< 1735257752 902979 :mtm!~textual@47.202.75.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1735257934 18383 :mtm!~textual@47.202.75.129 JOIN #esolangs mtm :Textual User < 1735261225 137503 :amby!~ambylastn@2a00:23c5:ce05:7801:3afc:7783:50f2:eab3 QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement > 1735262348 213497 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03.k 5* 10New user account > 1735262624 793868 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07+++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148918&oldid=145142 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+75) 10 < 1735273795 619757 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Matt parker tried to arrange a secret Santa among Youtuber mathematicians, the present buying assignment decided by a cryptographical protocol with no central authority: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqOb5n3BIn0 < 1735273979 301272 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just like most such cryptography, I consider this esoteric, because it would be easier for them to find a trusted third party < 1735274002 921295 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's a great example of "secure multiparty computation" also called "SMPC". Interestingly, this particular example, computing a cycle, is not in the Red Book. < 1735274068 529962 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, it's certainly an interesting enough problem to be worth the research < 1735274071 451666 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Indeed. The Red Book's relevant chapter is called "Esoteric Protocols" and also includes topics that are definitely relevant to mainstream practice: secure elections, anonymous broadcasting, and digital cash! < 1735274112 68486 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :agreed, such protocols are worth to research because they can have non-esoteric applications < 1735274157 985798 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The trusted third party doesn't even have to be that trusted; they don't have to know who folks are. Trent can pick random permutations; these almost always embed at least one derangement, and everybody in that derangement can be assigned a temporary partner while another, smaller random permutation is picked recursively. < 1735274181 548149 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Then any cycle-like properties can be statistically built using random-permutation theory. < 1735274414 507122 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"they don't have to know who folks are" => that's also esoteric, but the secret third party could get a list of public keys, one for each participant, shuffle a gift-giving cycle, for each participant encrypt with their public key who they're giving a gift to, then publish the encoded names. but that's also a rather esoteric optimization, since all 18 participants know who the other 17 are, and they're < 1735274420 991894 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :all already Youtubers so somewhat publicly known people. < 1735274541 545704 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you need a bit more complicated algorithm if you also want each gift giver to get the mail address of the recipient, but nobody learn unnecessary mail addresses < 1735274635 116175 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yep. That part of the protocol *is* in the Red Book; it's the same technique used to verify the eligibility of voters in a secure election. It would be possible to confirm that exactly one person has accessed each address. < 1735274659 27881 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Because each access has to leave behind a pubkey which can be used to audit that access.) < 1735274833 690056 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which red book is this? I assume it's not the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) Nomenclature of Inorganic Chemistry < 1735275392 465184 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also don't know what red book it is; I was going to ask too < 1735275489 258042 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I would think also that it is probably not the red book of IUPAC and also that it is not the red book of audio CDs, but there are probably other red books) < 1735275506 110141 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have some books written by Matt Parker but not the videos. < 1735275790 248206 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Applied Cryptography" by Schneier. It's a standard cryptography overview; I have it on my shelf mostly as a demonstration of the underlying First/Second Amendment rights it embodies. < 1735276017 303489 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thanks < 1735279292 129066 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1735279329 220630 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Huh. Maybe the theory of attitudes is just the type-level theory of jets. < 1735279375 67933 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :In Cammy, I formalized jets; a jet is merely a replacement for an expression in terms of other expressions, partially ordered with respect to occurrence in other jets. < 1735279513 805786 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Perhaps an attitude is a type alias which is partially ordered WRT other attitudes. The partial order serves the same purpose as for jets: it prevents users defining systems which aren't well-founded. > 1735281288 456775 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148919 5* 03DifferentDance8 5* (+803) 10Created page with "11 is an esolang made by [[User:DifferentDance8]], approximately 2 days after christmas :P I named it as such because 11 was the first number to not have an article here, and because 11 is a cool number (as such, EVERY SINGLE COMMAND is 11-themed in some way) {| clas > 1735291644 780450 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Featured languages/Candidates14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148920&oldid=147949 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+631) 10/* List of candidates */ Thought [[FALSE]] would have been one of the previously featured languages, but apparently not. < 1735292059 244237 :joes!~joes@hardfought/member/joes JOIN #esolangs joes :realname < 1735296600 900823 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1735297518 134092 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1735297571 466511 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UserEdited14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148921&oldid=148817 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+925) 10 < 1735297585 59287 :joes!~joes@hardfought/member/joes QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1735297953 353092 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07(PSTF)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148922&oldid=148470 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+112) 10 > 1735298097 892762 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148923&oldid=141827 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+104) 10 < 1735298818 782868 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1735299107 617190 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1735299629 228649 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1735299643 363311 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :!zjoust backstop http://nethack4.org/pastebin/backstop.bfjoust < 1735299643 781005 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523.backstop: points 9.98, score 34.04, rank 3/47 < 1735299923 109979 :amby!~ambylastn@2a00:23c5:ce05:7801:960f:df27:58e7:9638 JOIN #esolangs amby :realname < 1735299977 773716 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :!zjoust backstop http://nethack4.org/pastebin/backstop.bfjoust < 1735299978 93662 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523.backstop: points 9.98, score 34.04, rank 3/47 (--) < 1735299986 866044 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :forgot to add the generation script < 1735300096 289851 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :!zjoust backstop http://nethack4.org/pastebin/backstop.bfjoust < 1735300096 627962 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523.backstop: points 9.98, score 34.04, rank 3/47 (--) < 1735300106 860297 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and golfed a bit < 1735300253 374905 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :o/ < 1735300954 267929 :mtm!~textual@47.202.75.129 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds > 1735301013 285352 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Gian07 5* 10New user account < 1735301164 309423 :mtm!~textual@47.202.75.129 JOIN #esolangs mtm :Textual User > 1735301298 842950 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148924&oldid=148750 5* 03Gian07 5* (+136) 10 < 1735301306 142677 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so, there seems to be another rock-paper-scissors-like cycle in BF Joust, in addition to the antishudder/triplock cycle: setting decoys early loses to tape length estimators, whereas setting decoys late loses to fast rush < 1735301330 192626 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and to pokes < 1735301375 581168 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but there isn't much fast rush or poke on the hill at the moment, which is why backstop does well (and yet there is enough that I can't easily get the strategy into first place) < 1735302149 90114 :fowl!~fowl@user/fowl QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds) < 1735302173 330689 :fowl!~fowl@user/fowl JOIN #esolangs fowl :fowl < 1735303482 57697 :amby!~ambylastn@2a00:23c5:ce05:7801:960f:df27:58e7:9638 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds > 1735303868 740791 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07true14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148925&oldid=148847 5* 0347 5* (-149) 10fuck true.js, i can't code in js > 1735303897 353685 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07true14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148926&oldid=148925 5* 0347 5* (-9) 10/* Unimplemented */ > 1735303919 929897 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07true14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148927&oldid=148926 5* 0347 5* (-62) 10/* Unimplemented */ > 1735303934 180583 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07true14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148928&oldid=148927 5* 0347 5* (+1) 10/* Unimplemented */ > 1735304052 94440 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[075D Deadfish with Multiverse Time Travel14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148929 5* 03Gian07 5* (+2035) 10Created page with "{{stub}} '''5D Deadfish with Multiverse Time Travel''' is an [[esoteric programming language]] invented by Gianluca Rainis in 2024. It was inspired by the [[5D Brainfuck With Multiverse Time Travel]], the [[5D 5D Brainfuck With Multiverse > 1735304085 572487 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07true14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148930&oldid=148928 5* 0347 5* (+1) 10/* Infinite loop */ < 1735304172 136811 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :i've been writing a 3d engine thingy in a language that's not really very esoteric but still pretty limited for the task at hand < 1735304289 363178 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's been pretty fun but i'm constantly hitting a performance ceiling where i can't do as much as i would like to < 1735304293 58716 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :or at least not fast enough < 1735304425 751320 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :and i've never written a game engine before so i don't really know what i'm doing < 1735304460 693436 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :the 3d maths is a pain and my movement feels weird > 1735305223 453607 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[075D Deadfish with Multiverse Time Travel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148931&oldid=148929 5* 03Gian07 5* (+747) 10 > 1735305380 891753 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[075D Deadfish with Multiverse Time Travel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148932&oldid=148931 5* 03Gian07 5* (+0) 10 > 1735305778 884491 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07true14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148933&oldid=148930 5* 0347 5* (-56) 10/* Unimplemented */ > 1735305921 118841 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07true14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148934&oldid=148933 5* 0347 5* (+47) 10/* Implemented */ > 1735306067 331780 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[075D Deadfish with Multiverse Time Travel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148935&oldid=148932 5* 03Gian07 5* (+907) 10 > 1735306260 697204 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[075D Deadfish with Multiverse Time Travel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148936&oldid=148935 5* 03Gian07 5* (+21) 10/* Examples */ < 1735307746 410815 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1735308357 450290 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :CPUs are generally bad at doing 3D graphics calculations quickly, that's why GPUs were invented < 1735308432 90870 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But that didn't stop anybody from trying. :) < 1735308490 275388 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if the language is inappropriate it means you may not be able to vectorise either, which would make the calculations even slower < 1735308493 330794 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(False as written. But enough people tried to give us a bunch of 3D games before the advent of GPUs) < 1735308569 995482 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think some early games had the bulk of the calculations precalculated < 1735308608 909856 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :i don't even have floats lol < 1735308613 665575 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :let alone vectors < 1735308654 28777 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think this definitely counts as esoprogramming even if it's in a non-eso language :-D < 1735308660 454578 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :nice lol < 1735308722 104932 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :i can show a short demo in a bit, i'm trying to debug what's causing me to drop frames despite my code drawing them in time < 1735308756 240505 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's so many moving pieces outside of my control and i know nothing about 90% of them < 1735308880 631863 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :With GPUs we instantly got higher resolutions and more polygons. < 1735308897 615454 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :one thing that annoys me about modern programming is how many layers there are that are all trying to build something on the layer directly below, which is often inefficient compared to going down an additional layer or two < 1735308913 996916 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1735309006 450877 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but can you justify the extra programming effort to management :P < 1735309110 976245 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sometimes the extra effort is negative :-P < 1735309145 175987 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :makefiles are a good example, it is normally easier to reimplement the relevant parts of make for your project than it is to write a makefile generator that handles all the possible corner cases < 1735309249 263344 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I guess a pithy way to express that is "make is easier to write than makefiles are" < 1735309251 804833 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :) < 1735309252 470305 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1735309289 471097 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I kind of like the make eso?lang < 1735309317 650810 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the sweet spot is probably medium sized projects that don't need to be portable < 1735309440 731032 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Plus the world has moved to a place where every new language has its own build tool. < 1735309463 479038 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've been using actual POSIX make for some things semi-recently < 1735309495 494362 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is a weird environment to write for, especially if you want to be compatible with extensions like VPATH < 1735309520 69782 :visilii!~visilii@213.24.125.237 JOIN #esolangs * :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1735309597 110683 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably my most silly use of `make` is parallelizing certain computations (split computation into chunks, have a single-threaded program that can process a chunk, write a makefile rule that produces an output file per chunk) < 1735309652 412538 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's also totally wrong in that it doesn't scale to multiple compute nodes :) < 1735309703 470842 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so this is strictly for personal use < 1735311749 483580 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net JOIN #esolangs amby :realname < 1735312081 59129 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1735312146 785983 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :i now think i'm missing frames because my video drivers are fucked < 1735313207 111429 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs sprout :sprout < 1735313441 994426 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :doesn't happen in i3 so it's a gnome thing < 1735313448 162974 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway i can now record the video < 1735313725 915199 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1735313911 484757 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://streamable.com/3wgjbq short demo < 1735313970 412435 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :not particularly exciting < 1735314637 246863 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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Very cool. < 1735317101 19710 :isabella!izabera@user/meow/izabera PRIVMSG #esolangs :ty! < 1735319024 482625 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1735321175 283529 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1735321434 264332 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Jive14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148939&oldid=148906 5* 0347 5* (+60) 10 > 1735322865 785668 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Jive14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148940&oldid=148939 5* 0347 5* (+25) 10/* Syntax */ > 1735322892 13066 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Jive14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148941&oldid=148940 5* 0347 5* (+21) 10 < 1735323776 478445 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1735323832 501009 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord > 1735323865 500491 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07COPY WITH @14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148942&oldid=135609 5* 0347 5* (+2) 10 > 1735325310 649022 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07COPY WITH @14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148943&oldid=148942 5* 0347 5* (+41) 10/* Examples */ > 1735325411 944745 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07COPY WITH @14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148944&oldid=148943 5* 0347 5* (+134) 10/* External resources */ < 1735326649 816809 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1735326779 476837 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1735327445 955761 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1735327658 305716 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1735327659 398805 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1735327822 246614 :lynndotpy!~rootcanal@134.122.123.70 QUIT :Quit: bye bye < 1735327866 279397 :lynndotpy6!~rootcanal@134.122.123.70 JOIN #esolangs lynndotpy :lynn > 1735327891 81329 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148945&oldid=147509 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+78) 10 < 1735328348 441087 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1735330649 853143 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1735331205 648191 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1735332220 182678 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1735332522 913100 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:TheCanon214]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148946&oldid=140150 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (+26) 10Added Hito < 1735332963 519938 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1735333862 41303 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hito14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148947 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (+1286) 10Created page with "Hito means 'one' in Japanese. Hito is a [[OISC|one-instruction]] [[#Computational class|Turing-complete]] esoteric programming language created by [[User:TheCanon2]]. Hito was designed because of a critical the way its sister language [[Ichi]] handles input. In [[Ichi#C > 1735334026 530498 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148948&oldid=148924 5* 03.k 5* (+187) 10:3 > 1735334714 523880 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hito14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148949&oldid=148947 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (+748) 10 < 1735335073 582071 :wryl!sid553797@user/meow/Wryl PRIVMSG #esolangs :Multisets suck. < 1735335611 938771 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1735335815 67547 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1735335854 582207 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hito14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148950&oldid=148949 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (+1686) 10Completed article > 1735336217 929990 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hito14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148951&oldid=148950 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (+36) 10categories > 1735336294 836786 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hito14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148952&oldid=148951 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (-36) 10 > 1735336338 494667 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ichi14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148953&oldid=148598 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (+62) 10 > 1735336447 136429 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OISC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148954&oldid=148800 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (+9) 10 > 1735337426 537014 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hito14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148955&oldid=148952 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (+7) 10 > 1735337446 17577 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Hito14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148956&oldid=148955 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (-9) 10grammar < 1735337597 351195 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1735337900 8704 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :huh < 1735337906 308618 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wryl: what is the issue? < 1735338032 489526 :wryl!sid553797@user/meow/Wryl PRIVMSG #esolangs :Access without a mechanism for constant time lookup necessitates search. < 1735338076 691263 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sounds like your issue is with a particular implementation of multisets as a data structure < 1735338088 91335 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and here I was thinking about the mathematical concept) < 1735338093 832208 :wryl!sid553797@user/meow/Wryl PRIVMSG #esolangs :That'd be it, yeah. < 1735338247 85377 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe you can roll your own starting with a hash map from items to an unsigned int < 1735338344 681800 :wryl!sid553797@user/meow/Wryl PRIVMSG #esolangs :The mapping gets murky once you get pattern matching involved. < 1735338378 322650 :wryl!sid553797@user/meow/Wryl PRIVMSG #esolangs :Tuple spaces are awkward as fuck. < 1735338398 35206 :wryl!sid553797@user/meow/Wryl PRIVMSG #esolangs :You bend some way or another, sacrifice memory for time, it's all the same. < 1735338471 926603 :wryl!sid553797@user/meow/Wryl PRIVMSG #esolangs :You get into SPARQL like pattern matching, you get into backtracking search. < 1735338489 262821 :wryl!sid553797@user/meow/Wryl PRIVMSG #esolangs :Complexity explodes. < 1735338608 977634 :wryl!sid553797@user/meow/Wryl PRIVMSG #esolangs :Forget doing it real-time. < 1735339855 701363 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1735342049 936404 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07StackSwap14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148957 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+1993) 10Created page with "'''StackSwap''' is an esolang by [[User:Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff]] designed around function calls. == Syntax == A StackSwap program is a series of function definiti > 1735342082 469707 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148958&oldid=148788 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+61) 10 < 1735342340 263729 :wryl!sid553797@user/meow/Wryl PRIVMSG #esolangs :We will never escape the trap of these sequential machines.