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> 1743380627 58290 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:NOB14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=154768 5* 03Anthonykozar 5* (+924) 10Some suggestions for clarification.
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< 1743384601 393617 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also had some ideas relating to a graphics processor of a computer, that it could have memory areas that cannot access each other (for security), and windows that have memory areas assigned to them (some of which will be read-only), and will also contain programs for altering registers per scanline and for rendering pixels (which may work in parallel, or during the previous scanline, or both).
< 1743384695 956210 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :A window may have position, size, and depth, and may be mapped in a specific order and in specific other windows. And then, there may also be sprites, which can also belong to windows and will have a position, size, depth, and order.
< 1743384725 299405 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(This is not for 3D graphics, but it is for 2D graphics)
< 1743386930 418094 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what's a good name for a special conceptual value that can be read and stored, but returns itself if used as an operand of an arithmetic operation, and is UB to branch on?
< 1743386938 988852 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sort-of like how uninitialised memory works in Valgrind
< 1743387088 157515 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(bonus points if it doesn't return itself in cases where the value doesn't otherwise matter, e.g. it becomes 0 if you multiply it by 0)
< 1743387136 130051 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in a way it's very similar to NaN, I guess
< 1743388111 526646 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-52-143.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, it seems to be like NaN but not quite.
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< 1743409977 306410 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: infinity? no, that isn't UB to branch on.
< 1743410021 686622 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :possibly "indefinite representation" or something
< 1743410099 17054 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or how about poisoned (rotten, moldy, tainted) value?
< 1743410119 815239 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you have to treat anything it touches as also poisonous
< 1743410139 790281 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :because one drop of poison mixed with a barrel of wine still counts as poison
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< 1743434057 496635 :korvo!~korvo@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Another possibility is "tainting", which is what PyPy called it. They've removed the feature now, but it used to be possible to "taint" a value, and accesses to a tainted value would either throw an exception or return more taint. Def 5 for verb form: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/taint
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< 1743458545 928266 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :korvo: Perl has tainted values too, but they work a bit differently – you can branch on them but not pass them to I/O builtins
< 1743458707 45540 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs : possibly "indefinite representation" or something ← I think names of that form are often used for a specific NaN payload (IIRC the one where the two most significant bits are 1 and everything else is 0)
< 1743458719 91955 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :as opposed to canonical NaN, which has one 1 bit at the top
< 1743458769 682381 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes, "indefinite" is not appropriate here, I figured out a bit better ones after that
< 1743458793 141139 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm – the value in question is basically the "don't care" value from electronic engineering, usually called X
< 1743458807 496203 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :VHDL has it as an actual constant in the language
< 1743458817 304860 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and uses it as the NaN equivalent for booleans)
< 1743458832 814709 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, they aren't technically booleans but their main states are true and false, like booleans have
< 1743458876 167786 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was thinking of hardware bit indefinite, where the voltage might not be read consistently as a zero or one
< 1743458876 195922 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so branching on it might not consistently produce one or the other branch but could give a mixture
< 1743458926 450011 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think in VHDL that can be represented by either X or W, depending on what happens if you connect a strong voltage to it
< 1743458945 388841 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i.e. W is being weakly pulled both up and down, whereas something that's being strongly pulled both up and down is an X
< 1743458955 539836 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and something that's just purely floating is Z)
< 1743459057 597137 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wait, I think "don't care" might be - rather than X
< 1743459062 234406 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's so long since I did this
< 1743459075 300262 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's hard to remember all the various behaviours of 9-valued booleans
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