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01:15:15 <b_jonas> http://sigbovik.org/2025/ posted
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02:18:15 <zzo38> A variant of DER can be "Multi-DER", which means any number of DER files concatenated together. Converting Multi-DER to BER is easy by adding a constant prefix and suffix; converting Multi-DER to DER is easy by adding a prefix (no suffix) with the length of the data (in bytes). In neither case is it necessary to parse or modify the existing data at all.
02:19:01 <zzo38> Converting the JSONL, NDJSON, record-separator-delimited JSON, concatenated JSON, etc into ordinary JSON is a bit more complicated (especially concatenated JSON) because it will be necessary to add the commas.
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03:34:12 <esolangs> [[SCOOP]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=154632&oldid=153613 * Anthonykozar * (-138) /* Programs */ Adding link to linked list example.
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05:53:41 <esolangs> [[BF instruction minimalization]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=154633&oldid=145938 * Xyzzy * (+609)
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07:33:33 <strerror> Exploit with an esolang: https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2021/12/a-deep-dive-into-nso-zero-click.html
07:34:06 <strerror> “JBIG2 doesn't have scripting capabilities, but when combined with a vulnerability, it does have the ability to emulate circuits of arbitrary logic gates operating on arbitrary memory. So why not just use that to build your own computer architecture and script that!? That's exactly what this exploit does.”
07:48:24 <esolangs> [[User:I am islptng/List of the users that is also in conwaylife.com]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=154634&oldid=154585 * I am islptng * (+2)
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10:31:18 <b_jonas> strerror: yep, that's a naturally occurring esolang
11:22:26 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=154635&oldid=154593 * JHSHernandez-ZBH * (+221)
11:22:47 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=154636&oldid=154635 * JHSHernandez-ZBH * (+11) /* befunge */
11:24:18 <esolangs> [[User:JHSHernandez-ZBH]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=154637 * JHSHernandez-ZBH * (+214) Created page with "<code><pre> ];;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;] ]@ ; ;THIS IS BIBILTU-14; ; ; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;'. ;[ [;T+ ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;,4 [B', ',S',I', ',S',I',H']* [,'I,'B,'I,'L,'T,'U,'-,1a[ </pre></code>"
11:38:50 <esolangs> [[UserEdited]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=154638&oldid=154553 * PrySigneToFry * (+660)
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12:51:06 <esolangs> [[User:Tpaefawzen]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=154642 * Tpaefawzen * (+164) Profile
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15:38:49 <esolangs> [[Reduced Lambda Calculus]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=154643 * Yetyetty1234567890 * (+313) Created page with "--- REDUCED LAMBDA CALCULUS --- 0 1 ( 0. ( _ _ ) ) _ ( 1. ( _ _ ) ) _ 0 1 ( 0. _ ) _ ( 1. _ ) _ # just let it operate on both v ( _ ) _ # you only need 1 variable bc of deterministic { ( _ ) _ == ( v. _ ) _ } thats it if you think rea
15:38:49 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBD::SQLite::db do failed: database or disk is full at ./plugins/karma_modify.pm line 68.
15:39:06 <esolangs> perlbot: The error "DBD::SQLite::db do failed: database or disk is full" means your SQLite database is overflowing. Here's a quick fix: 1. **Check Disk Space:** Ensure you have enough free disk space. 2. **Delete Unnecessary Data:** Remove old or unused data from your database. 3. **Optimize Database:** Consider using indexes or other database optimization...
15:39:06 <esolangs> techniques. 4. **Increase Database Size:** If you need more space, consider increasing the size of your database file. If the issue persists, provide more context about your database setup and the code around line 68.
15:39:06 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:39:27 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:39:27 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:39:27 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:39:49 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:39:49 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:39:49 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:40:10 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:40:10 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:40:10 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:40:31 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:40:31 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:40:32 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:40:53 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:40:53 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:40:53 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:41:14 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:41:14 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:41:14 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:41:36 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:41:36 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:41:36 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:41:57 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:41:57 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:41:57 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:42:19 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:42:19 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:42:19 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:42:40 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:42:40 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:42:40 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:43:01 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:43:01 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:43:02 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:43:23 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:43:23 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:43:23 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:43:44 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:43:44 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:43:45 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:44:06 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:44:06 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:44:06 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:44:27 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:44:27 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:44:28 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
15:44:49 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:44:49 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:44:49 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
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15:45:10 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:45:10 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:45:10 <perlbot> esolangs: Error: DBI connect('dbname=perlbot;host=192.168.32.1','perlbot',...) failed: connection to server at "192.168.32.1", port 5432 failed: Connection refused Is the server running on that host and accepting TCP/IP connections? at ./plugins/factoids.pm line 84.
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15:45:32 <esolangs> perlbot: The error message indicates that your Perl bot is unable to connect to the PostgreSQL database server at the specified address and port. Here's a quick troubleshooting checklist: 1. **Verify PostgreSQL Server:** Ensure the PostgreSQL server is running on the host `192.168.32.1`. 2. **Check Port:** Confirm that port 5432 is open and accessible. 3....
15:45:32 <esolangs> **Database Credentials:** Double-check that the database credentials (`dbname`, `host`, `user`, `password`) are correct. 4. **Firewall:** Check if your firewall is blocking the connection. If the server is running and the port is open, the issue might be with the database credentials or the connection string.
15:45:52 <fizzie> A little impolite, but the fastest thing I could think of, since I think all the easy ways to stop esolangs from replying would cause it to produce an error message.
15:47:01 <fizzie> (I wonder if this is the first recorded *accidental* botloop on the channel.)
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15:48:42 <fizzie> I'd unquiet it now but I'm worried the next wiki-recent-changes update would start it again (that seems to have been the original trigger) so I'll leave it like this until I have some free time to put in something more fine-tuned.
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15:51:33 <wib_jonas> fizzie: the problem is that the first line says "database or disk is full"
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15:53:16 <wib_jonas> simcop2387: ^ you may want to check that out
15:53:44 <wib_jonas> also I'm sorry, I asked to bring perlbot here so that's partly my fault
15:55:29 <wib_jonas> fizzie: it doesn't look to me like a wiki change was the trigger, but it could be
15:56:09 <wib_jonas> I should test it outside the channel
15:57:17 <fizzie> From the perspective of my client, there was a note about the creation of the page "Reduced Lambda Calculus" at 15:38:49, and the first disk-full response from perlbot on the same second, that's all I can say.
15:57:22 <wib_jonas> fizzie: I think there are two problems here,
15:58:02 <wib_jonas> one is that perlbot has some kind of database error and responds to any ordinary query with that, so I recommend you to keep perlbot quieted in this channel for now
15:58:19 <fizzie> That one is also different in that it's from karma_modify.pm, rather than factoids.pm like the others.
15:58:42 <wib_jonas> but the other problem is that perlbot usually responds when addressed, and so does esolangs, and something made perlbot reply to esolangs which resulted in a botloop, and I don't understand what started it\
15:58:48 <fizzie> So I expect it might've been due to the `--` in the wiki change to begin with.
16:00:02 <wib_jonas> so when there's no database error, would esolangs triggering perlbot's karma thing result in a loop?
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16:01:33 <fizzie> Botloops are very on-brand here, so I think it was rather nice to see one again.
16:02:14 <fizzie> Also the inference speed of the LLM made this one run kinda slowly.
16:03:46 <wib_jonas> yeah, but a faster bot like jconn could print a double-hyphen just as much. I know jconn is dead for good, and I'm glad, but there could be other bots like that
16:05:05 <wib_jonas> fizzie: shouldn't esolang add some prefix to its lines to avoid triggering bots though, like a \x0F ?
16:06:59 <wib_jonas> I mean jevalbot should too, and I should remember this the next time I write a bot that can emit PRIVMSG
16:07:52 <fizzie> It probably should, and I don't even have the "it's written in Befunge, that's too hard" excuse this case.
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18:22:48 <korvo> esolangs: What is Kolmogorov complexity? Explain for a layperson.
18:24:03 <esolangs> korvo: Imagine you have a piece of text. Kolmogorov complexity is a way to measure how much information is needed to describe that text. It's like asking, "How many steps would it take to write down this text?" The smaller the number of steps, the lower the complexity. Think of it like this: a simple text like "Hello" has low complexity, while a complex...
18:24:03 <esolangs> text like a novel has high complexity.
18:24:38 <korvo> esolangs: What is Kolmogorov complexity? Explain for a theoretical computer scientist.
18:25:53 <esolangs> korvo: Kolmogorov complexity measures the minimal amount of information needed to describe a given object. It's essentially the length of the shortest program that can generate that object. A high Kolmogorov complexity implies a complex object, while a low complexity suggests a simple, easily describable object. For a theoretical computer scientist, it's...
18:25:53 <esolangs> a fundamental concept in algorithmic information theory, used to analyze the inherent complexity of data and algorithms.
18:35:41 <korvo> esolangs: What is Kolmogorov complexity? Explain for a software developer.
18:36:58 <esolangs> korvo: Kolmogorov complexity is a measure of how much information is needed to describe a piece of data. Imagine you have a program that can describe a piece of data. The complexity of that data is how much information you need to write the program to describe it. For example, a simple string like "abababababababababababababababababababab" has low...
18:36:58 <esolangs> complexity because it's easy to describe with a short program. A complex data structure like a tree would have higher complexity.
18:37:22 <korvo> esolangs: What is Kolmogorov complexity? Explain for a programming-language designer/theorist/implementor.
18:38:35 <korvo> I wonder if "explain" is causing RAG to return less useful context, or causing the model to de-emphasize the context.
18:38:40 <esolangs> korvo: Kolmogorov complexity measures the minimal amount of information needed to describe a given object. For a programming language designer, it's a crucial concept for understanding the inherent "complexity" of a program's structure. A low Kolmogorov complexity suggests a program is concise and easily describable, while a high complexity indicates a...
18:38:40 <esolangs> program is intricate and difficult to represent. This can inform design choices, like optimizing for efficient code generation or understanding the inherent limitations of a language.
18:38:56 <korvo> esolangs: What is Kolmogorov complexity?
18:40:11 <esolangs> korvo: Kolmogorov complexity measures the minimum number of bits needed to describe a given object. It's a way to quantify how "computable" an object is. A simple example: the string "abababababababababababababababababababab" has low complexity because it can be generated by a simple loop. The more complex the object, the more bits are needed to describe...
18:41:12 <korvo> Huh, RAG must just not be returning much. I'm done for now; thanks for humoring me.
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20:07:20 <zzo38> I have a function ASN1_Encoder*asn1_create_encoder(FILE*) but I want to add another function that also creates a ASN1_Encoder object but with different arguments, which are the ASN1_Value structure to write into, and the class, type, and flags (whether or not to automatically sort the data). What should this function be called?
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20:15:18 <ais523> zzo38: the existing name makes the new function hard to name; names like asn1_encode_to_file and asn1_encode_to_value would be more symmetrical
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21:57:21 <zzo38> ais523: However, the function names starting with "asn1_encode_" are used for operating with an existing ASN1_Encoder object to encode specific values into the file.
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22:00:31 <ais523> zzo38: ah, "asn1_start_encoding_…" then
22:01:02 <zzo38> OK, that seems like good, then.
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