< 1733789022 335575 :mtm!~textual@47.202.75.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1733789043 273135 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1733789154 426319 :mtm!~textual@47.202.75.129 JOIN #esolangs mtm :Textual User < 1733789262 327277 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron > 1733790444 271210 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Qawtykit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147851&oldid=147832 5* 03Qawtykit 5* (+1071) 10added Shakespeare < 1733791687 240569 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Had such trouble with today's part 1 in Burlesque. Both two first attempts (using the SetAt builtin to update the list) worked for the example but were infeasibly slow on the actual input; the second even somehow used multiple gigabytes of memory, probably due to some subtlety of the Burlesque interpreter that I'm not aware of. < 1733791706 441011 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Finally got something that runs in a practical amount of time by building a separate list of the filled-in spaces and coerce-adding it to the original to fill in the gaps. < 1733791720 285642 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :riXX0[+2cozi{+.bxj^p{0}j.*#r.*}m^FLJJ{z?}fI-1+]2CO{.-}m^?dj:nz<-saPp{j{0}j.*}Z]FL?+?dPP.+zi)pd++ < 1733791768 484787 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`blsq "2333133121414131402"riXX0[+2cozi{+.bxj^p{0}j.*#r.*}m^FLJJ{z?}fI-1+]2CO{.-}m^?dj:nz<-saPp{j{0}j.*}Z]FL?+?dPP.+zi)pd++ < 1733791769 708252 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :1928 < 1733791775 67124 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Forgot that was there. < 1733791807 665105 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm sure there's a much simpler way of accomplishing it but at least it works. < 1733791869 15534 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1733793467 328163 :craigo_!~craigo@180-150-37-130.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1733793617 984927 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1733796695 742880 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement < 1733807699 278470 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in < 1733807911 952518 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron > 1733810507 294036 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Reversed14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147852 5* 03None1 5* (+715) 10Created page with "'''Reversed''' is an esolang invented by [[User:None1]]. It doesn't have jumps, but its control flow can be reversed. ==Commands== It has these commands: R: reverse control flow direction other characters: print the character If the instruction pointer goes to the left > 1733810565 826660 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147853&oldid=147371 5* 03None1 5* (+61) 10/* General languages */ > 1733810607 572306 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147854&oldid=147372 5* 03None1 5* (+61) 10 < 1733811024 18692 :zenmov!~zenmov@user/zenmov QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1733811150 522831 :zenmov!~zenmov@user/zenmov JOIN #esolangs zenmov :zenmov < 1733815885 639335 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1733816538 277520 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147855&oldid=147848 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy's CA discoveries 5* (+462) 10/* Text disappears when copied into search bar */ new section < 1733818159 796024 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1733819772 386797 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147856&oldid=147855 5* 03ZCX islptng 5* (+130) 10/* ? */ new section > 1733820637 170749 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147857&oldid=147375 5* 03ZCX islptng 5* (+616) 10/* Please make a interpreter for 6 trits, 243 trytes! */ new section < 1733821311 912424 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1733821630 568676 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1733822823 43460 :craigo_!~craigo@180-150-37-130.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1733825175 922196 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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Instead of the classic eight commands, TapeFuck has only seven. TapeFuck operates on two tapes: one is the classic Brainfuck tape containing 30,000 positions initially filled with zeros and is arranged on a horizontal axis. T > 1733833135 70676 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TapeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147865&oldid=147864 5* 03TeslaX93 5* (+4) 10 > 1733833152 685122 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TapeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147866&oldid=147865 5* 03TeslaX93 5* (+0) 10 > 1733833163 697819 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TapeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147867&oldid=147866 5* 03TeslaX93 5* (-64) 10 > 1733833187 538891 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TapeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147868&oldid=147867 5* 03TeslaX93 5* (+7) 10 > 1733833202 570353 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TapeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147869&oldid=147868 5* 03TeslaX93 5* (-1) 10 > 1733833317 998134 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147870&oldid=147830 5* 03None1 5* (+367) 10/* Abuse filter paradox */ > 1733833577 392246 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147871&oldid=90428 5* 03None1 5* (+331) 10 > 1733833599 508717 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147872&oldid=109488 5* 03None1 5* (+9) 10 > 1733833964 713928 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147873&oldid=147858 5* 03ZCX islptng 5* (+605) 10 > 1733834081 247632 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147874&oldid=147871 5* 03None1 5* (-6) 10/* Neography Wiki */ > 1733834141 620685 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147875&oldid=147873 5* 03ZCX islptng 5* (+76) 10 > 1733835550 938890 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147876&oldid=147874 5* 03None1 5* (+321) 10/* Copyright violations */ > 1733836188 482828 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Poetic/Interpreter14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147877&oldid=137047 5* 03None1 5* (+0) 10 > 1733836432 20276 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147878 5* 03None1 5* (+3872) 10Created page with "'''''' is an esolang invented by [[User:None1]], it is based on [[Poetic]]. Programs in this esolang are like abstract Chinese poetry. ==Overview== The sole form of data storage in Poetic is the unsigned byte (i.e. an integer in the range 0-255). has a "tape" of 30,000 of thes > 1733836478 983420 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147879&oldid=147669 5* 03None1 5* (+10) 10/* Non-alphabetic */ > 1733836570 312754 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147880&oldid=147854 5* 03None1 5* (+45) 10/* My Esolangs */ > 1733836580 347261 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:None114]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147881&oldid=147880 5* 03None1 5* (-4) 10/* My Esolangs */ > 1733837015 780900 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147882&oldid=147875 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+304) 10 > 1733838321 475228 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147883&oldid=147882 5* 03ZCX islptng 5* (+152) 10/* ? */ > 1733838466 250781 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147884&oldid=147883 5* 03ZCX islptng 5* (+1) 10/* ? */ < 1733839673 985064 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs amby :realname > 1733842595 647117 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Qawtykit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147885&oldid=147851 5* 03Qawtykit 5* (+202) 10added Python looping counter > 1733844335 957020 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Analogia14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147886&oldid=147850 5* 03Ais523 5* (-23) 10undo; don't remove or retarget links just because they're red redlinks show places where new articles could be written to improve the wiki, whereas a list of all uncomputable languages is not a good way to define the concept of computability < 1733845087 306081 :FreeFull!~freefull@epd110.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl QUIT :Quit: Rebooting < 1733845128 469481 :FreeFull!~freefull@epd110.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN #esolangs FreeFull :FreeFull > 1733848665 115602 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147887&oldid=147884 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy's CA discoveries 5* (-1635) 10/* Who is Leonhard Euler */ There has been a lot of vandalism lately.) (---- > 1733848918 669545 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147888&oldid=147878 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy's CA discoveries 5* (+17) 10 > 1733849241 401645 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User telk:Win7HE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147889&oldid=146674 5* 03Win7HE 5* (-322) 10Blanked the page > 1733849275 613997 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User telk:Win7HE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147890&oldid=147889 5* 03Win7HE 5* (+27) 10 > 1733849318 918310 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User telk:Win7HE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147891&oldid=147890 5* 03Win7HE 5* (-27) 10Blanked the page > 1733849355 107870 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Win7HE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147892&oldid=146653 5* 03Win7HE 5* (-7) 10 > 1733849407 167095 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hyperinotoidion14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147893&oldid=146788 5* 03Win7HE 5* (+41) 10 > 1733849612 815440 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0713 bytes :D14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147894&oldid=147861 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+4) 10/* Cat program(?) */ > 1733849998 384625 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hyperinotoidion14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147895&oldid=147893 5* 03Win7HE 5* (+349) 10 > 1733850140 597075 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147896&oldid=147766 5* 03Win7HE 5* (+33) 10 > 1733850191 473689 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:FISH WALKING 14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147897 5* 03Win7HE 5* (+39) 10Created page with "theres a fish walking - [[User:Win7HE]]" > 1733850209 332880 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Win7HE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147898&oldid=146783 5* 03Win7HE 5* (+0) 10 > 1733850237 57905 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Win7HE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147899&oldid=147898 5* 03Win7HE 5* (+21) 10 < 1733850625 380693 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...In the absence of more serious policy, I can't decide whether I'm supposed to do anything about links from non-joke pages to joke pages. I'm choosing to do nothing, but be aware that it's possible to get graffiti'd to death by teenagers. > 1733853760 645356 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147900&oldid=147728 5* 03ERR0R.heheheha 5* (+232) 10/* Introductions */ > 1733854040 943279 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Emelang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147901&oldid=142040 5* 03Emelang 5* (+25) 10added queue-based esolang < 1733854282 979143 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1733854352 492764 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1733854366 94026 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1733854539 606294 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Queue-based esolang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147902 5* 03Emelang 5* (+458) 10Created page with ""queue-based esolang" is, well, a queue-based esolang. It's also [User:Emelang|emelchenko]'s first time in a while writing an interpreter for one of his esolangs. == Commands == 
p
: pushes the character after it onto the queue. 
q
: pops > 1733854567 760836 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Queue-based esolang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147903&oldid=147902 5* 03Emelang 5* (+6) 10
? no thanks!
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< 1733862059 442502 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
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< 1733872000 234439 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: so the links have to make sense in the context of the page they're on; it certainly can make sense for a non-joke to reference a joke, but that's different from a non-joke being part of the joke
< 1733872104 76015 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Okay. Related: how do I decide whether Hyperinotoidion or similar pages should be expanded? On one hand, it could be interpreted as a non-joke which isn't a trivial BF substitution, but that would require getting rid of the joke formatting and using templates like {{stub}}.
< 1733872109 191695 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :on the BF page in particular, curation is a problem because there are so many derivatives, historically I think the plan has been to move the less interesting links to separate pages linked from the main BF page
< 1733872172 186811 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we do have a policy of "if you can't figure out what to do it is best to do nothing" and that a) has helped me keep sane and has probably been for the good of the wiki overall, but b) occasionally produces bad results in some specific cases
< 1733872224 21141 :leah2!~leah@vuxu.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1733872229 792155 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :at some point the wiki probably needs to collectively have a serious discussion about "pages that are jokes, as opposed to documenting jokes" – especially if there isn't an underlying language
< 1733872239 411602 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I am not sure how it would go or even what my own opinion is
< 1733872280 994227 :leah2!~leah@vuxu.org JOIN #esolangs leah2 :Leah Neukirchen
< 1733872335 714215 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :things like the 100 badly translated versions of the article about ORK are a problem, although those are slowly being moved to a pastebin which I approve of as a solution
< 1733872379 57058 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in a way, the fundamental problem is that esolangs are (or at least can be) a form of art and just about anything can be classified as, or at least viewed as, art
< 1733872402 432355 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it is hard to say "this is not esolang-related and so it's offtopic" because almost anything can be treated as though it's an esolang
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< 1733872604 184211 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :one big problem we have (which I fear I have contributed to) is that originally, people made esolangs and then documented them on the wiki (but they had a separate existence outside which could be documented), whereas nowadays most esolangs on the wiki were created for the wiki and may not exist in any sense other than the wiki page
< 1733872635 602358 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(to the extent that some users believe or have believed that you could change an esolang by changing the wiki page, which has to be some sort of logical fallacy but I'm not sure which one)
< 1733873063 49842 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You can run an art gallery without inviting graffiti. (Feel free to stretch the metaphor: outside the gallery, I think graffiti is lovely and important.)
< 1733873144 584943 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(a) yeah, it's real easy for me to do nothing. (b) if I make the mistake of clicking on Special:Random a few times, I usually take psychic damage; it's not rewarding like English WP or other wikis.
< 1733873203 202940 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: well, Esolang intentionally has low standards for inclusion because it was founded as a response to esolang-related content being deleted from Wikipedia – I think an art gallery with similarly low standards to ours *would* accept graffiti
< 1733873220 54003 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although it'd be sorted separately from the rest of the art
< 1733873281 187698 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I agree, and I'd hope that I've contributed enough stubs to show that I believe in inclusionism. It's rather about the spray-painters leaving the spray-paint exhibit and redecorating parts of the main hall, so to speak.
< 1733873364 310947 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The Discord folks seem to have a culture of what's called "tagging", where a young artist earns respect by running into a condemned/dangerous/locally-legendary house and spraying their name onto a wall. I know better than to dissuade taggers directly; perhaps we could try to figure out why they think that this gives them renown.
< 1733873386 911912 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the "semi-serious language list" was a good idea but I hate the name
< 1733873536 424138 :leah2!~leah@vuxu.org JOIN #esolangs leah2 :Leah Neukirchen
> 1733873757 293216 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07General Compute Coprocessor14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147909&oldid=131934 5* 03B jonas 5* (+31) 10[[Category:Programming games]]
> 1733873766 260587 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07GHost CPU14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147910&oldid=131900 5* 03B jonas 5* (+31) 10[[Category:Programming games]]
< 1733873835 196029 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, the half-seriousness is a good way of thinking about it. Certainly it reminds me that I'm being too serious.
< 1733873901 633819 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :most of my esolang-related interactions are very serious, to the point that I've stopped leaving jokes in my languages except occasionally the names
< 1733873923 127276 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :most of my esolangs are tools for proving or demonstrating things, after all
< 1733874408 557066 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1733874539 672364 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I have plenty of jokier ones in my history
< 1733874617 675802 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in a way, a problem with the pure-joke esolangs is that huge numbers of them are just the same joke as each other, and it's hard to do an existing joke better than the previous versions of it
< 1733874692 192144 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. it is difficult to make a language like TURKEY BOMB but better (and in a sense, it's only a language because it says it's a language – the spec doesn't have enough detail to determine how expressions could be evaluated or commands would be run)