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< 1733185742 984117 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :hot take: a memory-safe compiler must maintain memory safety while applying optimizations. in fact, it must maintain memory safety up until writing the opcodes to disk.
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< 1733185791 50413 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :isn't that fun :D
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< 1733187323 318845 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: Another option is to look at this as an opportunity: what kinds of engineering difficulties arise when building a memory-safe compiler?
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< 1733187433 421691 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :or maybe we just have beef with the rust guys (yes, guys. it's always guys) and we want to make them look bad ^^
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< 1733250540 295811 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: so I think it's plausible to do memory safety verification on assembly language, by using, e.g., borrow-checking annotations and requiring a particular stack discipline
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< 1733250648 482603 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Java does, for example. Most JREs have a bytecode-verification step which looks like abstract interpretation, and the bytecode won't be instantiated if it e.g. has a guaranteed stack underflow.
< 1733250650 376209 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, the easiest way to get an end-to-end memory-safe toolchain would be to use one of the old-fashioned programming languages in which all arrays are declared at compile time, it's then easy to statically check that all memory addresses are inbounds if you want to
< 1733250689 36027 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: well it's easier in Java because it's GCed, so the only place you can have memory-safety UB is on the stack
< 1733250720 808116 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Whereas e.g. Python does not do this. I happen to have memorized the bytecode program "KABOOM"; convert this to a Python code object and the interpreter will crash -- portably!
< 1733250752 416813 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that said, I've been meaning to write an article about how garbage collection doesn't prevent memory usage errors as well as borrow-checking does; it prevents memory-safety UB specifically, but it doesn't prevent memory safety bugs, just lessens their consequences
< 1733250764 616630 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's easy to write the equivalent of a use-after-free in Java, it isn't UB but may read stale data
< 1733250771 961744 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Of course. If the question is about languages with explicit memory management, then I think that somebody is begging some part of the question: why would we expect memory-safety from such systems?
< 1733250810 350291 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: the word "expect" is ambiguous in English, both meanings fit your sentence and I agree with you in one case and disagree in the other
< 1733250816 454824 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :If Soni were talking only of Rust, for example, then I'd straight-up refute the premise: Rust is *not* memory-safe when we talk about the subset used in actual crates.
< 1733250839 760960 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: we'd just type-annotate the stack ngl
< 1733250865 640970 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, type-annotating the stack and registers is a good example of the sort of thing you can do to make asm more type-safe
< 1733250869 174239 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Like, in the Latin sense? I agree that we must somehow produce memory-safety by writing a small amount of hand-engineered hand-proven assembly. I usually disagree with the idea that it should be more than a page or two of code per low-level bootstrapping step.
< 1733250889 398488 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: we mean instead of "requiring a particular stack discipline"
< 1733250904 562554 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. WebAssembly uses typed stacks as part of its memory-safety strategy.
< 1733250913 958373 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: you have to give some semantics to the stack(s) in order to make function calls compose correctly
< 1733250931 842888 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: you just have to type the stack pointer
< 1733250957 440451 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or require every function to consume the entire stack and replace it with an entirely new stack. WebAssembly, but also type systems of Joy and descendants.
< 1733250957 779809 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: you are implicitly assuming a stack discipline there by assuming that the stack pointer points to the top of the stack
< 1733250975 218171 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in generalised asm, this isn't a given, although people normally do write like that
< 1733250986 252939 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Or forbid pointers~
< 1733250988 797526 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or at least, have the top of the stack always at a known offset from the stack poitner
< 1733250993 615799 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: not at all, if anything, you're probably assuming something that we aren't
< 1733251041 508323 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: so the problem is, say we're writing a function that's meant to run in a type-safe way – some of the existing memory will be free for the function to use for its own purposes, some of it can only be changed in certain ways (or not at all) without violating memory safety
< 1733251051 441184 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, *all* bytecodes I've mentioned so far are lacking in pointers. WebAssembly knows what arrays and function refs are, but not pointers in general. Java only has object refs on the stack. Python doesn't have pointers, period.
< 1733251055 538077 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and some of it can't usefully be read because you can't make sufficient assumptions about what it holds
< 1733251057 894318 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes, that's all encoded in global typestate
< 1733251077 729546 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :which isn't even global at all, but it relates to global state
< 1733251108 434902 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a stack discipline is a simple way to solve this problem, you say "on entry to the function, it can touch all memory below SP and above the stack guard page, but can't touch memory above SP unless given a pointer to it"
< 1733251125 394455 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you don't have a stack discpline you need some other solution
< 1733251128 971201 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes, you encode that in a type
< 1733251138 748877 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :you encode that whole phrase in a type
< 1733251151 971083 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, this might be a type but I am not convinced
< 1733251155 108709 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is called your function's "world"
< 1733251174 974012 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :A stack discipline is effectively a FORTH, via Greenspun's Tenth Law. It's going to generate a DSL which we might as well prefer instead of machine code.
< 1733251197 196589 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Similarly, a global typestate which is isolated to a single struct is effectively a Self-style Smalltalk, again via Greenspun.
< 1733251204 246090 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :the world is also part of the function's type, so in theory the assembler would automatically fail stack overflows
< 1733251212 439895 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: so my thoughts on this is that memory-safe languages can't have raw pointers, but can have references which are, in effect, raw pointers together with rules for what you can do with them
< 1733251239 589132 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'd say "those who didn't read the VPRI or STEPS reports" paraphrasing Santayana, but STEPS didn't really produce many artifacts for us to study. They didn't have much to say about the boot process; instead, their languages do stuff like graphics.
< 1733251242 999418 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or, well, you can have raw pointers as long as you never read or write through them, but that isn't very useful
< 1733251295 896930 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: we think having an escape hatch is necessary tho
< 1733251309 484535 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :for real-world use at least
< 1733251315 827191 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am not sure a "generalised" escape hatch is necessary
< 1733251343 660543 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that you do often need a number of special cases that don't easily fit into the rest of the language, but am not sure why you would need more than a finite number of them
< 1733251403 753658 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :we just think not having to think about all possible abstractions and let someone else build them is fine
< 1733251413 308436 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, we're supposed to be streaming
< 1733251419 17315 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Sure. There's a big general meta-statement that an actor/object/etc. is fundamentally a fat pointer of script/code/class and locals/vars/fields. Often, we want that first pointer to be an executable function pointer, and the second to point to a struct.
< 1733251419 56235 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :>.<
< 1733251470 911124 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: well, objects in the Java or Rust sense usually have multiple code-address-like entry points
< 1733251472 324901 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Smalltalk had a bunch of functionality around this. It could let one object become another object, it could change the class of an object, etc. Some of this infected other languages, like C++'s reinterpret_cast<>.
< 1733251528 888626 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Sure. Methods can be compiled down in a lot of ways, though. It turns out to be useful to let the script have the Strategy Pattern; deliver a message to the script, and let the script do its own dispatch. Anything fancier can be figured out in JIT.
< 1733251540 514419 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Perl allows you to change the class of an object at runtime, but it works differently from C++
< 1733251587 830690 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: hmm, the systems programmer in me dislikes that approach, basically because it forces you to serialise the message
< 1733251610 868551 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: This might be the clearest indication that I grew up in the object-oriented world~
< 1733251622 740696 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess I dislike having concrete representations of things unless there's a really good reason
< 1733251649 533647 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :one of the things I dislike most about Rust is that the language effectively forces &T to be represented as a pointer to some actual T in memory
< 1733251676 201707 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :whereas most uses of &T don't care about that and aren't conceptually thinking about the reference like that at all
< 1733251703 414973 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :We came up with a good reason in Monte: it lets us adopt the same extremely powerful named-args convention as Ruby and Python, while still guaranteeing E's fancy distributed semantics work for objects that generically forward messages.
< 1733251713 52506 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I suspect that you could get fairly large savings by, say, optimising an &u32 into a u32 with the same value as the target
< 1733251734 704825 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :We also didn't care about the widths of ints, so it's fair to say that we didn't care about systems-programming goals.
< 1733251770 262317 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right – I see named arguments as sugar, in that they can easily be compiled into positional arguments if you can see both the callsite and the definition
< 1733251784 616293 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they are convenient for the programmer but don't need to exist in the compiled program
< 1733251886 75393 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :on the subject of int widths, I have been meaning to write a long rant about that
< 1733251896 91146 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Makes sense. For distributed systems, we must assume that we get a uniform wrapper over an opaque blob of data. So we must transmit everything in the wrapper, and can't assume anything not in the wrapper.
< 1733251907 25492 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in most languages (that have finite-width ints), it is unreasonably hard to write, say, a program that averages two integers
< 1733251965 539843 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Rust is considering adding a builtin for that to its standard library, because it's hard to write correctly and almost impossible to write efficiently in a platform-independent way
< 1733251996 210374 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :E's wrapper is a tuple (verb :str, args :list[ref]). Monte's wrapper, we argue, is the much nicer tuple (verb :str, args :list[ref], kwargs :map[str, ref]). In both cases, that's *all* that the receiver knows, and anything else must be done very carefully.
< 1733252039 842807 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I had a job working on distributed systems, but we did it a bit differently – every system involved in the computation had the same compiled codebase available, and they would assume that the same code existed on every node
< 1733252072 28944 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so messages didn't have to be generically understandable, you could just send blobs to objects on other systems in a way that they would understand
< 1733252073 354596 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, a common form of cope. Painful.
< 1733252107 928383 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I remember watching as a child when a paperless office upgraded from one version of Microsoft Office to another, back when Office loaded documents via mmap.
< 1733252119 414701 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the only generic component needed was a sort of dispatcher/multiplex because you don't want every object to open its own network port to listen to messages
< 1733252155 943905 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oof. And so you end up with an object server, even if you didn't want to write one.
< 1733252172 851741 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, you need one anyway
< 1733252187 478894 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or, hmm, I should backtrack a bit
< 1733252197 758960 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Perl allows you to change the class of an object at runtime," => so does python, as long as their representation is compatible, which is the easiest to get if they are subclasses of a common class and neither adds more data over what that common class has. I think python inherited that from smalltalk, but I'm not entirely sure.
< 1733252217 12855 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Right. Object servers, event loops, etc. are required, so they should be built-in. Erlang is a great demonstration of how this can turn into real high-reliability distributed-systems toolkits.
< 1733252219 363327 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the entire purpose of the project was to split up existing programs across multiple nodes, but it was still intended to act as a single program with a single entry point
< 1733252245 525816 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: well Perl doesn't even care if the representation is compatible :-)
< 1733252273 463612 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"you can have raw pointers as long as you never read or write through them, but that isn't very useful" => rust does exactly that, and it is helpful, but that's because it allows you to read/write them if you assume the responsibility for avoiding UB which includes keeping memory safety
< 1733252276 164811 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it just trusts that the programmer knows what they are doing and/or will change the representation to match
< 1733252284 808389 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Python 3's default class is the new-style object class with inferred slots, and there's no tools for making that work nicely. Python 2's default class did allow that, though; objects were a fat pointer to their class and their dict of locals. Ruby still does it that way IIUC.
< 1733252306 559627 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'd be astonished if Ruby didn't still do it that way, given the sort of language it is
< 1733252356 294688 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Python changed because PyPy adopted Smalltalk's "maps" (awful name!) for computing optimized class layouts with inheritance. RPython implementations of SOM and Monte do it too.
< 1733252392 587177 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So all of a sudden CPython used a lot more memory than PyPy, and that was politically unacceptable. Ergo, new class layouts that do about half of what PyPy does, get the memory usage down, and make Microsoft and Google happy.
< 1733252421 608355 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the "office loading documents via mmap" is different because the .doc format is ostensibly intended for long-term storage, whereas most people don't even attempt to allow programs to continue running on a new codebase if the codebase has changed more than trivially
< 1733252460 389375 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Any message put onto the network is in long-term storage.
< 1733252472 663726 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Time is an illusion, wall-clock time doubly so.
< 1733252497 178252 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not necessarily? if you are using rendevouz-style messaging then the time that the message spends in transit effectively doesn't exist from the program's point of view
< 1733252511 784162 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"I suspect that you could get fairly large savings by, say, optimising an &u32 into a u32 with the same value as the target" => right, there was a proposal to add such a thing to C++, as in a new type that you use as a function parameter and it's either a const reference or a copy of the value and the compiler decides which one it is. rust doesn't have that, but its rules about references are strict 
< 1733252517 854889 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :enough that a compiler can reasonably do such an optimization when you pass a function argument by reference and the compiler knows that it's a specific small sized type.
< 1733252544 701145 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's OK to say "if this message is late arriving, then the 'thread' will just pause until it arrives" ('thread' in quotes because I'm referring to a chain of code-causing-each-other-to-run that might not correspond to an actual program or OS-level thread)
< 1733252548 783589 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's what I'm saying: the program's concept of time is constructed from what the OS and I/O tell it.
< 1733252575 217770 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: but what I am saying is that from the program's point of view, this is not long-term storage and is not in fact a form of storage at all
< 1733252580 238388 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's the equivalent of a pre-empted thread
< 1733252643 528041 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: so its rules about references are *almost* strict enough, but it doesn't prevent a function you call doing "immutable_ref as *const u32"
< 1733252667 420885 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: It's I/O. Programs don't know what I/O is hooked up to.
< 1733252673 944870 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the fact that functions can do that and compare the results means that it needs to track the identity of every u32 reference, even though programs basically never care
< 1733252682 790084 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: it isn't I/O from the point of view of the program! only from the point of view of the runtime
< 1733252695 178725 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Rust is considering adding a builtin for [averaging two integers] because it's hard to write correctly and almost impossible to write efficiently in a platform-independent way" => it's not *that* impossible to write efficiently in a platform-independent way, I think there are two portable magic formulas for it, but nevertheless it's easy to mess it up so it makes sense as a library function, and 
< 1733252701 187184 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :further there's an SSE instruction that averages two integers so the compiler can sometimes optimize to that and so a compiler builtin makes sense too. (of course this is mostly llvm's business, but llvm is developed partly to support rustc.)
< 1733252702 727122 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the program need not know whether its messages are being handled locally or over the network
< 1733252714 126295 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh. Oh noes.
< 1733252736 954557 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, so yes, but only because the program should be written so that its messages are *always* over a network.
< 1733252755 353280 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my complaint isn't that attract is annoying to implement, but that other operations are annoying to implement based on just attract and repel (with no explicitly copy, you have to eg. loop attract for that)
< 1733252758 489804 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, it should be written so that it doesn't know or care whether the messages are over a network
< 1733252826 124584 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: In E, a program knows whether its refs are "near" or "far". Near refs can be deconstructed and treated as data. Far refs can only be targets of messages, returning promises or other far refs.
< 1733252827 596735 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the whole purpose of what we were working on was to make the multiple networked nodes act as though they were a single computer with additonal cores
< 1733252848 18328 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure. But that doesn't work.
< 1733252868 39168 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: right, that is a sensible optimisation – what we were doing treated everything as near refs, potentially requiring a network round trip to deconstruct
< 1733252891 395857 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, Beowulf'ing it was a meme before I was born. The RPC debates were when I was a child. The question of NUMA has been answered: NUMA can't be substituted for SMP.
< 1733252895 387352 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although if there was a small enough amount of data involved, we just sent a copy pre-emptively in case it needed deconstruction
< 1733252920 999848 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can only get away with this in a GC'ed language, otherwise you get memory lieaks
< 1733252959 48206 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is quite possible/probable that this would have hit either an insurmountable semantic barrier or an insurmountable performance barrier – I lost confidence in the project towards the end and left that job
< 1733252960 810190 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, in *any* language, there's the question of cyclic GC where the cycle extends across the network. This was one of E's big contributions, and most systems still don't implement it because it's such a PITA.
< 1733252993 446663 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, I think our GC didn't implement that, we were probably planning to implement it at some point when we figured out how
< 1733253027 915653 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The laws are strong when it comes to pulling apart a monolith. Amdahl's Law and Conway's Law suggest that the first step is to convert the monolith to a job server and farm out the most compute-intensive tasks to a fleet of identical workers.
< 1733253068 969222 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User
< 1733253095 592467 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my guess is that the goal of the project wasn't to find something that worked "efficiently" – just faster than on a single computer, with no manual intervention
< 1733253120 210959 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Conway's Law further suggests that a linguafranca is required in order to make this scale, like gRPC at Google, Thrift at Facebook, or the pile of crappy JSON-over-HTTP APIs that AWS and other cloud vendors offer.
< 1733253167 317370 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, yeah, management rarely knows the laws. Frustrating but common. I can't think of a job where I haven't had to explain the Fallacies of Distributed Computing to management.
< 1733253219 797918 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think you may be wrong about what Conway's Law suggests in general, though: if you are running a scheme where (semantically) anything can run on any node with a common code base, and the only difference between locations is efficiency / NUMA
< 1733253252 672541 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then that doesn't necessarily imply that a lingua franca exists, just that there is some way to communicate messages between nodes that looks like it was running on a single node
< 1733253282 131874 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if the structure is "anything can be anywhere, putting it in the right place is an optimisation decision" then there is no structure to mirror
< 1733253306 835724 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :In this case, Conway's Law is that if two nodes communicate with each other, then the designers of the software on those nodes communicated with each other. A linguafranca gives those designers a common language to facilitate their designs.
< 1733253327 463182 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: right but we had the same software on every node, because it was intended to act like a single computer running a single piece of software
< 1733253362 879956 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Otherwise you end up with e.g. one designer trying their best to imagine what it must be like to be that other designer and guessing their intent. Incorrect API use, unstated invariants or requirements around usage, etc.
< 1733253362 961661 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you wanted to change it, you would exit the process and start a new one (copying its code everywhere in between), just like you would do ona single computer
< 1733253394 834195 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: "functions can [take the address of a reference] and compare the results" => I see! that makes sense and may be unfortunate. it means if your function reborrows its parameter (or a field in it) to an opaque function then it can't use a copied/moved version of the value, nor pass the value in a register, because the function might need to compare its address.
< 1733253427 974246 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: By an easy handwave, there must have been times when at least two nodes differed in the version of software that they ran. At scale, that turns into downtime.
< 1733253449 586270 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So, at scale, distributed systems usually are designed to gracefully accept messages from different versions.
< 1733253460 572420 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs : "Rust is considering adding a builtin for [averaging two integers] because it's hard to write correctly and almost impossible to write efficiently in a platform-independent way" => it's not *that* impossible to write efficiently in a platform-independent way, I think there are two portable magic formulas for it ← so (with unsigned ints) you can do (a >> 1) + (b >> 1) + (a & b & 1) but that doesn't go near to the optimal code on x86_64
< 1733253503 894953 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"in *any* language, there's the question of cyclic GC where the cycle extends across the network." => how does Windows COM handle that incidentally? it has transparent remote objects (between processes) doesn't it?
< 1733253511 872437 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: yes, in this model the downtime becomes startup latency, because some time is needed to copy the codebase onto every node after restarting the program
< 1733253514 425535 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe it only does reference counting?
< 1733253541 470285 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooh, actually I think our GC *did* handle cycles – if there was a potential cycle it tried to migrate all the objects onto the same node so that that node could detect the cycle and free them
< 1733253555 91818 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :err, a potential unreferenced cycle, that is
< 1733253580 33044 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the way you do it is, if a node contains an object with no inbound local references, it moves the object to a node that does have a reference to it
< 1733253593 403292 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Sure. A cool trick from the E world is to separate the object server from the user-level codebase, so that only a small slug of user code has to be copied. In Monte, we can do this incrementally on a per-module basis, although I never wrote a compiler that took serious advantage of it.
< 1733253599 351424 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(or if it contains a cycle with no inbound references from otuside the cycle)
< 1733253640 444270 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: hmm, I wonder if COM is able to create a reference cycle
< 1733253644 38173 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably it is
< 1733253659 396061 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but there are some languages where you can't modify things while they have inbound references, those languages are unable to create cycles
< 1733253669 802707 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But e.g. I had a single object server doing lots of different raytracing jobs, with each job specified as a big generated Monte AST. When the object server received a request to draw a pixel, it also got a ref to that AST, and it could cache compilations for ASTs already seen before.
< 1733253686 483648 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :as a simple example, you can't create a reference cycle in Rust without using unsafe code or something that contains an UnsafeCell, so a hypothetical "cell-free Rust" couldn't have reference cycles
< 1733253744 982277 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This is roughly how production RenderMan works, although the scene isn't executable in their case. But because a film contains so many different scenes, the scheduler has to have some awareness that a worker still "has the scene in memory" so to speak.
< 1733253752 752239 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"tried to migrate all the objects onto the same node so that that node could detect the cycle and free them" => aren't there cases when that rule causes to migrate everything to the same computer, which causes it to run out of memory or at least catastrophically degrades performance?
< 1733253864 34170 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: yes, that case happens if the program is effectively single-threaded, you can work around the problem by creating extra "GC roots" that are pinned in place
< 1733253875 777501 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"if COM is able to create a reference cycle" => it can at least represent two objects that reference each other, but that's with two objects within the same process and the server probably already knows how to clean them up, eg. either one of the references behaves as a weak reference, or one of the objects is guaranteed to have a longer lifetime than the COM client referencing them
< 1733253891 889966 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Distributed GC can't progress that way. It looks like distributed reference counting; when an exported object isn't referred to locally, then its server can notify everybody else that the object wants to be GC'd.
< 1733253936 292136 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Only at that point, if the object is safe and consenting to copy, can it possibly be transferred to other servers.
< 1733253981 498905 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think we were able to move the object elsewhere even if it did have local references, we would replace the local references with a shim object that would do the network accesses
< 1733253989 814367 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or quoting http://erights.org/elib/distrib/captp/dagc.html "Only the side that has the arrowtail can find out (by finalization from his local intra-vat garbage collector) that there is no longer any local interest in using the tail of that reference. This does not necessarily mean it's safe to drop the reference!"
< 1733254002 286979 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :otherwise that would violate the "anything can be anywhere" principle
< 1733254021 455938 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :obviously, doing that would probably be bad for performance unless the other node needed it much more
< 1733254049 939342 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or the reference from the COM client to the object acts like a weak reference, so the object can be destroyed while the client has a reference to it and most ways to try to use that object fails afterwards though in a safe way
< 1733254052 298855 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe that was only a planned feature, rather than implemented
< 1733254088 741970 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Some things are closely held. An object with the capability for local I/O can always export methods that invoke that capability, but they can't allow it to be copied to another machine/process/etc. In Capn Proto, there's two kinds of opaque refs: pointers to blobs, and refs to capabilities.
< 1733254100 423636 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: so I have realised that weak references are useful even in non-GCed languages, and in general, many programs semantically want to be able to free an object while it still has inbound references
< 1733254150 829359 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: you can always copy something that's semantically identical to the object, though (and that does I/O on the original machine via forwarding the requests over the network)
< 1733254160 908502 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes. it's just complicated because there are multiple variants of weak reference.
< 1733254177 128331 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :obviously the implementation will be different, but the caller/message-sender doesn't need to know the details
< 1733254206 904033 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :NetHack is a good example, semantically you can destroy an object or kill a monster while parts of memory still refer to it
< 1733254213 198313 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: So, in cap theory, we say that that's *not* a copy. It's a "transparent forwarder", borrowing Smalltalk's phrasing. The weakness or ability to cut off forwarding makes it "revokable", in cap theory.
< 1733254244 343676 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: so you work around this by having the forwarders be the only thing that exist from the program's point of view
< 1733254246 818572 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :By saying this, we can start to imagine isolation as a provable property of objects: if an object holds something closely, then the only way to inspect that thing is via consent.
< 1733254270 431493 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: right, M:tG even more so
< 1733254274 406566 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or, well, you say that there is no way from within the program to determine whether something is a forwarder or not
< 1733254285 301030 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: M:tG isn't a computer program, but yes
< 1733254317 785257 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a program like Arena needs weak references to handle cases where an object refers to something that has changed zone and thus is considered a new object
< 1733254326 338697 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Sure! The Joule language works like this. There's an obvious cost to not being able to treat objects as near refs; we need to indirect through the heap just to do local ALU ops. Haskell has the same problem for a different reason; lazy threading through the heap for strict ALU ops.
< 1733254364 797245 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :In both cases, it seems like it's a PITA to ask users to guess at whether a Sufficiently Smart Compiler will correctly guess that everything is strict/near/etc. So let's just give users the distinction and make them pick up the pieces.
< 1733254388 468887 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: the history of Java is informative here – even non-distributed Java treated everything other than primitives as objects until recently
< 1733254423 74711 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but ended up adding what are in effect non-virtual objects (in C++ terminology) in order to avoid that performance pitfall
< 1733254460 147857 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: We could argue that, starting with Self, the forwarders were the only thing that an object could access. Those forwarders just happen to look like fat pointers from the implementation's POV. And that's kind of the history of the modern everything-is-an-object approach.
< 1733254500 83729 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I suppose that Java made this choice for performance when compared to Self? That's normally the justification for this sort of difference.
< 1733254514 102747 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right – I think everything-is-an-object is usually a good mental model for programmers to deal with, even if it is occasionally very difficult for implementations to implement efficiently
< 1733254551 254268 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just look at Python's integers, for example – they can transparently convert to bignums to avoid arithmetic overflow, and as a result Python is one of the only widely used languages where programmers don't have to worry about overflow at all
< 1733254571 766403 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Meta-tracing was the key insight, and even among JIT pros it's a controversial one. Without meta-tracing, JIT can only start and end on user-chosen boundaries like functions or methods.
< 1733254609 399659 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But meta-tracing means that the JIT starts on compiler-engineer-chosen boundaries, like interpreter-level loops.
< 1733254641 119080 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, JIT works well in an everything-is-an-object world, where the exact type of the objects isn't known (only a superclass or set of interfaces), because the objects will in practice usually have the same type but that is hard to prove
< 1733254675 767006 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and a JIT allows you to make optimisations that would be unsound in rare circumstances, by checking to see if the conditions for soundness hold, and reversing the optimisation when they dont'
< 1733254679 821377 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah
< 1733254732 114129 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :AOT compilers can use similar optimisations sometimes
< 1733254760 119279 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. clang/LLVM will assume an object always has the same type if only one type exists in the compilation that fits the superclass/interfaces you specified
< 1733254772 954539 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's all pre-meta-tracing JIT. In particular, deoptimization should never happen; at worst, if an invariant fails, the JIT should just toss out all of the machine code tagged with that invariant.
< 1733254786 978825 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: that's a form of deoptimization, isn't it?
< 1733254791 999987 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(also what I was referring to)
< 1733254864 424778 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Usually folks are referring to the nasty process of generating a new interpreter state, copying the JIT's variables into that state, and restarting the interpreter in the middle of user-level code.
< 1733254865 424478 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: anyway, the best way to average two unsigned integers in x86_64 asm is to add them with the add instruction, then rcr the result
< 1733254883 758027 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I haven't figured out how to get compilers to ever generate an rcr without using an intrinsic for the purpose
< 1733254917 778531 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: hmm, now I'm imagining AOT-compiled code with an injected fastpath
< 1733254939 377244 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :compile X into if (a holds) { X assuming a; } else { general implementation of X; }
< 1733254946 668385 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But meta-tracing offers a different path. At compile time, generate multiple copies of the interpreter: one for normal interp, one for tracing, one for running JIT code, etc. Then, at each compiler-level "merge point", make a universal decision about which interp to use next.
< 1733254956 584947 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have noticed gcc doing this on occasion, but am not sure what heuristics it uses
< 1733254985 951640 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Deoptimization is now merely when a guard in JIT code jumps to the normal interp.
< 1733255030 995298 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I understand why JITs have interpreters, but in a way it feels conceptually wrong to me
< 1733255054 995500 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: you can also try to do such optimizations without JIT, in something like python, but it gets ugly. you hope that the object will be of the same concrete type every time, and so for method calls in the code you try to cache the specific method to call. this gets ugly because any code could change the class so that the method points to a different function, so you need some very ugly 
< 1733255061 147627 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :representation, but it can be done. and it's especially worth for those integers that you mentioned and floats, because there you don't just gain on faster method calls, but you can avoid allocating an actual object for a float or int temporary if you guess its type correctly and it doesn't overflow a fixed sized integer.
< 1733255076 546790 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if part of program, under a set of assumptions, spends a long time running, then it is correct to compile it and run the compiled version; if it doesn't, performance isn't important so the time spent compiling it isn't a big cost
< 1733255112 736656 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"add them with the add instruction, then rcr the result" => ah, so you want not only a portable method but one that's the most efficient. that makes sense.
< 1733255115 237198 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: well, there's the OCaml approach where everything is a disjoint union of integer and pointer
< 1733255152 259659 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if it's of a type that can't be represented as an integer, it has to always be stored as a pointer, and the other disjoint union option isn't use
< 1733255153 723946 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* used
< 1733255160 17073 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(this is why OCaml has 31-bit integers)
< 1733255167 358601 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: It's for uniformity. In a meta-tracing JIT, the interps are running compiled versions of interpreters for user-level languages; the JIT isn't tracing Python ops, but RPython ops.
< 1733255190 2376 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: can you cast both to a larger size integer, add them, shift right, and then cast down to the original size? there's somethign similar for multiplications that compilers specifically look for and optimize
< 1733255216 204791 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: if there is a larger-sized integer, yes, but I think compilers will compile using larger-sized operations
< 1733255227 414640 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :let me load up godbolt and check for the 64→128 case
< 1733255257 421669 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"everything is a disjoint union of integer and pointer" => right, ruby 1.8 does something similar to that (only there are a few more possibilities besides those two for reasons that I don't understand)
< 1733255273 828685 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that specifically doesn't work for python floats
< 1733255302 339401 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think scheme is designed to possibly work with those sorts of integers too
< 1733255303 587447 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So the "part of program" that "spends a long time running" is something like a bytecode dispatch loop, and the "set of assumptions" is when the addresses for the bytecodes are repeated. This is why the JIT needs merge points: it needs hints that a user-level loop is happening.
< 1733255317 973078 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: https://godbolt.org/z/77vK8vv7r
< 1733255364 664649 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's a fun algorithm, but it isn't the RCR algorithm, and in fact doesn't use the carry bit at all
< 1733255378 264787 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it is doing a 128-bit addition but has cancelled out a left-shift and a right-shift
< 1733255404 635096 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: oh, I see, you are thinking about languages like Python that are inherently interpreted
< 1733255434 941521 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :CHICKEN Scheme is another good example of this; https://www.more-magic.net/posts/internals-data-representation.html for more on that. Objective-C is another good example, particularly packing selectors.
< 1733255448 954965 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or, well, AoT python exists but your JIT is trying to optimise an interpreter rather than trying to optimise the interpreted program
< 1733255457 864282 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: it's strange that you write it with i128 instead of u128, because then the division rounds towards zero and you have to notice that the dividend is nonnegative so that doesn't matter
< 1733255478 586324 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: it was a thinko but doesn't matter, LLVM is very good at noticing that sort of thing
< 1733255487 874859 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Right. Most JITs do the first Futamura projection. Our JIT goes one higher.
< 1733255501 342500 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :let me look up what the blue book says
< 1733255513 137431 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I tried with u128 and get the same result
< 1733255526 365513 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah
< 1733255554 417713 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also tried with u<65> but apparently it hasn't been implemented yet, not even on nightly
< 1733255576 456306 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it probably wouldn't be special-case implemented as a register plus a flag, even if it conceptually would be
< 1733255581 493171 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* conceptually should be
< 1733255607 72442 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think zig implements that, you could try with a zig compiler
< 1733255625 299176 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :out of interest, what does zig use for its code generation / backend?
< 1733255676 771558 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it uses llvm too, but I'm not quite sure. it bundles a clang so there is at least an llvm somewhere in there.
< 1733255726 499812 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am worried about how LLVM-dependent the world is getting, LLVM seems inherently somewhat unsound to me
< 1733255757 955019 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there was a miscompilation bug semi-recently that was caused by C++ autogenerating an == implementation for a type that didn't reflect actual equality for objects of that type, and nobody had noticed until the bug report
< 1733255764 781620 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, so the blue book chapter 2-5 says you can use { (a & b) + ((a ^ b) >> 1) } for that, and then elaborates on what to do if you want to round up or your inputs are signed
< 1733255786 544792 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right, that's the algorithm that LLVM picked
< 1733255816 325979 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, my more global point is – I think arithmetic operations in programming languages should round/truncate/wrap only where the programmer says they should, not at points determined by the language
< 1733255835 326938 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should be able to write, say, [ (a + b) / 2 ] and get a correct averaging routine even though the intermediate values can be outside the range of the data type
< 1733255849 667410 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the square brackets show where rounding/truncation/wrapping is allowed
< 1733255863 190142 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this would also be very useful with floats, e.g. [ a * b + c ] for a fused multiply-add
< 1733255898 53159 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that would be rather hard to implement in general and efficiently
< 1733255903 274817 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(at present, (a * b) + c means [ [ a * b ] + c ] in most programming languages – this can't be compiled into a fused multiply-add without fast-math because the result is different)
< 1733255920 904851 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :obviously we already have some special cases like (a*b+c) optimized to a fused multiply-add if you allow it
< 1733255940 347994 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: quite possibly, but I don't care – it beats programs producing incorrect results
< 1733255955 960426 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you could perhaps generate a compile error if the compiler can't find an efficient implementation
< 1733255965 953817 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the (a+b)/2 *should* work if you upcast to a one larger integer type, even if you showed that llvm doesn't optimize it correctly, it could
< 1733255966 952262 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :asking the programmer to add additional rounding/wrapping points
< 1733255980 57219 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm 
< 1733255986 635841 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :upcasting to a larger type should work for pretty much any integer example of this
< 1733256002 788617 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :except where exponentials/shifts are involved (OK, it technically works even then, but the type would be too large)
< 1733256027 573138 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :[ a << b ] is fun, it unambiguously returns 0 if b is larger than the width of a
< 1733256055 845942 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(whereas a << b in C is UB in that case and often in practice returns a shifted a lesser distance)
< 1733256191 366072 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, oh no, current Rust compiles a << b into a shl instruction in release mode
< 1733256206 954845 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: the problem is that there are some common cases where getting a guaranteed correctly rounded result is actually very hard and very often it's fine to get a result that might have a small error, this includes converting a machine float to decimal (for formatting it as a decimal string usually) or decimal to machine float (for scanning a decimal string usually) as well as floating-point exp, log, 
< 1733256213 249521 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sin, cos, tan, atan, asin, acos
< 1733256228 231786 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that has to be wrong, doesn't it? shl takes the bottom 5 significant bits of b, whereas it should be wrapping mod the width of a
< 1733256236 317604 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :according to the defined semantics of release-mode arithmetic
< 1733256250 983895 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and so the programmer needs a way to specify whether he wants the definitely exact solution, or he wants a solution that may sometimes be off by a little bit, or even something worse
< 1733256263 614961 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: well, those are function calls, and those inherently round because they're returning a result of a concrete type
< 1733256310 771612 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think b_jonas is referring to the Table-maker's Dilemma. Rounding transcendental functions correctly is somewhere between exponential and undecidable IIRC.
< 1733256366 754365 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"[ a << b ] is fun, it unambiguously returns 0 if b is larger than the width of a" => it's not that simple! the problem is that x86 has multiple shift instructions, and if you try to shift an u64 by 64 bits, some of them return zero and some treat it as a shift by 0, and because of this it does make sense for C to have a << operator that doesn't guarantee what result you get for ((uint64_t)1)<<64, even 
< 1733256372 843630 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if as a programmer sometimes you would like a shift that always gives 0 for this
< 1733256395 327630 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION really should go run errands

< 1733256473 819900 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I believe for decimal conversion, exp, log, sin, cos, tan it happens to be decidable, and even decidable in a time limit, but the time limit is something like a polynomial of the maximum exponent of the float, which can sometimes be too big in practice
< 1733256517 625149 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: so Rust currently seems to be compiling << with unspecified overflow behaviour, when in release mode (it does correctly panic in debug mode)
< 1733256554 138463 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this seems like a bug in Rust? LLVM is assuming C-like overflow behaviour even though Rust doesn't use that
< 1733256585 34835 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for sin, cos, atan this is because a nonzero machine float can't get closer to a multiple of pi than something on the order of magnitude of the smallest floating point number, and there's a similar reason for decimal conversion
< 1733256631 194820 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, hmm, it seems intentional, the LLVM IR generated by Rust is masking off the bottom five bits of the shift and then doing the shift
< 1733256679 571277 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right, println!("{}", 1u16 << black_box(17)); prints 2
< 1733256729 875137 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: it shouldn't matter, but out of curiosity, what type is the 17 there?
< 1733256738 822358 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Oh no, now I'm remembering that one cringe idea I had a while ago for letting trigonometric functions be fuzzy to avoid precision issues.
< 1733256749 855907 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: u32 I think, although I keep getting confused about the type of the right hand side of shift operations
< 1733256762 350344 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe i32
< 1733256770 772664 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do remember that it's something that's too large
< 1733256788 107464 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://langdev.stackexchange.com/q/3284 this one. Very funny, even if most folks didn't actually understand why I'd want this.
< 1733256788 222578 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm guessing i32 but I'm not sure
< 1733256797 853025 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I really need lunch now. Peace.
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< 1733256904 690562 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have probably already linked from #esolangs to both of these about floating-point but just in case: https://www.exploringbinary.com/ a blog mostly about floating point to or from decimal conversions, I had known those were hard but reading the blog convinced me that they are *even harder* than I had thought; and http://sleef.org/ for transcendental functions on machine floats
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< 1733257246 520214 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I think the situation is more that a) they're hard to do efficiently and b) people keep forgetting about how weird floats are when implementing them
< 1733257289 343162 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there should be a fairly simple correct implementation that entirely uses integer arithmetic and uses a big array to keep track of all the accumulated digits
< 1733257295 418582 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it'd be slow
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< 1733257689 350747 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :whoa! so the intel x86 arch manual says that SHLD with 16-bit operands gives an undefined result value and flags if the shift count unsigned modulo 32 is greater than 16, but a shift by exactly 16 is fine and will shift by 16 bits; but a SHLD with 32-bit operands is never undefined and a shift count of 32 shifts by 0 bits, so the two behave in an entirely different manner. I didn't know this
< 1733257723 843405 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes, that's a fine summary
< 1733257942 983142 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it also says that for the ordinary SAL instructions with 8 or 16 or 32 bit sized arguments, the shift count is modulo 32, except that before 286 it was IIUC modulo 256 instead. that is funny because I think SHLD was added by 386, not 286 (since it has a prefix, and 286, so the reason for the change is not the new SHLD instruction but just different optimizations
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< 1733258740 707933 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, this is getting even more hilarious. for the SSE2 shift instructions PSLLDW/PSLLD/PSLLQ, which shift each 16-bit, 32-bit, or 64-bit part of an XMM/YMM/ZMM vector, the shift count is an unsigned 64-bit integer that comes from either an XMM register or memory, which means there's an instruction that rotates part of a 256-bit YMM register, reads a 128 bits shift count operand from memory, throws away 
< 1733258746 717669 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the top 64 bits of that operand, then checks the middle 60/59/58 bits and if they aren't all zero it shifts zeros into every bit of the result. let me see what the later vector shift instruction does too.
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< 1733258788 559431 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I hadn't known that AVX has an instruction with two differently sized vector operands
< 1733258807 910121 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/AVX/AVX2/
< 1733259173 582888 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so in the AVX2 instruction VPSLLV[WDQ] the shift counts are the same size as the shifted pieces, 16-bit in VPSLLVW, 32-bit in VPSLLVD, VPSLLVQ, and in all cases the shift count is unsigned and if it's too big the result is zero; but for the AVX512 instructions VPSHLD[WDQ] and VPSHLDV[WDQ] the shift count is modulo 16, 32, 64 respectively when they operate on 16, 32, 64 bit chunks
< 1733259223 334790 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow
< 1733259235 724464 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I didn't know x86 got this so complicated
< 1733259262 853208 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :shifts are inherently complicated because the two operands are basically in different units (the shift count is on a log scale compared to the value being shifted)
< 1733259269 142224 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah
< 1733259324 639009 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I can understand that more than one of the wrapping behavior can be convenient (as a low-level programmer) in different circumstances
< 1733259461 383951 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think most of my programs that shift naturally never have an overflowing shift, and the few that do would want the result to be 0
< 1733259478 586642 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and that wrapping the shift count is bascially only done because it is the easiest to implement in hardware (you just ignore some of the wires)
< 1733259521 421517 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's a reason that 32 bit x86 wraps the shift count mod 32 even if it's shifting something smaller than 32 bits
< 1733259536 261484 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :because changing the number of wires you ignored would be less efficient than ignoring a constant number
< 1733259552 63229 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :did you never try to use single shifts to implement a double shift? because that's the common case where you want, for 32-bit shifted numbers, that single shifting by 32 results in zero 
< 1733259605 759248 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: that's one of "the few that do"
< 1733259626 651193 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but most commonly I want overflowing shifts to hit the adjacent elements of an array
< 1733259639 524484 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(IIRC x86 has a bit selection routine that actually does that)
< 1733259643 146824 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"there's a reason that 32 bit x86 wraps the shift count mod 32 even if it's shifting something smaller than 32 bits" => yes, but they introduced the modulo 32 rule in 286, which does not yet have 32-bit shifts nor double shifts. and I guess that makes sense because it means shifting by 16 results in 0 so you can implement a double shift easily.
< 1733259955 825980 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, either you call the double 386 shift instruction SHLD with the two adjacent array elements as its input operands; or the 386 BT/BTR/BTS/BTS instructions which lets you affect one bit from a memory array and so use most of the shift count to determine how much to index your array
< 1733260007 991458 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it wouldn't surprise me if BT were microcoded and thus really slow
< 1733260012 952206 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although I don't remember for certain
< 1733260056 346461 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :microcoded on what cpu?
< 1733260084 744029 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :let me check Agner's docs
< 1733260087 525805 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :recent x86alikes
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< 1733260628 260249 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it looks like on some cpus memory BT are slow (as in you'd usually better use other instructions) but not very slow, and on some cpus they're fast enough, so you are at least partly right. 
> 1733260764 894853 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Emojic wheel result.png10]]"
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< 1733269035 892951 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :cursed idea: what would a "resource fork"-native API look like, if we could pretend there's no filesystem altogether and just stack resource forks on resource forks? (and then use it for regular filesystems anyway because the rest of the world refuses to improve)
< 1733269217 815398 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The API can look like whatever you want, really. Consider git, which I'm currently using instead of a filesystem; git's lowest-level API is a declarative content-addressed store, but folks usually use the "porcelain" API which provides a version-control system.
< 1733269270 852426 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure
< 1733269288 548279 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :what would a programming language's IO library look like if it were built with resource forks in mind, instead of files
< 1733269300 596522 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :(yes, *instead of*, not in addition to)
< 1733270207 459493 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: well a resource fork is part of a file – do you mean that executables would look at their own resource fork?
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< 1733270245 655428 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :... did you just quit after replying
< 1733270257 585212 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I misclicked
< 1733270261 150835 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1733270264 551650 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thus the fast rejoin
< 1733270283 706047 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :have you heard of "file-dir duality"?
< 1733270291 83299 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :accidentally opened my OS's equivalent of a start menu trying to tab away from the window, then accidentally clicked the close window button trying to close the menu
< 1733270310 866061 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: no – it's possible that I'll know the concept under another name
< 1733270327 882086 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it the way you can treat, e.g., a zip file as though it were a directory, and in theory vice versa although most filesystems don't do that?
< 1733270351 109243 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :do you know how http://foo.example/bar is not the same as http://foo.example/bar/ ?
< 1733270371 842624 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :indeed, although websites often choose to treat them the same way
< 1733270389 592245 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, so file-dir duality is the same but for the filesystem
< 1733270425 171140 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :traditionally unix does this using the convention of sticking a ".d/" everywhere
< 1733270437 459309 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, so you can have something that can be interpreted either as a file or as a directory, and the two views don't necessarily have anything in common?
< 1733270438 214622 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. profile vs profile.d
< 1733270447 604498 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, "duality" in the sense of "two approaches", like particle-wave duality.
< 1733270454 556444 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: yes
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< 1733270488 102221 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :so like it's useful to have it as two views of the same object
< 1733270496 830833 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :for example, profile and profile.d/
< 1733270539 547711 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not all filesystems are like this; some filesystems have objects which are only files or only directories. git has `blob` and `tree`. The event-sourced filesystems like ZFS, btrfs, bcachefs, etc. also distinguish between files and directories.
< 1733270546 765194 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :or something you'd traditionally do as foo.lua + foo/bar.lua
< 1733270555 106521 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Some non-file-systems are like this, e.g. Gopher.
< 1733270567 214310 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: sure, but which API is more general
< 1733270593 802976 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: at some point, "more general" becomes a matter of perspective
< 1733270626 772707 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a Perl scalar can be interpreted either as an integer or as a string, normally the two interpretations are compatible in the sense that the integer interpretation is the numerical value of the string
< 1733270637 674097 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: I don't think it changes the API meaningfully. Not like e.g. capability theory, which requires everything to be relative to some parent.
< 1733270640 195091 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but you can create a Perl scalar where the two interpretations are unrelated
< 1733270664 32391 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can use the garbage filesystem from the better API (we do it all the time with http), but you can't use the better filesystem with a garbage API (don't even bother mounting a webdav on a modern OS, the experience sucks. just use a webdav library instead.)
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< 1733270682 11017 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :does that make it more general? in one sense, yes; in another sense, no because it's more general still to use a scheme where things can have arbitrary types with arbitrary stringifications and intifications, and Perl has that too
< 1733270694 874478 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :(wait is webdav the right thing, we don't remember if it's the thing we're thinking of)
< 1733270714 784468 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: For yet another example, consider Tahoe-LAFS or its relatives. Every piece of data is a small binary file, including directories; a directory is merely a special file format. In Tahoe, that format includes a cryptographic signature to prevent tampering, but that's optional.
< 1733270732 644537 :mtm!~textual@47.202.75.129 JOIN #esolangs mtm :Textual User
< 1733270751 722467 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: how does the filesystem handle things that are conceptually large binary files, like videos?
< 1733270757 938821 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :we would also do away with the path DSL personally
< 1733270806 198815 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :(we have too many competing path DSLs, just use arrays of filenames already)
< 1733270824 248327 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: For Tahoe in particular, there's both a big-file extension and a chunking extension baked into today's protocol. However, Tahoe was intended to be used with Usenet-style error-encoding tools like zfec, which pre-chunk everything and apply a parity coding.
< 1733270883 526923 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: right
< 1733270908 619585 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Another technique is my DHT Radio, which trades space for time. A constant amount of data ( 1733271711 973933 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Estrita14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147408&oldid=147395 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+8) 10mark as wip I guess
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< 1733272527 113663 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did have some ideas relating to some of such thing before, that a operating system design that does not have directory structures, although any file can contain links to other files (and files also have forks, although they are not limited to two forks).
< 1733272560 71244 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Functions such as "fopen" would not be available (although "fmemopen", "fopencookie", etc can still be used), so some other functions will be needed.
< 1733272579 657526 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I am not sure what.)
< 1733272663 307135 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Probably the reference to a file will appear as a opaque object but it can be read from or written to a file.
< 1733272697 13110 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It requires all disk accesses to be structured. It's a block device; so, reads always return a block-sized rich structure with lots of attached data.
< 1733272756 359887 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Then, with OS support, a reference to a block can be encoded in a rich structure s.t. user-level code isn't allowed to print out the raw address directly, or access it directly, etc. The typical pattern for that is the "c-table", which is just an array of file-descriptor-like objects.
< 1733272869 701438 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, I would think it would be like file-descriptor-like objects, although I had consider to make them as "capabilities", so a link to a file can also appear as a capability.
< 1733272873 563507 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :TBH I'd just look at seL4 and figure out how to use that instead of reinventing the wheel.
< 1733272959 5740 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :once we have file-dir duality, there's no reason to bother with "forks"
< 1733273026 456611 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I would think it is worth looking anyways, whether or not it can be used as it is
< 1733273068 718040 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe you are right.
< 1733273203 777690 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Another idea I had is transactional file system. Furthermore, I think that forks can still be useful, to identify parts of files that can be written independently (to avoid having to move stuff around a lot; if necessary, a function could be added to efficiently move data from one fork to another fork in the same file).
> 1733273229 950221 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Quantum Nothing14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147410 5* 03ZCX islptng 5* (+616) 10Created page with "This is an esolang created by islptng.  ==Syntax== Every program with 1 byte or more is invalid. It runs the following code, which raises a Syntax Error:  +++++++++[->+++++++++<]>++.<++++++[->++++++<]>++.<+++[->---<]>--.++++++.<++++[->----<]>---.<++++[->++++<
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< 1733273364 576127 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, I just had a realisation – files could do with a concept of whether they're still actively being appended to or not
< 1733273395 403250 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for certain special files, like pipes, this already exists – if you read all the data from a pipe, but the write end is still open, the read will block rather than returning EOF
< 1733273412 423890 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Transactions are important for sure. I think a lot about the way that both git and Tahoe (and I hear Fuchsia's storage as well?) separate an immutable content-addressed storage layer below, from a mutable tree-like naming system on top.
< 1733273416 128213 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but this is useful for regular files too, e.g. because you're using the file both for streaming and recording
< 1733273472 546876 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wrote a ttyrec player that is able to stream from a growing regular file – it checks to see if the file has grown to know whether to switch into streaming mode – but then it isn't able to know when to *stop* reading from it so the video length just grows indefinitely
< 1733273593 964435 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, sometimes it might be useful, although maybe there are other ways to do it
< 1733273748 160645 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yeah, I know, and what's more useful in those cases is getting notified when the file grows, but I'm generally fine with the writer and the reader program having to cooperate by some protocol using something outside that append-only file in these cases
< 1733273844 539795 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: we can't really apply one standard to regular files anyway. we have two to four different ways of locking a file; when a file is overwritten or a logfile cycled there are like three different ways to do that; etc. 
< 1733273946 676024 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And it turns out, contrary to standard UNIX lore, that end users sometimes *do* just want to stream GiB of data without saving any of it.
< 1733274009 259845 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...I mean, there's named FIFOs, but UNIX wouldn't support the append mode for ordinary files if they didn't expect the streaming behaviors y'all're describing.
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< 1733274744 816515 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I'd love it if the OS handled all this somehow, so that there wouldn't have to be so many different ways to do regular-file streaming and log rotation
< 1733274777 683608 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the API for one-program-streaming-to-two is a mess; you can do it with, e.g., tee to a named pipe but it is unreasonably complicated
< 1733274815 926803 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :back in university, I was working on a project that effectively needed named pipes, but I didn't realise they existed
< 1733274825 293605 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I ended up reimplementing them out of anonymous pipes and /dev/fd/
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< 1733274907 381161 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Linux leases are a great solution to the "multiple incompatible ways of locking a file" situation
< 1733274940 512501 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in that the programs don't need to cooperate
< 1733275003 656792 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am still kind-of stuck on what a file actually *is*, conceptually – there's one view of it as a stream of bytes that might or might not be rewindable, but also a separate view in which you overwrite the bytes at specific offsets
< 1733275020 967362 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I haven't figured out a good way to define the behaviour of a file that takes both of those views into account
< 1733275075 221166 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it reminds me of raw bytes in memory, in a way – there are lots of things you can do with them and you have to have some agreed meaning for them, and rules for changing them, for them to be at all useful
< 1733275089 119605 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with files, even if you know the file format, you still need to know the agreed rules for how the file can change before you can use it safely
< 1733275111 474202 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement
< 1733275176 18896 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :one consequence of all this is that Rust programs basically can't memory-map files without huge undefined behaviour, or really heavy use of unsafe code – you can't create a reference that points into a memory-mapped file without the risk that some other program violates the reference safety constraints
< 1733275217 723489 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is obviously the case for shared mappings, but it may also be the case for private mappings, if you map part of the file that isn't resident in memory and some other process writes to the file while you already have a reference into it
< 1733275236 534363 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I am not sure whether it is possible for this particular UB to ever have any consequences, it seems hard for a compiler to exploit)
< 1733275291 796623 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Doesn't Rust have a safe solution for that? It would merely mean excluding simultaneous access to the mmap.
< 1733275334 863199 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not as far as I know, I don't think mmaps are part of the core language, they just exist in third-party crates
< 1733275379 883375 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and excluding simultaneous access to an mmap is hard because it's hard to prevent other processes accessing the same file, and the semantics for what happens when two processes access the same file and one is mmapping aren't defined very well
< 1733275424 493682 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you could probably do it with a lease, but a lease breaks after 10 seconds, and Rust doesn't have any concept of "a reference that becomes invalid after 10 seconds"
< 1733275453 783831 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was hoping to see something safe in the crate `nix`, but I'm only seeing nix::sys::mman::mmap_anonymous, which returns an opaque FFI ref to the mmap.
< 1733275557 637440 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(to clarify: a lease doesn't always break after 10 seconds, but it could – the kernel notifies you when you have 10 seconds of leasing left, and you're supposed to drop the lease much faster than that 10 seconds in order to avoid UB)
< 1733275754 76688 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: It might be interesting to know how seL4 does mmaps: it doesn't! Or at least that's the rhetoric. A process only has access to mmaps which it is born with or granted via messages; it can't ask for more.
< 1733275779 834109 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So it's hard not to see UNIX's everything-is-file-shaped philosophy as part of the problem.
< 1733275813 359507 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: that feels like an orthogonal problem
< 1733275841 782735 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: if files have files inside them, you can just put files inside files to configure the files
< 1733275842 893142 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if seL4 guaranteed that any maps the process was born with are always uncontended, that would solve the problem – I don't know whether it does that or not
< 1733275851 527504 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :wanna set an icon? .icon.png, problem solved
< 1733275876 990552 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :when everything is a fork, you don't need forks
< 1733275886 99827 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It means that it's up to the process tree's code to choose how to divide up its own memory. If it wants to set up two children that talk to each other, then it can do that; it can also isolate its children from one another.
< 1733275939 46507 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: oh, I see – I was thinking about using mmaps to, say, read in a file that the user requested the program to read
< 1733275952 839943 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: Reminds me of Objective-Smalltalk's polymorphic storage identifiers, or whatever he calls them these days. An object is just a function with a lot of different methods; and similarly, a URL or filepath can have lots of different verbs upon it.
< 1733275972 470417 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am comfortable with that sort of request being given in capability form rather than as a filename, but that doesn't seem sufficient here
< 1733275989 651460 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: don't get us started on URIs
< 1733276026 301514 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: or do. we tried to have some fun with them not too long ago https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-soni-meta-uri-00.html
< 1733276072 291059 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :(nobody actually cares about the issue we were trying to solve tho)
< 1733276108 311710 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Think of a cap as a full-fledged actor-style object that can send and receive messages. There's no reason that a cap can't fulfill requests by giving the requestor access to an mmap with the assurance that it is immutable.
< 1733276184 662955 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :solving issues is hard
< 1733276192 944359 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :we'd rather cause problems
< 1733276212 453875 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: You didn't state the issue that you're trying to solve.
< 1733276235 179318 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh
< 1733276258 195073 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: in which context?
< 1733276309 699661 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: In the RFC. The issue, the applications being addressed, the future applications, those are missing.
< 1733276424 456145 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :ahh yeah that's fair
< 1733276438 530900 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs : ais523: Think of a cap as a full-fledged actor-style object that can send and receive messages. There's no reason that a cap can't fulfill requests by giving the requestor access to an mmap with the assurance that it is immutable. ← yes, that would work
< 1733276442 163172 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :we're not sure we care enough to update it...
< 1733276447 870297 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :ultimately it had to do with fediverse stuff
< 1733276476 541325 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the assurance is the new/interesting part
< 1733276479 36447 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the fact that you still can't "click to open in the app" a mastodon post
< 1733276488 260576 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :but we're trying to move on from fedi stuff
< 1733276502 988053 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's certainly possible for an object to contain one of those, but it would be new behaviour as far as capabilities go
< 1733276530 899184 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :normally capabilities tell a program what they can do and provide a mechanism to do it, whereas this one is making a promise about what the rest of the system will do
< 1733276557 566050 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think Genode has something like this in their Rust bindings. Genode is not really related to E or Monte or Joule, but like them it is *object-capability*: caps are refs to objects and objects behave like actors when they invoke each other asynchronously.
< 1733276574 952731 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But Genode's an OS on top of seL4. I keep meaning to try it out but get busy with other stuff.
< 1733276760 221825 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...Ah, no, the current Rust support does not appear to feature a Genode-specific API. It looks like it's a recent one-person passion project: https://genodians.org/atopia/
< 1733276950 433658 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :we'd still love to have a way to split metadata from the URI while still having a valid URI...
< 1733277021 543665 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :an URI locates a resource but a resource can be ambiguous without extra out-of-band information
< 1733277038 168122 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :how do you keep the information out-of-band while still putting it in an URI
< 1733277071 397823 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :so we came up with meta-URIs, they're URIs plus out-of-band information, packaged in an URI-shaped format
< 1733277114 582941 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :... anyway we digress
< 1733277139 152384 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :so what do you think about causing problems with an unusual IO API that ditches the filesystem for making everything forks?
< 1733277156 996005 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :(this is #esolangs after all, not #problemsolving)
< 1733277314 29650 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I feel like forks are only useful if they are interpreted/understood by multiple programs (with the OS counting as a program for this purpose)
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< 1733279163 64024 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :by forks, do you mean the feature when a regular file can have multiple streams of bytes in it, streams not limited to small sizes?
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< 1733289973 361207 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :With my operating system ideas, the files don't have "files inside of them", although my idea did involve using certain forks to configure various things (including metadata). The forks numbered 0 to 65535 will have conventional meanings and higher numbered forks (they are 32-bit numbers) have no conventional meaning, so would normally be mentioned in other forks.
< 1733290015 857893 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, it is not "everything is a file"; but, everything outside of a program is a capability, being like a actor model.
< 1733290051 744275 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :A file consists of a set of numbered forks and each fork is a stream of bytes and/or links.
< 1733290113 642194 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :My design does not have file names at all.
< 1733290192 2301 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Actors and capabilities are also some stuff you had mentioned. However, there are some differences in how some systems are doing it, and I have some of my own ideas about it. I had considered using a single system call only, mainly in order to solve some issues with race conditions and atomic operations)
< 1733290276 995144 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Another issue is referencing files by the command shell. I do have the idea about that as well. There are at least two ways (and they can be combined): A reference to a file (or any capability) can be selected with the mouse and copied into the command line, and/or you can specify queries to find a reference automatically and use that.
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> 1733290486 891252 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:5anz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147424&oldid=147394 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+276) 10/* esolang? */
< 1733290596 706862 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had seen one design that uses "everything is URI" but I think that isn't very good either.
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< 1733290751 273961 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had recently seen some stuff relating to Pony programming language (including that division by zero results in zero; uxn also does this), but also it uses capabilities, although within one program instead of for the entire system. (I think capability systems are more useful when they are what the system uses instead of what a program uses)
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< 1733290932 892300 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Pony has six kind of reference capabilities; I had not considered that, although it might be useful if you want to support shared memory. However, I am not sure that I should have shared memory, since it might have some other problems, with security and with network transparency, maybe.
< 1733291126 80132 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Another security feature would be that the operating system should disallow some instructions from working such as RDTSC, and should emulate CPUID instead of allowing it to work directly.
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< 1733297317 941541 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: x86 can trap on rdtsc so an OS can emulate it if it wants to
< 1733297358 831093 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it's unclear whether you know that)
> 1733297513 131747 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move_redir10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10moved [[02Tommyaweosme/emojic collab with yayimhere and ractangle10]] to [[User:Tommyaweosme/unnamed collab with yayimhere and ractangle]] over redirect: Revert  was accidentally moved to the wrong namespace, I will redo the move to the correct namespace
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< 1733297592 287912 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(But that's not true for cpuid, which seems a bit strange. I believe you can override some of the cpuid information though? Not sure, it's a hugely complex instruction, and I'm not reading the whole description rn :-P)
> 1733297598 368295 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10moved [[02User:Tommyaweosme/unnamed collab with yayimhere and ractangle10]] to [[User:Tommyaweosme/Emojic collab with yayimhere and ractangle]]: repeat [[User:Yayimhere]]'s move, except keep the page in the user namespace
< 1733297621 446046 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: IIRC RDRAND also can't be overridden, despite being nondeterministic
< 1733297661 927633 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: https://www.felixcloutier.com/x86/rdrand agrees
< 1733297675 513746 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ring -1 can trap cpuid, IIRC. Or maybe it was Ring -2? Somewhere in the SMM.
< 1733297694 223220 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But it's not just a hardcoded readout of branding and stepping info.
< 1733297712 514845 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :CPUID's interface is… weird
< 1733297729 800210 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's intel's version of ioctl
< 1733297743 622744 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(not really but it's equally diverse)
< 1733297748 62249 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can query it for the maximum supported CPUID leaf; accessing high leaves is UB, accessing lower leaves is not UB but they might not be implemented, in which case they return all-zeroes
< 1733297773 623115 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this seems… strictly worse than returning all-zeroes for unimplemented leaves regardless of whether they're higher or lower than the maximum supported leaf?
< 1733297792 822846 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* accessing higher leaves is UB
< 1733297807 976350 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: yes, there are some bits in cpuid that tells to user programs not only that the CPU hardware supports a feature but that the the OS also supports that feature, and the OS needs to enable those, for two reasons: one is that when the CPU introduces new registers, the OS needs to be able to save those when switching between processes, the other is live migration of virtual machines between hosts 
< 1733297813 974962 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with different CPUs
< 1733297923 296342 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway I don't see a good reason why cpuid can't be trapped. It's a rarely used instruction, no doubt microcoded so already slow...
< 1733297961 853419 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :with rdrand you can argue that it's supposed to be fast (not that a check of a control register bit should be that expensive)
< 1733297976 572977 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(do we have timings for rdrand, hmm)
< 1733298083 506305 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The name suggests that the hardware has a `rand` pseudo-register that perhaps reads from some genuine entropy source on-die.
> 1733298087 367397 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DJN OISC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147431&oldid=120399 5* 03Iddi01 5* (+131) 10[[Redcode|can't believe that this page doesn't have a link to the origin of the instruction which is t h e. u l t i m a t e. p r o g r a m m i n g. g a m e.]]
< 1733298108 813228 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's slow. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10484164/what-is-the-latency-and-throughput-of-the-rdrand-instruction-on-ivy-bridge has some random cycle numbers
< 1733298174 468123 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though it's unclear whether it's still slow if you use it sparingly... though hmm, if that's your use case then it's not worth optimizing because it won't be a bottleneck
< 1733298253 891132 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This DRNG idea is fun. Gotta make sure that the entropy is spread evenly across all cores. I suppose that this would make sense if the on-die entropy requires a lot of dedicated space or has an analog circuit.
< 1733298409 309554 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, I see no good reason why this shouldn't be trappable for the same reason(s) that rdtsc is. Maybe they're worried about running out of control register bits :P
> 1733298433 677087 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147432&oldid=147153 5* 03Zaikawo 5* (+249) 10introducing myself
< 1733298549 462513 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(It'll mess with reverse debugging which is sad. Yes, you can single-step code for that purpose, but that's still sad :-) )
< 1733298685 383419 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh we're working around this issue in software? :-) https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/17112
< 1733298708 365396 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(that's not a happy smiley)
< 1733298938 821562 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the technique of using CPUID trapping to claim RDRAND isn't supported is clever, and will likely work in practice, but is wrong in theory :-)
< 1733298966 61572 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well not just vms really, it could be migration of a process with OS support, or one of those CPUs that have two different types of cores in the same housing, as in power-saving and high-performance, and they support different instruction sets
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> 1733299284 458329 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Saturncorgi 5*  10New user account
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< 1733302690 78754 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: on one hand, yes, it sounds like the cpu developers could easily have made RDRAND trappable. on the other hand,
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< 1733302756 571838 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe there are like ten other more subtle reasons why it's impossible to make modern x86  deterministic for a non-cooperating (untrusted) userspace process without very costly emulation, and the cpu developers chose to make rdrand not trappable to make that fact more obvious.
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< 1733311536 133234 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not really looking forward for doing today in Burlesque, it's terrible for anything iterative, or 2D-arrayish.
< 1733311543 948588 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :If it wasn't for the diagonals I'd use the string builtins to search for "XMAS" in the original, reversed, transposed and reversed-and-transposed lines, but I don't think it has anything for diagonals.
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< 1733322726 621365 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :--> var ABC=["A","B","C"], DEC=[1,2,3]; cx.cartesian(ABC,DEC);
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> 1733324441 780869 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sirc14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147469 5* 03Baldibacak 5* (+1354) 10Created page with "== Sirc ==  Sirc is an esolang based on a single-register CPU. Programs in Sirc operate by being loaded into RAM, as the architecture does not allow immediate values. The language is designed to be minimalistic and challenging to use.  === Architecture ===  * The CPU ha
> 1733324531 958332 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sirc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147470&oldid=147469 5* 03Baldibacak 5* (-104) 10
> 1733324604 116356 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sirc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147471&oldid=147470 5* 03Baldibacak 5* (+82) 10
> 1733324655 884111 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sirc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147472&oldid=147471 5* 03Baldibacak 5* (+65) 10forgot to add jmp instruction
> 1733324670 215265 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Sirc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147473&oldid=147472 5* 03Baldibacak 5* (+0) 10and made a typo
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< 1733324714 976010 :baldibacak!~baldibaca@151.250.2.76 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well hello
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> 1733327088 279397 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147475&oldid=145304 5* 03B jonas 5* (+12) 10/* IRC */
> 1733327138 481989 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Estrita14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147476&oldid=147416 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+394) 10minor change
< 1733327145 630247 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :m0ther: greet
< 1733327160 409383 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs ::: greet
> 1733327164 988524 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147477&oldid=147449 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+242) 10/* collab? */
< 1733327170 523199 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :::greet
< 1733327172 190849 :m0ther!~utoneq@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: 15hello world 
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< 1733328420 686698 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :::learn chr s=>[...s].map(c=>c.codePointAt(0)).join(" ")
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< 1733328473 241023 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :::chr A
< 1733328524 971512 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :m0ther: cx.chr=s=>[...s].map(c=>c.codePointAt(0)).join(" ")
< 1733328553 605005 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :m0ther: 2+3
< 1733328559 391984 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :--> 2+3
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< 1733328680 134850 :m0ther!~utoneq@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :earend1: 15learned new command: chr 
< 1733328685 423461 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :::chr A
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> 1733328690 305058 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Luminol14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147479&oldid=147434 5* 03Zaikawo 5* (+1648) 10made the page make more sense :thumbsup:
< 1733328769 613854 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :has cx.fetch .. so you can code a tiny webservice with resources you have (like free on runkit) and bind it with a one liner likee that. was the idea
< 1733328778 984290 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :m0ther: cx
< 1733328812 72242 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :::help
< 1733328813 640725 :m0ther!~utoneq@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: 15 
< 1733328866 859586 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :unfortunately that version isnt up to date. its an rescued older workspace. 
> 1733328896 138522 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Zaikawo14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147480 5* 03Zaikawo 5* (+260) 10woah
< 1733328911 733219 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :some features like gist pastes doesnt work now.. have to update API credentials
< 1733328939 573641 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs : ::learn name s=>blah+s 
< 1733328979 750978 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :just a lambda taking a single param s. whjich is everything followed after command name
< 1733329057 21682 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :usually it would use pastes for commands with longer outout automatically .. (which for now doesnt work.. so you get just an error or nothing at all) 
< 1733329068 955313 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :(API keys)_
< 1733329213 284604 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: You're not wrong... anything with shared memory (say a user-space spin lock) is going to be nondeterministic. `rr` basically disables threads (only one runs at any given time).
< 1733329269 856661 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: so what makes rdrand annoiying is that it's non-deterministic even in an isolated single threaded context
< 1733329274 620266 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION shrugs

> 1733329492 640870 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Luminol14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147481&oldid=147479 5* 03Zaikawo 5* (+18) 10clarified what values are
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< 1733330409 99883 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: yes, that's one of the largest problems, but I think even if you restrict multithreading there are other difficulties
< 1733330421 904217 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh sure.
< 1733330550 379916 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Most obviously you can share memory between processes, so it's not just threads.
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< 1733333494 938787 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :divide and conquer
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< 1733333568 25997 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :js concurrency and event-loop fast io is awesome to delegate work around the world so to say
< 1733333598 902063 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :surely trivial remark 
< 1733333668 610423 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :i love how i will never understand talk in this channel
< 1733333723 447476 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No worries. I don't understand anything either.
< 1733333802 685099 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( When you understand everything, you get a Bachelor's. When you understand nothing, you get a Master's. And when you realize that nobody else understands anything either, you get a PhD )
< 1733333821 284278 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(This is a joke. Also true. But a joke. :) )
< 1733333842 381870 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :concurrency vs true parallel .. or more like synthese: web 1.0
< 1733333894 365517 :earend1!uid657395@user/utoneq PRIVMSG #esolangs :wer nichts wird wird wirt, und wer das nicht schafft wird betriebswirt.
< 1733333900 304561 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( all web development leads to eventual inconsistency )
< 1733333955 684543 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have a web developer living in my back yard. She builds an entire web every night! If only I were so productive. But I'd have to eat flies.
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< 1733334246 837114 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi!!
< 1733334271 435704 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have news that prop nobody will care about: im learning prolog
< 1733334278 793459 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :should i use it to make compilers?
< 1733334284 197755 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it seems like it would make sense but
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< 1733334714 726715 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Fun! You certainly can use it to make a compiler. Prolog was originally intended for parsing, but it can also be used for code transformation and emission.
< 1733334733 178381 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also yes this is cuz you reccomended minikanren
< 1733334781 718486 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also my reasoning is thta if you define the rules of the language makes the problem the actual program then you wouldnt need to do all the inbetween stuff? maybe idk lol
< 1733334905 549807 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure. miniKanren is nice for expressing very pure relations that need to always be reversible. Prolog is better for practical work; it allows the user to tell the runtime to not explore certain possibilities, or to evaluate things in a fairly specific order.
< 1733334926 918463 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats also usefull
< 1733334944 487245 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have found out im a declarative fan
< 1733334947 992616 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And yes, lots of parts of Prolog are effectively the user giving the runtime like three lines of code, and the runtime expanding that to hundreds of lines of equivalent low-level C. The same thing happens with SQL and database engines.
< 1733334961 292103 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nice
< 1733335296 940155 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Have you seen lists and append yet? I think it's something like: append([], X, X). append([X|Xs], Z, [X|Ys]) :- append(Xs, Z, Ys).
< 1733335325 901524 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no i have not
< 1733335327 689363 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and now
< 1733335334 421402 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im horrorfied
< 1733335334 660476 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :[] and [|] are syntax for nil/0 and cons/2, so this is just: append(nil, X, X). append(cons(X, Xs), Z, cons(X, Ys)) :- append(Xs, Z, Ys).
< 1733335437 695430 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, it's merely two logical statements: `for all X, [] ++ X == X` and `for all X, Y, Z, x, if X ++ Z == Y then cons(x, X) ++ Z == cons(x, Y)`. Two properties of lists.
< 1733335456 37776 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1733335502 248508 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But also, because a list is always either a nil/0 or cons/2, this means that append/3 can always pattern-match its first argument. This is a crucial insight in Prolog, because it means that (some) runtimes figure out that append/3 is actually a function.
< 1733335543 426300 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1733335545 322962 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's kind of two ways to write Prolog. You can write relations and let the runtime search for the answer, or you can write functions and let the runtime evaluate them like traditional programming.
< 1733335589 268490 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Languages like Mercury, Curry, Mozart/Oz, etc. are all built around that idea of relations and functions as two different things that work together.
< 1733335603 553363 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
< 1733335617 335900 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Would you like to be more horrified or would you like to see something practical?
< 1733335633 631342 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :while i learn more different langs ill be making an actual language on the side as i go along and get inspired
< 1733335639 882783 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: hmmmmmmm good quesiton
< 1733335643 273298 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*question
< 1733335726 288193 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also bye
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< 1733338864 425002 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I think the constructor for list nodes isn't actually called cons, it's called .
< 1733338902 111019 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Probably. I don't remember all the fun syntax. I remember that ,/2 is a constructor.
< 1733338944 515178 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, but that's a different one
< 1733339012 980279 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Got it. Still confused, but that's okay.
< 1733339040 779827 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :though I do call it cons in https://esolangs.org/wiki/Olvashat%C3%B3
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< 1733344832 204611 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :If x86 cannot be made fully deterministic, can RISC-V be, and what other instruction sets do?
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> 1733346242 489629 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Dtp09 5*  10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Truth-machine-tile.png10]]": program compressed by two tiles horizontally
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< 1733350397 461349 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I look and maybe it is possible to disable RDRAND with hypervisors
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< 1733386384 366849 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have some questions about syntax for the lang im making so i wanted to know: whats some of the most readable and fast to parse syntaxes for oneline functions?
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< 1733420174 243444 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: Lately I've been using S-expressions. They're easy to parse, can be transformed into other tree-like common syntax like JSON or XML, and have very simple tree homomorphisms.
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< 1733424714 681663 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Something that I had sometimes been using lately is DER
< 1733424907 789255 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think JSON and XML have some problems, although they might be suitable for some purposes.
< 1733424928 663825 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(PostScript notation is another possibility; it also has key/value lists, string, integer, boolean, arrays, and also comments)
< 1733425005 435148 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :They're both useful because other tools consume them, mostly. I don't really prefer XML but it arises when working in the Java ecosystem. JSON has the formidable `jq` language nearby, can be viewed in a Web browser, is durable over ASCII transport, and is human-readable with a pretty-printer; it's not a bad linguafranca.
< 1733425095 740034 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can't overstate how nice jq is. For some reason, I have real trouble remembering it when I'm not writing lots of it; but other than that it's great. It's powerful enough to self-interpret too.
< 1733425116 87417 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :JSON doesn't have comments, optional trailing commas, non-Unicode text, binary data, requires keys to be text, and although you can allegedly write any numbers, JavaScript will be limited to 64-bit floating-point.
< 1733425129 457216 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(This is likely more of my E bias; JSON started as Data-E, a subset of E describing plain data.)
< 1733425130 677219 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Some of these things are not needed for a binary-based format, but would be helpful in text-based formats.
< 1733425169 927875 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, ECMAScript has been bad for JSON. Fortunately, Python, Ruby, and lots of other languages will gladly write and read bigints in JSON.
< 1733425177 563313 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Also, what kind of data structures are useful depends on the programs; for some uses, JSON has a suitable structure but others it doesn't)
< 1733425198 711860 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :JavaScript does have a integer type, although it was added after JSON was invented and cannot be used in JSON.
< 1733425317 956540 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :DER is a binary format (although I had made up a few new types in it too, such as key/value list), which is already going to be used by programs that deal with HTTPS and other TLS-based protocols anyways, and I had made up a text-based format called TER and a program to convert TER->DER, so that is another possibility.
< 1733425338 927512 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is this related to BER? I see you talking a lot about ASN.1.
< 1733425377 580198 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes; DER is a subset of BER, which only allows one possible encoding, so it is a canonical form (the other canonical form is CER, but I think that DER is better)
< 1733425458 96035 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Probably the most common use of DER is X.509 certificates, although it can be used for other data as well if you want to do.
< 1733425497 749804 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's the only place I see ASN.1. I know that it comes up in some industrial/manufacturing contexts.
< 1733425692 554695 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(My "ASN.1X" variant (which adds the types I mentioned) also deprecates some things and adds some additional restrictions (e.g. the presence or absence of an optional field (or one with a default value) must be deteminable without looking ahead), although X.509 does not violate these restrictions as far as I know.)
< 1733426427 456642 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Also, XML had been used for things it is not suitable for much in past; the structure of XML may be suitable for some things (e.g. rich text) but is bad for many other things.)
< 1733426470 730849 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure. XML's handling of binary data is still terrible, in particular. JSON doesn't really solve this, but the community seems to have decided that Base64 will work.
< 1733426734 81260 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :PostScript has hex strings and ascii85 strings. TER has hex strings and base64 strings. (In all of these cases they are converted to binary strings)
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< 1733428536 821268 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I personally think that prolog is one of the worst languages to learn as a beginner programmer. There are way too many cases when a mistake results in backtracking failure rather than aborting, which makes it hard to debug. Now if you want to learn how to write an interpreter, then prolog has an advantage, which is that just like lisps it's shipped with a quite versatile reader that you can 
< 1733428542 890433 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :easily invoke in runtime, the same reader that is used to read prolog programs, and that reader has a much more flexible and convenient syntax than the lisps that do the same. Mathematica is probably better than either of these with respect to flexible built-in reader of the same language, but unless you can get a license through your school it's also rather expensive, so I can't recommend it for that 
< 1733428548 829801 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :reason. 
< 1733428609 116353 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :There was some weird word for this property of lisps and prolog and mathematic, reading data in the same form as the program, perhaps "homoiconic".
< 1733428910 452896 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, for sure. I continue to hope that wWwwW is learning six or so different languages, and that this introductory taste of Prolog will be balanced out by a Forth.
< 1733428928 814962 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I've no fear that, at some point, wWwwW will have to learn something like Python.)
< 1733428970 742045 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wish Wolfram weren't the only popular implementation of M-expressions. There's no real reason that that technology has to cost money.
< 1733431095 976120 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Unrelated to that, I have a weird eso-syntax question. Consider a programming language syntax that uses the traditional fortran/algol/C syntax for named function calls, with parenthesis and commas, so f() or f(A) or f(A,B) or f(A,B,C) are function calls where f is a function name and A, B, C are expressions. Suppose that the language is also like haskell or rust in that struct/enum constructors use a 
< 1733431102 138895 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :similar syntax, so f can also be the name of a constructor in those expressions, and in that case you can use the parenthesis comma notation in a pattern too. Would it make sense to name some of the important built-in or library constructors or functions with a name that has digits only? Eg. instead of False() or None() you write 0(), instead of True() you write 1(), instead of Just(A) you write 1(A), 
< 1733431108 124444 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :instead of a tuple (A,B) you write 1(A,B), instead of a cons pair [A|B] you write 2(A,B) and maybe 2(A,B,C) means the double cons [A,B|C] by analogy. Or 4(somefunction,somelist) is a map, 5(somefunction,somelist) is a filter, 6(somefunction,somelist) is a fold. To be clear these are numerals used as names, not actual numbers, so if you have a variable that has the number 2 as its value then you can't 
< 1733431114 132576 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :call that as a cons constructor. 2(A,B) gets to be unambiguous special syntax because you can't call a number.
< 1733431137 550498 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Rust uses numeric names for the *fields* of tuple structs, but I haven't seen all-digit names used as constructor or function names yet.
< 1733431148 207851 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there a language that works this way?
< 1733431189 492631 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This could be appropriate for a langauge that has somewhat terse syntax, even if it doesn't necessarily go full golf language route.
< 1733431207 601356 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I may consider it for a toy language.
< 1733433876 756604 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wow. this video by Usage Electric "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe1wYwGcjlo" casually mentions one of the most hardcore esolanging challenges that I'd ever heard of. you know how multiple retrocomputing hobbyists have built a computer of their own original design from retro hardware, eg. https://esolangs.org/wiki/Magic-1 and https://esolangs.org/wiki/BMOW_1 ? Usagi Electric is building one from 
< 1733433882 955469 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*vacuum tubes*.
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< 1733434121 348425 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's not even the topic of the video, he just mentions it casually as if every retro hardware collector had one of those things in their house.
> 1733434212 702955 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Emojic chances.png10]]"
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< 1733435009 652185 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Remarkable, thanks for sharing.
> 1733435805 580819 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07F (None1)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147553&oldid=132172 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+0) 10fixing one letter (major typo)
> 1733436313 945115 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Desrever14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147554&oldid=147545 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+42) 10Categories
> 1733436771 215544 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Addpocalypse14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147555&oldid=145403 5* 03Arctenik 5* (+136) 10/* Turing-complete variation */ marking my own unsigned comment lol
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> 1733437542 862106 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Baba is you14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147558 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+25) 10while I'm at it...
> 1733437565 606219 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Baba is You14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147559 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+25) 10while I'm at it...
< 1733437780 867205 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is a documentation available of the computer with the vacuum tubes?
< 1733437835 404288 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I'm still looking that up now. There's the playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnw98JPyObn0v-98gRV9PfzAQONTKxql3 , and possibly more on Patreon.
< 1733437874 565193 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll definitely need to create a page for this on the wiki
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> 1733438131 655959 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Burgercamp/Constants14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147562&oldid=130672 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+121) 10/* 26 and onward */ added several new values and optimized 70 and variants
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> 1733438229 264729 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:A14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147564 5* 035anz 5* (+266) 10Created page with "== Hello, World! ==  The hello world program contains 152,570,517,485,533,290,608,442,189,665,495,821,647,629,752,124,269,350,649,720,544,795,330,670,304,842,157,265,582,311,948,436 As if you're curious. -~~~"
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> 1733438451 854486 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Fazaazafg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147566&oldid=109761 5* 03Fazaazafg 5* (+22) 10
> 1733438579 925708 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147567&oldid=144285 5* 03B jonas 5* (+799) 10/* Retro style hardware */ new section
> 1733438751 972119 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/last edit14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147568 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+437) 10Created page with "{{lowercase}} every user has a last edit. most people dont try and think about it too much, but it will always happen to us someday. someday we will fix our last typo. someday we will create our last article. someday we will categorize our last l
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> 1733446593 406719 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Rottytooth 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Wikipedia A Programming Language Is.png10]]": Programming Language entry on Wikipedia after run through bookmarklet
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> 1733530688 638927 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Corbin 5*  10moved [[02User talk:Scratch10]] to [[Talk:Scratch]]: Wrong namespace for a language. (The associated joke user account is not mine.)
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< 1733542004 124555 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Are there any languages that do the Cheese Shop sketch? I'm reminded of it because "Albuquerque" has a variant with donuts.
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< 1733571427 315943 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: indeed, that kind of fork. and also multiple file relations in it (i.e. directories)
< 1733571443 70284 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :a file should also be a directory, always
< 1733571462 175881 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :a stream of bytes file should also be a directory*
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< 1733577051 275942 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: I am ambivalent about those [forks].  They have some uses.  And like ais523 says, they're only useful when understood by many programs, eg. when you can tell your file manager to copy a file and it will transparently (possibly with the help of the OS) copy all the forks or directory structure under it.  So it's certainly hard to introduce
< 1733577051 775712 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :them to an existing system, where people will accidentally use the existing copying tools which will lose the forks.  (Unless of course you think that's a feature because you want to store hidden information for copy protection or DRM.)  And some things are inconvenient to store in a single regular file and easier to store in a directory
< 1733577052 291352 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :structure.  On the other hand, everyone already knows how to copy a directory recursively.  So why not just use a directory for this purpose, why would it also have to look like a regular file at the same time?  I know one reason, but it's rather minor: the Windows built-in Open and Save dialog doesn't work well if the file that you want to open
< 1733577052 775060 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :is actually a directory.
< 1733577208 433762 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But people keep reinventing more restricted versions of forks, I think Win32 has at least two of those reinventions, linux has xattr, zip and many other older archive formats have comments for individual files and the whole archive.  So maybe we should just add the full version to avoid getting even more incompatible reinventions.
< 1733578155 624930 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: so we can have foo.lua/bar.lua, instead of foo/bar.lua + foo.lua or similar alternatives
< 1733578197 798629 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: ok, but why is that better?
< 1733578209 866275 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :if a module is a submodule of another module *let us put the module in the module dammit*
< 1733578235 225699 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is #esolangs you'd think the folks here would understand putting a module in a module
< 1733578246 465025 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :(no shade)
< 1733578264 723759 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :why couldn't you represent modules by a directory?
< 1733578279 285151 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: not #esolangs enough
< 1733578327 267008 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :okay here's the deal, we're gonna make a programming language that runs modules from http (exclusively), and requires you to set up a webserver that can serve foo.whatever and foo.whatever/bar.whatever correctly
< 1733578351 931795 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :how does that sound
< 1733578407 963878 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :it'll also let you have arbitrary strings as module names, within the limitations set forth by http (we think you aren't allowed to have newlines or NULs in http filenames?)
< 1733578409 889306 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that already exists, it's a browser.
< 1733578429 208990 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :technically it can also run code from local file system, but doesn't support proper access management for that.
< 1733578451 615919 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: a browser doesn't enforce serving files as foo.js/bar.js
< 1733578490 393881 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :huh? what does enforcing that mean?
< 1733578514 913864 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :like, what are you enforcing?
< 1733578566 731274 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :we're enforcing that an import for module "foo" submodule "bar" will look for a file named foo.whatever/bar.whatever
< 1733578592 922921 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :so if you wanna have module foo, and module foo submodule bar, you need both foo.whatever to be a valid byte stream, and foo.whatever/bar.whatever to be a valid byte stream
< 1733578609 497671 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :and since OS doesn't support that, you can use http instead
< 1733578618 765759 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but what does "submodule" mean apart from that they're named like that?
< 1733578688 899663 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a module contained within another module, like in python or rust or lua (note that only python and rust put submodules within the namespace of their parent modules, lua submodules are independent)
< 1733578769 430570 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure maybe ppl will just call their modules foo_bar instead of using submodules
< 1733578777 821708 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :but so what, this is still #esolangs
< 1733578985 451799 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :what is the point of esoteric programming language if not doing things because we can?
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< 1733588434 984671 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: It's important to not mix up addressing (what URLs do) and layout on disk (what filesystems do).
< 1733588459 991320 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :A module can be a submodule in multiple different ways. Should it be available via many different addresses?
< 1733588507 451621 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Also most languages that support HTTP imports also support addressing by content; a module is usually going to be canonically identified by a cryptographic hash.)
< 1733588648 743725 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: it's important to recognize that URIs contain paths
< 1733588942 292160 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: Some do. Some are key-value dictionaries. Some are hashes with a hint about how to resolve them.
< 1733588977 177797 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, http uris do at least
< 1733589000 857261 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I think that the second point is the more important one. In e.g. Java, your scheme arises naturally because of (anonymous) inner classes; each class gets compiled to its own file, but the paths of inner classes can be understood as dependent upon their outer classes.
< 1733589014 900330 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's not use sites or import sites, but definition sites.
< 1733589123 52589 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: I guess a guiding question might be: are you hoping for something closer to JAR, or something closer to WASM? How much does module identity matter? Can modules be instantiated repeatedly? Is there a reason to avoid content addressing?
< 1733589156 484857 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: something closer to python or lua
< 1733589170 159856 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Last time I went through this exercise, I used WASM for code, and I had two HTTP routes. One route was a POST for creating new modules, and one was a GET that took hashes and returned hashed modules.
< 1733589199 444663 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: Oh. Those languages don't exactly have modules; Python has per-module dicts and Lua has per-module tables, but they don't decompose cleanly.
< 1733589225 647696 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :they have module file lookup systems
< 1733589230 781423 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :(import/require systems)
< 1733589236 807315 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like, if order of imports matters, then it's probably not real modules.
< 1733589237 519705 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :which is all that matters here really
< 1733589268 177490 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :alternatively, rust
< 1733589345 730921 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :alternatively alternatively, we use a funny naming convention in elixir where we put the filesystem files under e.g. connection.ex.d/registration.ex since elixir doesn't care about filenames
< 1733589351 483730 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Rust and Java use their packages to achieve modularity. A Rust crate or a Java package provides a unifying namespace and a compilation barrier. Both are oriented around the idea that programmers get to choose their module names.
< 1733589367 609937 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :what about a rust "mod foo;"
< 1733589380 479303 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The word "module" doesn't denote modules.
< 1733589429 205104 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Language designers haven't taken the concept seriously enough. They have mastered the idea of compilation units, but not modules. Languages like C++ and JS took multiple tries to get working modules, and arguably C++ still hasn't figured it out.
< 1733589430 480961 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :why do we even point out what we're basing on
< 1733589455 462514 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Y'all can do whatever you want. I'm not stopping you. I'm just providing context.
< 1733589469 593920 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :you're ignoring what we're saying
< 1733589555 580570 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Really? I'm trying seriously to understand "putting a module in a module". I'm thinking both about systems with first-class modules like SML, and systems where each module is a compilation unit like WASM.
< 1733589597 47016 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :what about systems like rust where you can write "mod foo { mod bar { fn foo() { println!("this is foo::bar::foo()"); } } }"
< 1733589633 665916 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The namespace doesn't make the modularity. The isolation (in this case, via crates) is important.
< 1733589641 451479 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Python and C++ namespaces aren't modules.
< 1733589647 936410 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :"mod" stands for "module"
< 1733589682 872900 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"module" also means "vector space over a semiring". Appeals to dictionaries don't help here.
< 1733589737 899617 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :we mean "rust claims the "mod" keyword introduces a new "module", which is usually placed in a separate file identified by the name of the module plus the .rs extension"
< 1733589739 958528 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :What I'm saying is that a module isn't merely a compilation unit. It's a parameterizable isolated hunk of open code which is repeatedly instantiated with other modules in a tree/graph to create a specialized program.
< 1733589765 969465 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that's not the module we're talking about
< 1733589771 267703 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :C++'s "modules" are its templates. Rust's "modules" are its crates and macros.
< 1733589800 866242 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey, wasm has modules too
< 1733589813 784360 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :(your meaning of modules)
< 1733589826 404467 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Uh conflicting uses of "module" detected.
< 1733589831 334339 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :To first order, yes. WASM was designed fairly recently, and they learned from mistakes.
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< 1733589853 883047 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(compilation unit vs. something closer to ML functors)
< 1733589857 709311 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: yes, we don't know how to fix this
< 1733589874 532958 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :... fine we'll call them compilation units
< 1733589915 404281 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :we want our compilation units to be laid out in a path in an "impossible" way
< 1733589922 310534 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Yeah sorry, they're going to have to clash. ML functors are shadows of a genuine category of modules, while most other systems only allow a DAG of compositions. I'm thinking of "ML-style" and I guess "CLU-style" modules?
< 1733589974 967674 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: That's much easier. The hard part of compilation units is gluing them together after they're compiled; compiling each individual file on disk is a straightforward and fun exercise.
< 1733590014 125736 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :okay, so let's say we have a bytecode format
< 1733590041 701454 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Let's clash some more: real modules have rings.
< 1733590080 58849 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :... actually we don't even know anymore, thanks for making us confused about terminology to the point where we can't talk about it we guess?
< 1733590082 870552 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :(sigh)
< 1733590084 625852 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( see also: modular arithmetic )
< 1733590097 763238 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :(was that deliberate?)
< 1733590136 147375 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :... wait maybe we can still do this
< 1733590188 214282 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Ha! Lovely pun. Yeah, you may be right; I don't remember whether modules are over rings or semirings. I was always frustrated at this nomenclature because it feels like folks want to fix their field/ring/semiring and forget it, but want to remember whether we have modules or vector spaces.
< 1733590259 71150 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: Sorry for being confusing. I've done several periods of research into modules, particularly for object-oriented languages, and one of my main lessons was that language authors don't know what modules are.
< 1733590293 770935 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :we want a require() function that takes names (in the form of arbitrary strings), these names are then interpreted to form a path of (source/binary) files to instantiate (in a singleton way), in a way that's impossible to represent on a traditional filesystem/OS: when require("foo", "bar") is called, the file foo is instantiated first, and then the file bar under the file foo (and this is the key to making it impossible on a traditional OS/
< 1733590293 809117 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :filesystem)
< 1733590305 867920 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it also supports virtual filesystems and search paths, including via http
< 1733590317 886668 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: this helps?
< 1733590368 539393 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: Yeah, except for the two obvious issues. First, why want something impossible? Second, this sounds like it can be encoded with traditional files, and you'd have to deliberately make it jank to make it impossible.
< 1733590388 480032 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm in a worse situation than language authors now. I don't know what a module is *twice*. I don't know what properties korvo thinks defines a module, and what properties Soni cares about here.
< 1733590439 500690 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Schema languages, e.g. Capn Proto, support importing other schemata by hash. The Capn Proto compiler doesn't know how to read anything from the filesystem, but it knows how to call target-specific helpers which can do target-specific filesystem shenanigans.
< 1733590459 114412 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So modularity is not Capn's problem, but implemented by each target harness.
< 1733590540 162062 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: I bet we agree on first-order modularity, where everything is a first-order procedure and we can add procedures to our namespace with metasyntax, two-tiered syntax, or directives/pragmas. I bet Soni agrees on that, too.
< 1733590554 445086 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: first, because this is esolangs. we don't really need an explanation, we want it because we want it. tho if you want the long explanation it comes from recognizing that the way we encode paths is a form of domain-specific language (URIs are also a DSL btw but at least they have escapes) and recognizing that typed APIs do not need to use such inefficient and overly restrictive information transfer formats (just take an array of strings like a
< 1733590554 526997 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs : normal API).
< 1733590569 7747 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think we agree on the nature of side effects, higher-order modules, or parameterization.
< 1733590589 843573 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :secondly, if deliberately making it jank is necessary to drive the point home, then deliberately making it jank is what we'll do
< 1733590655 295006 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :the only reason we don't take an array of strings is that early filesystems didn't have directories
< 1733590659 400622 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: I'm not demanding an explanation~ Don't worry about convincing me that your idea is good. That's not what I'm here for.
< 1733590681 778073 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :(can you believe we're stuck with 40+ years old legacy)
< 1733590723 959358 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :BTW have you seen Tcl? This row-of-strings dispatch sounds familiar.
< 1733590749 102882 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :we have not, no
< 1733590777 570795 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :macOS has its own legacy with the : aka / thing
< 1733590788 799227 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :which we'd argue is even worse tbh
< 1733590916 453042 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: Okay. So, here's a sketch of a proof that y'all's require() can't work. Let require() be a black-box function from a list of strings to a list of path segments, which might not be strings but are still hashable bytes.
< 1733590958 459180 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Then there's a universal system for storing those paths. Hash the path and derive a filename from the hash. git is an example system which supports any DAG this way.
< 1733590993 310989 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So I think that "impossible" is probably the wrong thing to want. Which is good! I presume that ya
< 1733591001 756542 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*that y'all actually want to *implement* this at some point.
< 1733591936 819804 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :"impossible" is in quotes for a reason 
< 1733591951 1583 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is trivial in http 
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< 1733595550 196494 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: You're right. I'm sorry for being so negative.
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< 1733598166 166562 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: IIUC Soni argued that if we make regular files also directories, and we do this early enough in the operating system so that all the file copy or download tools handle it transparently, then we can group related files under a file as directory entries. I argued that that's usually not really better than representing objects with just directories rather than regular files. Hashing paths to 
< 1733598172 133985 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :filenames is counterproductive to this task, because then it's hard or impossible to find groups of related files.
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< 1733598299 470269 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :What makes them related? Is it just human opinion, or is it structures inside some files?
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< 1733598927 671594 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I don't understand the submodule thing that Soni says; I was mostly thinking of application file formats such as video game saves or databases that you usually only access with just one specific program, or, say, a Microsoft Word document that has jpegs embedded, but are more conveniently stored in multiple files than in one file, possibly because the user might want to access the subfiles, or it 
< 1733598933 979594 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :helps version control, or you're doing a lot of large updates that don't replace everything but leave large parts of data that are no longer valid and if it was in a single file you'd otherwise punch a sparse file hole or something to reclaim (does Windows support that these days by the way?)
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< 1733599017 796734 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure. The pattern of a directory for a project, rather than a file for a document.
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< 1733600343 688750 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :y'all aren't much fun
< 1733600366 156283 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :(also we fell asleep, hi again)
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< 1733601169 692441 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, that's fair.
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< 1733603959 253770 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :In Advance The Wheel!, it appears that partial evaluation should be able to fully evaluate any known queues, and the main obstacle is that a residual program needs to start with The Wheel in A, which requires that all control flow in the residue is somehow synchronized at the end.
< 1733604043 205321 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But Turing-completeness of ATW! implies that there's no computable way to synchronize The Wheel. Or, um. I just lost my train of thought.
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< 1733605138 954418 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :New train pulled into the station. Why should The Wheel start at A? I mean, it's nice and all, but as a musician I can't help but rotate it. For example, starting in the "key" of F, The Wheel's got a nice NOP pattern: NOP, 1, NOP, 2, NOP, 3, repeat.
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< 1733606161 795796 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :About regular files are also directories, my idea is that files can contain bytes as well as links to other files. There are no file names (although a file can contain a key/value list mapping names to links, or whatever other structure you want for the links). This is not quite the same but is similar.
< 1733606211 729295 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :About embedding stuff in other files, and application file formats, etc, I had considered stuff like that also and had decided to make Common Data Format; it can include opaque data but also many kind of structured data, so many data can be shared between programs better.
< 1733606328 785716 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :However, such a hyperlinked system can have some issues e.g. with hashing and transfering to other disks etc, but I had also considered it, that a interchange format that is used for the package manager (and other things) that can put multiple files represented together into one file, including queries for finding external files that might be linked when installed (by whatever criteria you want to use).
< 1733606637 440172 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Some programming languages do have a separate type for file names than text strings, I think.
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< 1733606691 44210 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I think Lisp does, and I think BTRON provides a type to use for this purpose in a C header file)
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< 1733660101 111765 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: so the starting position of The Wheel was chosen so that it would start with a conditional – the language is intended to golf a self-interpreter so it has to be good at writing interpreters, and the main loop of an interpreter has to start with a conditional because it's trying to work out what command to run
< 1733660138 804754 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the letters are arbitrary, given that they exist only for talking about the language rather than being part of the language itself, so calling the first command A made sense just alphabetically
< 1733660295 983030 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: with your hyperlinked file format, I think it might make sense to distinguish between links that "own" their target (in much the same way as a directory owns the files within) and links that merely reference their target; this distinction has often been useful in practice, and it lets you implement, e.g., a recursive delete without accidentally deleting everything on the filesystem
< 1733660347 916881 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Rich Burlew posted an OOTS comic with alt text on BlueSky
< 1733660374 34557 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: so would this be refcounted and those links are like a reference and a weak reference? or they're both references?
< 1733660404 199791 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: Oh no will BlueSky survive that massive data dump?
< 1733660432 626741 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the non-owning links are like weak references, yes – the owning ones are like strong references or possibly even "unique" references (in the sense that they are the only strong reference, but weak references are still allowed)
< 1733660582 813607 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
> 1733660629 117241 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147766&oldid=147720 5* 03Prajwal S N 5* (+63) 10Add required missing cells for shortest hello world
< 1733660635 883868 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( hyperlinked file format - reinventing OLE? )
< 1733660697 246090 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so when a process has a file descriptor open to a file, would it also be allowed to choose if that file descriptor holds a strong or weak reference, and if it's weak and the file is garbage-collected then calls like read/write fail, but if you map the file you need the reference to be strong?
< 1733660899 612867 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, QC has not resurfaced yet.
< 1733660932 372435 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or is that a local problem just for me...
< 1733661016 16012 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Damn, it is. IOW Cloudflare fucked up.
< 1733661341 840185 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I imagine that in practice, processes would almost always want a strong reference to the files they open
< 1733661395 704020 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm – it crosses my mind that the reason that my first thought was to ban multiple in-filesystem references to a file is probably the same reason that UNIXalikes tend to disallow hardlinks to directories
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< 1733663445 994302 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: more importantly, unix doesn't have cross-filesystem links, and that restriction is especially useful if you want to reference count with references to a network file system
< 1733663798 508728 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: yes
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< 1733673676 606644 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Cool, thanks. I know that The Wheel's letters are arbitrary, but I'm thinking about a partially-evaluated ATW! where The Wheel doesn't always start in the starting position, and the letters are useful for that.
< 1733673692 202750 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"thinking" is doing a lot of lifting there. It's on my mind.
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> 1733680532 532507 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0711001000010011011001014]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147790 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+1277) 10Created page with "'''110010000100110110010''' is an esolang by [[User:Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff]].  == Execution ==  A 110010000100110110010 program is represented as a ser
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< 1733682269 516688 :FreeFull!~freefull@epd110.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder how many logic programming esolangs there are
< 1733682317 543159 :FreeFull!~freefull@epd110.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Backtracking_INTERCAL Oh my
< 1733682387 799101 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Every functional language can be embedded into a relational language, so it's mostly a matter of engineering a runtime that operates relationally.
< 1733684361 197859 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Your idea about "owning" files is something too, although I had considered that all links are "strong"  and there is no function to explicitly delete a file. However, I am not sure if it might be useful enough anyways.
< 1733684405 126353 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Something I had considered though is that a link can optionally be to a specific version of a file, so that if the file is modified then it is copied and the link refers to the original file.
< 1733686295 451232 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :In some systems, recently Attic for Nix, there's no way for users to control deletion of files, only deletion of names from namespaces. Nix's GC is used to delete files.
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< 1733686879 935225 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :FreeFull: I remember implementing that, ages ago
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< 1733686938 345400 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's INTERCAL, after all
< 1733686973 218884 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are very few things it's actually good at – at best you find something which it can do approximately as easily as typical modern programming languages
< 1733686983 817007 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but not things that it's much better at
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< 1733687273 324368 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(In my idea, although files cannot be deleted, you can (individually) truncate all of a file's forks to zero length (which is the same as deleting those forks), if you have permission to write to all of the file's forks. However, the normal way to delete a file would be to get rid of all references to the file.)
< 1733687442 202539 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I've been meaning to write about how garbage-collected languages still allow for use-after-free errors – the problem is that if a reference remains to something after it was supposed to be deleted, using that reference then gets you a stale object that contains old data
< 1733687472 373643 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and while it isn't as bad as undefined behaviour it usually isn't what you wanted, especially as you might expect that other things will react to you changing the object, but they don't because you now have the only reference
< 1733687906 874497 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so often, in a GC'd language, it's correct to explicitly mark an object in some way that indicates that it's no longer useful/alive, but in that case you need to know which object is responsible for doing that, which implies ownership behaviour anyway, and it's actually more work than just using precise weak references would be (i.e. the object is deleted the instant there are no strong references, without waiting for a GC delay, and the weak references are 
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< 1733688446 561801 :FreeFull!~freefull@epd110.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PRIVMSG #esolangs :You can also get "memory leaks" by accidentally holding onto references somewhere
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< 1733688991 134678 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, I am aware of such things, although there are other ways around it too (e.g. to make a object that only contains a reference to the actual object, or whatever else is appropriate for the specific program that you are writing).
< 1733689130 878117 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The OASYS text adventure system will automatically set all global references to an object to null if the object is deleted, but local references aren't automatically set to null. However, all objects in OASYS are always accessible because you can find the first object and the next object from any one.
< 1733689195 451203 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Free Hero Mesh (and MESH:Hero) do not change any references (except that it is removed from the playfield) when an object is destroyed, but its fields are still accessible during the same turn in which it is destroyed (although the object can no longer move, cannot receive messages, etc).
< 1733689270 484703 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(In MESH:Hero it will likely segfault if you try to access a destroyed object later. Free Hero Mesh detects this error accurately and will not segfault. Free Hero Mesh also allows the Destroyed flag to be read even after the turn has ended, although it is still an error to do anything else with such an object.)
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> 1733695362 298317 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0711001000010011011001014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147805&oldid=147803 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+96) 10Distinguish confusion, add categories
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> 1733729797 460981 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07InterWOEven14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147815 5* 03RacistCat 5* (+1304) 10Created page with "InterWOEven is an esoteric programming language designed to have a really unique execution style and really difficult to use. Programs in InterWOEven are, as the name suggests, just woven parentheses and brackets. = Syntax =  The program is converted to a graph. M
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< 1733770221 636953 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: What are some examples of languages that reimagine shell scripting?
> 1733770239 547012 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Several languages reimagine shell scripting, offering features beyond basic command-line interaction. **Examples:** * **Lua:** Provides a scripting language for system administration tasks, often used in conjunction with shell scripts. * **Python:** Offers powerful scripting capabilities, allowing for complex logic and data manipulation, often used...
> 1733770239 548851 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for automation. * **Ruby:** Emphasizes readability and expressiveness, making it suitable for scripting system administration tasks. * **Perl:** Known for its powerful text processing capabilities, often used for system administration and data manipulation. * **Rust:** Offers a safe and efficient way to write system-level scripts, focusing on...
> 1733770239 549213 PRIVMSG #esolangs :performance and reliability. These languages offer a more robust and expressive way to interact with the system.
< 1733770249 55796 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: What are some examples of languages that reimagine UNIX shells?
> 1733770263 549319 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Several languages reimagine the UNIX shell, focusing on different aspects: * **Lisp-based:** **Common Lisp** and **Scheme** allow for powerful scripting and macro-based manipulation of the shell's environment. * **Functional:** **Haskell** and **Clojure** offer a functional paradigm, enabling concise and expressive shell scripts. *...
> 1733770263 549654 PRIVMSG #esolangs :**Domain-specific:** Languages like **Racket** and **Erlang** provide specialized tools for system administration and automation. These languages offer unique ways to interact with the shell, often with a focus on clarity, expressiveness, and abstraction.
< 1733770291 701882 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Curious. The heavy Markdown formatting suggests that this is memorized. Probably a low-RAG response.
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> 1733770601 949366 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: [500 Internal Server Error] augmenting prompt with wiki page "Brainfuck" (961): context deadline exceeded [#628dadaf6d0db]
< 1733770684 571911 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: What are some examples of esoteric languages that reimagine UNIX shells?
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> 1733770903 279453 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Here are some examples of esoteric languages that reimagine UNIX shells: * **WalrusOS/Walc:** A calculator-focused language designed for the WalrusOS shell, utilizing RPN for expression manipulation. * **Brainfuck:** A minimalist language that uses a limited set of characters to control memory and manipulate data. * **Orca:** A language that uses a...
> 1733770903 282819 PRIVMSG #esolangs :unique character set and a simple syntax to create complex programs. * **JQuery:** While not strictly a shell language, it's a JavaScript library that can be used to manipulate the DOM and create interactive elements, offering a unique approach to web development. These languages often focus on unconventional syntax and offer a different way to...
> 1733770903 282987 PRIVMSG #esolangs :interact with the shell environment.
< 1733770972 731351 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Interesting. Bad, but interesting. Also the Markdown syntax appears to not be indicative of RAG functionality.
< 1733771012 683829 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: What's the most important theorem in category theory?
< 1733771053 583900 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This is a standard knowledge-check prompt I use to gauge the training corpus. There is only one correct answer, Yoneda's lemma.
> 1733771058 757831 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: There isn't one single "most important" theorem in category theory. It's a vast and interconnected field, and its power lies in its flexibility and ability to unify seemingly disparate concepts. However, a foundational theorem is the **Yoneda Lemma**, which establishes a powerful correspondence between objects and their morphisms. It allows us to...
> 1733771058 758139 PRIVMSG #esolangs :understand the structure of categories through their "morphisms" and their relationships.
< 1733771110 264856 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: In esoteric programming languages, what's the most important theorem in category theory?
< 1733771118 52115 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Forcing the RAG to find *something*.
> 1733771155 490682 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: The most important theorem in category theory for esoteric programming languages is the **codensity monad**. It states that every functor, when extended along itself, generates a monad. This concept is crucial for understanding how to generate semantics for languages based on categories. It's a foundational principle for exploring effects,...
> 1733771155 493198 PRIVMSG #esolangs :contexts, and other powerful abstractions in esoteric languages.
< 1733771232 491909 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, that's fairly coherent, because the RAG slurped up the English-WP-flavored pages I've written, and everybody's training includes English WP. It's remarkable how aggressively RAG distorts the response, but that's presumably what we want.
< 1733771376 933073 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The timeout is kind of a guess based on how long few queries took. I don't think large pages should always be a problem (the token limit is such that even mid-sized pages completely fill it, at which point IIRC it'll currently just keep what it can from the start and end of the page), but of course they'll definitely hit the cap.
< 1733771414 464737 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was going to make it first try selecting relevant sections (by some non-LLM fashion) before truncating the text, but didn't get around to it.
< 1733771486 87282 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Vaguely Markdown-y output seems to come quite naturally to the model (which is the instruction-tuned 2B variant of Gemma 2).
< 1733771558 950030 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The text as presented to the model goes through a really half-assed "wiki-generated HTML to plaintext" step, which also was tested on like three wiki pages and *definitely* "renders" some things completely horribly.
< 1733771702 823173 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I would also like to use a better search and ranking system than the current "prompt the LLM for a single keyword and use the default MediaWiki search on it" solution.
< 1733773957 185740 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've implemented a couple RAG search pipelines during the recent gold rush. The best technique I've seen is to chop up everything into sentences/lines, group them into overlapping paragraphs of 3-5 sentences/lines per paragraph, and build a cosine-similarity vector index on them with something like FAISS.
< 1733773993 737062 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This gives a fairly decent semantic search for cheap. The main effort was learning the concepts TBH.
< 1733774364 669149 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I suppose here there is the additional effort of indexing and searching MW, and updating that index when edits are made. One would have to either build a new index, or attach a vector index to the existing database somehow.
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> 1733777531 842499 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Die Deutsche Programmiersprache14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147837&oldid=116260 5* 03NotLe0n 5* (-31) 10update domains
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< 1733779253 494962 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :How many bits are needed for stateless-ISO-2022 encoding?
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> 1733782776 978453 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PrySigneToFry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147848&oldid=147824 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy's CA discoveries 5* (+227) 10/* Shidinn wiki */
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< 1733783871 791342 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: "What are some examples of esoteric languages that reimagine UNIX shells?" tcsh . definitely tcsh . it supports labels and goto in interactive command line, including going back to before commands that it has already executed.
< 1733783918 651396 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I haven't seen any other interpreter that does that, shell or not shell.
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< 1733785382 436913 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :One of my ideas relating to command shell (although not UNIX but a different operating system design), is that objects can be moved between the command window and other windows.
< 1733785472 360025 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :For example, you could write a loop and put a command button from a GUI window into the loop, so that the command that button represents will be executed during the loop. Another case is using a data table in another window, to make commands in the command window to sort, filter, etc the data.
< 1733785603 745078 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Another thing would be that the command shell uses the same Common Data Format (which is somewhat like ASN.1 DER, but with many different types, and also a little bit like TRON Application Databus) as most other stuff in the system, allowing them to be used together with other things in many ways (including the data example above, but also such things like i18n).
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< 1733791687 240569 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Had such trouble with today's part 1 in Burlesque. Both two first attempts (using the SetAt builtin to update the list) worked for the example but were infeasibly slow on the actual input; the second even somehow used multiple gigabytes of memory, probably due to some subtlety of the Burlesque interpreter that I'm not aware of.
< 1733791706 441011 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Finally got something that runs in a practical amount of time by building a separate list of the filled-in spaces and coerce-adding it to the original to fill in the gaps.
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< 1733791775 67124 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Forgot that was there.
< 1733791807 665105 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm sure there's a much simpler way of accomplishing it but at least it works.
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> 1733810507 294036 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Reversed14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147852 5* 03None1 5* (+715) 10Created page with "'''Reversed''' is an esolang invented by [[User:None1]]. It doesn't have jumps, but its control flow can be reversed. ==Commands== It has these commands:  R: reverse control flow direction  other characters: print the character If the instruction pointer goes to the left 
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< 1733850625 380693 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...In the absence of more serious policy, I can't decide whether I'm supposed to do anything about links from non-joke pages to joke pages. I'm choosing to do nothing, but be aware that it's possible to get graffiti'd to death by teenagers.
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p
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q
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? no thanks!
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< 1733872000 234439 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: so the links have to make sense in the context of the page they're on; it certainly can make sense for a non-joke to reference a joke, but that's different from a non-joke being part of the joke
< 1733872104 76015 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Okay. Related: how do I decide whether Hyperinotoidion or similar pages should be expanded? On one hand, it could be interpreted as a non-joke which isn't a trivial BF substitution, but that would require getting rid of the joke formatting and using templates like {{stub}}.
< 1733872109 191695 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :on the BF page in particular, curation is a problem because there are so many derivatives, historically I think the plan has been to move the less interesting links to separate pages linked from the main BF page
< 1733872172 186811 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we do have a policy of "if you can't figure out what to do it is best to do nothing" and that a) has helped me keep sane and has probably been for the good of the wiki overall, but b) occasionally produces bad results in some specific cases
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< 1733872229 792155 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :at some point the wiki probably needs to collectively have a serious discussion about "pages that are jokes, as opposed to documenting jokes" – especially if there isn't an underlying language
< 1733872239 411602 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I am not sure how it would go or even what my own opinion is
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< 1733872335 714215 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :things like the 100 badly translated versions of the article about ORK are a problem, although those are slowly being moved to a pastebin which I approve of as a solution
< 1733872379 57058 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in a way, the fundamental problem is that esolangs are (or at least can be) a form of art and just about anything can be classified as, or at least viewed as, art
< 1733872402 432355 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it is hard to say "this is not esolang-related and so it's offtopic" because almost anything can be treated as though it's an esolang
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< 1733872604 184211 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :one big problem we have (which I fear I have contributed to) is that originally, people made esolangs and then documented them on the wiki (but they had a separate existence outside which could be documented), whereas nowadays most esolangs on the wiki were created for the wiki and may not exist in any sense other than the wiki page
< 1733872635 602358 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(to the extent that some users believe or have believed that you could change an esolang by changing the wiki page, which has to be some sort of logical fallacy but I'm not sure which one)
< 1733873063 49842 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You can run an art gallery without inviting graffiti. (Feel free to stretch the metaphor: outside the gallery, I think graffiti is lovely and important.)
< 1733873144 584943 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(a) yeah, it's real easy for me to do nothing. (b) if I make the mistake of clicking on Special:Random a few times, I usually take psychic damage; it's not rewarding like English WP or other wikis.
< 1733873203 202940 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: well, Esolang intentionally has low standards for inclusion because it was founded as a response to esolang-related content being deleted from Wikipedia – I think an art gallery with similarly low standards to ours *would* accept graffiti
< 1733873220 54003 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although it'd be sorted separately from the rest of the art
< 1733873281 187698 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I agree, and I'd hope that I've contributed enough stubs to show that I believe in inclusionism. It's rather about the spray-painters leaving the spray-paint exhibit and redecorating parts of the main hall, so to speak.
< 1733873364 310947 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The Discord folks seem to have a culture of what's called "tagging", where a young artist earns respect by running into a condemned/dangerous/locally-legendary house and spraying their name onto a wall. I know better than to dissuade taggers directly; perhaps we could try to figure out why they think that this gives them renown.
< 1733873386 911912 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the "semi-serious language list" was a good idea but I hate the name
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< 1733873835 196029 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, the half-seriousness is a good way of thinking about it. Certainly it reminds me that I'm being too serious.
< 1733873901 633819 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :most of my esolang-related interactions are very serious, to the point that I've stopped leaving jokes in my languages except occasionally the names
< 1733873923 127276 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :most of my esolangs are tools for proving or demonstrating things, after all
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< 1733874539 672364 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I have plenty of jokier ones in my history
< 1733874617 675802 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in a way, a problem with the pure-joke esolangs is that huge numbers of them are just the same joke as each other, and it's hard to do an existing joke better than the previous versions of it
< 1733874692 192144 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. it is difficult to make a language like TURKEY BOMB but better (and in a sense, it's only a language because it says it's a language – the spec doesn't have enough detail to determine how expressions could be evaluated or commands would be run)
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< 1733876991 496916 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I was just watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrQrwmOZToc which shows bugs in the 80s toy computer Speak & math which is a companion of the Speak & spell that tries to teach arithmetic.  The weird bugs look like they might inspire someone to make a joke esolang, but I don't know if they would allow you to make a serious esolang.
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> 1733928233 602680 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Queue-based esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147982&oldid=147981 5* 03Emelang 5* (-8) 10/* Interpreters */ the online interpreter link now works, hooray!
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> 1733929780 975216 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Nope.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147987&oldid=144991 5* 03Mari 5* (+141) 10add caca's Nope. Interpereter
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> 1733931004 508670 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Caca14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147992&oldid=147991 5* 03Mari 5* (+9) 10mom! i am an esolang wiki user!
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> 1733931272 822550 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Mari14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147994 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+179) 10Created page with "you eat sand~~~"
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> 1733931850 161931 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147996&oldid=147911 5* 03Hexahedron1 5* (+191) 10
< 1733932084 634605 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :An unusually amusing spam email subject line today: "Elon Musk TERRIFIES Church Leaders (proof inside)"
< 1733932100 604701 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Did not look at the proof.)
> 1733932643 636280 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolangs14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=147997&oldid=145785 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+39) 10distinguish from [[Esolangs.org]]
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> 1733932946 559191 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Hexahedron114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=147999 5* 03Hexahedron1 5* (+45) 10Created page with "I actually do not know how to describe myself"
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> 1733933568 334108 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148001&oldid=147945 5* 03Jan jelo 5* (+18) 10/* D */
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this is where i plan my esolangs and stuff  == is this even an esolang anymore? == === Syntax === [] is required, <> is optional(ish?) 
 init [var,subr,func]   [name] [contents] do [functio
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> 1733934539 17080 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Emelang/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148006&oldid=148005 5* 03Emelang 5* (+20) 10test
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< 1733937594 406270 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it's a good morning for having opinions about esoteric Python.
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< 1733940917 444256 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life
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> 1733945265 284698 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07I Refuse14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148041 5* 03Hexahedron1 5* (+717) 10Created page with "I Refuse is an esoteric programming language made by [[User:Hexahedron1]] that refuses to output what you wait it to and instead outputs anything but whatever you want it to.    To write a program in the language, simply enter its ''intended'' output: 
Hello, Wo
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< 1733945921 525347 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: What opinion about esoteric Python?
< 1733945986 400377 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: Recent edits I made. For LambdaPython, UnnumericPy, and Pyline, I gave examples of writing in the esoteric subset without resorting to exec/eval techniques.
< 1733946011 273964 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :For `def run(t):`, which I'm finding cuter than I should, I gave SKI combinators.
< 1733946091 33738 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Also sorry if my client ate your CTCP. I think it was a TZ query? I'm in PDT/PST, currently GMT-8, but I don't keep regular sleep/wake hours.)
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< 1733951453 450854 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is "scale x by -1" equivalent to some rotations?
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< 1733953943 895953 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry for the spam, there are a *lot* of pages like this that need deleting, there will be a lot more similar log messges
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> 1733995755 92096 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Jan jelo14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148099 5* 03Jan jelo 5* (+17) 10Created page with "Here is talk page"
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> 1734001297 407117 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Recs14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148103&oldid=148102 5* 03Jan jelo 5* (+3) 10/* Function */
> 1734001359 806943 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148104&oldid=148069 5* 03None1 5* (+288) 10/* Can you help fix this mess */
< 1734002578 262066 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wtf, why is today's AoC so "twisty" (10k : 9.3k right now)
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> 1734002795 445234 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ZCX islptng/Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148106&oldid=148105 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+55) 10
< 1734002826 294259 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(For me personally it was day 9 for no good reason... just that my part 1 solution didn't lend itself to a part 2 solution at all and I ran into a morass of indecision... I took over half an hour to sort that out. I don't have reliable times for part 1 because I'm starting late.)
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> 1734003059 691622 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Translated ORK/Translated ORK Mihai2714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148108&oldid=148040 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+204) 10
> 1734003263 97734 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148109&oldid=148104 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+1074) 10/* I'm stopped to creating new more translated ORK. */ new section
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< 1734003799 491258 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Oh I also had some bugs on day 9 and debugging is SLOW.)
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< 1734006317 884473 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, so I have an idea. I've previously thought that it would make sense to do a language that has right-aligned syntax. you write the arguments first and then the function name, or the rvalue first then the lvalue that you're assigning it to, or especially an APLlike but with the associativity backwards and the arguments of most functions swapped.
< 1734006318 372644 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and to make this natural, you use a text editor that right-aligns the lines so as you type from left to right the line moves to the left, and similarly for an interactive interpreter prompt. and this would still make sense.
< 1734006489 263593 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I just realized that there's somewhere else that I could apply right-aligned syntax that would be much more silly and esoteric. it's that hypothetical language where instead of variable names you use columns of text. in normal left-aligned syntax, the columns are counted up from a newline; in the alternative right-aligned syntax the columns are
< 1734006489 754904 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :counted down from the next newline, so the last character before a newline is in the same column in every line. unlike the case of the APL-like or calculator language, this would make it basically impossible to write with a normal left-aligned text editor or interpreter.
< 1734006695 180352 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it gets even more fun if you allow tabs, because now people won't even have the tools at hand to expand tabs and pad all the lines the same length, they'll need to write a custom tab expansion tool.
< 1734007102 935345 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :even editors like Word which support right-aligned text and tab stops separately can't handle right-aligned text with tab stops properly. you still have to count columns backwards from a newline, the newline is in column 0, printable characters are one column before the next character, and tab is one to eight columns before the next character in a
< 1734007103 435919 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :column number divisible by 8.
< 1734007148 302346 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(that's the default, the programmer may be able to define custom tab stop positions)
> 1734009587 457871 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Scott numeral14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148115 5* 03Jan jelo 5* (+1342) 10Created page with "'''Scott numeral'''(Mogensen-Scott encoding) is a representation of natural number in [[Lambda calculus]]  numbers 
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> 1734010763 263352 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Church numeral14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148120&oldid=67747 5* 03Jan jelo 5* (+3) 10/* Arithmetic */
> 1734010791 953862 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Scott numeral14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148121&oldid=148119 5* 03Jan jelo 5* (+4) 10/* Convert between Church numeral */
> 1734012211 979133 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148122&oldid=148110 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+203) 10/* About translated ORK */
> 1734012642 200579 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148123&oldid=148109 5* 03None1 5* (+363) 10/* I'm stopped to creating new more translated ORK. */
< 1734012698 180313 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :how do you test if a path is in a git repo?
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< 1734030772 656494 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Soni: The way git does it is the obvious one: it recurses through parent directories, looking for a .git/ sibling.
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< 1734034581 869328 :Soni!~quassel@sodapop.autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm okay
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< 1734035403 868290 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I don't think that's right. if I create a bare repository (one with no workspace) with (git clone --bare sourcedir destdir) then that doesn't have a .git directory but git does recognize it as a repository if you run (cd destdir; git config -l --local) 
< 1734035810 979094 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Ah, I wasn't thinking of bare repos, good point.
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< 1734043518 902781 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: it's not required if the bare repository directory is the working directory. I think you need --bare if you give an explicit --git-dir option or the equivalent environment variable instead of just letting git detect the git directory and the workspace directory from the working directory.
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< 1734047584 116735 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: I'm surprised you think Church numerals are easier to define in terms of simply typed lambda calculus, at least from the esolanging point of view untyped Church numerals are more common, and the most natural definition is probably in terms of concatenative languages
< 1734047622 580417 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :0 maps x to x composed 0 times (i.e. the identity function), 1 maps x to one composed copy of x, 2 maps x to 2 composed copies of x (x . x), 3 maps x to 3 composed copies of x (x . x . x), and so on
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< 1734063097 476980 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: It's important to me that the types be documented, and in this case, that the types offer the most meaningful constraint on behavior.
< 1734063132 200616 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I agree that the monoid-of-endomorphism nature is the best way to understand what's going on, since it leads directly into exponentiation by squaring, which I think is a very important insight.
< 1734063143 427604 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I was trying very hard to not say "endomorphism" though.
< 1734063344 802123 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, offhand I'm not sure I can even think of any esolangs which have forall X. (X → X) → (X → X) as a type
< 1734063361 778717 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :functional esolangs tend to be untyped, non-functional esolangs don't have types that complex
< 1734063427 237055 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Cammy does! Cammy has "ends", which are the category-theoretic way of expressing polymorphic types. They aren't reified, but it's possible to write functions with fully-polymorphic signatures.
< 1734063442 868632 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This is because I want expressions like `id` to have type `forall X. X → X`.
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< 1734067585 423065 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I forgot to follow through, sorry. This Cammy expression: (comp dup (curry (comp (comp (pair (comp fst fst) (pair (comp fst snd) snd)) (pair fst (comp snd (uncurry id)))) (uncurry id))))
< 1734067620 186337 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Has inferred type: [X, X] → [X, X]. (for all X, of course~)
< 1734067650 130463 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This is the Church numeral 2. 0 and 1 are also expressible but the type-checker infers less restrictive signatures for them.
< 1734067731 535536 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The reason I like the typing is that this is *the* Church numeral, up to isomorphism, by the standard pile of abstract nonsense: there's only one possible composition. If I added this type as an attitude, I could recognize exactly the Church numerals.
< 1734067751 656789 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Er, *the* Church numeral 2, of course.
< 1734067786 504658 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah right – in a way I'm a little surprised that there are no things of Church numeral type except the Church numerals
< 1734067822 679265 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it does make sense, if all you have is an X → X and you don't know what X is, all you can do is compose it some nonnegative integer number of times
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< 1734068104 37144 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yep. The deep explanation uses discrete dynamical systems (DDSs) and explores the mysteries of the diagram with a single object and a single arrow.
< 1734068221 992697 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This is also how category theorists think of natural numbers. A natural-numbers object (NNO) is some object N s.t. for any element 1 → X and endomorphism X → X, there's a unique N → X which starts at the given element and applies the endomorphism repeatedly.
< 1734068252 728789 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I grew up with impure languages without capabilities, which make it hard to do this sort of reasoning because I'm used to worrying about the possibility of hidden global side effects
< 1734068255 75461 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hence Cammy's (pr @0 @1) : N → X, given @0 : 1 → X, @1 : X → X
< 1734068295 264958 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure, me too. It took a long time, but now I see Algol descendants as operating in an implicit monad, and languages like Haskell really do offer the "programmable semicolon" by making those monads explicit.
< 1734068311 114180 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can't say whether it was a good choice. As you can see, I'm not really great at relating to peers.
< 1734068377 149873 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do think "impure, but with capabilities" is an interesting middle-ground, and it probably can be automatically transformed to the pure version by, e.g., putting the capability objects into a state monad
< 1734068548 887905 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yep. E and Monte can be seen as having a monad which allows for sending messages (but not receiving them), maintaining private mutables, and accessing certain system services safely, particularly system timers and cryptography.
< 1734068581 591160 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :E didn't actually have that formalism, but I put in most of the work for Monte at the theoretical level. The subset of Monte whose objects are all transitively immutable ("DeepFrozen") form a category.
< 1734068689 689509 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a while ago I was considering "treat functions with side effects on memory as pure functions which take the state of memory as an input and output the new state of memory in addition to their return value" as a compiler IR for practical use, to help the compiler understand what optimisations were allowed and what program equivalence was
< 1734068707 461805 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, it'd only work in a single-threaded setting because it abstracts over the details of what the function is doing internally
< 1734068780 264028 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's basically what my BF interpreter does. Each compiled action is a map (Position × Tape) → Position which impurely mutates the tape but state-monads the position.
< 1734068817 260845 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That ended up being the best shape for the JIT to trace. The JIT lifts the entire tape out and treats it as a mutable global, and the position disappears into local registers.
< 1734068876 567770 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, the state of *memory*, sorry, I misread. I haven't done that personally, but e.g. Haskell's Array subsystem works this way. If one "mutates" an Array, they are usually building up a pile of mutations which will all be applied in a single atomic update.
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< 1734076585 87325 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: What is a concatenative programming language?
> 1734076679 664804 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: A concatenative programming language is a type of language where programs are composed by juxtaposing syntax, meaning the order of code elements determines the final program's behavior. This is achieved by combining smaller expressions into larger ones, similar to how strings are concatenated. Concatenative languages are often based on the...
> 1734076679 665314 PRIVMSG #esolangs :principle of composition, where complex programs are built from simpler ones. They are characterized by the ability to combine multiple programs into a single program through the juxtaposition of their syntax.
< 1734076723 309223 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's confused enough that I can't even definitively say that it's wrong, although it did miss the key point
< 1734076753 163323 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, I'm hoping that it'll reveal to me how to give a better intro to [[concatenative language]].
< 1734076776 566107 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: there's a #concatenative channel on libera, ask them, maybe they have a better intro
> 1734077023 610969 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Simple translation14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148169&oldid=148166 5* 03Corbin 5* (+986) 10/* Thinking in terms of monoids */ Bluelink locally, grammar, rephrasing, ensuring that the proofs read cleanly.
< 1734077134 518939 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I'm a regular there. The community generally agrees that there isn't a universal definition. The categorical definition, using monoids, is nice and powerful and convenient but makes folks upset for some reason, even though it can account for e.g. the syntax of Forth and Factor.
< 1734077205 65654 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs: What is a concatenative esoteric programming language?
> 1734077297 77045 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: A concatenative esoteric programming language is a language where programs are composed by juxtaposing syntax, like strings, to create a single program. This composition is based on the idea of building larger programs from smaller ones, similar to how software engineering works. These languages often use a monoid structure, where operations like...
> 1734077297 77398 PRIVMSG #esolangs :concatenation and substitution are defined, and the meaning of a program is derived from the composition of its syntactic elements.
< 1734077313 605025 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Worse. Hm.
< 1734077360 836485 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Meh, it's not important. It's past midnight locally, I'm still recovering from food poisoning, and my feet are tired.
< 1734077366 963162 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, nobody can agree what a functional programming language or a declarative programming language is either
< 1734077632 250742 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hehe. My biggest disappointment on that front will always be Prolog. It's declared to be declarative, and it has a declarative core somewhere. But in practice you're just controlling backtracking all the time. (cut is not declarative)
< 1734077778 210901 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: more modern Prologs often have a constraint solver, which acts in a rather more declarative way than the base language
< 1734077780 254529 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I haven't used Prolog for non-toy examples as a result. Built-in unification is nice I guess but I prefer having better control over the flow of execution.)
< 1734077802 381113 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: But is that still Prolog then :)
< 1734077825 482098 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And wouldn't I rather use an SMT solver from a different language...
< 1734077841 472796 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't see why not; it isn't unextended ISO Prolog but languages often have a broad range of implementations with different features and libraries
< 1734077845 595556 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes, and that is a significant addition to the prolog core, but I still don't think it changes what int-e is complaingin about
< 1734077849 621395 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But yeah there's Prolog offsprings that look interesting from afar.
< 1734077913 707745 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, as usual with opinions ymmv :)
< 1734077993 401069 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a while back I worked out the semantics for a Prolog-inspired declarative esolang. it was similar to Prolog but tried to evaluate paths in parallel rather than with backtracking, and didn't have cuts
< 1734078469 248241 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :The typical miniKanren is built on µKanren, a specific short recipe which combines a logic monad with an immutable constraint store. They never backtrack or cut; instead, the logic monad tries many branches, and all succeeding branches move forward.
< 1734078479 209534 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It could be parallelized, maybe, with effort.
< 1734078505 642984 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so the interesting part is trying to come up with an efficient evaluation order
< 1734078523 155175 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: so... bfs instead of dfa at the search tree level?
< 1734078529 217014 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :*dfs
< 1734078566 77268 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which seems like it would be one of those problems which is impossible in theory but possible in most practical cases, but there is a nice theoretical solution that shows that it's possible (just try all the evaluation orders in parallel, one of them will be fastest and you can discard the others once it reaches the solution)
< 1734078583 506994 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, I think constraint solving has value as a paradigm and my complaint is specifically about prolog's core.
< 1734078636 932603 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Yes, but the visitor can choose whether to actually perform the visit. The constraint store is merely designed to never allow an inconsistent set of constraints.
< 1734078663 245334 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :When you put it like that, DFS would be a fun modification. The logic monad's usually written as fair BFS. Too bad Dijkstra's not feasible.
< 1734078706 802777 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Prolog is basically a DFS in that sort of environment, with the order specified precisely enough to allow cuts to work
< 1734078732 349304 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and because it is searching an infinite tree, a DFS can miss a solution by taking an infinitely long time to reach the branch where the solution exists
< 1734078772 227422 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :" The constraint store is merely designed to never allow an inconsistent set of constraints." -- start extracting unsatisfiable cores and you almost have an SMT solver
< 1734078823 695050 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but Prolog's evaluation order is undeclarative enough to basically make it an esolang, when you start exploiting the way that Prolog differs from being purely a description of the solution you want
< 1734078828 404006 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :("unsatisfiable core" is jargon for (a practically feasible approximation of) a minimal set of constraints that are contradictory)
< 1734079268 705237 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes, and also prolog has side effects, some that survive backtracking and some that are retracted on backtracking, and both the prolog core and the side effects are designed in a somewhat inconvenient way where if you try to translate a traditional imperative fortran program it always comes out ugly
< 1734079284 439733 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so that makes it even more of an esolang
< 1734079321 273136 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: wow, that description reminds me so much of CLC-INTERCAL
< 1734079344 957744 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which is/was full of features which are very reminiscent of, e.g., standard OO programming concepts, but if you try to use them the same way then things start to go subtly wrong
< 1734079478 667581 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also there are multiple dialects of prolog with the same core language but lots of incompatible extensions in their libraries
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> 1734138364 720038 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Interpret Esolangs Online14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148227&oldid=145661 5* 03None1 5* (+13) 10/* Introduction */  [[Poetic]] is now supported
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> 1734138429 434162 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148229&oldid=148173 5* 03None1 5* (+265) 10/* Interpret esolangs online */
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> 1734138867 815241 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Print("Hello, World!")14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148230&oldid=148221 5* 03None1 5* (+117) 10/* Languages */
> 1734138899 682572 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Print("Hello, World!")14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148231&oldid=148230 5* 03None1 5* (+1) 10/* Befunge */  Reversing twice is the same as not reversing
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> 1734140047 43307 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ifunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148233&oldid=148232 5* 03None1 5* (+373) 10
> 1734140125 867802 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ifunge14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148234&oldid=148233 5* 03None1 5* (+9) 10/* Interpreters */
> 1734140294 740720 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ifunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148235&oldid=148234 5* 03None1 5* (+44) 10/* Interpreters */
> 1734140672 982105 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ifunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148236&oldid=148235 5* 03None1 5* (-42) 10/* Hello World */
> 1734140691 505479 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ifunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148237&oldid=148236 5* 03None1 5* (-48) 10/* Cat Program */
> 1734140725 207398 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03None1 5*  10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Ifunge 99.png10]]": new 99 bottles of beer
> 1734140764 994996 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ifunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148239&oldid=148237 5* 03None1 5* (-32) 10/* 99 bottles of beer (Found a bug, may be modified in the future) */
> 1734140847 227972 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ifunge14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148240&oldid=148239 5* 03None1 5* (-45) 10/* 99 bottles of beer (Found a bug, may be modified in the future) */
> 1734140955 508706 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ifunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148241&oldid=148240 5* 03None1 5* (+420) 10/* Interpreters */
> 1734141398 392450 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03None1 5*  10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Ifunge 99.png10]]"
> 1734141438 330339 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ifunge14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148243&oldid=148241 5* 03None1 5* (+9) 10/* Interpreters */
> 1734145911 333700 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Albuquerque challenge/exampled to itself14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148244 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+8237) 10Created page with "the albuquerque challenge is a programming challenge is a programming challenge by [[user:tommyaweosme]] after getting 3-4 hours into a programming challenge by [[user:tommyaweosme]] after getting 3-4 hours into a 17-hour video call
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> 1734151184 324340 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ZCX islptng/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148245&oldid=148155 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+273) 10
> 1734151324 989611 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:BOREDOM14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148246 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+112) 10Created page with "
  STAMP H "H", e "e", l "l", ... STAMP print (*args, **kwargs) -> screen print (Hello, world!) 
"
> 1734152027 314427 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 bits, 0 Bytes14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148247&oldid=148179 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+136) 10
> 1734152569 667300 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:None114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148248&oldid=148229 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+24) 10/* Some questions */
> 1734153348 447358 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ZCX islptng/Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148249&oldid=148245 5* 03ZCX islptng 5* (-167) 10Then you use 
> 1734155010 64172 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ZCX islptng/Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148250&oldid=148249 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+402) 10
> 1734155048 862098 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ZCX islptng/Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148251&oldid=148250 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+45) 10
> 1734155084 513061 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ZCX islptng/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148252&oldid=148251 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+0) 10Fixed script
> 1734155663 836171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ZCX islptng/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148253&oldid=148252 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+286) 10
> 1734159546 736941 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Deadfish with gotos and input14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148254 5* 03Win7HE 5* (+131) 10Created page with "ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff, f? f."
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> 1734160255 53848 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Treadnil14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148255&oldid=147512 5* 03BoundedBeans 5* (-96) 10No more timeplane execution with IO's F variant
> 1734160347 530971 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Deadfish but its tilted a bit10]]": duplicate page (same content as [[Deadfish]] but different formatting)
> 1734160376 313391 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Deadshark but its tilted a bit10]]": duplicate page (same content as [[Deadshark]] but different formatting)
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> 1734162076 415411 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mobius brainfuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148257 5* 03L4.m2 5* (+533) 10Created page with "Mobius brainfuck is like brainfuck with finite unbounded cells. After one circle every number turns into its opposite. This allows to use only increment to decrease without wrap.  ==Instructions==  {| class="wikitable" |+ Caption text |- ! Char !! Equivalent C |- 
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> 1734166921 39552 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Slimey14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148258 5* 03Win7HE 5* (+29) 10Created page with "hey you forgot the categories"
> 1734166937 927371 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Slimey14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148259&oldid=148258 5* 03Win7HE 5* (+18) 10
> 1734167047 100507 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Win7HE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148260&oldid=147899 5* 03Win7HE 5* (+40) 10thing
> 1734167068 744692 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Win7HE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148261&oldid=148260 5* 03Win7HE 5* (+11) 10
> 1734167217 795242 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadshark14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148262&oldid=146768 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* Example Program */
> 1734167596 326182 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148263&oldid=148206 5* 03Xff 5* (+1226) 10/* research */
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> 1734167771 841893 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Xff 5*  10moved [[02Brainrot10]] to [[Brainrot (Theothetruenerd)]]: i made an esolang with same name and like it isnt the most popular ever
> 1734167785 43421 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainrot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148267&oldid=148266 5* 03Xff 5* (-40) 10Blanked the page
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> 1734168132 831507 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainrot (Yayimhere)14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148269 5* 03Xff 5* (+1294) 10Created page with "'''brainrot''' is an esolang based on the evolution of television and the crisis of "OMG gen Z is doomed" when thye had the same with every other fricking gen, so basically its just saying "gen z not doomed lol".  a, b and c are strings, with all of them being 
> 1734168258 306384 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Outinp14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148270 5* 03Win7HE 5* (+1289) 10Created page with "Outinp is an esolang created by [[User:Win7HE]], not made for code golfing and probably turing complete.  ==Commands==  Any # can be replaced by a diffrent character. Any $ can be a comment, or empty.  out##### - outputs the #'s.  inp##### - asks you for 5 character input
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> 1734170780 783240 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07The Genetic Computer14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148274&oldid=148224 5* 03Theonetruenerd 5* (+100) 10Updated with new codons, changed "hello" program to "Hello, World!"
> 1734170799 41283 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Brainrot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148275&oldid=148271 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+212) 10
> 1734171363 444543 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07The Genetic Computer14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148276&oldid=148274 5* 03Theonetruenerd 5* (+46) 10Added code for truth machine
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> 1734171513 213103 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Outinp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148279&oldid=148270 5* 03Win7HE 5* (+12) 10
> 1734171524 321968 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Outinp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148280&oldid=148279 5* 03Win7HE 5* (+0) 10/* Hello World */
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> 1734176042 841052 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07The kids choice awards14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148286&oldid=148283 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* Outinp */
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> 1734188149 821545 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Jan jelo/TC proof to partial recursive function14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148291&oldid=148190 5* 03Jan jelo 5* (+0) 10/* proof */
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> 1734191619 321321 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0716x16 RGB2 panel14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148293 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+1036) 10Created page with "16x16 RGB2 panel is a non-turing compete language based on build logic. == commands == === mode changing ===  set position mode  increment mode === set position mode ===  + increase value  } increase color  - decrease value  { decrease color  > brainfuck >
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> 1734197719 728423 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Divmeq14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148301&oldid=145510 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (+290) 10Added a squaring program
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> 1734199271 840867 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02C-like language10]] to [[Hashmark]]
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> 1734206795 531478 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07How dare you fuck the brain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148312&oldid=148311 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+217) 10added argument support. even tho there's only 1 argument
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> 1734350279 878091 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:AGO06114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148389 5* 03AGO061 5* (+137) 10Added my wiki page
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> 1734353708 671068 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:ZCX islptng14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148393&oldid=148130 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+223) 10/* I'll made an Esolang that make Funge-98 in Chinese! */ new section
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> 1734355573 881158 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ZCX islptng/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148395&oldid=148385 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+907) 10
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> 1734386477 160509 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:CBA14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148401 5* 035anz 5* (+53) 10Created page with "Chess battle advanced. -~~~~~"
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> 1734424398 862482 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Parigot numeral14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148409 5* 03Jan jelo 5* (+1551) 10Created page with "A '''Parigot numeral''' is a natural number encoded into [[Lambda calculus]]. It is related to primitive recursion. In the parigot numeral,there are 
 0 g h = h (succ n) g h = g n (n g h) 
 and let R(g,h) be a primitive recursive function 
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< 1734427551 699142 :myname!~myname@v2202404221793264578.bestsrv.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :ugh, my keyboard remapping is not behaving how i wish it does
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< 1734429306 293212 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://zem.fi/misc/aoc/twist.html <- 2024 day 17, a new record. :)
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< 1734434662 500700 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I stayed under 1h after starting (I'm *not* getting up at 6am for this this year)
< 1734434679 766637 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So it went okay but I should've disassembled sooner. :P
< 1734437016 689838 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :5am for me, and not getting up either.
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< 1734437061 960925 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not sure how long it took after opening the puzzle page, was doing breakfast and other morning things in parallel.
< 1734437141 35385 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not really tracking that either... the timestamp of the `input` file may be close enough.
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< 1734437324 246719 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There was some chatter on the web that the site should have a "from your first visit to solution submission" timer, of course it'd still be on the honour system but it would make it easier for people who want to try doing it fast. (I'm not one of them.)
< 1734437609 434436 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess you might guess from the instruction set (and/or watching register values on the example) that it's going to be some sort of "shift down by 3" kind of a loop, and then come up with a semi-generic solution search that just executes the program, without disassembling it. But I just started with that.
< 1734437775 855802 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :In my case I found /a/ solution with a black-box approach but it was too large.
< 1734437857 651760 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(for my input there are 22 possible starting values for A)
< 1734439139 755849 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah wow, why did I search for the input from the low end instead of the high end...
< 1734439211 535532 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Well, I know why: I was worried there'd be state affecting later computations. But I didn't switch direction after disassembling the program.)
< 1734440176 952585 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Usually I give up on Burlesque around day 21 or so, but this time I only got up to day 5 (and day 9 part 1). :/
< 1734440194 472992 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I blame videogames, I've been playing the space game.)
< 1734440206 995387 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :haha, "the"
< 1734440210 182100 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Er, not the space age space game.
< 1734440316 189299 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :("Everyone else" has been doing Factorio: Space Age, but I just started Elite: Dangerous a couple of months ago.)
< 1734441282 878928 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION has only watched streamers play Space Age

< 1734441317 355974 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so much to juggle
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< 1734441342 774865 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(well they're trying to speedrun which makes it worse)
< 1734442252 715675 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A number of people took vacation for the launch week, so it must be pretty big deal, that's all I know.
< 1734442636 238474 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a substantial expansion to an already big game'
> 1734442704 880525 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07I/D machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148415&oldid=146185 5* 03Jan jelo 5* (+503) 10/* Implementations */
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> 1734444990 386011 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07'Brainfuck' is not recognized14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148417&oldid=147948 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-134) 10Redirected page to [[How dare you fuck the brain]]
> 1734445021 797756 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148418&oldid=148317 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-35) 10/* Stuff to continue */
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> 1734445638 972719 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Poetic (Mihai Popa)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148421&oldid=148326 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+272) 10
> 1734445796 125370 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07License plate language14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148422 5* 03None1 5* (+352) 10Created page with "{{WIP}} '''License plate language''' is an esolang invented by User:None1. Programs are concatenations of first 2 characters in Chinese (inland) license plates.  ==Commands== They are like this:  ''command'' ''argument'' The command is a Chinese character, w
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> 1734451377 404843 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07License plate language14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148430&oldid=148422 5* 03Aadenboy 5* (+4) 10link
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< 1734454261 362242 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I'm not sure what you mean by "everyone else" because as far as I'm aware I'm the only one on esolangs who plays Factorio Space Age, even though you'd expect more people here to play it
< 1734454302 38870 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's why I didn't add it to https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:B_jonas#Games_that_the_esolangs_community_plays
< 1734454389 176028 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's kind of weird, it's a programming game, people here play programming games, why isn't the whole channel playing Factorio? a few people might be deliberately avoiding it because it's a big addictive timewaster, but that's not something I expect all of #esolangs to do
< 1734455586 428830 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, I don't have an explanation for why I never got into it at all. But by "everyone else" I meant people around the office and so on.
< 1734455739 894403 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well it's not too late. they released a lot of improvements into the game besides the expansion, so now might be the best time to get into it.
< 1734455808 358249 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or maybe a few months from now is the best time when some of the changes after the big upgrade stabilize
< 1734455893 910328 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably now, the following few changes won't matter too much
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> 1734460040 169003 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BFInfinity14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148435&oldid=148434 5* 03   5* (-203) 10There's already that command
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> 1734465008 641224 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Church numeral14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148438&oldid=148413 5* 03Corbin 5* (+125) 10Explicitly link to the alternatives, as it seems like Church numerals are widespread enough to mistakenly appear as ''the'' choice when they are only one possibility.
> 1734465499 196916 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07The Genetic Computer14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148439&oldid=148297 5* 03Theonetruenerd 5* (+824) 10Added meaning of all currently defined codons, changed format to table. Updated some example code.
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> 1734467074 579851 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Afterstar14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148442 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+3022) 101st of my 2 languages this year. A minimal division/multiplication language.
> 1734468876 252457 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Convalescent14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148443 5* 03Keymaker 5* (+3244) 102nd of my 2 languages this year... A two-character, two-instruction language powered by prime factors.
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> 1734470209 952720 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:4714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148445 5* 0347 5* (+123) 10Created page with "alt account of [[User:Ractangle]]. This account exists because of a vandal in the progressmod95 wiki but the name of muvert"
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> 1734478787 596387 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ZCX islptng/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148450&oldid=148419 5* 03ZCX islptng 5* (+14) 10
> 1734478889 497386 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ZCX islptng/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148451&oldid=148450 5* 03ZCX islptng 5* (-231) 10/* Data types */
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 The pointer takes a box with it. Items are unbounded.
 We're
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< 1734627504 712874 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`blsq "wurbg"XX{**J3&&j4./4&&||}m[ " using the fact that these are distinct for convenience today "vv
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< 1734627627 436583 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :> map (\c -> fromEnum c `mod` 9 `div` 2) "wurbg"
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< 1734627694 60917 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait, they're distinct modulo 6 even. but maybe you don't want 0
< 1734627714 899550 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION still doesn't know burlesque

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< 1734628024 334001 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wanted something bitwise for speed, and it was for Go rather than Burlesque. :)
< 1734628044 761093 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah
< 1734628083 189002 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Though I did look at modulo a few small numbers too and still missed that somehow.)
< 1734628110 897182 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :That'd be better for code size in Burlesque certainly.
< 1734628133 577842 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Though if I get around to doing it I'll probably stick to the actual characters.)
< 1734628208 279326 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`blsq "wurbg"XX{**6.%}m[ " just checking "vv
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< 1734628460 103618 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Had four iterations of the Go solution today, with runtimes of 23.6 ms, 3.0 ms, 0.53 ms and 0.32 ms.
< 1734628487 253130 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Since the question itself wasn't exactly complicated, had to extract some content out of it somehow.
< 1734628525 955293 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Guessing the AIs found it quite easy as well, since the top time for the first star is 6 seconds.
< 1734629075 42994 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'd like to know how many wrong LLM-"generated" answers the platform receives in the first minute or so.
< 1734629089 742789 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But it's probably impossible to say.
< 1734629358 90658 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I could send a HTTP request every second for the first five minutes, measure the latency, and use that as a proxy for how busy the site gets, but that might be a little impolite. ;)
< 1734629484 459107 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Already a bit uneasy about re-fetching the /stats page every 5 minutes for that other set of charts, but I think once every 5 minutes is okayish.
< 1734629537 254052 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah that does sound rather impolite
< 1734629737 588124 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Actually now that I look at my stats data, there's actually already a gap, the first entry is 1 Dec 05:05am UTC, and then it goes every 5 minutes up to 2 Dec 04:55am, but then the next row is 05:10am.
< 1734629810 815373 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe those timed out. :)
< 1734629823 667752 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a plausible assumption :)
< 1734630411 978607 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :As it happens, I record both the nominal timestamp and the time I actually finished fetching the stats page in the file; eyeballing the numbers it looks like there isn't much of a difference for the 05:00 fetch in latency, except for the two missed 05:00 updates and the one missed 05:05 one: https://0x0.st/XCLG.txt
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> 1734657181 37948 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tile14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148552&oldid=147574 5* 03Dtp09 5* (-1809) 10removed segment about save codes (as they have been updated), updated program save codes to use newer format, changed infinite loop warning on truth machine
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> 1734657540 762124 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tile/Update Log14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148554&oldid=133969 5* 03Dtp09 5* (+527) 10merry christmas
> 1734658260 273166 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Mornington Crescent14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148555&oldid=148553 5* 03Pppery 5* (+191) 10/* Computational class */ +
< 1734661975 338318 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement
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< 1734673062 51087 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :What is the proper conversion between D&D money and Lsd money?
> 1734675430 82148 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ZCX islptng/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148559&oldid=148534 5* 03ZCX islptng 5* (+0) 10/* Arithmetic & Logical */
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> 1734676858 879370 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Orange2 5*  10New user account
> 1734677585 141771 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148560&oldid=148529 5* 03Orange2 5* (+103) 10/* Introductions */
> 1734677609 386870 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ABC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148561&oldid=120415 5* 03Orange2 5* (+691) 10Added python implementation. I'm the original author of the language.
< 1734677829 419310 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :How should I implement the percussions in Super ZZ Zero?
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< 1734678168 42530 :orange2!~orange2@2601:190:67f:a6f0:4461:3aec:26c2:41e PRIVMSG #esolangs :wassup
< 1734678253 963171 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Writing a djinn.
< 1734678266 357343 :orange2!~orange2@2601:190:67f:a6f0:4461:3aec:26c2:41e PRIVMSG #esolangs :what's that mean?
< 1734678324 504213 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :djinn is a classic Haskell tool that takes a type signature and tries to write a (Haskell) expression with that signature.
< 1734678347 522629 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've written one before for Cammy. I'm writing another to address some deficiencies. BRB stove.
< 1734678455 677004 :orange2!~orange2@2601:190:67f:a6f0:4461:3aec:26c2:41e PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, interesting.
< 1734678562 28758 :orange2!~orange2@2601:190:67f:a6f0:4461:3aec:26c2:41e PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm here because I used to do esolang stuff about 15 years ago, starting 2008. looking through all the articles was pretty formative for me for programming, when I was 14.
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< 1734678569 581156 :orange2!~orange2@2601:190:67f:a6f0:4461:3aec:26c2:41e PRIVMSG #esolangs :was just wondering what the irc chat looked like today
< 1734678615 208078 :orange2!~orange2@2601:190:67f:a6f0:4461:3aec:26c2:41e PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is my old user page: https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Orange
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< 1734678672 280009 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm currently on a very slow quest to improve the most historically important articles. Honestly there's not that much to do, which is nice.
< 1734678805 882818 :orange2!~orange2@2601:190:67f:a6f0:4461:3aec:26c2:41e PRIVMSG #esolangs :what's your username on the wiki?
< 1734678932 341807 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Corbin
< 1734679097 975634 :orange2!~orange2@2601:190:67f:a6f0:4461:3aec:26c2:41e PRIVMSG #esolangs :interesting!
< 1734679127 167643 :orange2!~orange2@2601:190:67f:a6f0:4461:3aec:26c2:41e PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just skimmed the timeline one. it's very good.
< 1734679378 110848 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Thanks. I can't take credit for that one; I'm just making small improvements to an existing structure.
< 1734679598 972269 :orange2!~orange2@2601:190:67f:a6f0:4461:3aec:26c2:41e PRIVMSG #esolangs :have you made any esolangs?
< 1734679681 369448 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah. I take half credit for Monte and full credit for Cammy.
< 1734680308 653935 :orange2!~orange2@2601:190:67f:a6f0:4461:3aec:26c2:41e PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, nice
< 1734680460 18417 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess I should try to not be secretive. I'm working on reproducing this paper: https://www.cs.hmc.edu/~oneill/papers/Combinators-ASPGP.pdf
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> 1734692839 180368 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ting Vit14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148565&oldid=142088 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+43) 10
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> 1734698078 369404 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BFInfinity14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148566&oldid=148532 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+112) 10
> 1734702975 98815 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UserEdited14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148567&oldid=143192 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+588) 10
> 1734704077 562378 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Directions14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148568 5* 03ZCX islptng 5* (+682) 10Created page with "Directions is a deque-based 2D esolang.  The PC moves in various directions on tiles(#). If it turns, nothing happens.  If it didn't, an instruction will be executed.   The tile which the PC comes from will be ignored.   Priority:  5 4 3 4 5  4 2 1 2 
> 1734704393 779157 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Pyline14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148569&oldid=148521 5* 03YufangTSTSU 5* (+1439) 10
> 1734704530 174701 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Pyline14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148570&oldid=148569 5* 03YufangTSTSU 5* (-19) 10wait i can remove the flush
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> 1734716727 404621 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:SWCE Charecter s.png10]]": logo for jive
> 1734716737 195810 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02File:SWCE Charecter s.png10]] to [[File:Jive.png]]
> 1734717496 278373 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Jive14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148582&oldid=148578 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+41) 10
> 1734717506 574312 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Jive14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148583&oldid=148582 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10
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> 1734719731 959722 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148584&oldid=148329 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+110) 10add missing languages
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> 1734737217 877504 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Rdococ 5*  10moved [[02Tinytalk10]] to [[Closuretalk]]: Changing the name of this language for clarity reasons
> 1734737258 211758 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Closuretalk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148590&oldid=148588 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+31) 10rename lang
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> 1734738548 339533 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Closuretalk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148592&oldid=148591 5* 03Rdococ 5* (-4) 10/* Conclusion */
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> 1734738731 813191 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Closuretalk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148594&oldid=148593 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+169) 10/* Conclusion */ note further simplifications
> 1734738766 956883 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Rdococ14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148595&oldid=130158 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+3) 10
> 1734738850 540105 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Swapfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148596&oldid=102766 5* 03Rdococ 5* (-21) 10
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> 1734740545 774935 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ichi14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148597&oldid=134402 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (-75) 10Ichi doesn't require the ability to grab new inputs. Since Ichi cannot grab more than two inputs at a time, an interpreter can use one long sequence at the beginning of a program and read two inputs at a time.
> 1734741320 170695 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Ichi14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148598&oldid=148597 5* 03TheCanon2 5* (+22) 10improved readability
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< 1734749249 690914 :amby!~ambylastn@ward-15-b2-v4wan-167229-cust809.vm18.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement
< 1734751703 792346 :Hooloovoo!~Hooloovoo@hax0rbana.org QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb2+deb11u1 - https://znc.in
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> 1734757565 225737 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:UrnEn/Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148599&oldid=148289 5* 03UrnEn 5* (+73) 10
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> 1734765936 379898 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:UrnEn/Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148601&oldid=148600 5* 03UrnEn 5* (-101) 10/* Quine */
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> 1734767169 113281 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Onechar14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148604 5* 03Cycwin 5* (+1153) 10Created page with "I will edit it after some time and there's the interpreter below... 
code=5 values=[code] k=2 q=[[0,1]] while code//k>1:     values.append(code//k)     code=code//k     k+=1 if k==2 else 2 pointer=0 while pointer 1734768432 193567 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Onechar14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148605&oldid=148604 5* 03Cycwin 5* (+936) 10
> 1734769888 250947 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:YufangTSTSU14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148606 5* 03YufangTSTSU 5* (+1394) 10Created page with "Finally, this page isn't empty anymore!   == Something I made == === [[brainfuck]] interpreter in [[Befunge]] ===  "v v   < Row 0-3 & 5,5 stores data   >0>1+\| Width is changeable    vp550< (if greater than 62)           (requires warp)    >   >1-:::::0\0p0
> 1734773259 291762 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Short-print14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=148607 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+253) 10Created page with "'''[]-print''' is self explanatory. You just print an empty list. However, you're required to make the shortest code to print an empty list and also creating the variable with the empty list  A pesudocode if you didn't understand:  print m(emptylist [])"
> 1734773280 178725 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02Short-print10]] to [[Empty list-print]]
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> 1734773396 637841 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07UserEdited14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148611&oldid=148575 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+254) 10
> 1734773425 310887 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Empty list-print14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148612&oldid=148610 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-1) 10
> 1734773509 59626 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:ZCX islptng/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148613&oldid=148559 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+0) 10Then "Cardinal" and "Continue" are repeated, so I changed second  as .
> 1734773622 220189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148614&oldid=148447 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+70) 10/* Programm forms */
> 1734773859 280191 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Empty list-print14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=148615&oldid=148612 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+34) 10/* Python */
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