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01:42:44 <korvo> Thinking out loud about recent changes to [[Iota]]. It's not quite right to claim that two combinator bases are equivalent; rather, we want to say that they are adjoint, and that the adjunction induces some sort of extensional equivalence.
01:43:58 <korvo> For it otherwise is immediately TC -- by some nasty flavor of Rice, I guess -- whether two particular combinator expressions in different bases are equivalent, because any sort of extraction we perform on them is technically a "simulation" in the fancy machine sense.
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01:51:48 <korvo> In general I suppose I'm imagining a sort of pattern across the wiki where a combinator basis' TC proof can start and end by showing that the basis can be freely (faithfully) bracketed to SKI.
02:13:15 <korvo> Another pattern I'm thinking about is syntax-description languages. Is there appetite for languages like META II, https://www.bayfronttechnologies.com/mc_tutorial.html ?
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04:19:48 <ais523> korvo: I think you can talk in terms of simple translations between combinator bases, i.e. each combinator in either can be replaced with an expression formed out of combinators from the other, giving you a bisimulation
04:20:31 <ais523> it's reasonable to consider that as being a way to prove an equivalence, even though it's undecidable to determine equivalence in the general case
04:21:02 <ais523> we do the same sort of thing with languages all the time – if two languages can each be compiled to the other, we consider that as a proof that they have the same computational class
04:25:55 <korvo> ais523: Yeah. I just think that it *must* be something like bisimulation, because a universal basis isn't going to offer some sort of universal decomposition.
04:28:55 <esolangs> [[Talk:Burn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=155513&oldid=155490 * Ais523 * (+873) /* Thoughts */ some of my own thoughts
04:31:17 <ais523> perhaps a good term would be "operational equivalence" – we have an easily provable equivalence in the operational semantics, but aren't sure how to define equality in the denotational semantics
04:36:25 <ais523> my PhD was heavily based on game semantics, which is a form of semantics that's both somewhat operational and somewhat denotational – it defines a lambda calculus term (with potential free variables) in terms of its possible patterns of calls and returns – it's very reminiscent of a finite state machine, but without the restriction to finitely many states (although it often approximates things as having finitely many states)
04:37:42 <ais523> although, I basically only studied game semantics for simply typed lambda calculus + fix, which is much easier to handle than an untyped lambda calculus would be
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16:34:13 <korvo> My last-night notes include the very funny phrase "This article is part of a series on Turing-completeness" but I'm not sure whether that specific phrase is a good idea.
16:35:47 <int-e> `? procrastination
16:35:50 <HackEso> The Procrastination is destined to rule the world... right after watching this final funny cat clip on youtube.
16:43:37 <korvo> Well, what I actually think I was imagining is an infobox on *proof techniques* for Turing-completeness. People are always handwaving proofs by reduction; we could have a standardized handwave template.
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17:10:15 <esolangs> [[Arrowey]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=155563&oldid=155531 * Lampe2020 * (-56) This is, on fact, no longer a work-in-progress. And it's not implemented either.
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20:30:10 <zzo38> The man page for dbopen mentions <db.h> but there does not seem to be any such file on my computer. Why is the man page installed, then?
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