms. < 1733420186 586665 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k > 1733421575 910664 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Tomrs123 2 5* 10New user account > 1733421782 136624 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147546&oldid=147522 5* 03Tomrs123 2 5* (+225) 10 > 1733421924 222050 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147547&oldid=146956 5* 03Tomrs123 2 5* (+1406) 10/* 99 Bottles of Beer */ < 1733422105 620287 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1733422162 488931 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1733422231 668 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Befunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147548&oldid=147547 5* 03Tomrs123 2 5* (+0) 10oops. < 1733422282 570644 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1733422386 277857 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Aadenboy/Bincot draft14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147549 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+1149) 10draft < 1733424304 313857 :ajal!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1733424384 445228 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1733424714 681663 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Something that I had sometimes been using lately is DER < 1733424907 789255 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think JSON and XML have some problems, although they might be suitable for some purposes. < 1733424928 663825 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(PostScript notation is another possibility; it also has key/value lists, string, integer, boolean, arrays, and also comments) < 1733425005 435148 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :They're both useful because other tools consume them, mostly. I don't really prefer XML but it arises when working in the Java ecosystem. JSON has the formidable `jq` language nearby, can be viewed in a Web browser, is durable over ASCII transport, and is human-readable with a pretty-printer; it's not a bad linguafranca. < 1733425095 740034 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can't overstate how nice jq is. For some reason, I have real trouble remembering it when I'm not writing lots of it; but other than that it's great. It's powerful enough to self-interpret too. < 1733425116 87417 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :JSON doesn't have comments, optional trailing commas, non-Unicode text, binary data, requires keys to be text, and although you can allegedly write any numbers, JavaScript will be limited to 64-bit floating-point. < 1733425129 457216 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(This is likely more of my E bias; JSON started as Data-E, a subset of E describing plain data.) < 1733425130 677219 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Some of these things are not needed for a binary-based format, but would be helpful in text-based formats. < 1733425169 927875 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, ECMAScript has been bad for JSON. Fortunately, Python, Ruby, and lots of other languages will gladly write and read bigints in JSON. < 1733425177 563313 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Also, what kind of data structures are useful depends on the programs; for some uses, JSON has a suitable structure but others it doesn't) < 1733425198 711860 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :JavaScript does have a integer type, although it was added after JSON was invented and cannot be used in JSON. < 1733425317 956540 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :DER is a binary format (although I had made up a few new types in it too, such as key/value list), which is already going to be used by programs that deal with HTTPS and other TLS-based protocols anyways, and I had made up a text-based format called TER and a program to convert TER->DER, so that is another possibility. < 1733425338 927512 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is this related to BER? I see you talking a lot about ASN.1. < 1733425377 580198 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes; DER is a subset of BER, which only allows one possible encoding, so it is a canonical form (the other canonical form is CER, but I think that DER is better) < 1733425458 96035 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Probably the most common use of DER is X.509 certificates, although it can be used for other data as well if you want to do. < 1733425497 749804 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's the only place I see ASN.1. I know that it comes up in some industrial/manufacturing contexts. < 1733425692 554695 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(My "ASN.1X" variant (which adds the types I mentioned) also deprecates some things and adds some additional restrictions (e.g. the presence or absence of an optional field (or one with a default value) must be deteminable without looking ahead), although X.509 does not violate these restrictions as far as I know.) < 1733426427 456642 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Also, XML had been used for things it is not suitable for much in past; the structure of XML may be suitable for some things (e.g. rich text) but is bad for many other things.) < 1733426470 730849 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure. XML's handling of binary data is still terrible, in particular. JSON doesn't really solve this, but the community seems to have decided that Base64 will work. < 1733426734 81260 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :PostScript has hex strings and ascii85 strings. TER has hex strings and base64 strings. (In all of these cases they are converted to binary strings) < 1733426959 314053 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1733428376 846864 :ajal!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1733428398 427477 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1733428536 821268 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I personally think that prolog is one of the worst languages to learn as a beginner programmer. There are way too many cases when a mistake results in backtracking failure rather than aborting, which makes it hard to debug. Now if you want to learn how to write an interpreter, then prolog has an advantage, which is that just like lisps it's shipped with a quite versatile reader that you can < 1733428542 890433 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :easily invoke in runtime, the same reader that is used to read prolog programs, and that reader has a much more flexible and convenient syntax than the lisps that do the same. Mathematica is probably better than either of these with respect to flexible built-in reader of the same language, but unless you can get a license through your school it's also rather expensive, so I can't recommend it for that < 1733428548 829801 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :reason. < 1733428609 116353 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :There was some weird word for this property of lisps and prolog and mathematic, reading data in the same form as the program, perhaps "homoiconic". < 1733428910 452896 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, for sure. I continue to hope that wWwwW is learning six or so different languages, and that this introductory taste of Prolog will be balanced out by a Forth. < 1733428928 814962 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I've no fear that, at some point, wWwwW will have to learn something like Python.) < 1733428970 742045 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wish Wolfram weren't the only popular implementation of M-expressions. There's no real reason that that technology has to cost money. < 1733431095 976120 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Unrelated to that, I have a weird eso-syntax question. Consider a programming language syntax that uses the traditional fortran/algol/C syntax for named function calls, with parenthesis and commas, so f() or f(A) or f(A,B) or f(A,B,C) are function calls where f is a function name and A, B, C are expressions. Suppose that the language is also like haskell or rust in that struct/enum constructors use a < 1733431102 138895 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :similar syntax, so f can also be the name of a constructor in those expressions, and in that case you can use the parenthesis comma notation in a pattern too. Would it make sense to name some of the important built-in or library constructors or functions with a name that has digits only? Eg. instead of False() or None() you write 0(), instead of True() you write 1(), instead of Just(A) you write 1(A), < 1733431108 124444 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :instead of a tuple (A,B) you write 1(A,B), instead of a cons pair [A|B] you write 2(A,B) and maybe 2(A,B,C) means the double cons [A,B|C] by analogy. Or 4(somefunction,somelist) is a map, 5(somefunction,somelist) is a filter, 6(somefunction,somelist) is a fold. To be clear these are numerals used as names, not actual numbers, so if you have a variable that has the number 2 as its value then you can't < 1733431114 132576 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :call that as a cons constructor. 2(A,B) gets to be unambiguous special syntax because you can't call a number. < 1733431137 550498 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Rust uses numeric names for the *fields* of tuple structs, but I haven't seen all-digit names used as constructor or function names yet. < 1733431148 207851 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there a language that works this way? < 1733431189 492631 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This could be appropriate for a langauge that has somewhat terse syntax, even if it doesn't necessarily go full golf language route. < 1733431207 601356 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I may consider it for a toy language. < 1733433876 756604 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wow. this video by Usage Electric "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe1wYwGcjlo" casually mentions one of the most hardcore esolanging challenges that I'd ever heard of. you know how multiple retrocomputing hobbyists have built a computer of their own original design from retro hardware, eg. https://esolangs.org/wiki/Magic-1 and https://esolangs.org/wiki/BMOW_1 ? Usagi Electric is building one from < 1733433882 955469 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*vacuum tubes*. > 1733433910 190802 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/Emojic collab with yayimhere and ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147550&oldid=147535 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+332) 10/* commands */ did a complete makeover of the command definitions section < 1733434121 348425 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's not even the topic of the video, he just mentions it casually as if every retro hardware collector had one of those things in their house. > 1733434212 702955 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Emojic chances.png10]]" > 1733434232 957632 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/Emojic collab with yayimhere and ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147552&oldid=147550 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+351) 10/* suggested names */ < 1733434687 517124 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot QUIT :Excess Flood < 1733435001 250302 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron < 1733435009 652185 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Remarkable, thanks for sharing. > 1733435805 580819 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07F (None1)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147553&oldid=132172 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+0) 10fixing one letter (major typo) > 1733436313 945115 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Desrever14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147554&oldid=147545 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+42) 10Categories > 1733436771 215544 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Addpocalypse14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147555&oldid=145403 5* 03Arctenik 5* (+136) 10/* Turing-complete variation */ marking my own unsigned comment lol > 1733436938 443405 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147556&oldid=146740 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-10) 10 < 1733436980 889605 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1733437066 256930 :supercode!~supercode@user/supercode JOIN #esolangs supercode :[https://web.libera.chat] supercode > 1733437505 285427 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147557&oldid=147134 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+486) 10/* File removal */ new section > 1733437542 862106 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Baba is you14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147558 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+25) 10while I'm at it... > 1733437565 606219 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Baba is You14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147559 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+25) 10while I'm at it... < 1733437780 867205 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is a documentation available of the computer with the vacuum tubes? < 1733437835 404288 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I'm still looking that up now. There's the playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnw98JPyObn0v-98gRV9PfzAQONTKxql3 , and possibly more on Patreon. < 1733437874 565193 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll definitely need to create a page for this on the wiki > 1733437955 943419 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147560&oldid=145124 5* 03B jonas 5* (+146) 10/* Todo */ > 1733437982 920882 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147561&oldid=147560 5* 03B jonas 5* (+44) 10/* Todo */ > 1733438131 655959 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Burgercamp/Constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147562&oldid=130672 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+121) 10/* 26 and onward */ added several new values and optimized 70 and variants > 1733438199 846608 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Burgercamp/Constants14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147563&oldid=147562 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+55) 10/* words in burgercamp */ added dom and mod > 1733438229 264729 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:A14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147564 5* 035anz 5* (+266) 10Created page with "== Hello, World! == The hello world program contains 152,570,517,485,533,290,608,442,189,665,495,821,647,629,752,124,269,350,649,720,544,795,330,670,304,842,157,265,582,311,948,436 As if you're curious. -~~~" > 1733438242 56281 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Aadenboy14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147565&oldid=147240 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+348) 10hey! > 1733438451 854486 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Fazaazafg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147566&oldid=109761 5* 03Fazaazafg 5* (+22) 10 > 1733438579 925708 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147567&oldid=144285 5* 03B jonas 5* (+799) 10/* Retro style hardware */ new section > 1733438751 972119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/last edit14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147568 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+437) 10Created page with "{{lowercase}} every user has a last edit. most people dont try and think about it too much, but it will always happen to us someday. someday we will fix our last typo. someday we will create our last article. someday we will categorize our last l < 1733438895 457567 :perlbot_!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1733438953 518547 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1733438953 826789 :supercode!~supercode@user/supercode QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1733438986 18048 :perlbot_!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot NICK :perlbot < 1733439172 340269 :supercode!~supercode@user/supercode JOIN #esolangs supercode :[https://web.libera.chat] supercode < 1733439768 987121 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1733439930 802968 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1733440352 95794 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147569&oldid=147557 5* 03None1 5* (+289) 10/* Can you help fix this mess */ < 1733440471 336273 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1733440701 512581 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:A14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147570&oldid=147564 5* 035anz 5* (+125) 10 < 1733440758 127096 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1733441030 47640 :supercode!~supercode@user/supercode QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1733442401 632913 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Dtp09 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Tile xkcd randomnumber.png10]]" > 1733442529 443329 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tile14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147572&oldid=147497 5* 03Dtp09 5* (+1303) 10/* Code Examples */ added xkcd random number < 1733443096 895893 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…